View Full Version : Empire behaviour
DeadTeddy
2004-01-04, 10:07 AM
It's weird how this happened but it seems each empire and it's players behave a different way. there are things you can expect one empire to do. for example you can always count on the VS to zerg the continent where the TR are fighting us, ALWAYS. and the TR are the serious ones, I went to emerald a few months back and played TR for a day. told them I got 400 grief with a vanguard in one day (played "flip the tank" with other vanguards) and they started giving me advice on how to drive! they take fighting way too seriously, it's kinda weird.
other things are for example, you know that when you fight the TR you will need to go fix the tech plant gen every 10 mins, those TR cloackers always blow it, they get off on it.
any other things you guys noticed?
Nekota
2004-01-04, 12:09 PM
I've noticed that the other empires aren't as focused as the TR are. For example me being one of those TR who "get's off" on blowing the Tech Plant generator (I do too hehe I love sneaking in and breaking your stuff :D ). I notice that no matter how far behind the lines I go you always have people in those bases. Well the majority of the time it's NC and they enjoy the population to do this but, generally every base is manned if even by a repair crew.
The VS I've noticed are zealots. They're like damn ticks. They never surrender and are never quite gone. I remember several times where we push them off the continent only to find that they're waiting outside the warpgate watching to see when we start moving on to hit us again.
TeraHertz
2004-01-04, 01:29 PM
Everyone knows VS werner usualy split your forces and the only reason it seems like your being zerged is NC chicken out once the first few vehicles breach the walls ususaly. The other day NC were working with VS to kill the TR. I know this for a fact and disagreed with it, but im not ranked so couldnt do anything about it. Also, for the past few days mass numbers of TR vanguards have been invading the field at VS bases.
You cannot compare TR emerald to TR Werner. Werner is a different planet in terms of population actions. I used to like TR werner, but since this past few vanguard incursions which in no way can be careless NC, I have lost ALL respect for them.
To be honest I DESPISE the multiple server empire bullshit. It is destroying the empire structure. It needs to get the fuck of Werner. We dont need it. I feel very strongly about this, and deplore it's implementation. The zergs you are seeing is often TR/NC joining VS and acting like lemmings. The established structure often look on in dismay at the literal hundreds of {NO OUTFIT} running around acting like NC.
Before multiple empires, sometimes VS would zerg, but only becasue we were beaten back to the brink. Other than that it was an illusion that people were double teaming, it happened to all.
Batousai
2004-01-04, 03:05 PM
The VS are punks they always fight when u least expect it ( At least on murkov anyways). I hate fightin the VS with there lasher spray ( It makes my cpu lag then I get killed). For all you VS out there "You all suck" i really mean that, the lasher sucks the magrider definitely sucks and your MAXs cheat like theres no tomorrow. i hope u all burn. :D :lol:
ORANGE
2004-01-04, 03:15 PM
I hate to tell you this but I know play for the NC and used to play for the VS I used to get owened more often by a jackhammer than I ever have with a lasher. Maybe it's just me.
Rbstr
2004-01-04, 03:22 PM
The NC (on markov) has two personalities, main stream, and the more serious people (also the vets people that have been around scence beta when markov was the bigest). The main stream is the huge crowds waiting for the hack with lost of TKing and shot being fired into the air. The vets are the peopoe organizing forces and doing the bulk of the capturing. Its amazing to see what a squad of us can do (or not do)
Mognoc
2004-01-04, 03:49 PM
I play on werner too, terahertz, I remember I killed you with a wallturret once...In all my experiance, the only time I have ever seen where the NC make a deal with TR is where an entire outfit of TR had JackHammers. The NC (us) on Werner aren't usually as dogged as the VS, but the TR give up very easily. I cant tell you how many times we have all breathed a sigh of relief after the last base is capped, and then the message: The Vanu Soverginity has captured [tower]. The Vanu Sovergeinety has hacked into [base].
SkunkPunk
2004-01-04, 04:32 PM
fuck all u stereotypical bitches... a vs cloaker has just as much chance at blowing a gen as a TR cloaker... any empire can come in between a battle if they want... sure the lasher spams, but SOE practically made the TR weapons for spamming, and how do VS maxes cheat? oh no he jumped i gotta move my mouse up... NC and TR have special abilities too u know, u never seen a row of TR maxes planted down in a tower with their own personal engineers behind them? with the NC shield they get to live through another decimator, giving them too much time to kill their attackers
Skunk, you flip out way more often, and a lot more incoherently than I do.
Chill.
xmodum
2004-01-04, 06:03 PM
the huge crowds waiting for the hack with lost of TKing and shot being fired into the air.
:mad: if i ever get tked while waiting for another hack ill quit and go to TR on werner :D
NC at emerald are exactly the same
Cryptica
2004-01-04, 06:05 PM
Well I must say that even though I play NC I really am displeased with the lack of overall organization on Emerald. I play NC because my friends do and I always have and probably always will. We are a small group, only about 6 or so, and when we all squad up we've taken base after base after base, it's so fun. But as for organization as an empire, one word can describe the NC: sucky.
VS well I just don't like them as a whole. I've ran across a couple that were cool and actually had some sweet ideas for tactics. Other than that, most VS I see are lasher-freaks (which is ok, if you got it, use it, I guess) or magrider-aholics. I don't hold much respect for them, but I won't bitch about them.
TR I will admit is my favorite empire on Emerald. I give props to all you TR on Emerald, you guys really are awesome. I've seen quite a few continents overrun by TR not by overwhelming numbers but by sheer strategy. Hats off to you!
JetRaiden
2004-01-04, 10:05 PM
THe Markov VS are very disorganized and hardly put up an impressive fight for the NC or TR. I've also noticed that when camping spawn tubes, the NC mostly crowd around them with a Jackhammer and 3-shot burst just racing to get a cheap kill.
noxious
2004-01-05, 12:15 AM
Empire trends I have noticed (on Emerald);
NC CR5s love to lead a lot more than the VS CR5s. I can not speak for TR as I have not reciently played TR Emerald.
VS use rexo far less than TR. I believe this is because more people cert in MAX suits, I have no way to say for certain however.
NC like to go the rexo + AV route where as VS just go with deci.
VS use MAXes. THis one we all know.
VS like to knife. My VS character has NEVER been knifed. I played NC this past week and got knifed four times. Everytime by VS characters.
GreyFlcn
2004-01-05, 03:24 AM
Let me just say that I noticed each empire generally acts different depending on what server they are on.
Kikinchikin
2004-01-05, 08:16 AM
TR CR5's (excluding my outfit's, myself and hamma and some others) are obsessed with home continents and searhus.
Black
2004-01-05, 08:37 AM
hamma isnt obsessed with home cont (especially ish)
Firefly
2004-01-05, 11:58 AM
TR CR5's (excluding my outfit's, myself and hamma and some others) are obsessed with home continents and searhus.
Yeah pretty sure he said EXCLUDING Hamma et al.
RagingSpeedhorn
2004-01-05, 12:25 PM
Werner TR : Organised and mainly infantry and Reaver / Mozzie
Emerald TR : As above, but use Gals a lot more. Especially as public transport to the next base.
Hamma
2004-01-05, 01:14 PM
Yea, I really like it when one of the CR5's come on command chat and start blaming everyone for getting us double teamed by both empires. I also wish I understood the infatuation with Searhus, going to a neutral continent simply makes the other empires go to our home continents.. lets attack the enemy not neutral ground.
I absofuckinglutely hate Searhus... Especially when damn VS MAXes sit on the Matagi cliff and start pelting plasma rain everywhere.
I hate Searhus so much ARGH!!!
Red October
2004-01-05, 04:06 PM
I played VS for the first time and I noticed the differences are definately thier. I started playing with tactics I usually use for TR...that ended in a hurry. Quickly learned that trying to take something down with lots of firepower and ammo was not the way to play a VS. Instead a lot more stick and move tactics. Although I did catch NC and TR both off-gaurd on occasion when I came barreling straight at them. Racked up a few kills that way (soon as I shot them, they seemed ready to manuever or they manuvered to get a better vantage point in anticipation of my next move...they never thought I would charge them head on).
Because of TR's spam firing, TR does a lot more charging. Here's a tactic for VS...grow some balls! Getting nailed by TR on a base, re-spawned in the spawn room, ran for the equipment terminal....only to find that the facility was hacked and no equipment available. Pulled out the suppressor and waited for the inevitable...which wasn't too long. The very next second TR comes running in with MCG's. VS guys are running all around the room with their stick and no where to move tactics. I say...were screwed and charge the door with TR coming in....I make it through with a few scratches and head down a hall to the very right (TR coming in straight ahead). I turn around and see three TR guys with MCG's shooting everything they got into the spawn room...completely oblivous to the fact that thier was a VS trooper with a supressor on thier flank. I start shooting and mow down four TR's (three with MCG) before someone realizes "hey...were getting shot from the side" and take me down. Don't stay in a spawn room when the enemy has spam weapons. Otherwise, your just fish in a barrel.
Another example, VS is on the offensive against NC (thank god, I felt like I was committing treason for every TR I shot and killed...also felt like I deserved every death from them). With VS manuverabilty and quickness...we quickly take them out until one base is left on Esamir (I think), one road to the base with water on the left and a high ridge on the right. NC is throwing out Tanks as fast as they can...you would think we would charge the base and nail the vehicle terminal fast....nope. Instead every VS takes to the ridge and shoots down at the road...which is great at holding the road...but not taking a base. The VS advantage of speed and agility is nuetralized as we get bogged down to a slugfest war (and I got tired of attacking the base by myself...yes thats right a lone VS trooper makes it to the base wall...only to get shot by a gazillion NC as they are waiting for the VS to make a move...that never came). Well it isn't long before NC decides thier bored and swing around from behind...and we now have a two front war. The road of death and sporadic battles over the countryside. This goes on for a couple of hours when I decide....!@#$ it, I'm outta here. VS...Grow some balls. TR....learn to regroup.
Professor Frink
2004-01-05, 11:22 PM
Tactics are somewhat different from empire to empire but we ALL zerg so don't try to pin it on one & not the other. I've been on the recieving end of many NC as well at TR zergs. On the other hand I was involved in a huge attack on Ish some months ago with my old NC character and the whole mass of us stayed just over a hill spamming with Phoenix/Vangard fire. If the VS never rush in how would we ever take a base? Sounds like you were taking part in an unorganized offensive. It all depends on whos running things on that particular night & how the populations are that night. Each empire has strong & weak CR5's. It's just a matter of whos logged on.
SandTrout
2004-01-06, 12:08 AM
I've played on NC and TR on emerald, and I noticed that TR CR5s do a lot less globaling than NC CR5s. The TR do blow generators more than the VS do it seems like. Also, the VS NEVER give up on a continent as long as they have a tower. They will try to infantry zerg from a tower for hours until they are pushed off the cont.
Also, Emerald VS, try launching attacks that aren't just piggybacks on TR offencives, because that is all you ever do. Combined with your "fight to the last hopeless tower" idium, it's fucking imposible to push the TR back off of our continents.
The Emerald NC also seem to concentrate on defence more the the TR and VS do. I think this comes from practice when we resecure those towers on hossin, we don't get stuck in a 6-hour stailmate at bitol and voltan, or compleatly overrun.
MuNsTeR
2004-01-06, 12:31 AM
lol im one of those people who likes to do pointless but fun stuff like knife fighting and ant derbies
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