Do you prefer solo?

[Gunslanger]

Do you solo or prefer squads? if you do solo, why?

[Liquidtide]

Being Co-Leader of my outfit I often have to be squaded up in the platoon so I can give orders, I don't fight as much as I used to, unless I have too. Most of my time is spent looking at the map and driving my AMS around.

[Warborn]

I prefer solo, because as a sniper I have much more success when I don't need to worry about other people. Only things that matters is myself, and whoever is on the other end of the barrel.

[Dharkbayne]

Same, as a stealther, damn squad leaders "OK, EVERYONE STORM THE BACK DOOR" "I'm a stealther, I don't have any armor, I can't "storm" things"

You have been removed from the squad.

[Gunslanger]

well, my outfit's highest CR is 3 i think. i don't do many outfit squads unless certain people are in them. and i don't do pickup groups. why? because i have yet to see any tactics in a squad. its more of me sharing my kill exp with the support classes/slackers. and its more for the SL to get more CRXP. i can get better xp solo...

i'd like to see some REAL teamwork in squads. some tactical teamwork. oh well.

[Madcow]

Squads (and especially platoons) only really seem to benefit the people soaking up CEP from them. My BEP shrivels up when I'm sharing the xp with so many people and getting so little extra BEP in return. Sure, when I'm at 20 I won't really care but for now it's a waste.

[Warborn]

Same, as a stealther, damn squad leaders "OK, EVERYONE STORM THE BACK DOOR" "I'm a stealther, I don't have any armor, I can't "storm" things"

You have been removed from the squad.

Also, don't take this the wrong way, but aren't you the same guy who used to be a big spamming *** about half a year ago or so?

[Seer]

Warborn--not one to mince words.

I prefer to solo, but that's mostly because I have trouble finding a squad or even an outfit that could coordinate their way out of a paper bag.

[Warborn]

Warborn--not one to mince words.

I meant it in a good way. He's obviously not anymore, but I thought I remembered a guy with his handle who used to be an annoying little brat. Hell, if it was him he's certainly got my respect. He seems to have unscrewed himself quite well.

[Jagd]

Usually when I take the time to get a squad together it ends up being a waste of time and effort. There are a few people I play regularly with who are good because they are competent and don't need a babysitter, but I get the feeling I do a hell of a lot more damage to the enemy when soloing. Unfortunately I am getting close to BR20 and am almost at CR3 so I am trying to work on CEP again but man it sure is frustrating when 3 out of 4 times I get a squad going nobody pays any attention to me unless I am getting a Galaxy or a Deliverer to transport their asses around.

[Dharkbayne]

Yeah, that was me, I was a tard then , was new to using forums

[BIGTROJANMAN]

i run my outfit i useuly form a squad tell them the battle plan and stay at the sanc. and try to get more members in my outfit and then Hart in to battle get a deliver and move the squad around but i prefer solo because u dont have to worry about giving the orders,finding to attack next for 9 other people. you just do what u want.

[Gunslanger]

exactly. when your SL, alot of the time, people don't listen. when your in a squad, people don't listen to the SL and or the SL is and idiot. people soak up your BEP.

being in squad is fun if your squadded with friends. other than that...

[Vis Armata]

Squadding is the only way to go, in my opinion. It's a completely different game when you can pull together a tactical squad or platoon(s). Squads look out for each other, provide all the support and transportation, and generally kick ass.

[Rbstr]

Squading is much better imo

for Vis's reasons

[gonnagetyou]

I personally prefer soloing, but I will squad occassionally with outfit guys I know well and get along with.

The reason I prefer soloing is because I typically play support classes such as CE or AA MAX and I also participate in defending key facilities from ghost hackers and gen killers. This makes me unavailable for the zergs or assaults, which is exactly where most CRs want to be. Many TR and NC have fallen in my ambushes on Markov because they thought some base in the rear wasn't being defended.

Soloing gives me a lot of flexability to be were I'm most needed and apply my own specific skills. I'm BR20 now so BEP doesn't mean anything.

[MilitantB0B]

I normally squad, but after hearing yall talk, I think I'm gonna start soloing (unless my outfit needs me).

One question: What is the average XP you get per non MAX kill. (As a cloaker I don't get many MAX kills, unless they stand still ong enough to let me go nuts with my boomers)

[Madcow]

I normally squad, but after hearing yall talk, I think I'm gonna start soloing (unless my outfit needs me).

One question: What is the average XP you get per non MAX kill. (As a cloaker I don't get many MAX kills, unless they stand still ong enough to let me go nuts with my boomers)

As a cloaker it's probably 250-300 average per kill. Drop more mines for some more MAX kills, I'll get 2-3 a night without ever confronting a MAX head on.

[Fenrys]

They should give true bonus xp for being in a squad.

Squad Size = [], % beb from kills = (), % Bonus = {}

[1] (100) {0}
[2] (75) {25}
[3] (57) {24}
[4] (48) {23}
[5] (42) {22}
[6] (38) {21}
[7] (34) {20}
[8] (32) {19}
[9] (29) {18}
[10] (27) {17}


So with a 10 person squad, if any of those 10 guys got a kill worth 100bep, then everyone in the squad would get 27bep.

Across platoon xp bonuses could be tweaked sepratly to limit the volume of bonus xp generated (don't make it less than it is now though). Also, the amount of bep that your get should decrease as you get farther away from where the kill took place (to encourace teamwork).

[Madcow]

I spent 3-4 nights in platoons and got about 1/4 of a level. I spent the next night solo and in very similar situations I went the other 3/4. I swear that the platoon BEP just doesn't work even remotely correctly.

[Gunslanger]

heh, just for normal troop kills solo, i get anywhere from 100-400 BEP. if i take out a vehicle or AC, its like 230 BEP x2-i don't know why.

MAXes are anywhere from like 300-500ish.

[GreyFox]

I always get a good squad in my outfit. So I squad.

It's also more fun, you know more what's happening. I feel like I help my empire more.

I'm gonna test soloing sometime to see how much BEP I could get.

[SpunkJackel]

I solo'd and stayed away from platoons until BR19. Found out early on that most people really aren't worth squading with as they don't really know how to play the game and simply follow the zerg. Not to mention exp is better solo.

Hit BR19 and exp didn't matter so much so I found a good CR5 that leads some sweet missions and joined his platoon. Found that squading with an oganized squad is 10 times better than going solo.

[KIAsan]

Solo when my outfit is not on, squad when they are. At BR20, I don't need xp, so I solo, unless someone in my outfit needs me. I will sometimes join a merc squad, if the SL spamming sanc comes up with a unique/novel idea that looks like fun.

[Kaikou]

If you're a pilot and want quick experience, go solo. Take out a vehicle that has been driving around for awhile, you'll get 1400 experience. I shoot down reavers, kill vangaurds, etc and get about 768 experience twice from one kill. Not sure if it's a glitch and I don't really get that much, but that's what it reads in the chat... Sniping is fun solo too.

Though it's not as fun going solo, it gets you quite a bit more experience.

[Dharkbayne]

the XP gets doubled, because you get XP from each person in the vehicle, and the vehicle itself

[Renegarde]

I prefer solo, because that way I can snipe or go marauding in my lightning at will. Squadding is for when I get caught in an alamo with very few other defenders.

[Acaila]

I have a few guys who aren't outfit that I will squad with if they are online. Other than that, outfit squads or I go solo.

[noxious]

I solo on my secondary characters because the exp is horrible in squads. Say what you will, but exp is what this game is about. In addition, I find squads do little to increase teamwork. The easiest way to get things done is to get in a group of two or three with other people who know what they're doing.

And on SunFx I solo until someone sends a tell asking me to squad with them in which case I am more than happy to join them. Random invites however will get you nothing.

[Krinsath]

I only squad up with people I like from my outfit or to share BEP with a tank driver (fair is fair...).

All other times I go solo because I like advancing in rank. When I get to BR20 with any of my chars, I might start squadding for more coordination.

As it stands, the XP system for squads is ridiculous. Unless you have a madman killing machine in your squad, chances are you'll do better on your own. The only way the devs math works is if everyone in the squad is killing at an equivalent rate. This is incredibly flawed, as at any given moment, someone in your squad is dead...and god forbid you have any support troopers who aren't actively killing (since you'll probably be facing enemy squads trying to do the same thing).

Blow up a deliverer in a small squad, you get 800 or so XP...do it solo and you get more than you can for a base cap. You can fight for hours in a squad and not get as much XP as you can get in five minutes of solo action (that's not saying you WILL, but it happens quite often...far too often for their claims that the XP system works to be valid).

My solution to that imbalance to encourage squads and (by extension) teamwork would be this easy to follow formula:

1) Keep the current formula of BEP/No. in squad + bonus for squad size. Give this to everyone EXCEPT
2) The person who makes the kill, who gets the full BEP (but no bonus)

This makes it so people will *always* gain more in a squad then they would on their own. Anyone else have thoughts on that?

[MilitantB0B]

I only squad up with people I like from my outfit or to share BEP with a tank driver (fair is fair...).

All other times I go solo because I like advancing in rank. When I get to BR20 with any of my chars, I might start squadding for more coordination.

As it stands, the XP system for squads is ridiculous. Unless you have a madman killing machine in your squad, chances are you'll do better on your own. The only way the devs math works is if everyone in the squad is killing at an equivalent rate. This is incredibly flawed, as at any given moment, someone in your squad is dead...and god forbid you have any support troopers who aren't actively killing (since you'll probably be facing enemy squads trying to do the same thing).

Blow up a deliverer in a small squad, you get 800 or so XP...do it solo and you get more than you can for a base cap. You can fight for hours in a squad and not get as much XP as you can get in five minutes of solo action (that's not saying you WILL, but it happens quite often...far too often for their claims that the XP system works to be valid).

My solution to that imbalance to encourage squads and (by extension) teamwork would be this easy to follow formula:

1) Keep the current formula of BEP/No. in squad + bonus for squad size. Give this to everyone EXCEPT
2) The person who makes the kill, who gets the full BEP (but no bonus)

This makes it so people will *always* gain more in a squad then they would on their own. Anyone else have thoughts on that?
I would LOVE that. I alos think implementing that idea and maybe some variation Fenrys idea so that teamwork is encouraged instead of joining a squad and then doing your own thing.

[Lonehunter]

I am most definetly a team player. Members in our outfit are required to work as a team, if they do not want to, then Liquid Force is not right for them. If an outfit doesn't work together, what is the point? It's just another bunch of letters under your name.

[KIAsan]

Krinsath,

Good idea, I like it. I think your a little rough on the support troops (if your a max or a vehicle driver, you really do need those pesky engineering types). Also, adv meds can help a whole lot, especially if you don't have a local spawn point. Problem with most merc squads (pickup squads), is your hit or miss on what level of coordination your going to find.

XP is a goal in the game. That's the design of PS. If it wasn't for XP, you wounld'nt see all the zergs. As such, they really should change the xp system around, to make things more strategic. Blow the gens on a tech plant=xp award. Resecure the gens on your tech plant=xp award. Things like that would pull more people away from the zerg and give everyone a benefit.

Oh well, I'm dreaming again.