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infinite loop
2004-01-09, 01:23 PM
So, who has seen weird shit lately? I've posted along with a ton of other people on the OF tech support, but have gotten no answer. I just want to get a feel for how big a problem this is, and see if we can escalate it to someone at SOE who will take a look at it. Basically, I've seen these things lately:

After more encounters with this problem last night, I am now positive that it has nothing to do with a CPU getting maxed out or anything. These issues occur when I am in a tower by myself, or when I'm in a big battle. Number of people on the continent or same area seems to have no bearing. Here's some of the weird things I've had happen to me since this past Saturday, that have NEVER happened in my 8 months of playing:
1) Stamina draining to ~20% while using surge. Turn off surge, and stamina immediately shoots back up to 100%. This happened about 1/3 of the time I used surge yesterday, and there was no lag-like delay when it happened, it was immediate.
2) Players taking enough damage to be killed 4 times over and not dying, and players dying without seemingly ever being shot. I've had both happen. I'll unload a full clip of a jackhammer into someone from behind, and they won't die, or they will die 10 seconds later. I'll be running down a hallway, and all of a sudden be dead, and it says I was killed by a player I never saw.
3) Players appearing/disappearing out of nowhere. Just two days ago, I was at a friendly base, defending it from 2 or 3 attackers, who were respawning at an ams nearby. I cleared out the spawn room, and was repairing a spawn tube. My audio amp showed a red dot approaching the courtyard outside. That red dot then got stuck for a few seconds, then it reappeared right next to me, as I got mowed down by an MCG. The spawn room doors never opened.
4) I get the "computer has stopped receiving packets" message while loading the game, every time now. But my packetloss in-game is never over 1%.
5) Using equipment terminals/lockers/inventory freezes, or doesn't respond for several seconds.
6) Repairing armor/health freezes at some point, then a few seconds later shoots up to 100%.
7) Vehicles stop randomly, then a few seconds later appear in a different place.

Having my outfit on teamspeak, I've found that we all seem to have these weird lag spikes at exactly the same time, every time. So, it is not my computer or connection. This is most definitely a server-side issue. What are your experiences over the last week?

Mognoc
2004-01-09, 01:39 PM
Nope, its no problem of mine, but I play on Werner and maybe we don't have these problems.

Veteran
2004-01-09, 01:41 PM
HAHA. This is funny. I was playing today, and my stamina would go from about 20 to zero in a hearbeat.

What's up!? I didn't report it because I thought I would be attacked by (expletive deleted) gimps. I'm happy that someone else had the testicles to report it.

So really... What's up???

Acaila
2004-01-09, 01:45 PM
For some reason it takes me like 8 seconds to bail from an aircraft. Incidently it seems to be happening to alot of other people and I am getting alot more agile kills from dog fighting. No bailing for you, pussy!

BadAsh
2004-01-09, 01:55 PM
I've noticed those as well... I"d also like to add 2 that I get frequently:

1. After firing my Phoenix my weapon won't reload so I have to hit reload several times and then suddenly it becomes "unstuck".

2. Walking up to a base door and having it NOT open for a few seconds. This kind of ruins your mad dash for cover and has gotten me killed by aircraft a few more times than I should have died.

Mudflap
2004-01-09, 02:01 PM
Yeah, I think almost everyone has seen this. I was healing someone, and suddenly the bar stopped moving. The whole time there's a battle raging on the other side of the base wall. I stop healing the guy after about 10 seconds of no response from the bar, and about five seconds later, he's at full health. I've also seen the "You have a network issue" type box blink up a few times.

Common
2004-01-09, 02:01 PM
Every one of those things is happening to me as well. I'll spot a person in a base hallway, start firing at them, all of a sudden I hear one shot and I'm dead and the player isn't even around me. This is a different beast then lag. I have a middle of the road comp, and I'm used to playing with lag - and this ain't lag (at least not on my end). Also, implants have a 3 or so second delay in switching on once activated. This all seems to have taken place since the patch to remove the holiday decorations - it's extremely annoying.

Manitou
2004-01-09, 02:04 PM
Whew! I thought I had ganked my settings or something! I was experiencing the same kind of weird stuff last night. Odd deaths, doors hanging up, weapons acting funny - all kinds of wacked things going on.

I am Emerald, by the way.

SecondRaven
2004-01-09, 02:13 PM
Hmm sounds like all you have lageritis, Dr. SecondRaven recomends a healthy new 512mb DDR RAM chip and a call me in the morning :)

Liquidtide
2004-01-09, 02:18 PM
1, 3, 4, 5, 7

The other day I watched a Magmower drive by me and then 2 seconds later it told me I was run over and killed by said Mag.

here's a new one too

1) Back door appears closed but I'll be getting hit by bullets from someone topside. I think the bug is that the door is actually open but isn't appearing open to me. Not unti I run up the stairs do I see dozens of enemies outside. That kinda sucks because with my thumper I rely on starting to shoot when I see the door open and all of a sudden I see a VS or TR comming right for my face. No Hope.

~Tide

Tssha
2004-01-09, 02:18 PM
You know, I haven't signed on since the decorations were removed, and I've had a few of those problems as well. Maybe it's a server problem, or a code problem.

Then again, they didn't modify the code at all over christmas.

Liquidtide
2004-01-09, 02:20 PM
Sorry for the double post but it's two ideas.

This has nothing to do with lag, I, as well as most players on here, pull a constant 20fps on these battles when this is happening. It's not client side it's deffinetly server side based. Also don't say things like, well maybe it was someone else you didn't see on your radar. Most all of us here have been playing 3-6 months + don't think we are n00bs.

Respectfully,

~Tide

Manitou
2004-01-09, 02:23 PM
Hmm sounds like all you have lageritis, Dr. SecondRaven recomends a healthy new 512mb DDR RAM chip and a call me in the morning :)--
P4 1.9ghtz
1gig ram
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Cable connection
--
Got a second opinion, Dr.?

Cryptica
2004-01-09, 02:28 PM
I got a second opinion! Get 2 gigs! You can always use more RAM, lol.

Manitou
2004-01-09, 02:29 PM
I got a second opinion! Get 2 gigs! You can always use more RAM, lol.
:rolleyes:

SecondRaven
2004-01-09, 02:30 PM
Hhm the 1.9 isnt killing you but it could be better..i think a 2.6ghz and up is what cuts it for PS

Liquidtide
2004-01-09, 02:31 PM
Ok enough about the system specs...

"Now back to our regularly schedualed topic!"

SecondRaven
2004-01-09, 02:34 PM
the specs where on the lag topic.....

Common
2004-01-09, 02:46 PM
Sure, better specs mean better play experience, but this has nothing to do with that. I play with lag all the time, and I'm quite used to it. But, this stuff is happening to me in bases that only have a few people at it, in huge zergs, alone at the sanc, it doesn't matter where I am, or what is going on around me. I know what lag feels like, and this seems more like a server update issue where I'm sending off info to the server, but there is a delay in info getting back to me, so what is on my screen isn't what the server is saying is there. Obviously it isn't happening to everyone, but it is happening to enough people with different enough specs for me to believe that it is a server side issue.

Madcow
2004-01-09, 02:52 PM
Hhm the 1.9 isnt killing you but it could be better..i think a 2.6ghz and up is what cuts it for PS

2.6 is overkill for the game, I have 2.4 and that's overkill. Heck, I have only 512 meg of RAM and a 9600xt and rarely have lag since I installed the video card and pull FPS over 20 even in the big fights.

I've had an issue reloading in MAXs lately (I hit 'R' when I have an opportunity only to turn a corner and realize my magazine is empty), I sometimes have to hit it 5-6 times to actually reload. The disappearing people thing has been happening as well, it happened to me and immediately after I saw an outfit tell from somebody pissed off that a cloaker shot them with a deci so I know it wasn't just me. The odd thing with the disappearing people is that they do still exist. I was in a Comet MAX in a tower and I saw people come in right before everything blinked out of existence. I fired down the stairs and the plasma started burning the people as they were running around, it looked exactly like the graphic for when you hit a cloaker with plasma. So the server still is recognizing that the people are there for you, it just isn't actually populating the graphics for you.

SecondRaven
2004-01-09, 02:56 PM
yes maybe at low settings but i like to see smooth objects and people...i like to have firefights look like a firefight and not flush lines streaking by me.

Mudflap
2004-01-09, 03:28 PM
Fine:

P4-2.8
1GB Corsair PC3200
WD Raptor Drive
GeForce4 Ti4600

I can run any game at 1600x1200 without lag(except PS). This isn't a system lag issue. I'll still see people running around, see everything happening as it's happening, but certain individual things get stuck. I think it has something to do with packetloss, but I can't be certain. Someone mentioned earlier that they were experiencing these issues on many different online games, although I haven't noticed it. This has been occuring for about a week for me....just a little before the removal of holiday decorations, so I don't think it's a patch issue. And I'm a network admin for a living, so my system has no scumware on it whatsoever and is running at peak performance.

infinite loop
2004-01-09, 03:30 PM
This is good feedback, now if we can just find a way to get SOE to hear us, maybe we'll see some action taken. Hamma? Got any contacts that we could hit up? That would be sweet.

I want to re-emphasize that this is NOT lag. I have a pretty damned good system, and I've been playing for months, and have never experienced this before.

I also want to point out that it has been happening since last friday or saturday, which was before the most recent patch. So I don't think it's a recent code change causing the problem.

Manitou
2004-01-09, 03:34 PM
Agreed, Loop. I started noticing the odd happenings within the last week or so. I also think it is some kind of weird packet loss, because that is what it seems to resemble: short bursts of information loss to the clients (us).

Neon Apocalypse
2004-01-09, 03:43 PM
like 2 weeks ago i noticed that when i killed people i would sometimes overkill them, i wouldnt know if theyd be dead i would just keep shooting until their body hit the ground, but i havent played much recentally so i dunno whats going on

a pink punk
2004-01-09, 03:43 PM
yes, i have noticed some of this. all be shoting an enemy, unload a clip into him, then he stops and stands still. while am reloading, he/she dies. also, doors take 1-8 secs to open. what the hell is going on? i think all go post this in the OF.

EDIT: oh, and its not my system specs:
2.6 ghz P4
1 gig DDR ram.
ATi radeon 9800
... and a PCI sound card that was from the case we used for my comp.

MuNsTeR
2004-01-09, 03:44 PM
i have

Neon Apocalypse
2004-01-09, 03:45 PM
ah last time i played was 2 night ago for like 20 min, i was in an NC base, i saw one red dot, then all of a sudden like 10 other red dots came up so i was like wtf

JakeLogan
2004-01-09, 03:51 PM
Its happend to me in the last couple battles on Amerish VS and TR going at it and then boom VS disappear then they reappear hell I managed to run into the gen room and completely repair it before I was killed by the 4 VS MAXS in the room :D
EDIT: I think the servers might need a reboot not sure if its been done lately

infinite loop
2004-01-09, 04:07 PM
Not sure if this actually means it's going to be worked on, but I'm keepin my fingers crossed. This was just posted on a thread I replied to on the OF:

Hello,
This issue is being looked into and we will close the topic for the time being. We will let you know if any further information is needed to help with this situation.

Regards,
Joel S.
Sony Online Entertainment

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Hamma
2004-01-09, 04:11 PM
Personally I think its some kind of net congestion, they havent really made any changes recently. Does it happen west coast too?

infinite loop
2004-01-09, 04:44 PM
It's happening for me on Markov. I am located in Dallas however. But my outfit mates are either from the central area or the west coast.

WritheNC
2004-01-09, 09:01 PM
All I know is that in the sanctuary, when I take an item from the eq terminal, and hold it and press the destroy button, I sit there and wait 6 seconds for it to actually happen.

Its a real killer, although partially my connection may be to blame since I get booted off TS2 when the lag gets really bad.

Neon Apocalypse
2004-01-09, 09:08 PM
i played a bit tonight and it seemed laggier than usual but nothing other than that

Jaged
2004-01-10, 12:07 AM
A couple of times last night, my bolt driver took a good 10 seconds to reaload. That sucks when you need to get the second shot in asap to make the kill.

Sentrosi
2004-01-10, 12:47 AM
I was hoping it was me, but it looks like everyone has this.

aiwest420
2004-01-10, 04:07 AM
getting alot of odd delays, for about a week now.

=/

TeraHertz
2004-01-10, 06:03 AM
I experianced all those problems since about newyear Then I got another 512 of 2700 DDR and went "AHA FOK YOU LAGG!" And the lag said "AHAHA YOU MORON YOU WASTED �50!"

Still getting the lag and stuff :(

hazzer2007
2004-01-10, 07:36 AM
I have lag all the time. Doors wont open until 5 s later, it takes 2-3 s to pick up my rifle, I cant even enter vehicles but I can walk away, delays in reloading, people disappear and reappear 10m away from where they disappeared, 5 s lag on terminals, sometimes I just freeze for 5-10 s but the battle carries on around me and I end up dieing, I get lag if I have a fight with someone with a big chain gun and I end up dieing. When I hack, the timer freezes then continues 10 s later with the time bar moved those 10 s. But all this has happened since I got the game, many people say it's because of my ram size (256) but this also happens where there is no one around me for 200m. I even get the popup saying that �my computer has lost the server and is trying to reconnect to it, you may experience network lag when connected� but it never does, it come up with �you have left the world�, it does it when I go through warpgates, and if I am in a aircraft, when I log back on, I just fall out of the sky and die.

hazzer2007
2004-01-10, 07:49 AM
I see bullets going through walls, a reaver killed me when I was inside a tower, the door was shut and it fired against the outside wall and it killed me, a clocked guy killed me with a pistil, I was on full health and amour in a reinforced exo-suit and it only took 5-6 shots to kill me I also die for no reason, it comes up on the chat with my name and the skull and bones pic, no who killed me or how. I also see dead people just standing there, not lying on the ground.

Fenrys
2004-01-10, 08:05 AM
I've had to hit reload over 20x to get it to work.

I've unloaded a full Sweeper clip at point blank range into the back of an unmoving nme in Agile and they've lived.

I've gone from <30 stam to 100 instantly.

I've been killed by people tht never appeared on my screen.

I've had 101 health w/o the benefit of population or healing mod bonuses.

Wearing Rexo, at full health/armor, I've died to MCG users the very instant they start shooting (in one particularly annoying incedent, after I'd hit them a dozen times to no effect).

Often I cannot enter vehicles, use terminals, or pick up items.

shadow58
2004-01-10, 08:43 AM
Think everywheres got this lag problem, I'm on Werner and I've noticed doors taking ages to open, the repair bar stopping for 10 seconds then suddenly my mags fully repaired, equipment terminals not responding immediately and the best one, shooting away at some NC with adv targetting on, watchin his health go down then it stops but im still hitting him, keep firing, then i run out of ammo, stop firing, 10 seconds later he suddenly dies.