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OneManArmy
2004-01-08, 04:45 PM
ooo new gun!!!! I want dont really need to say much since the links say it all.

HK XM8 (http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/rifles-carbines/xm8.html)


comparison sheet (very interesting)
http://www.hk-usa.com/corporate/media/pdf/XM8M4Comparison.pdf

Videos
http://www.hk-usa.com/video/XM8_auto.wmv
http://www.hk-usa.com/video/Comments002.wmv



it is suhweet!!!

Setari
2004-01-08, 04:47 PM
looks like a greener and more armyish version of the g36

OneManArmy
2004-01-08, 04:49 PM
ahh but its soo much more, if you read about it.

Biohazzard56
2004-01-08, 04:53 PM
Futuristic Looking *still hopeing for Halo MA5B Assault Rifle*

Squeeky
2004-01-08, 05:02 PM
Wtf, your allowed to buy that shit online??

Bighoss
2004-01-08, 05:19 PM
looks cool, very intimidating looking, I wish it made a cooler sound when it shot stuff though, that would have made it really futuristic.

Everay
2004-01-08, 06:05 PM
yea big, if only it could sound like a blaster from star wars. you know, they should prolly put in a loud speaker to make those noises :P

JetRaiden
2004-01-08, 06:11 PM
:lol: yea.

Kind of reminds me when the OICW came out. I dont think that will get anywhere. doesnt look very accurate and its stilll primarily a standard assault rifle with a nicer body. nothing groundbreaking.

Everay
2004-01-08, 06:11 PM
well, ease of use i think is the groundbreaking part.

OneManArmy
2004-01-08, 06:21 PM
its cheaper easier to maintain, can fire with water in it. its jsut all around better gun.

Dharkbayne
2004-01-08, 06:50 PM
Can it shoot nades and stuff, or is that just in SOF II

Everay
2004-01-08, 07:23 PM
it can have a attachable nade launcher that loads from the side attached to it.

Indecisive
2004-01-08, 07:37 PM
Now thats a sweet gun. Why the hell they gonna wait till q5 2005 to switch em out? It better in EVERY WAY. Cept it looks kinda plasticy. Not quite as badass.

xmodum
2004-01-08, 08:02 PM
well, they arnt thinking of how to make a gun look sound or feel like the koolest gun evar, they want a light weight gun that is perfect for the battle , not to be the koolest 1's on the block

JetRaiden
2004-01-08, 08:14 PM
its cheaper easier to maintain, can fire with water in it. its jsut all around better gun.

Yea some weapons like an M16 will jam if you get a speck of sand in it.

Firefly
2004-01-08, 08:38 PM
:lol: yea.

Kind of reminds me when the OICW came out. I dont think that will get anywhere.
You're looking at how far it got. That, my dear friend, is the descendant of the OICW.

Indecisive
2004-01-08, 08:42 PM
well, they arnt thinking of how to make a gun look sound or feel like the koolest gun evar, they want a light weight gun that is perfect for the battle , not to be the koolest 1's on the block

Yeah, i know that, im just pointing that out. Id take the uber plastic gun over a heavy ass pos that looked badass anyday.

AztecWarrior
2004-01-08, 09:39 PM
I don't think it will be approved. The US Army is already testing the XM29 (a.k.a H&K OICW). This new gun would have to kick major ass to even be on the same field.

The OICW is too advanced. One of my personal principles of design is that 90% of the time something must be evolutionary, but not revolutionary, to suceeed.

Bighoss
2004-01-08, 11:11 PM
I don't think it will be approved. The US Army is already testing the XM29 (a.k.a H&K OICW). This new gun would have to kick major ass to even be on the same field.

The OICW is too advanced. One of my personal principles of design is that 90% of the time something must be evolutionary, but not revolutionary, to suceeed.

yea that gun is amazing, espically with those thermobaric bullets I've heard about.

AztecWarrior
2004-01-08, 11:14 PM
I'm not saying the XM29 is bad, I'm just saying it's unsuitable as an infantry arm.

Rbstr
2004-01-08, 11:26 PM
That gun is sweet, it also gave me a ps wepon's idea, look for it in a few days.

SkunkPunk
2004-01-08, 11:29 PM
DUDE!!! POST A PIC OF YOU HUMPING IT!!!(hope i wasnt too late, havent checked the humping thread)

Setari
2004-01-08, 11:30 PM
the OICW seems more inclined to Special Forces or Navy SEALs than anything else...i think it's too advanced to be a standard infantry weapon..

Corrosion
2004-01-09, 01:42 AM
Guns are getting more and more Halo-ish.

martyr
2004-01-09, 02:02 AM
yep. just got my new plasma pistol from S&W on monday

Corrosion
2004-01-09, 02:04 AM
1337, come shoot me.

Everay
2004-01-09, 02:58 AM
if anything, i think the XM29 will be issued to a few soldiers per squad, or what not, you know, like a only a few soldiers per squad have a SAW?

Dharkbayne
2004-01-09, 02:59 AM
They said it's gonna replace the m16 and m4

Everay
2004-01-09, 03:38 AM
wow, interesting, thats gonna kick ass, is there a time table for such a event?

Dharkbayne
2004-01-09, 03:47 AM
Can't remember, it says it in the article though

Incompetent
2004-01-09, 04:05 AM
No, they said the XM8 is going to replace the M-16/M-4, if they have any sense at all the XM29 is going to be issued to just a few guys a squad like an M249.

Everay
2004-01-09, 04:14 AM
WEAK! i read, they said theyre building the factory to make them sometime by the end of 2004!

MaeWyn
2004-01-09, 04:29 AM
No, they said the XM8 is going to replace the M-16/M-4, if they have any sense at all the XM29 is going to be issued to just a few guys a squad like an M249.

That's exactly how they're doing it.

OneManArmy
2004-01-09, 04:52 AM
though we're running out of excuses to shoot people with all our new guns.. :(

JetRaiden
2004-01-09, 05:15 AM
It doesnt look as versitle as teh M16, the body looks clunky and unnessecary.

Firefly
2004-01-09, 08:27 AM
Please explain to me how the M16 is versatile. You put a magazine in (not a fucking clip), you squeeze the trigger. You switch between "semi" and "burst". That's not versatile.

Dharkbayne
2004-01-09, 01:05 PM
Oh, I suck at remembering most gun names, anyhoo, the m16 is nowhere near as versatile as the XM thingies, nade launchers, scopes, ect. It's a transformer, that kills people.

xuur
2004-01-09, 02:18 PM
Yea some weapons like an M16 will jam if you get a speck of sand in it.

that was the earliest versions of the M16, where tolerances and metalurgy wasnt quite what it is now. the M16 is a very capable combat wep has been time honored and well proven over time. so much so that its one of the most copied and design licensed weapons ever used by a military force (with the possible exception of the 1911 .45 auto). its sad that stories of the original problems that plagued it still follow it decades later.


as far as this new one, yeah..thats pretty spiffy. I'll have to look into adding one to my collection.

Squeeky
2004-01-09, 04:04 PM
Fuck guns, save money and throw rocks at people.

SkunkPunk
2004-01-09, 05:32 PM
Fuck guns, save money and throw rocks at people.

or used batteries

Firefly
2004-01-10, 08:43 AM
that was the earliest versions of the M16, where tolerances and metalurgy wasnt quite what it is now. the M16 is a very capable combat wep has been time honored and well proven over time. so much so that its one of the most copied and design licensed weapons ever used by a military force (with the possible exception of the 1911 .45 auto). its sad that stories of the original problems that plagued it still follow it decades later.
You haven't shot an M16 lately, I take it. I've had M16s jam on me when firing. Maybe not a speck of dirt, but during a hot zone when you've blasted seven thirty-round magazines you don't have time to fuck around and stop the fighting to clean your weapon, so you can unload again.

I maintain my rifle VERY well. It's pristine, and it's lubricated and kept free of dirt, and it works fine sometimes. Other times, I have to do SPORTS and still other times I have to completely pull the magazine and toss the round out. THEN, if your magazine (not a fucking clip) has some dirt in there, it will fuck the weapon up.

And then OTHER times, I can slap a blank adapter on there and fire a dozen full magazines and not have one misfeed, double-feed, jam, or malfunction. And typically, blanks will jam or not fire the most frequently. It's a very wishy-washy weapon, and I think I'll just stick with my Pig or my SAW.