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BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 11:38 AM
This is just an idea.I have know clue if there is one in the game because im kinda of new i have been playing since Novmeber. When i was watching tv I saw on the news were car bombs has been kill people over there in Iraq. Well i thought of it wouldnt it be cool if you were in a base and there were enemy tanks,ants,ams,ect.. that u could plant a bomb on them :blowup: and when they got back in there Vechile and drive of boom there toast. lets say they could be time detanoted(sry if misspelled) or remote detanoted(sry if misspelled again).Please reply back to tell me if there already in the game or what u think of havin Vehicle bombs.


Long Live :usa:

SecondRaven
2004-01-27, 11:46 AM
Its called a boomer get CE :)

hazzer2007
2004-01-27, 11:57 AM
What about one that explodes when the engine is started, not destroying the car, only damaging it, or even killing the driver so it could he hacked. An add on to CE.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 12:00 PM
thats sounds cool hazzer. how about having it were it could destory the vehicle if theres more than one like a convoy of tanks then have one were it just kills the drivers and passngers.

Queensidecastle
2004-01-27, 12:11 PM
I think you should be able to place boomers directly on vehicles that are not moving. I have yet to hear any reasonable explination as to how that would be overpowering. It would also increase the effectivness of Saboteur Infiltrators. I cant count the number of times I have snuck up on Skyguards, Enforcers, Deliverers ..etc just sitting there firing from hills and such. As soon as you put a boomer on the ground it drives off. Much better would be if you could Det Pack it. I think you should be able to Det pack MAXs as well. Too bad too sad if they allow you to sneak up on them that closely and then when they see the green smoke they cant evade the explosive radius

Majik
2004-01-27, 12:13 PM
I would rather have an actual CAR BOMB, like the Demolition Ships in AOE. Drive that puppy right into a deployed AMS hit a trigger and BOOM!!!!!!!

SandTrout
2004-01-27, 12:26 PM
They will be reimplementing the ANT bomb soon, but there wont be a manual "detonate" botton. Just stay in the car until it goes boom.

Madcow
2004-01-27, 12:43 PM
As soon as you put a boomer on the ground it drives off.

Your options are to surge and run around the vehicle dropping mines which will explode instantly (and do pretty decent damage to boot) or if they're paying less attention (Lightnings) to surround the vehicle with boomers while switching the triggers out in your inventory without detonating them. When you get good with the timing of how quickly you can switch out the inventory, you can detonate 4 boomers in about 5 seconds. You'll be counting your xp and they'll be wondering how they took so much damage so fast.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 01:08 PM
these are good ideas. how about u caan get a cert for a car bomb and when u drive it to an enemys base or tower and the car bomb has an abililty to look like an enemys ant colors so they dont know what hit them.they could only use it like every 15-20 mintues so it wouldnt be used all the time by car bombers. but the problem is would the driver get killed with the car bomb or would he try to make a run for it and how many certs would it cost ?

ZjinPS
2004-01-27, 01:10 PM
While we are thinking in poor taste..

Why not add a suit of armor that has no weapon slots but instead is loaded with 100 pounds of high explosives. You surge into a spawn room and detonate it killing your self and everyone around you.

Thats what most people do anyway. Atleast with this new Palistine Armor you can actually kill someone before you get mowed over by a bunch of respawns with supressors.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 01:17 PM
hey zjinPS its not bad taste to think of somthing remeber its an idea . any way that 100 pound suicide bomber armor is not a bad idea if you feel like killing yourself to kill many others. it would be a quick way to clear a spwan room.

BlakLizard
2004-01-27, 02:21 PM
Having magnetic boomers or mines that u could stick on vehicles and MAX's would be good. Or something like the plasma grenades in Halo that stick to people and vehicles when u throw them.

Spee
2004-01-27, 02:39 PM
This thread sucks.

Fenrys
2004-01-27, 03:49 PM
If we get car bombs, I'll start a new outfit - Escabar Industries.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 05:03 PM
Spee if it sucks than why reply? :confused:

Incompetent
2004-01-27, 05:14 PM
This thread sucks.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-27, 05:27 PM
if it sucks than why reply? :confused:


Like i said why reply if thats what u think? :confused:

Spee
2004-01-27, 05:29 PM
Yay! I get to spell things out for people! :rolleyes:



This idea is completely, and utterly tasteless. How about we throw in 2 giant towers in the middle of the continent, that, when we fly a galaxy into them, they get destroyed, and, then we can throw in some penalty to the defending empire because they suck!

Aen
2004-01-27, 05:36 PM
Its called a boomer get CE :)
Thats not what he means, smart ass.

Aen
2004-01-27, 05:41 PM
This idea is completely, and utterly tasteless. How about we throw in 2 giant towers in the middle of the continent, that, when we fly a galaxy into them, they get destroyed, and, then we can throw in some penalty to the defending empire because they suck!
I agree with the tastelessness of the way he came about the idea. However, the idea is good IMO. It could be like a tweaked boomer, in the fact that you don't actually have to sit around and wait for the driver to come back to the vehicle. Make it to where this type of boomer can only be placed on vehicles, and detonated when the vehicle is in operation. It wouldn't be overpowered, and would probably never get used. If it did, it's the peoples own damn fault for not looking after their vehicles.

Jagd
2004-01-27, 06:59 PM
To tell you it sucks.

SecondRaven
2004-01-27, 07:31 PM
I wasnt being a smart ass Aen so dont get all bent out of shape :) oh and nice 2x post there buddy

ZjinPS
2004-01-27, 10:04 PM
hey zjinPS its not bad taste to think of somthing remeber its an idea . any way that 100 pound suicide bomber armor is not a bad idea if you feel like killing yourself to kill many others. it would be a quick way to clear a spwan room.

Spee is right. My initial reply was full on sarcasm. If you really don't think this thread is poor form then I'm sure you would like to see a larged fenced in area in each empires sanctuary. We can call them Auschwitz, Sobibor and Dachau.

If my sarcasmism isn't even more apparent to you then you apparently are either :

a) a young and naive person
b) very insensitive and lacking any social skills.

I'd wager option A. That's not a bad thing, we were all young and naive.

You see a car bomb explode on CNN and kill a handful of American soldiers and think 'Wow that would be a cool addition to PS' Thats shameful and disrespectful.

I'm through with this thread as I'd rather not see it on the first page of the forum any longer.

EDIT: If you don't know what Auschwitz, Sobibor and Dachau were then my assumption of you is more than solidified.

UncleDynamite
2004-01-27, 10:15 PM
You see a car bomb explode on CNN and kill a handful of American soldiers and think 'Wow that would be a cool addition to PS' Thats shameful and disrespectful.

My thoughts exactly.

Fenrys
2004-01-27, 11:17 PM
If you see a B-17 on the History channel laying waste to a German city and think "Gee that would be a cool addition to PS" . . .

Oh, wait, we have those already. OK, lets try a different one.

If you see American tanks rolling through Iraq and shooting people and think, "Gee..."

Wait, we have those too.

One last try.

If you see someone on TV with a pistol shoot someone else and think . . .

Hmm.

Tell me again how its poor taste?

Spee
2004-01-27, 11:30 PM
Because, Hm, the obvious ties to terrorism and IED's?


Its in bad taste for the same reason I illustrated in ym tower example.

Kikinchikin
2004-01-28, 01:55 AM
game discussion people.

topic is bombs that can be placed on cars. Discuss or let it die.

Dharkbayne
2004-01-28, 02:41 AM
suicide bombing is different from tanks/planes, suicide bombs are cowardly, and used to injure CIVILIANS.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-28, 10:12 AM
lisen i did not mean to be distrepectful to the us soldiers over there in Iraq fighting for a cause to stop terrorism. I just had thought if there was a cert were u could putt a bomb on a car or not and if there wasnt would u guys the people think of that to be an addition to the game.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-01-28, 10:16 AM
Sorry i forgot to put abreveation pionts in U.S. Soldiers

Kikinchikin
2004-01-28, 11:53 AM
I personally like the idea on the whole. When I went through my infiltrator phase, I sure did like laying heavy mines are parked vehicles and watching em go boom. I think PS would be great if it had mines like the ones in James Bond- Goldeneye for the N64. Remote mines, timed mines and we already have proxy mines. But mines you could throw even on infantry would be sweet.

Majik
2004-01-28, 12:15 PM
If my sarcasmism isn't even more apparent to you then you apparently are either :

a) a young and naive person
b) very insensitive and lacking any social skills.


If those are my only choices I take B.
And if the devs implement 2 large bases in the center of a continent and tell me I can take them out by crashing into them with a galaxy, guess what my next cert is.
Frankly I am sick and tired of people trying to make eveything politically correct. Leave your RL country and religion beliefs at the warpgate, cause I will blow the other empires up with any means supplied to me while I play this GAME.<<<note the last word it's the important one

Dharkbayne
2004-01-28, 04:24 PM
Sorry i forgot to put abreveation pionts in U.S. Soldiers


EDIT BUTTON.

Fenrys
2004-01-28, 05:40 PM
suicide bombing is different from tanks/planes, suicide bombs are cowardly, and used to injure CIVILIANS.



Thousands of B-17's filled with millions of incendiary bombs raised German cities to the ground, killing just about every civilian in them.

Before the white man hunted Native Americans to near extiction, they would mow them down in droves using grapeshot fired from cannons. Against a guy with a spear and maybe a bow, is this not cowardly?

In war, people die. It would seem the only time you take offense to it is when its your own people dieing. I'm not condoning RL bombings, but generals have been using suicide troops for 1,000's of years, and the practice is described in detail in Sun Tsu's The Art of War (making it literaly, "The oldest trick in the book." since TAoW is the oldest military treatise in existance). The idea of a suicide bomber is a tool, and like all tools it can be used for good or or evil.
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SandTrout
2004-01-28, 06:04 PM
The essence of a suisside soldier is that they have no fear of death b/c they are going to die regardless. This lack of fear lets them take risks that a normal soldier would consider compleatly insane. On the counter, this lack of causion means that reletively few suiside bombers will reach their targets on a battlefield(Most kamakazis were shot down before reaching their target). This does not apply, however, to attacking civilians who are not actively seeking to kill a target as soldiers are.

From a purely intelectual veiwpoint, the suiside bombings in Isreal and the 9/11 attacks on the U.S. have a higher Kill-to-death ratio than raids by gunmen. Even if the planes in 9/11 had been shot down before reaching their targets, there would still have been many more passenger deaths than terrorist deaths.

Again, this is a purely intelectual view and does not condone the use of suiside soldiers.

Even though suiside soldier may be effecive IRL, there would be no difference in Planetside other than the power of the blast b/c the player respawns soon after the avatar is killed. If you had only one life, would you go rushing into the pounder spam down a tower hallway?

worldvengence
2004-01-28, 06:45 PM
Trying to get back on track: I would like to see a like boomer or Mine that was a jammer....have a larger radius than the grenade....also it would be nice if there was a suicide button, for those times i get stuck in a hole in ishundar with no way except to recall and redrop which is annoying (because the sides of the hole are too steep to walk out of)

SandTrout
2004-01-28, 09:17 PM
They need a suiside botton with a 5-second delay because it's just annoying to have to recall an drop (especialy if the continent is locked.)