Reaver Vs. Mosquito

[AngryDrCowHead]

hi guys, im new to PS and i wuz wondering wat are the good/bad points for both and
which is better? :confused:

[Onizuka-GTO]

Mosquitos are annoying, Reaver are Magrider fodder. :lol:

[Majik]

The mosquito has speed and the ability to use radar to reveal enemies in a base for other friendly units. Reavers have the firepower to take out targets quickly.

[Laeritides]

/Good The Skeater owns the skys. It is the best at dog fights and is good at taking out inf.

/Bad The skeater has very lil armor and gets wasted by AA Maxes and Skygaurds.

/Good The Reaver is very good at taking out tanks and other armored vehcials with its rockets. The rockets also great for taking out inf. and Maxes. The main guns are good for taking down Gals and Liberators. It has a lil more armor that lets you take cover from AA maxes in most situations.

/Bad You pretty much get killed by skeaters. You still get owned by Skyguards.

[AngryDrCowHead]

Thanx guyz,i think ill probably go for "air cavelry" cert, the mosquito sounsds cooler-- but ill probably use reaver aswell .

-- y the hell dont they hve targets in the VR driving zone? and y dont they hve moving targets in VR shootintg zone? :confused:

[Collin]

Reaver

+ Rockets against soft and hard targets
+ 2 Cannons against hard targets (MAX)
+ good Armor
+ Afterburner


- gets ditected by wall turrets
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Mossi

+ Recioless 12mm against soft Targets
+ Radar (inf killer)
+ very fast and agil
+ Afterburner

- low armor
- useless against soft armour
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What is better?

Answer: The Mossreaver

It all depends what u like to do. If u like to go with the main zerg in huge battles the Mossi is not useless but the Reaver is far more effective. Its "rocketspam" does not require the targeting which u need in a Mossi. The main Problem with the resupply is been solved after the balance patch.

The Mossi is a MUST for spec ops. U can go everywhere u want and the only enemy to fear is another Mossi. Behind enemy lines there will be no AA. U can drop on an enemy base and do u re evil work.

I would say:

Bad mossi Pilot vs. av. Reaver Pilot = mossi wins
Bad mossi Pilot vs. 2 av. Reaver Pilots = Runs or looses
Good mossi Pilot va. 2 - 3 Reaver Pilots = 3 Kills for the Mossi

[Veteran]

Air Cavalry owns but watch out for the mighty Skyguard, Van's 20mm cannon, Bursters, Starfire MAXs and other Air Cavalry.

[EVILoHOMER]

ok! reaver vs a mos the mos will win cus its faster and a better cannon! the reavers missles r too slow but gd for air to ground! the mos is more air to air! overall u own with a reaver as easier to take out troops with them missles! but the mos looks better if ur worried bout what anyone thinks of u! or just wanna go cruisin and pick up some chicks! but u cant cus only 1 seater so shove her in the engine

[EVILoHOMER]

all the vehicals suck apart from the mag anyways

[Majik]

all the vehicals suck apart from the mag anyways

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Peacemaker]

Its not hard to shoot down a mossy with a reaver. Just stop in mid air and turn. Except for when he uses purners ull out turn him. the 20mms will make qquick work of him. Or u can do it the mans way but thats alot harder.

[Retroactive]

i dont know why they dont have targets in driving, but the shooting zone has some moving infantry.

[Acaila]

Reaver > Skeeter by a long shot for anything resembling combat.

Reaver causes a shit load more DpS from the 20mm than a Skeeter does from the 12mm. Reaver has twice the armour. Skeeter is slightly faster and slightly more manuverable, slightly. Manuverability means precisely fuck all in A2A, a Reaver gets hit from behind by a Skeeter, it just slows down and turrets and then ruins the Skeeter's shit. A Skeeter cannot stand up to a Reaver unless the Reaver has already sustained 30%+ damage and it hits it from behind, you still have to hit all your shots or hope the Reaver pilot couldn't hit a stationary loadstar. In face to face combat, the Reaver will have needed to have sustained closer to 60-70% damage.

The Skeeter can kill small targets (infantry) more effectively with its' 12mm than a Reaver can with its' 20mm due to the dual fire nature of the Reaver 20mm. However, in A2A the size of the target makes this irrelevant.

I am not saying the Skeeter is a bad vehicle, it can be very effective, but if you have a tech plant and you choose a Skeeter over a Reaver to go pick a fight with other aircraft in, you will be disappointed if you come across a proficient Reaver pilot as s/he will down you twice over without needing to go and repair.

The whole Skeeter > Reaver crap is a pile of lies. Skeeter's are the battlefield vulture, they kill wounded or distracted targets and infantry on the edges. Alot of people prefer the Skeeter due to the pre Aircav days when they didn't have a Reaver aswell and can't get use to the differences in how they are used, how they handle and how the weapons work. The Reaver 20mm is more difficult to use in A2A than the 12mm because of the dual fire nature, but it is significantly more proficient at it when you get it down.

My opinion.

[Rbstr]

I say Reaver > Skeeter, this is because i rarlye am ever shot down by another air vech in my reaver unless there are more than one, or i was just running away form an AAmax/Skyguard, i have taken out countless skeeters and reavers with my reaver, and because it has more armor and rockets i can take out ground targets(though a expending all of your ammo on a tanks before it dies even when most are a direct hit sucks, yeha i said it reaver need an AV damage buff). The only time i use a skeeter is when i need to go very fast, i have to shoot down lots of planes, or i hae to be stealthy

[Veteran]

Dare I rely upon my own signature to prove this point?

Fast is fine, but accuracy is final.

The Mosquito's speed, maneuverability, and the pristine accuracy of its gun and Overflight Radar make it the prime contender in the race for Best Aircraft. Also, don't forget it's invisible to Interlink radar.

Basically, Mosquito owns Reaver.

Just my opinion. Now that you get Mosq and Reaver for four certs, does it even matter which is better?

[AngryDrCowHead]

thx guyz for the info, but where r the moving targets in VR zone??!

[Vick]

Both are good at different stuff, I am a full time pilot and use both many times every day.

I prefer the reaver for almost everything though, just so much more firepower. The skeeter is good if there are tons of AA MAXs and if your attacking a lightly defended base, so the turrets dont hit you.

I could right pages on air combat, but it is easiest if you just get aircav and try them both.

[UncleDynamite]

thx guyz for the info, but where r the moving targets in VR zone??!

Sorry, there aren't any yet. Gotta stick with the stationary ones :rolleyes:

[Fenrys]

If both piolets are skilled, a skeeter should win in a 1-on-1 dogfight.

If both piolets are unskilled, the reaver will win.




I am an unskilled piolet, but I still have fun flying. I'll use the skeeter as a transport (kinda like a 1-man Galexy) and the Reaver when I want to try and do some damage before crashing.

[Majik]

If both piolets are skilled, a skeeter should win in a 1-on-1 dogfight.

If both piolets are unskilled, the reaver will win.


Pilot != Piolet :D

[ghost018]

I disagree with what some of the people have said about the Mosquito's ability to own Reavers. This is true for pretty much anyone who is just starting to learn to fly, but if you practice your turns and speed control, Mosquitos will be no problem for you. The Reaver's got stronger machine guns and heavier armor, and if you've got a charged shield that just bends the odds in your favor ever more.

ghost

[GageCannon]

I disagree, Ghost. Skeeter pilots can practice speed control as well.

IMO, the vehicle doesn't matter. 9 times out of 10, in 1vs1 A2A the better pilot wins. I personally prefer the skeeter's speed and maneuverability for A2A, it gives you a few more options tactically, but I've downed many skeeters with the reaver.

For A2G, reaver (with nearby resupply) rocks in general. Skeeter is excellent in an "air sniper" role, though. That 12mm cannon is like a sabre to the reaver's club.

[Vick]

People who think that skeeters own skilled reavers pilots are dumb.

I dont fear skeeters at all in my reaver, they die very quickly. A good reaver pilot will kill the good skeeter pilot every time.

I get lots of AA kills in my skeeter, but that is because 95% of pilots suck ass.

[Vertago]

:( the reaver use 2 have 24 rockets per clip, and had farther range. U use 2 be able to bombard a vech term from 400m in the air (the max height of aircraft) and not get shot by AA......ahhhh those were the days :tear:

[321]

all the vehicals suck apart from the mag anyways


Not true

Vanguard > Magrider
Reaver > Magrider
Mosquito > Magrider
Prowler > Magrider

[Queensidecastle]

Reaver Vs. Mosquito? Who cares. A Liberator ownz both of them and hell, can do it at the same time

[Rbstr]

I destroy libs for most of my AA reaver kills, there like little flying coffins, i get the lib they all eject then i fly to the ground and rocket them, or i shoot one doen the lands in the middle of a cortyard and kills a fully loaded galaxy

[Kaymon]

If you're looking for use, I fly into a base battle with my reaver, taking out turrets and other hard targets. Once the battle moves inside, I switch to Mosquito and give radar to the troops inside.

[Fenrys]

Does mosquito radar make an nme infil's name pop up, or did I notice that because of the Adv. Targeting implant?

[Kaymon]

It'll do that, but they're changing that (in their oft said) "soon".

[dirtylove]

Despite being new I'll try to answer this ;p

I am Air Cav and prefer the Reaver if available over the Mosk. The reason for this is simple: When in big battles I can swing a Mosk to my ground support and let them fire away to derail it from shooting me down. So far this tactic seems to work.

The rockets used in combination with the cannon can whipe out inf. with little problem, and the same goes for most ground support. Just unleash your rockets, switch to guins and finish them off. If needed use the afterburners to bug out and reload. Turn back and frag some more ;p

Hope this helps.

[Queensidecastle]

I destroy libs for most of my AA reaver kills, there like little flying coffins, i get the lib they all eject then i fly to the ground and rocket them, or i shoot one doen the lands in the middle of a cortyard and kills a fully loaded galaxy

Most liberators are flying in bomber formation and either dont have a tailgunner or the tailgunner just sucks. Reavers are fodder for Liberators that are flying Gunship. 35mm is murder and only takes 8 seconds of sustained fire to take out a reaver. The turning radius is faster than a Reaver can strafe and a quality prepaired Lib pilot sends Reavers to the spawn room with ease. In fact a fresh lib doesnt even need to move out of the way of a full salvo of rockets if it is a standoff (not that rockets can hit a lib anyways) What I have noticed lately is that good reaver pilots just dont even try to attack libs that arent doing bombing runs anymore

[Candle]

magrider > any aircraft
sorry, but it is just true! the direct fire nature of its main gun (and the main gun being a TANK gun) means that if a mossie or reaver tries to attack, it is toast in seconds! gal's, lodes and libs just take a bit longer to kill! they can't escape by going over water, altough in heavily mountinous areas, they have a chance to escape... but normally with about 10% health... if they don't take the chance... and try to get the tank kill (why do people try?) and come round for a second pass (normally on 1/2 health) then again, htey are toast.

magrider > van > prowler
ok, we have less armour, and a weaker gun, but any decent mag crew will polish off any nme armour in short order.

the thing that helps make a good tank crew is TS. simple.
gunner "nme prowler 4 o'clock, 100m!" (very rough distance estimates)
driver "rgr, pulling right"
*meanwhile the gunner is landing hits on the prowler*
gunner "he has a bead on us, shells incomming"
*more hits on the prowler*
driver "gonna go through these trees" (exchange for hill or water)
*prowlers shells land on the trees behind*
*mag exits trees and the full barage resumes on the prowler leading to a dead prowler with minimal damage to the mag*

But that was a bit OT. IMO reaver is better despite its lack of manuverability, due to its ability to seriously annoy any other vehisule/max/infantry it wants (except mag... see above :p)

[Jagd]

Ok first of all, this thread is 99% shit talkin, 1% fact/reality/useful.

Take the Reaver whenever you can, and use a Mosquito when you can't get a Reaver. The logic is simple; the Reaver has almost twice as much armor, and has more powerful and versatile weapons. Dogfights are won by pilotting skill and not by aircraft.

Having said that, you will find that it's quite rare to see a Liberator to take down Air Cavalry. Not that it's impossible, but more than any other type of air-to-air engagement, it comes down more to the lack of skill by the Mosq or Reaver pilot than to the sheer thickness of the Lib's armor or the Lib pilot's skill. Any air cavalry pilot who attacks a Liberator and then waits for it to turn around and bring its guns to bear, should have their pilot's license revoked.

[dscytherulez]

My opinion is Reaver > Mosq.

But it is basically all opinion and preference. You gotta use what your good with, not what other people are good with.

[Queensidecastle]

Any air cavalry pilot who attacks a Liberator and then waits for it to turn around and bring its guns to bear, should have their pilot's license revoked.
Thats just the thing. You cant stop a Lib from placing you in thier sights before you can beat through its armor and once the 35mm gets on you you might as well eject. A Lib pilot that knows how to Gunship will keep you turreted. This is because turn speed > strafe speed. All things equal, there just isnt anything you can do about it because its game mechanics. The Liberator has vastly superior weaponry. Pilot skills being equal the Liberator wins everytime

[Jagd]

You can't stop a Liberator from coming to bear if you are hovering motionless like an idiot, as I said more to do with your opponent's lack of skill than any other factor. I would love to have a go at it with you Queenside, because I am curious to see how well you really can dogfight with a Liberator.

[Vick]

Liberator is best against ground targets, and bad reavers. I have it certed, and it owns, but your wrong about the dogfight stuff.

I will fight you 1vs1 reaver versus liberator and I will win every time.

[Queensidecastle]

Explain exactly how you would do that? The 35mm tears up reavers in 8 seconds but it takes namy more than that for the Reaver 20mm to take out a Lib and just forget about rocketing a Lib. You cannot outstrafe a Liberator's turreting, so explain how you would do this. If I see you, your dead because the 35mm will blow you up before you can even attempt to get over my back. If you get the jump on me, the Lib can still maneuver in time to paint the 35mm on the reaver before it can be blown up

[UncleDynamite]

You cannot outstrafe a Liberator's turreting, so explain how you would do this.

:huh:

Okay, apparently you either don't get the point or you don't know how to dogfight. Yes, you're right: I can't outstrafe a Liberator turreting. But who the hell hovers and strafes while dogfighting?! I mean, seriously, anyone who's flown a plane in PS knows that if you're facing a less nimble opponent, then take advantage of that and outmanuever him. I cannot recall a single time that a Liberator has destroyed me after months of hunting them. And if you decide to pull that "turreting" stuff while in a Liberator, then I'll just dive or pull a quick turn to get on to your 6 o'clock, and I'll just pelt you with 20mm bullets. If you move and turret so you can see me again, I'll just slip out of sight. Rinse and repeat until you explode or eject. Heck, if I have any, I'll just afterburn and get on to your 6 even faster. And as long as you hover and turret, I'll always know where you are. So if you do manage to outturret me, I'll just peel away, hide behind a ridge or something, get you confused to where I am, and then pop back out to blast you. Believe me, if you've managed to destroy air targets regularly with the Liberator, you've been extremely, extremely lucky.

[Vick]

Nice post UncleD.

To answer it in my own words: forwards down, tap AB, turn to face your 6, elevate untill I am above you.

[Queensidecastle]

Sounds like you guys have never been up against a good Lib pilot. I take out reavers and mosquitos with ease. I will be on tonight and will shoot you a tell Vick so we can go play.

EDIT: and oh yeah we arent even talking about when Libs are doing gunship with tailgunners. That is just complete ownage

[Jagd]

I will be out looking for you on Markov this afternoon, hope to get my skooling from ya. :)

[Queensidecastle]

I looked for Vick last night, didnt find him. Prolly easier to catch me on Emerald right now

[Vick]

My ingame name Vick-K, I am on for a while almost every night.

[Acaila]

A Liberator is fairly easy to hit with rockets.

[SandTrout]

Lib tailgun owns just about any Air cavalry that isn't in packs. I remember being a TG for a lib while being persued by 3 reavers and a mossie. I was able to take down the mossie and 2 reavers before we got blown up. There are tricks though.

The lib pilot must point his nose down some and use the elevate botton in order to give the TG the most vertical field of fire as possible.

Reaver is better than Mossie if you dont have to deal with wall turrets. The menuverability difference is truely negligable.

[Rbstr]

a lib with a ball gunner has never stoped me, just get up above a little and you home free, because most libs will head tward the ground when they start to get shot at

[sutserikeru]

Yeah, I tear up libbys 24/7 even with a tail gunner, if they tip the tail up, you go under them, tilt up and unload, when they tip the tail down, you strafe left/right elevate, unload. rinse and repeat. ive only gotten messed up once by a libby and thats cuz there was these 2 mossys that wouldnt take a hint, i already took out 3 of thier buddies and was gunna take the libby down before i got out numbered. To the guy who asked which is better, i say: Get Air Calvory and find out for yourself.

[Queensidecastle]

Thats because 90% of Lib pilots dont know what the fuck they are doing :cool: People Cert the Liberator to bomb, not dogfight. Meanwhile missing out on how much it actually rocks at dogfights

[Jagd]

It's just that all of us Air Cav pilots are having a damn hard time remembering a single time we were shot down by a liberator. I have shot down a few mosquitos while flying lib without a tailgunner, but every time I've done it was because the stupid mosquito was just hovering there shooting at me with his puny 12mm, and didn't even try to evade once I had come about. As you said, it doesn't take long to down a skeeter with 35mm, but it is exceedingly hard to find co-operative enemy pilots.

[Queensidecastle]

I spent some time flying a Reaver months ago. I really kind of sucked at it. I could get lots of kills with it but I would get shot down a lot and just wasnt satisfied with my performance. So I dont imagine I am all that good of a pilot. I do consider myself very good with the Liberator (as I can kill many foes and avoind getting shot down for long periods of time) but certainly not on the level of some pilots like Anakin and Maddog (sp?) So what gives? I shoot down scores of reavers and mossys. So much so that it becomes a very effective tool on the battlefied. I know that it is very unlikely that I could suck at the Reaver but be a great pilot in a Liberator so I can only assume performance is directly related to having superior weapons. When you thro a tailgunner in there and dump all the bombs and split the ammo it becomes just truly sick. So either there are an extreme number of really shitty pilots out there or the Liberator is a hell of a lot more powerfull than people realize. I am going with the latter.

So I encourage you great Reaver pilots out there to give Gunshiping a Lib a try sometime and really try at it. I would be very interested in hearing what top pilots can pull off with it

[Vick]

So either there are an extreme number of really shitty pilots out there or the Liberator is a hell of a lot more powerfull than people realize. I am going with the latter.

It's both really, liberator is very nice as a gunship, I use it alot. But I think the main thing is that 90% of reaver pilots suck. Not just suck, really suck. Most people I start to shoot at just fly in circles or afterburn to the nearest safe area.

[Anakin]

Just my opinon,
The aircraft are essentially equal, just good in different roles. If we're on the offensive, I generally like the Mosquito Better. It is far better at taking out mass numbers of ground troops than the reaver (doesnt run out of ammo as fast) and obviously doesn't have to worry about wall turrets. On Defense, however, and Especially with Dropship Benifits, I find myself leaning more towards the Reaver. The rockets are good for supressing troops as well as enemy ground vehicles and Max Units. Its far easier to 'hold down a tower' in a Reaver than a Mossie.

As for Air-Air...
Nearly a Tie. I would say the Reaver is **slightly** better air to air considering the fact that the Mosq cannot go toe to toe with it. That being said, an Adept Mosq Pilot can react to the direction of a Reaver's 'Turret' to get enough free shots from behind to take the Reaver down 99% of the time (when the Mosq gets the Jump). Best rule of thumb when dogfighting a Reaver in a Mosq, if you start taking heavy damage early in the battle, give it up and run away. A Mosq is *not* manuverable enough to completely outwit a good Reaver Pilot once he's zeroed in on you.

[Acaila]

Pfft, like he ^ knows anything. heh

[Jagd]

LOL! 32k kills, that's just sick. I wish I had that kind of time on my hands... Oh no wait, I don't. ;)