all my wonderful PS problems [Archive]

undetected

2004-01-05, 01:04 AM

whenever something eventful happends (ie: me getting killed or me killing someone) the game freezes and i have to reboot my computer. And whenever i try to hack into enemy towers the same thing happends. When i try to enter a freindly tower same thing... so i try to stay away from any towers... which sucks cuz i cant capture them! :scared: every time my computer freezes i get a BIG windows error message that says that one of my drivers or something is causing my system to be unstable! what the heck! please frikin help me. :huh: im gunna install a new ge-force 4 video card. and the continents take forever to load... please what is wrong with my computer?? :mad:

dscytherulez

2004-01-05, 01:06 AM

Go to either www.omegacorner.com or www.nvidia.com and download the latest drivers for your video card.

BTW: How much RAM do you have?

undetected

2004-01-05, 08:34 AM

im not sure... i dont think i have alot
i know that will fix the problem with level loading but im more worried about the sudden crashes

dscytherulez

2004-01-05, 10:45 AM

Well, yes RAM definately will help with the loading times, but depending on how much you have it might be the cause of the crashing. Anything below 512mb might cause some problems. Did you install those drivers? Any change at all?

Rbstr

2004-01-05, 04:20 PM

I could be a driver problem(most likely), or a hardware problem too, Definatly try the Nvidia stndard 53.03's they are very stable from my use of them. Also try to get the specs of your computer to the best of your abilities

undetected

2004-01-05, 05:59 PM

ok.. conputer specs...:
2.20 ghz intel celron processor
40 gb hard drive, Ultra ATA/100 (whatever that means)
intel extreme graphics 3d
256 mb DDR for optimal performance (yeh right)
56k modem thing (that i dont need cuz i have cable)
"Media reader 6-in-1"
Eathernet 10/1000mbps
(for my broadband connection)
and 5 usb ports
now this is what it says on the front sticker of my computer
i now that i have 23,406,510,080 bytes free by going to start, selecting run, running "command" (without the quotes) and then typing dir...
SO there are my system specs
or at least whats on the sticker on the front of my computer
OH and my computer is an E-MACHINES coomputer
my OS is windows XP PRO
thats it
or all i know
im installin the new video card today
ill tell you what happends

Spee

2004-01-05, 06:19 PM

OH and my computer is an E-MACHINES coomputer

Take it form an eMachines user.

You. Are. Fucked.

undetected

2004-01-05, 06:21 PM

noooooo am i really screwed?
please this is fucked
what the fuck
how do u play then?

Rbstr

2004-01-05, 07:00 PM

you sir have intergrated graphics! We must fix this, yeha you are are very screwed

undetected

2004-01-05, 07:15 PM

how can i fix this
please help me
im gunna install a new vidoe card tomarrow if that helps
ok
here are the errors i get:
First error (after loading level or going near certain spots)
WINDOWS-SYSTEM ERROR
Microsoft Windows has detected and recovered from a device failure.
Please save yiour work and reboot to restor full functionality
the second error:
ok i will edit this in a few minutes... as i only get this error sometimes when it happends.
it asks if i want to send an error report
ok im gunna go try again
im also gunna go and tune down the graphics to the lowest and see what happends
the wierd thing is this doesnt happen at my sanctuary!

Rbstr

2004-01-05, 07:22 PM

yeah you need the lowest setting possible with that

undetected

2004-01-05, 07:45 PM

ok i did the lowest settings possible and when i go to play the continent fully loads and then i get error number 1... then i restart and i would usually get error number 2 but i dont
ive done it like 5 times now
how can i fix this shit
:(

NoSurrender

2004-01-05, 08:56 PM

well first off your graphics are super low levels. you have the bare minimum which most people feel doesnt even make it playable. Personally, if i were u id get a new comp.

Ait'al

2004-01-05, 09:50 PM

60 Decent Mid sized Case (Approximately)
180 Asus P4C800-E deluxe
250 WD Caviar SE 2500JD 250gig 7200rpm SATA
181 ATI 9600 XT
384 P4 3.2 512mb L2 cache
345 1gig Corsair twinx pro (2x512), Or 254$ for twinxLL with platinum or black heatsink, same size
205 SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, less for the SB Audigy 2 ZS platinum.
197 Plextor PX-708A Black DVD(DVD/R/RW,CD/R/RW)

1450$-1616$

Im imaging these prices will be going down alot soon. The ATI 9800xt is only 435 at http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/listbyCat.asp?Cat=VIDE

Do you guys think the new ram sizes will make a maxed out 32bit pentium obsolete in a year or will it take a few years?

Rbstr

2004-01-05, 09:59 PM

ram over 1 or two gb doen't do anythig right now

I Hate Pants

2004-01-05, 10:08 PM

I recommend formatting your computer with a sledge hammer, and then buy a completly new computer. You'll never be able to run PS with specs like that.

undetected

2004-01-05, 11:19 PM

u guys know im not rollin in money
and im certaintly NOT gunna get a new fukin computerjust to play PS
now...
CAN I UPGRADE MY COMPUTER SO THAT I CAN PLAY
THE GAMEPLAY AND GRAPHICS ARE FINE.... AND IM GUNNA INSTALL A NEW VIDEO CARD TOMARROW...
SO GRAPHICS ARE NOT THE ISSUE...
HERE IS THE EXACT ERROR MESSAGE THAT I GET:
------------------------------------------------------------------
The Display Driver for Intel 828456/GL/GE/PE/GV/Graphics Controller
is the cause for your systems instability
------------------------------------------------------------------
stop tellin me to go buy crap that i cant afford... cuz im only frikkin 12
and i get a weekly allowance of 10 dollars...
it would take me at least 3 years to earn that much...
so i cant afford a new computer
and my parents sure as HELL are not gunna get me a new computer
EDIT: and what's a sledge hammer?

I Hate Pants

2004-01-05, 11:35 PM

Well with that sorta money I dont think you can do much. Perhaps an extra stick of 256mb of ram? With a new graphic card and 512mb of ram you should be able to run PS on low settings. Then again you have an e-machine so the ram will probably be like PC800. Which sucks ass. Avoid areas with large amounts of players.

A sledge hammer is a large hammer I enjoy using to beat the shit outta my cat with every time it bites my leg.

undetected

2004-01-05, 11:41 PM

well i am a piolot mostly
but staying away from where all the players are takes the fun away from the game

Ait'al

2004-01-06, 01:46 AM

Is the computer YOURS? Do you know how to open one up? Do you have a manual for it. Maybe we can find out what you can upgrade it to or suggest a cheap motherboard and ram to fix it up. But we have to find out exactly what is on your comp. You can probly get something sufficient for very cheap. And then maybe we can figure a way to tell you how to install it. Maybe it will give you good edge on computer jobs in the future. Or give you the obsession most of us got to get us into computers.

Being 12 has never stopped people in hte past from figuring this stuff out.

undetected

2004-01-06, 10:05 AM

ok well you wont find my model on the e machines site because their assholes and they never update... my dad opened up my computer yesterday and told me that i would be able to cram alot of crap in there... and i just found out that i dont have a video card in my system already, i just have an onboard video thing built into my motherboard..
BUT
im gunna install a new video card as soon as my dad calls the e machines toll free number so they can hopefully tell him how to disable the onboard video so he can install my new video card...
SO
my model number is D2246
it came with win. xp pro installed and an antivirus
i disabled the antivirus before i installed planetside... (or at least my dad did)
ive tried reinstalling
and even without my new video card the graphics are good...
and they actually looked better when i tuned down the settings...
and im not stupid... i figured out what was wrong with my computer when i used to play halo (and still do :) )
as soon as i learn exactly what i have in my computer i will tell you
ill probably know by tonight on Jan 6th
-kidwhodesperatelyneedsanALIENWAREcomputer

Ait'al

2004-01-06, 01:04 PM

Just remember the best thing you can do is get one gig of ram right now, or as close as possible. Its not as expensive as you would think. Tell you dad to get your motherboard specifications down to a T. We need number of ram slots type of ram ram speeds supported etc. And how much ram you have now in waht amounts(do you have one chip with 256 or mulitples of others now), and what speed ram you have now. Type includes how many pins, and what the PC type is(PC133, PC 3200, PC 2700, PC2000, etc.) which will also tell us the speed etc. But we need to know what you motherboard can support in both how much you can add and what speeds you can use so we have a broader sense of what to look at to look for it or tell you more about what you can get.

undetected

2004-01-06, 05:05 PM

ok... ill get him to do that...
im at school right now but ill be home in an hour
ill do what you said as soon as i get home

Spee

2004-01-06, 05:17 PM

u
HERE IS THE EXACT ERROR MESSAGE THAT I GET:
------------------------------------------------------------------
The Display Driver for Intel 828456/GL/GE/PE/GV/Graphics Controller
is the cause for your systems instability
------------------------------------------------------------------

Let me interpret the error message.

YOUR VIDEO CARD IS TOO FUCKING SHITTY TO RUN THIS GAME. BUY A NEW ONE, OR STEAL ONE.

Either that, or find updated drivers for an Onboard Intel 828456/GL/GE/PE/GV/Graphics Controller. :rolleyes:

Spee

2004-01-06, 05:19 PM

-kidwhodesperatelyneedsanALIENWAREcomputer

AlienWare is geigh. Build your own, or get a falcon northwest box.

Double post, OH NOS!!11

undetected

2004-01-06, 05:48 PM

did you even read all of the last page?
im installin a new video card today
and disableing the onboard video
the intel GE/LE/AD/23432 or whatever i said it was is gunna be replaced
ill see if anything changes
my computer is more powerful than you guys think it is
its just that i dont know the exact system specs
and im home now so ill know about RAM and stuff in about 2 hours
meanwhile im gunna go atempt to play PS
somehow ive made it to BR 6!
and i havent even killed anyone yet

undetected

2004-01-06, 06:19 PM

ok i have 248 mb of ram and 1 slot open :(

Ait'al

2004-01-06, 06:30 PM

If you ahve 248 im guessing you ahve like 3 chips getting you that far 8( If you do it wont support 1 gig from what i know. You might want to build a new comp. You can build or maybe even referbish what you have very cheap. You have a hard drive video card adn probly something else to throw in like maybe a power supply. You can buy Motherboard that support 800mhz bus and 2-3 gigs of ram for like 50 bucks now 8) ther just not major brands.

Rbstr

2004-01-06, 06:57 PM

Yeah your graphic driver is messes up, You need to find your integrated graphics drivers and reinstall it

undetected

2004-01-06, 07:13 PM

well these are my exact specs...
and upgrading may be an option...
how much do u think it will cost?
Microsoft� Windows� XP Professional
Bundled with eView� 17f2 - 17" Flat Screen CRT
16" Viewable, 0.27mm dot pitch
Intel� Celeron� Processor 2.20 GHz (w/128KB L2 cache & 400 MHz FSB)
Intel 845GL Chipset
7.25"w x 14.125"h x 16"d
40 GB HDD
AOL 3 month membership included, click here for details
256 MB DDR (PC2100)
56K* ITU v.92 ready Fax/Modem
10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet
48x Max. Write CD-RW Drive; 6-in-1 Media Reader (Secure Digital (SD), Smart Media, Compact Flash, Memory Stick, IBM Micro Driver, MultiMedia Card); 3.5" 1.44MB FDD
Multimedia Office Keyboard, 2-Button Wheel Mouse, Amplified Speakers
AC '97 Audio
Intel Extreme Graphics 3D (845GL Shared)
Pre-Installed Software: Microsoft Works 6.0, Microsoft Money 2002, Encarta Online, Adobe� Acrobat� Reader, Microsoft Media Player, Real Player, Internet Explorer, Netscape Navigator, MSN, CompuServe, AOL 3-Month Membership Included, Norton AntiVirus 2003 (90-day complimentary subscription)
5 USB 2.0 ports (1 on front), 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Microphone-In & Head Phone jack on front, Audio In & Out, 3 PCI slots (2 available)

I Hate Pants

2004-01-06, 07:38 PM

Are you trying to run this game on 56k?

Spee

2004-01-06, 07:46 PM

And, are you ABSOLOUTLY FUCKING SURE you have an AGP port?

I bought an AGP card, then found out that I DONT FUCKING HAVE ONE, AS FUCKING EMACHINES SUCKS MY FUCKING COCK. :mad: :mad:

Im just utterly pissed off that I cant make this a decent machine because of the OEM's lack of cool.

undetected

2004-01-06, 08:00 PM

pants: no im runnin it on cable and i have that selected in the game...
and Spee: AGP stands for advanced gaming port right? well im not sure if i do... so
as always i will ask my dad when he gets home.. which now should be in about a half an hour

oh yeh and spee... i know ur frikin pissed at emachines but please dont cuss like that.

EDIT: and how much do u guys think it would cost to upgrade or build a new computer that fits the need of ps?

Rbstr

2004-01-06, 08:03 PM

you need to open it up and see, it will be near the bottom of the CPU sink, it will look different from the others (always on top of the "stack"), and it will be set off to the right a bit more

undetected

2004-01-06, 08:04 PM

ill look tonight

Spee

2004-01-06, 09:11 PM

oh yeh and spee... i know ur frikin pissed at emachines but please dont cuss like that.

I have yet to begin to curse!

Ait'al

2004-01-07, 12:35 AM

For one it can depend on what of your current comp you can take out. Is the proccessore removable 8) you can take hardrives, try the new vid card and then get one later if its not good enough. Ill make one on a low end 800mhz bus. This is all form newegg.com this is nowhere near as cheap as you can get it.

800mhz Processors 2.4 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-157&catalog=343&depa=1 164$

800mhz Motherboards Abit PT800 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-163&catalog=280&depa=1 65.99

Memory 333mhz 1 gig http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-433&catalog=147&depa=1 211$

441$(motherboard, ram, new 800mhz processor)

Just hook up your harddrive and vid card or whatever and you have a new comp. You can do this alot cheaper than this too. If you just get teh motherboard and hte ram and you can swap your processor in it you may be set. (277$ Motherboard, ram)

The motherboard is the main thing you need to get and is nice adn cheap 8) It wont support 2100 ram though.

If your old processor isnt removable you can get another one for 66 dollars instead of the 800mhz one above http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-175&catalog=343&depa=1

That puts you at 343$ (Motherboard, ram, new 2.2celron)

This is unless theres soemthing about an e-machine that wont let you put it in the case?

And the difference between the 2.4 and higher 800mhz processors isnt much so here are some more for almost the same price.

2.6 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-159&catalog=343&depa=1 174$ lol look at the price rise ^^
2.8 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-161&catalog=343&depa=1 214$
3.0 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-156&catalog=343&depa=1 300$ this is the cutoff probly on neweggs site for what your going to spend

so if you are getting a new processor spend the extra 40 dollars on the 2.8

Smaug

2004-01-07, 12:53 AM

That mobo might not fit the emachines case, some major comp manufacturers have their own standards slightly different from atx, and they have special oem mobos made, then make their own cases, you should check just to be safe.

undetected

2004-01-08, 03:33 AM

hey guys guess what?
THE VIDEO CARD FIXED IT!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HELP

Rbstr

2004-01-08, 04:24 PM

The PT800 sucks! the 865 or 875 are much better dual channel chipsets, and the new single channel p4 chipset is much better than its competors (the 865 and 875 just pwn all p4 systems right now)

undetected

2004-01-09, 10:10 AM

well im still encountering a problem... the game is eithor hella laggin or the fps on my computer are not very high... especially inside of a building... (exept towers :) )
what is the cause of this?
im guessing not enough ram?
or is it my processor...
and i already have an intel 2.2 celron processor...

ZionsFire

2004-01-11, 12:37 AM

MY GOD! SOMEONE WITH A WORSE COMPUTER THAN I!? HOLY CRAP! I'm surprised your computer doesn't just give up and tell you, "I'm to fucking shitty to run this game. PLEASE stop trying!"

Ait'al

2004-01-11, 02:08 AM

i dont think 2.2 is that bad, you need ram. alot of people are playing on under 2.0, but there not using celrons usually. I dont think atleast. But yes its definitely ram. you need more ram.

NoSurrender

2004-01-11, 03:47 AM

ok u need more ram. but the computers aitial is spitting out are wayy too expensive. u can do something that will run PS on much less.
[EDIT] got it AMD Athlon XP 2500+-$90
BIOSTAR nForce2 400 BIOSTAR nForce2 400-$53
Geil Ultra Series 256MB DDR PC-3200X2-45x2

Total-$196 for CPU memory and motherboard. i can add in vid card and HD if u want.

Ait'al

2004-01-11, 04:26 AM

You just want him to get an AMD 8\ :rollseyes:

Mine is better and i was using higher end ram as an example so yea its more expensive. Dont try to pull cheap crap like that :p ;)

And he doesnt really need a new Procesor i was just offering the price of upgrading to 800mhz.(unless his processor doesnt come off) IN which case another one is only 62$

400/533/800mhz MoBo ABIT 865PE http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-156&catalog=280&depa=1 86.99

Corsair 1gig (2x512) http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-480&catalog=147&depa=1 151$ hes better off not buying 4 chips and get something he can realy upgrade later.

238$ If you cant transfer your procesor then its 300 on the dot for another celron 2.2.
My system can be easily upgraded to a pentium 3.2 4gigs etc. He has more options with intel. And it is easier for him to upgrade the ram this way, he wont have to replace any thing to get more.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-177&catalog=343&depa=1 62$ 2.2 celron
If you want to get a beter celron
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-179&catalog=343&depa=1 82$ 2.5
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-178&catalog=343&depa=1 90$ 2.6
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-180&catalog=343&depa=1 107$ 2.7
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-181&catalog=343&depa=1 126$ 2.8

And i think your system cost 233$ not 196$? he needs a gig and he can get it for 41$ a chip at newegg.com. Even at 41 chip, with 1 gig it will cost 307$.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-608&catalog=147&depa=1 41$ no shipping.

Rbstr

2004-01-11, 01:05 PM

AMD's are fine and they generaly outpreform the pentiums at the lower end of things. Cell's aren't all that bad, there a p4 with half the cache and a slower fsb but i don't have that much lower performance than someone with a p4 2.4 would have

Smaug

2004-01-11, 02:08 PM

You just want him to get an AMD 8\ :rollseyes:

No you just want him to get intel. AMD is a fine brand. Generally cheaper and you can still beat intels. If he went with something like pyro said that would be a good choice. Only thing I would change is getting a better mobo, like an abit or asus.

Rbstr

2004-01-11, 02:15 PM

yeah don't skimp on a mobo, get a decent one liek teh p4p800 for an Intel or the NF2 bord that asus makes

NoSurrender

2004-01-11, 02:38 PM

biostar is a reputable motherboard manufactorer. Thats a Nforce 2 400 chipset. Not everyone can afford the computers u put aitial. I only went with 512 ram because not everyone can afford to get a gig. when i was his age i got aruond $200 for christmas and i know that he could afford that possibly. toss in this video card EVGA GeForce FX 5900SE-$188 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-179&depa=1&section=1. (its a nice card i talked about with rbstr heres some reviews.http://firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_fx_5900_xt_review/ ) and Asus nForce2 Ultra 400 A7N8X-$88 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-455&catalog=22&manufactory=BROWSE&depa=1 (if you want a better motherboard.
So "bigger" computer reusing hard drive and the rest.
AMD Athlon XP 2500+-$90
Asus nForce2 Ultra 400 A7N8X-$88
Geil Value Series Golden Dragon 512MB DDR PC-3200x2- 75x2=150
EVGA GeForce FX 5900SE-$188
Total=$516
Thats a damn nice rig right there.

Rbstr

2004-01-11, 03:14 PM

Pyro's got a good one, the only thing i would do would be to get one stick of 512 instead of 2x256, then save up for a while and byuy a second stick of 512.

Also i would realy go for the Asus, i have never seen a bad reviw and they just recently swept the TGH Readers chois Mobo awards

Ait'al

2004-01-11, 04:46 PM

And you can also get the ATI 9600xt for the same price at www.FuturePowerpc.com (http://www.futurepowerpc.com/) if you want to go with that over Nvidia. http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCODE=VB_ATI_ATI_9600XT_128TD 185$ right now and no ground shipping on it ;)

NoSurrender

2004-01-11, 08:05 PM

aitial did u read that review. That 5900 stomped ALL over the 9600pro. and u can overclock it on standard cooling to preform on level as a normal one. yea i went with two sticks because i figured dual channel but, thinking about it now it sounds like a better idea.

Rbstr

2004-01-11, 08:50 PM

Yes ait you brough one thing to mind, Nvidia kinda screwed up last year with their cards, but they are remedying it. One thing pyro, i bet you could flsh the bios of that to a 5950 and be able to realy oc it with some cooling. Thats one of the coolthings with the 5950, 5900, and the 5900 ultra (dono about the XT) you can flsh the bios of the ultra and the regular and effectivly make it a 5950

ZionsFire

2004-01-11, 11:27 PM

Hey um, Aital. Mind lending me your money tree for lets say..forever?

NoSurrender

2004-01-12, 12:31 AM

zion aitial hasnt even bulit the computer he talks so much about. Im pretty sure he hasnt even played PS.

Ait'al

2004-01-12, 02:00 AM

IM building it very soon and Rbstr the 5900 is the same lv as the 9800 isnt it? in model type atleast. and whats that have to do with anything Pyro?

I have to build a nice computer so i have one soon. I need it soon and im going ot need it for several years and i want to build pre PCI-ex.

Daleon

2004-01-12, 10:12 AM

Ha, I didn't know Pyro was NoSurrenderTR. I'll have to get in some free tk's when were in squad again heh.

Ait'al, its easier to take advice from someone who actually uses the stuff they talk about ya know. I know quite a bit of stuff from just reading on the net and stuff, but I know ALOT more bc I actually have been buying, building, and using all this stuff for a very long time. If you haven't been into the 'scene' since the 486 days, you missed alot and thats why you prolly only trust intel. Those of us who got shafted left and right by intel during much of the late 90's on the other hand have very different feelings.

Ait'al

2004-01-12, 04:13 PM

Dale its not that i wasnt "on the scene" im aware of hte changes its just that i have been dealing with different types of "memory loss". I know why people changed to AMD over intel.

NoSurrender

2004-01-12, 05:02 PM

Ok. Rbstr i read on a forum (it was late at night) that when someone flashed his 5900 to a 5950. he had overclocked it to the same speed on both. something around 400 something 844. Also Daleon i said HEY ITS PYRO!!! when i first squadded w/ u

Daleon

2004-01-12, 08:49 PM

Ha, I must have missed that. I'm usually in a blood thirsty killing frenzy 99% of the time that I play.

Rbstr

2004-01-12, 09:08 PM

Ait the 5900 is suposed to be on the 9800's level but the 9800 is better than in in jsut about everything, but its more expensive, and besides that 5900 can be flashed up to a 5950 wich is just about as good as a 9800pro.

the reason you can make it OC higher is becasue it ups the voltages to the memory and GPU, i'm tyring to find out if i can flahs my 5600 to an 5600ultra for the same results(not expecting to much but it could help)