View Full Version : Know their role, and shut your mouth......
Doppler
2003-12-26, 11:44 AM
I'm going to remark on a growing trend i've observed thus far. When i say growing trend I mean that i've seen a couple of guys make comments on this in the sanctuary. Well since thanks to Instant action and the new HART timer i spend a grand total of two minuetes in the snac on average i tend to wonder if more people are commenting on this, so Ill straighten anyone whos not up on this out.
Art Department
Does 3D modeling, designs character models, christmas trees, promotional materials, and yes stupid christmas hats and trees. These are the artisticly minded type, maybe its a left/right brain thing, but artists seem to make shitty programers, and vica versa.
Programmers
Code cutters. They fix bugs, code new stuff, chase bugs etc. They most likely dont even doodle, if they do it most likely looks like something Obnoxious Frog churns out (no offense meant and hopefully none taken). They had nothing to do with the christmas trees.
THE BOTTOM LINE
The christmas trees and stupid hats in no way shape or form affected the fixing of bugs, they might not even have been consulted. It did not slowdown the production of Capitals/Capitols, it did not affect the physics engine. It did not introduce a server crash, it was a graphics thing. Dont blow it out of proportion and scream about how they shouldnt be doing stupid shit and be tracking down xxxxxxx random bug. Get a grip.
This has been a test, only a test, if this were a true Doppler emergency post your hair whould have caught on fire, this was only a test.
THE BOTTOM LINE
The christmas trees and stupid hats in no way shape or form affected the fixing of bugs, they might not even have been consulted. It did not slowdown the production of Capitals/Capitols, it did not affect the physics engine. It did not introduce a server crash, it was a graphics thing. Dont blow it out of proportion and scream about how they shouldnt be doing stupid shit and be tracking down xxxxxxx random bug. Get a grip.
This has been a test, only a test, if this were a true Doppler emergency post your hair whould have caught on fire, this was only a test.
:banplz:
They are not stupid they rock!
TheRagingGerbil
2003-12-26, 12:49 PM
Doppler's right...I got tired of trying to explain this on the OF.
Doppler's right...I got tired of trying to explain this on the OF.
I'm not surprised people there don't want to listen becuase they think that they are right that is why I don't post in there.
Liquidtide
2003-12-26, 01:00 PM
Doppler = Bah Humbug
Does everything have to better the game? I don't believe the hats, lights, and gift boxes caused the game to take a step back. They (the devs) deserve a Christmas break as well.
TheN00b
2003-12-26, 01:03 PM
Everyone who is either complaining about the hats or complaining about the complainers has too much time on their hands. Please just play the game, chuckle or frown at the minor holiday addons, and cap some bases. Problem solved (I hope...).
Doppler
2003-12-26, 01:12 PM
I personally like my hat I was just trying to correct this because a lot of stuff can be tracked back to people not understanding who does what on a game team.
Doppler
2003-12-26, 01:59 PM
Everyone who is either complaining about the hats or complaining about the complainers has too much time on their hands. Please just play the game, chuckle or frown at the minor holiday addons, and cap some bases. Problem solved (I hope...).
So those who complain about the guys complaining about the complainers are better? Wow look that pot is black!
I personally like my hat
You still called them stupid!
Doppler
2003-12-26, 02:11 PM
That was intended as a non-direct quote, nothing more.
noxious
2003-12-26, 02:18 PM
I love this sort of thing. I was happy to log in after a long break and see the christmas lights, hats and presents.
TheN00b
2003-12-26, 02:23 PM
@ Dop: I don't want to complain, I just want to have the topics that are on the top of the forum be about important or interesting things, rather than whining. And no, you're not whining, but other people have been doing so.
Doppler
2003-12-26, 02:26 PM
Noob, nothing is more subjective then importance when your talking about a online game forum. If you really feel the need to impose your own editorialism on the boards I highly suggest talking to Hamma about moding, I'd be willing to bet alcohal money he'll turn you down flat, but thats abotu the only way your going to see it happen.
Edit:Typos
TheN00b
2003-12-26, 02:29 PM
Actually, I have utterly no interest in being a mod: a( Hamma would turn me down, and b( It would commit too much of my time to these boards. But isn't the whole point of forums expressing your opinions?
EDIT: You do have a point, however, about editorializing.
Acaila
2003-12-27, 12:57 PM
The PS community = highly concentrated stupidity, for the most part. I have never seen a group of idiots who know so much and are yet so completely ignorant at the same time.
TheN00b
2003-12-27, 01:04 PM
Before you start dissing a large group, why don't you try contributing more, so we can listen to your brilliant ideas and have a chance to form an opinion of you. Hmm...?
Rayder
2003-12-27, 01:17 PM
The PS community = highly concentrated stupidity, for the most part. I have never seen a group of idiots who know so much and are yet so completely ignorant at the same time.
That;s so sweet :love:, and yet I want to strangle you at the same time :mad:!
TheN00b
2003-12-27, 01:18 PM
Lol
Rayder
2003-12-27, 01:18 PM
go go double posting
Acaila
2003-12-27, 01:49 PM
It is clear from your condescending tone that you have already formed an opinion of me. Congratulations, you sank to my level. I apologise for not meeting the minimum brilliant contribution limit and will restrain myself from perpetrating any further systematic destruction of aforesaid brilliance. If you can bare to leave the moral high ground for a second and wallow with the peasantry, I will explain what I meant for I fear you took it out of context.
Okay. Their stupidity has nothing to do with their contribution. As a matter of fact, alot of people come up with good ideas and have very valid points to make in arguments. Yet in the context of this thread, what I said was accurate. When a large number of people accuse the SOE devs of not focusing on pressing issues because they are designing christmas hats, I call stupidity. They have no idea how a company is structured, they have little idea about the IT industry in large scale software production companies, yet they are still an expert on it. I have witnessed the same thing as the original poster.
These are the same people who know how a graphics engine works and throw around terms like "occlusion detecion", "intellisampling" and "blitting" when telling us why PS has bad FPS even on the lowest possible graphics settings in massive battles.
A stupid person is someone who acts as an authority about something which they know fuck all about.
Rayder
2003-12-27, 02:55 PM
A man of many words this Acaila is. I like him. Good points too.
TheN00b
2003-12-27, 04:01 PM
First, I was not using a condescending tone. I was simply reacting to you acalling this community a bunch of idiots. Silly me. What was I thinking? Secondly, however, you do make good points about attempting to be an uninformed authority. This is a trait many, if not most, human beings share (Oops, just did it ;) ). I will respect you, as long as you respect me. If you do not want to piss me off, then do not insult me. Simple as that :) .
Strak
2003-12-27, 04:32 PM
First, I was not using a condescending tone. I was simply reacting to you acalling this community a bunch of idiots. Silly me. What was I thinking? Secondly, however, you do make good points about attempting to be an uninformed authority. This is a trait many, if not most, human beings share (Oops, just did it ;) ). I will respect you, as long as you respect me. If you do not want to piss me off, then do not insult me. Simple as that :) .
Conviently, a large portion of the community are idiots. Nothing pisses me off more than a thread such as my example below (and it's something I am making up but we have seen time and time again.)
**--Begin
hey all hw come the devs cant ralaese anything ontime? Ptch A is stil delyed. man thos devs sore do sux.
End--**
Thats right, people bitching about the game, about the devs and timeframe. The people bitching couldn't write code to save their lives. They can't even write english properly.
People on these forums and across the Internet are to lazy to check their facts, to lazy to read over their posts and to lazy to learn how to spell.
Ok thats my two cents.
TheN00b
2003-12-27, 09:25 PM
Even though this is an unfair generalization, it would still be fairly accurate to say that there are two primary groups of PS players: The more informed, polite, and skilled players, and the 1337 hax0r n00b5. Unfortunately for the overall health of the community, the majority of all players are 1337 hax0r n00b5. This leads to a superfluity in n00bish, uninformed, and generally un-grammatical posts.
Rayder
2003-12-27, 09:45 PM
and generally un-grammatical posts.
Amen
xmodum
2003-12-27, 10:21 PM
It is clear from your condescending tone that you have already formed an opinion of me. Congratulations, you sank to my level. I apologise for not meeting the minimum brilliant contribution limit and will restrain myself from perpetrating any further systematic destruction of aforesaid brilliance. If you can bare to leave the moral high ground for a second and wallow with the peasantry, I will explain what I meant for I fear you took it out of context.
Okay. Their stupidity has nothing to do with their contribution. As a matter of fact, alot of people come up with good ideas and have very valid points to make in arguments. Yet in the context of this thread, what I said was accurate. When a large number of people accuse the SOE devs of not focusing on pressing issues because they are designing christmas hats, I call stupidity. They have no idea how a company is structured, they have little idea about the IT industry in large scale software production companies, yet they are still an expert on it. I have witnessed the same thing as the original poster.
These are the same people who know how a graphics engine works and throw around terms like "occlusion detecion", "intellisampling" and "blitting" when telling us why PS has bad FPS even on the lowest possible graphics settings in massive battles.
A stupid person is someone who acts as an authority about something which they know fuck all about.
man, its guys like this that need to talk like a human , it sounds like he's tryin to sleep with his college professor tryin to impress him :doh:
Edit: i will also respect u .........and all that crap :groovy: J/J
FlakMan
2003-12-27, 10:28 PM
This has been a test, only a test, if this were a true Doppler emergency post your hair whould have caught on fire, this was only a test.
But my hair did catch fire :doh:
Acaila
2003-12-29, 10:25 AM
I wasn't attacking this (as in PSU) community, I was attacking the whole entire PS community and mainly in reference to the OF.
I love and respect you all. :love:
man, its guys like this that need to talk like a human , it sounds like he's tryin to sleep with his college professor tryin to impress him
I'll tone it down a bit for you next time princess. However, if talking like a "human" bares any resemblance to your post, I would rather headbutt my monitor and slit my throat with the shards. Have a nice day!
TheN00b
2003-12-29, 01:29 PM
Ya modum, writing is writing, not fornicating. 'Nuff said.
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