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EkatheKilla
2004-01-21, 06:14 PM
http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/032717.html

:(!

I also got my forum posting privledges revoked.

Doubt anyone cares, but yah thought I'd spread it around.

delta
2004-01-21, 06:18 PM
Well, I know DanB and he's a very good CSR, but I agree with you. That kind of sucks.

TheN00b
2004-01-21, 06:56 PM
That blows man. Sorry :( .

ORANGE
2004-01-21, 07:47 PM
Read the whole thing buddy and I agree with the way that you decided to try making your point however I think it was a crappy point to try and make. The amount of people on 7-10 trials that go around ****ing up the game for others is rather small in my experience. One thing you need to remember is that if SOE decides to let one guy slide through doing crap like that what about the people who do it on purpose. As I'm constantly told by my parents "This isn't a democracy its a dictatorship." you don't make any more choices in the game other than where you go, what your name is, what you look like, and how you act. The rest is up to them if they decide to nuke your account they can.

SecondRaven
2004-01-21, 07:51 PM
Go talk to sporkfire abou it maybe you can clear this up

Arkitan
2004-01-21, 08:02 PM
I think they should have asked you to change your name, or just changed your name. banning you was stupid, if someone is an ass to me I tell them to stop nicley before i punch them in the neck.

you just got punched in the neck without any warning.

MuNsTeR
2004-01-21, 08:11 PM
Go talk to sporkfire abou it maybe you can clear this up

SpunkJackel
2004-01-21, 08:14 PM
You made a name, maybe not meaning what it implied but knowing for sure how it would be implied. Then you were banned for it.

So you made a mistake knowing you were making a mistake and were punished for it. Ahh well justice served.

dscytherulez
2004-01-21, 09:08 PM
Well...I do think you creating that name was semi non-thoughtout. What did you think they would see it as?

As for the punishment...it was definately a bit too harsh. A renaming and warning would have been much more appropriate.

Good luck on getting your account back.

xmodum
2004-01-21, 09:13 PM
Go talk to sporkfire abou it maybe you can clear this up

EkatheKilla
2004-01-21, 09:22 PM
Now they closed the threads.... YAY! :(

Firefly
2004-01-21, 10:05 PM
CSRDanB is a good CSR???

What are you smoking? Garden weeds? That dude is nothing but a jackass, plain and simple. This guy (if its a guy) is the single most-hated CSR in Planetside. I would wager he's more hated than surgile jackhammers.

Every time I see a CSR Nazi complaint, it's CSRDanB.

I saw the screenshot, and *based strictly on what I saw* the guy just outright said "I sent you a warning." Then after the guy tried to discuss it, he got suspended. What a lovely customer service.

It strongly reeks of Nazi-ism. It's "My word is law, I abuse it, you suffer, and you better not say a word because I'm an underpaid smallminded coward with a little cock and I don't want to be made fun of because I was beat up in school and BAM NOW I HAVE THE BAN STICK!"

It reeks of loser-geekdom who has a taste of authority.

Madcow
2004-01-21, 10:16 PM
It strongly reeks of Nazi-ism.

Can we please be a little more mature and respectful than to compare this to Nazis?

worldvengence
2004-01-21, 10:54 PM
sadly it does compare to that, I have gotten ticket responses from DanB. He never helps, he gives u the standard BS line. At least some of the others make a suggestion and type their own responses, he obviouly pulls it right out of a manual, those ppl are not meant to be customer SERVICE representitives, he completely lacks people skills from what i have seen

AztecWarrior
2004-01-21, 11:04 PM
Although justified (the name broke the rules) the punishment does not fit the crime.

EkatheKilla
2004-01-21, 11:19 PM
I had a trial account and managed to get into the chat

I told him who I was he didn't believe me than I offered personal information on my account and he said If I continued sending tells I would get banned, told him it was a trial account and he went and deleted it saying the "Lead" deleted it even though Tom lockard is not replying to my emails.

I have screenshots of the chat.

Serious Utter Bullshit.

flypengy
2004-01-21, 11:25 PM
Eka, short of a lawsuit... you're not going to accomplish anything but digging your own grave.

MYcrimsonTEARS
2004-01-21, 11:26 PM
dont get mad, get even... any way you can!

321
2004-01-22, 01:42 AM
Ok you named yourself EaterofCSRs. What did you expect they would think "Not that can't mean PS CSR." Yeah right come on you knew they were going to either tell you to change your name or change it for you, delete your character, or cancel your account. Not a good idea to name yourself something like that. Not trying to be mean or any thing. What I would have done is tossed you into the air hold you there and OS that spot killing you then I would rename you to HappyIceBurg!

SporkfirePS
2004-01-22, 03:17 AM
Eka, I have been asking for days that people back off of the situation and let me handle it. Why? Because I am trying to avoid the very thing that happened to you. All this behavior is accomplishing is further tension about the issue. I find your and everybody else's insistence at being champions of free speech to be extremely irresponsible when you know that I am advocating for you right now and have advised you to back off so you can avoid fallout. Any fallout that is happening should be falling on me and me alone.

big sigh

Veteran
2004-01-22, 06:20 AM
I'd say the issue has fallen into the hands of those big enough to handle it.

Back off.

Majik
2004-01-22, 08:53 AM
Seriously, when spork says he is going to bat for someone, the last place you want to end up is between him and the person he is swinging at.

EkatheKilla
2004-01-22, 09:44 AM
Just don't get why DanB wouldn't let me talk to his lead.

I was in the chatroom and I asked to talk to his lead and he said "My lead just banned your account, so I'll be removing you from the chat" Well if your lead is there banning accounts why can't I talk to him? I sent an email out to him with no reply yet he is there with the ability to ban accounts?

I just want a reason/explanation. I STILL HAVE NOT GOTTEN ONE.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 10:08 AM
I must have missed the part where Spork said he was going to bat for you. Yeah, because had I seen that I wouldn't have even bothered replying. Instead, now that you keep pushing the issue even though a PS DEVELOPER is trying to fix the problem you started, I'm forced to say that you're being a dolt about the whole thing. Stop making things worse by taunting the guy and making accounts to keep harassing him.

However, by all rights when you ask to speak to someone's supervisor and he flat-out says no and just keeps banning you, I'd say the jerkass is afraid and knows he is in the wrong. But still- back off and let someone with clout do what they need to do.

EDIT:
SPORK I NEED A JOB, HIRE ME!

Rang
2004-01-22, 10:14 AM
I <3 spork

Eka just stop, seriously, you're an attention whore, even worse than me.

Happy lil Elf
2004-01-22, 10:36 AM
SpunkJackal-Do yourself a favor and shut up. Why? I remember hearing somewhere that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks. And while you name isn't too bad I'm sure someone could convince some CSR that ManjuiceJackal offends them. ;)


Eka-For the love of God shut up and let Spork handle it. You're probably not going get an explination that satisfies you. But if you sit down and you're quiet you might get lucky and get your account restored.

Madcow
2004-01-22, 10:47 AM
The funniest part is that EaterOfCSRs is supposedly offensive. Easy, killers.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 10:51 AM
The funniest part is that EaterOfCSRs is supposedly offensive. Easy, killers.
Can we please be a little more mature and respectful than to compare them to killers?

Arkitan
2004-01-22, 11:34 AM
easy killer is an expression, no one is comparring anyone to a killer

/me rolls eyes

Madcow
2004-01-22, 12:05 PM
easy killer is an expression, no one is comparring anyone to a killer

/me rolls eyes

He's aware of that. He wasn't aware that he was making a pathetic attempt at a joke, however.

Madcow
2004-01-22, 12:08 PM
sadly it does compare to that, I have gotten ticket responses from DanB. He never helps, he gives u the standard BS line. At least some of the others make a suggestion and type their own responses, he obviouly pulls it right out of a manual, those ppl are not meant to be customer SERVICE representitives, he completely lacks people skills from what i have seen

Congratulations, you know absolutely nothing about Nazi Germany. People would say it would be difficult to pass through all those years of schooling without actually learning just a teeny bit of history, but people would be wrong.

In no universe does bad customer service = slaughtering of millions. In no universe does lacking people skills = genocide. The word is thrown around enough, you don't have to be ignorant enough to pick up the banner and throw it around yourself.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 12:12 PM
It wasn't an attempt at humor.

PS, stop being a literal, history Nazi.

Majik
2004-01-22, 12:12 PM
Congratulations, you know absolutely nothing about Nazi Germany. People would say it would be difficult to pass through all those years of schooling without actually learning just a teeny bit of history, but people would be wrong.

In no universe does bad customer service = slaughtering of millions. In no universe does lacking people skills = genocide. The word is thrown around enough, you don't have to be ignorant enough to pick up the banner and throw it around yourself.

How about Gestapo(sp) attitude? Would that have been a better choice for him to use?

Madcow
2004-01-22, 12:14 PM
It wasn't an attempt at humor.

PS, stop being a literal, history Nazi.

Maybe you're right, it's obvious you aren't actually sure what humor is so it probably shouldn't be considered an attempt.

Hey, let's all revel in our ignorance! Woohoo!

Firefly
2004-01-22, 12:14 PM
I'm sure if we abuse the term Gestapo, the history Nazi will come down on us like the Gestapo.

"No, Majik, the Gestapo was a secret police. In no universe does banning = the arrest of people for looking at someone wrong. In no universe does taunting a CSR = arresting, murdering and charging with treason the innocent."

PS, I know what humor is. You aren't it.

Jubei
2004-01-22, 12:14 PM
hey Eka, let spork take it from here. don't make it worse for you. :( take it from a friend bro...

Madcow
2004-01-22, 12:41 PM
PS, I know what humor is. You aren't it.

Based on your track record that would make me the funniest man on earth.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 12:49 PM
Based on my track record? I'm guessing you think you know what my track record is, like you went back and looked at all my posts... stalker, anyone?

No, let's see. I don't find amusement in simpleton crap. If your sense of humor walks the line of honking in tunnels and teasing dogs with a laser pointer on the floor, then you're correct. I don't find it humorous.

Being a sarcastic cynical bastard, however, and mocking satirical comments that redirect stupidity on my target, however. That's hilarious to me. Once you gain a jaded view of the warped world we live in, when you've seen humanity at its "finest"... then come talk to me.

Madcow
2004-01-22, 01:00 PM
Based on my track record? I'm guessing you think you know what my track record is, like you went back and looked at all my posts... stalker, anyone?

No, let's see. I don't find amusement in simpleton crap. If your sense of humor walks the line of honking in tunnels and teasing dogs with a laser pointer on the floor, then you're correct. I don't find it humorous.

Being a sarcastic cynical bastard, however, and mocking satirical comments that redirect stupidity on my target, however. That's hilarious to me. Once you gain a jaded view of the warped world we live in, when you've seen humanity at its "finest"... then come talk to me.

Wow, how incredibly worldly you are. I was obviously way off base about you, you're a regular renaissance man.
The problem is redirecting stupidity on yourself (odd since I wouldn't think you'd be your own target, but to each his own), which seems to be your talent indeed. It doesn't take much effort or intelligence to be an ignorant ass, and often times people like to take the easy route. How's it working out for you?
In the meantime, thanks for the bedtime stories about the tunnels and dogs. Fascinating stuff with absolutely no relation to anything. I find little surprising about that as well, when people don't have much to say that seems to be the time they can't keep their traps shut.

Kaymon
2004-01-22, 02:16 PM
Um.. Madcow - I understood everything Firefly said, in the context he meant it. Not hard if you're smart enough to understand basic sarcasm.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 02:18 PM
Some people enjoy being the minority, Kaymon. :D

EkatheKilla
2004-01-22, 03:34 PM
All I have wanted was an explanation. That is all, and to know when I can use my account, because at the moment I have not gotten any emails from SOE other than a reply to an email I sent to spork about the situation, he said nothing other than to stop posting and let him handle it. I don't care what happens to Dan, I just want to know why I was suspended and why I couldn't talk to his lead when he had the ability to talk to him. I sent an email off and got no reply, his lead was there and banned me, why couldn't I talk to that person?

I'm not looking for attention, SOE only listens if you put it out in the public. I simply want an explanation.

I have nothing against DanB except for the fact that he wouldn't let me talk to his Lead, I was pissed off Ok? I wanted to use my account. Now I don't care about getting back my account, I just want to know why it happened. Supposedly you're supposed to get an email from SOE explaining it which I did not.

I was told I was suspended because of my character name, that could mean ANYTHING.

Spork has said nothing other than to stop posting about it, Tom has said nothing, Dan has said nothing, SOE has said nothing.

Firefly
2004-01-22, 03:38 PM
Sporkfire works for SOE. Therefore if Sporkfire says he's handling it, then SOE's official stance is "It's being handled", via the Planetside subordinate. Planetside is a subordinate branch of SOE, yes? Spork works for (or is the point-of-contact) for Planetside, yes?

That's your answer from SOE. If you're expecting the CEO of SOE to say "Yeah DanB is a pud and Tom Jones The Leader-Guy was on his potty break so he couldnt talk to you", then keep on keepin' on, roger that hooah?

Ait'al
2004-01-22, 03:57 PM
Why are they getting pissed when you fucking pay to play this game. There childish little brats if they cant stand a stupid little name mentioning a damn acronym that describes a fucking one of there jobs. Oh no whats next you cant use the admin of death or the developer from hell. What are they going ot do when another crt or admin or whatever come and play and are inspired to make a name about it. Ban the guy who jsut spent atleast 50-200 dollars to play there damn game just to kick him for something. They dont have a damn copy right on it and its something that many people have been. Who cares what teh point of hte name is. It only means something if there childish enough to act like it matters. ITs not like it cant be an apropriate name for a hacker character or anything.

There is no reason for so called profesionals running an online game for a major company to act like that. This is a game!

Just my opinion!

Arkitan
2004-01-22, 08:24 PM
Why are they getting pissed when you fucking pay to play this game. There childish little brats if they cant stand a stupid little name mentioning a damn acronym that describes a fucking one of there jobs. Oh no whats next you cant use the admin of death or the developer from hell. What are they going ot do when another crt or admin or whatever come and play and are inspired to make a name about it. Ban the guy who jsut spent atleast 50-200 dollars to play there damn game just to kick him for something. They dont have a damn copy right on it and its something that many people have been. Who cares what teh point of hte name is. It only means something if there childish enough to act like it matters. ITs not like it cant be an apropriate name for a hacker character or anything.

There is no reason for so called profesionals running an online game for a major company to act like that. This is a game!

Just my opinion!


Most of the time i dissagree with you but you hit the nail on the head this time, if they have a problem with the name they should have just told him and gave him an option not banned him, this banning with no warning stuff is crazy and I'm seeing alot more of it in MMOGs oh well im sure his account will get reinstated(sp?) but the fact of the matter is this moderator or whatever he is was out of line and overreacted. (two r's?)

too lazy to spell check.

Acaila
2004-01-23, 05:01 AM
@Eka
I think your making Sporkfire's job difficult. By all appearances he wants to get the situation concluded favourably for you. The more of your self righteous crusade you force people to publicly recognize, the more difficult it will be for him to fix the problem. A bad decision is easier to overturn and a warning (if SOE deems it necessary) can be issued to the appropriate parties in a simpler manner if noone has their pride bruised too badly in the process. Part of dealing with people in the real world is knowing when discretian is a better route to take than kicking up a huge stink, which is what you are trying to do.

Attempting to get DanB to come to you on his hands and knees, apologising profusely and offering a myriad of explanations publicly is not the right way to handle this issue. It also is not going to happen.

Working quietly with Sporkfire will get the problem resolved faster and more satisfactorily than inciting a witch hunt against the CSRs. This is irrespective of who was in the right or wrong, it is just the way some things have to be done.

The reason why Tom Lockard and DanB have said nothing to you on this issue is that there is a chance to resolve the situation without anyone publicly losing face. You are making that chance smaller and smaller the more you continue your crusade, despite the fact that someone with the resources to accomplish action (Sporkfire) has contacted you, informing you that he will handle it. He even implys in his post that he will bare the brunt of your actions by taking up your cause against the CSRs. Your continued inflammatory action is actively working against the man who is trying to help you.

So in other words, shut your fucking noise hole. Grow up and stop crying like a fucking child. You are no longer dealing with people in a playground, you are dealing with people in a real world situation. Don't be an asshole and make life difficult even for those who are trying to help you. Screaming, yelling, fighting and being an annoying, inflammatory little bitch will not help you in real life. What helps you is being rational, sensible and reasonable.

Compare your situation to that of BuzzCutPsyco and The Enclave-K. He exhausted the proper methods of dealing with the problem of getting the name change before creating a public out cry. You didn't. After your deliberate, idiotic actions which received excessive punishment, the first thing you did was start crying and hoping someone else would fix the problem for you. Well congratulations, someone is willing to try and fix the problem for you, Sporkfire. So stop continuing being a pain the ass.

Here is a couple of home truths for you. You were wrong. DanB was wrong. You were both wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right unless both people die and stop bothering the rest of us. Parading around, swing your handbag to and fro like your part of the Spanish Inquisition doesn't suddenly make you any less in the wrong.

Listen to Sporkfire, who is trying to help you incase that still hasn't got through to you.

Kiss kiss hug hug.

EkatheKilla
2004-01-23, 05:37 PM
I didn't ask for spork to help me.

I'm coming back in 3 days after ChrisL actually listened to me and gave me a no-bullshit answer.

I don't want/need spork to help me. I'm getting my account back in three days, I don't give a shit anymore.

I didn't want DanB to publicly apologize I wanted someone from SOE to send me an email telling me why I was suspended and for how long. I didn't get that, even though I'm the account owner and I want to know. I had to download the trial from fileplanet, get another CDKey and log into the chatroom, I talked to Chris and he didn't care if I wasn't on the account he told me straight up I had a 3 day suspension and I should be back in a day or two. He didn't say he couldn't talk to me, he didn't say I couldn't talk to his lead. He didn't go whining to his Boss because he can't handle a customer asking a question about his account.

Sporkfire doesn't need to help me. If I was permanately banned I would ask for some help but since my suspension is up by tonight I don't care, I actually did something with my suspension and made a website... doing what? Promoting planetside even more. Even after being suspended because a CSR feels the need to ban people rather than discuss it and or fix the problem. He was unreasonable, I was unreasonable, Victor (Spork) didn't need to get involved but he did.

I didn't want a public apology I wanted a fucking answer to a very simple question that required me to ask someone not involved to get the answer.

I'm not whining and crying about how life is unfair, I may have from the beginning but I'm not now am I? All I wanted was an explanation as to why I was banned and/or when I would have access back. DanB, Sporkfire, Tom Lockard could not answer that simple question which required looking up my account and reading that I was suspended for 3 days. ChrisL who was moderating the chat answered my question promptly and without asking any questions himself. He is a true reasonable CSR who I had a good experience with, Spork has been the same but he still didn't answer my question.

I'm getting my account back in three days, drop the subject.

btw my website is www.purgatorycreek.com/PlanetsideMedia/home.htm