cr5 ettiquette

[Gigabein]

Somebody who knows what they're doing should write a guide on global commanding ettiquette. Ideally global spam shouldn't even need to be used since messages can be relayed down through various command ranks to assign missions to squads. The CR5(s) leading a continent assault should make generic strategic plans, and pass specific assignments down to the Outfit leaders to execute. Voila! No more globals.

Is it really appropriate to global-spam a continent asking for someone to stop one guy back-hacking a home continent? Or informing everyone that Joe and his friend Mike are doing an ANT run for a base that's getting low? I'm in the Air Force and General John P. Jumper has never conference-called the entire Air Expeditionary Force in Iraq to request someone to go mid-air refuel a couple F-15s.

So in conclusion: somebody who knows what they're doing should write a guide.

[martyr]

those who know what they're doing know better than to try to impress the "good" leading on the masses. they turn to their own outfits instead.

[edit]
more specifically, the good ones work together, get along, communicate between each other, their platoon, and their outfits, and they don't get in fights over global.

they agree on their strategic movements and move as one, deploying avaliable forces and only occasionally globalling for reinforcements.

as emerald vanu, these old/quiet "good" cr5s come to mind: rahl, danco, rev, millerbug, elana, deathkiss

[infinite loop]

Unfortunately, with the current lack of a real communication system between all commanders/squad leaders, globals are the only appropriate method of getting the message out. Now I will agree that there is FAR too much spam on globals, and that shit is just annoying. But the ones that are productive, such as organizing an armor battalion, max crash unit, or general troop movement direction, etc., are still very important. For the most part, the NC cr5s do most coordinating and communicate through command chat and inter-outfit, and only global when necessary (save a few spamming asshats). We generally take care of ant runs, repairing gens, etc., w/o doing a global for help. Hopefully a new command communication structure will go into place one day that will make coordination more efficient and cohesive, regardless of cr level. But right now, there's no way around globals.

[Kikinchikin]

I never tell anyone to do anything. I ask if anyone would like to and if they are please send me a tell.

You can never have too many pleases ;)

Don't ask people to recall off of anywhere, leave that to the other CR 5's, as they will be the ones getting piss tells. :lol:

Lead through example. Instead of saying "Resecure Kusag hack now!" fly over there and do it yourself if you can. Granted I don't always do this, since I am busy (like many others), but it does help.

Try to let the other troops know that you are listening and that you can relate to them. I try to respond to each tell that I get, as I don't like being left out of the inner loop and I'm sure no one else does.

edit: Also, I agree that /telling of outfit leaders is far more effective than contalls or globals, considering an organized outfit with 20 people on is usually more effective than 35 zerglings.

Last but not least, just be cool. Don't go on spamming in all caps OMGWTF CERYSEHN IS BEING SLAUGHTEREDD SEND HELPP NOW!!!!111ONE

[Hamma]

What you are asking is nearly impossible to do with the current system, but some of the in concepts we see intend to change that. Im the same - I ask for people to do things. I dont just start spamming OMFG WE NEED THIS THAT AND THE OTHER THING OR WE DIE?!!@#!@#

[Firefly]

Here's the solution, and I was thinking about this last night.

The counter to /SITREP, which is a sending of information up the flow of information, is /FRAGO (aka Fragmentary Order), which sends orders and intel down the flow of information.

Spork would alleviate a lot of stress and problems with that simple fix.

[infinite loop]

Firefly - this is a great point, as was brought up in the recent in concept for commanders list. They are considering just adding a two-way command chat of some kind. That would be a great start, and a huge improvement to communication imo. I hope they do it soon.

[TheN00b]

To all you CR5's out there, I'm curious: If any, how many response tells do you get from anooyning assholes/helpful tippers after every global? Just wondering.

[infinite loop]

I've only been cr5 a little over a week, so take my answer as a small sample size. I don't global unless I feel it is going to be usefull or necessary, so I haven't gotten any hate tells yet (crosses fingers). But I've gotten at least a few helpful tips, and volunteers. So far it's been a good experience.

[Indecisive]

Do not say:

OMFG GET OFF TEH CONTIENENT AND COME SAVE OUR BACKYAREDD!!1111111



If people are on a contient, they are more then likely on there because they WANT to, and are having FUN. Plzshoveyourtrooprequestupyourasskthx.

[Kikinchikin]

I'm very pleased with my feedback. Not a single hate tell. I've gotten a ton of tells with intel and information. I guess everyone has a CR 5 they tell info to. :)

[noxious]

To all you CR5's out there, I'm curious: If any, how many response tells do you get from anooyning assholes/helpful tippers after every global? Just wondering.


I've had it for a few months now and I've never recieved a hate tell. I am an advocate of removing globals all togeather however. I must admit I have sent three though.

In additon I don't use many continent broadcasts either. I use them to relay AMS positions or request AMS support to a specific location, otherwise the zerg knows well enough what to do. I have my contacts for getting generators killed and ant runs done, there's no reason to contall these things. I do use contall's for one other thing. I use them to affirm the faction. I think a lot of times we, as CR5s, command people to do things and that is that with that. If they don't get done, we get fed up, and if they do get done we take all the credit for the success. I like to send a contall after a long, hard fight thanking the faction for its efforts. Some might consider this spam but thus far I have got nothing but positive responses from doing this so I will likely continue to do so.

[WritheNC]

Do not say:

OMFG GET OFF TEH CONTIENENT AND COME SAVE OUR BACKYAREDD!!1111111

If people are on a contient, they are more then likely on there because they WANT to, and are having FUN. Plzshoveyourtrooprequestupyourasskthx.

I couldn't agree more. This is a game first, and "pretend general" second.

[Kikinchikin]

SQUAD ATTACK LEFT FLANK!

:rofl:

/me pretends to be general

[FlakMan]

There shouldn't need to be a guide. It's called common sense.

[Indecisive]

/me gets up on horse and points sword in direction of enemy.

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAARGEEEEEEE!

[Gigabein]

There shouldn't need to be a guide. It's called common sense.

You wouldn't want to read a guide about being an effective CR5 written by pro's?

[DeadTeddy]

I'm not sure about this but I'm guessing CR5's are taking turns leading continents on werner NC. It's cause you rarely see more then one CR5 talking to the entire cont and I once's saw a CR5 around and /t him some info, he replied with "thx but XXXX is leading now"

[Indecisive]

CR5's suck. Most think they are better then everyone else.

WOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOO you are an xp whore! GG.

Talk to people as peers, not as some fucking general. No one appointed you leader. Just cause you have nothing better to do then play planetside dosent make you a better person, or leader for that matter.

CR5's should be used for tatical suggestions. Not all people will listen to you, so give it the fuck up.

[DeadTeddy]

any real leader is chosen first by himself. he leads and then he becomes a leader, not the other way around. and guess what, many people want leaders, and it's a damn shame others won't follow them.

[Firefly]

Squads aren't led by generals, they are led by corporals and sergeants, noncommissioned officers (who are the backbone of the Army). Generals command divisions, corps, and groups. A general wouldn't say "SQUAD ATTACK LEFT FLANK!", and I doubt that a sergeant would either. He'd shout "Ambush Left!" and then empty his magazine to his left flank.

Just some real-world pointers. :D

[Indecisive]

any real leader is chosen first by himself. he leads and then he becomes a leader, not the other way around. and guess what, many people want leaders, and it's a damn shame others won't follow them.


Too bad this game isnt real, people pay to play this game, people play games to have fun, and this game is a GAME.

And "gaining leadership" is different, at least in this GAME, then gaining rank. CR5's should get no more respect then any other member of the community. A cr5 is a person with more resources at his/her command then someone with no command rank.

It dosent take much skill to set 2 waypoints and say "ok, attack this and this, i need some l33t cr xp's omgwtfhaxorit.

[DeadTeddy]

I don't respect them based on their XP points. but if a guy is a tactical genius he is gonna make a good leader once he reaches CR5. yeah, there are many CR0 guys that could do a pretty good job but may I remind you that CR5 reflects being dedicated to this game, it means you know the game inside out, it means you have allot of experience and you can lead better then a newB. now stop putting CR5's down.
btw, I'm not CR5 if you think I'm defending myself.

[infinite loop]

CR5's suck. Most think they are better then everyone else.

WOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOO you are an xp whore! GG.

Talk to people as peers, not as some fucking general. No one appointed you leader. Just cause you have nothing better to do then play planetside dosent make you a better person, or leader for that matter.

CR5's should be used for tatical suggestions. Not all people will listen to you, so give it the fuck up.

It's this kind of attitude that makes coordinating in-game extremely trying at times, but unfortunately there are a lot of dickhead cr5s that cause this to happen. You have to realize that there are plenty of cr5s that just want to use their communication tools to help the empire be more successful, not enlarge their ego. I know I'm no better than anyone else, but I also don't think I'm an xp whore. I play this game for fun, just like you. I personally have never ordered anyone around or sent pointless contalls/globals. I'm just here to help out however I can. Tone down the negativity, and figure out which cr5s you can rely on. They can truly make the game more enjoyable. I know several that I will follow into battle anyday.

[ZjinPS]

The first night I played PS, I thought globals were a regular chat. 2 CR 5's were discussing how his girlfriend was bitching at him for playing too much PS the other kept shouting TOUCHDOWN! and cheering his foot ball team. Oh and yes, it was globals ... I cant remember the names nor would I list them anyway.. but it wasnt on emerald...

[Tssha]

Most people want direction, and want to win. People have more fun when they're winning, or at least when they're being effective. Pounding your head against a base's walls isn't much fun, loosely metaphorically speaking. People want leaders, it's in our nature. Most of the time though, those leaders are outfit. I'm sure that, when I become a CR 5, I'll talk to the Outfit Platoon leaders a lot, but that's likely because the Commander List will be out by the time I get there. Otherwise I wouldn't know who they were. :rofl: Seriously though, "/whosl" probably helps in that regard, somewhat.

Seriously though, if you don't want to be lead, then don't listen. Do your own thing if you want, but don't complain to me when we lose the continent. There's always room for another fighter in the Zerg.

[Indecisive]

It's this kind of attitude that makes coordinating in-game extremely trying at times, but unfortunately there are a lot of dickhead cr5s that cause this to happen. You have to realize that there are plenty of cr5s that just want to use their communication tools to help the empire be more successful, not enlarge their ego. I know I'm no better than anyone else, but I also don't think I'm an xp whore. I play this game for fun, just like you. I personally have never ordered anyone around or sent pointless contalls/globals. I'm just here to help out however I can. Tone down the negativity, and figure out which cr5s you can rely on. They can truly make the game more enjoyable. I know several that I will follow into battle anyday.


Hell, i am CR4 myself. I dont WANT CR5. I have heard too much shit, and seen too much shit to put myself in that catigory.

And yes, i do know there are some very good CR5's. These people use their powers when needed and only when they are needed....

Back in early release, the best vanu, at least, commander is a good friend of mine...wind, he knew when to use his com powers......

Its all a mater of thinking "would the majority of the people benifit from this message? In tactics AND fun?" Like i said, make suggestions not orders.

If someone is doing their homework, yeah, sure, Ill respect you as a person. But, as the game goes on, more people get the frickin backpack, and about 1 in 20 or so accually do a good job.

Globals trying to steal people from continents to your continent is not a good idea, speaking from every single person i have grouped with's point of view.

[martyr]

i am CR4 myself. I dont WANT CR5.

[MuNsTeR]

why, cr5 makes you look awesome and better everything

[MuNsTeR]

EDIT: sry