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Spee
2004-01-30, 06:37 PM
This is lame, but, some people have been wondering how it is possible for a decimator which does HUGE amounts of damage to a max or vehicle, can do relatively none to an infantry.


And, through the magic of lame plot-devices, Ive found an answer.


Let us assume there are two types of armor nano's - Infantyr, and vehicle/MAX. Since MAX units are mechanized, the metal on them is much heavier and made up of x atonms with y types of bonds. Now, infantry armor is supposed ot protect, while still giving mobility. So, the metal would have to be much lighter, yet able to tolerate a large amount fo force. Because of this, z atoms are used with w bonds.


Now, lets assume in the engineering of the decimator, they could create a huge explosive device, which would only hurt so much, or create something that disrupts the molecular structure. Now, let us also assume we can only have binary-state chemicals (read: AI or AV) So, the engineers, with a want to destroy VEHICLE, decided to put the compound that was much, MUCH more efficient at breaking the x molecules apart, and tearing apart the y bonds. However, this only has minimal effect on infantry armors, as the z molecules and w bonds, similar to how AV bullets cant do shit to infantry.


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ObnoxiousFrog
2004-01-30, 07:01 PM
The irony of the thread title compared to its first response is killing me.

Dharkbayne
2004-01-30, 07:38 PM
:rofl:

HawkEye
2004-01-30, 07:42 PM
:rofl:

Morrik
2004-01-30, 08:23 PM
I suggest playing the game instead of wondering how the game mechanics work. I would like to announce a word that many game makers use:

BALANCE!

Spee
2004-01-30, 08:26 PM
I suggest playing the game instead of wondering how the game mechanics work. I would like to announce a word that many game makers use:

BALANCE!


I suggest knowing who the fuck youre talking to before making assumptions.


I (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=704318&worldId=15) was (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=728478&worldId=15) just (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=665384&worldId=3) trying (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=413764&worldId=21) to make the storyline and reality work.

Morrik
2004-01-30, 08:33 PM
I suggest knowing who the fuck youre talking to before making assumptions.


I (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=704318&worldId=15) was (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=728478&worldId=15) just (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=665384&worldId=3) trying (http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=413764&worldId=21) to make the storyline and reality work.

Hmm, lets see... do I care about your stats? Not really. Did you make that point in your originally post? No. Do I know who you are? Probably not. Should I care who you are? Nope.

In all reality, I don't care about who you are. I was just making a point to the post in logical terms because that is what the treading title says.

Maybe the threading title should be altered?

If you can't take a logical post from somebody else on these forums without getting offended, I suggest not posting. That's just my opinion though.

And congratulations, you made the ignore list.

Spee
2004-01-30, 08:38 PM
Hmm, lets see... do I care about your stats? Not really. Did you make that point in your originally post? No. Do I know who you are? Probably not. Should I care who you are? Nope.

In all reality, I don't care about who you are. I was just making a point to the post in logical terms because that is what the treading title says.

Maybe the threading title should be altered?

If you can't take a logical post from somebody else on these forums without getting offended, I suggest not posting. That's just my opinion though.


The stats arent there to make my e-cock bigger. Theyre there to prove I have played the game a bit, I even deleted by BR18 character in my thirst to know what it was like on the other end of my scatMAX.

And, while I do agree with you that saying to play the game was logical, it was an assumption on your part, and one that, as most assumptions are, incorrect.

So, please, next time do not confuse me aith Ait'al.

Dharkbayne
2004-01-30, 08:50 PM
Don't worry, Spee, I think it's just "that time of the month"

Happy lil Elf
2004-01-30, 09:19 PM
And congratulations, you made the ignore list.

Get ready to add me too. The floodgates are now going to open, you poor little paragon of impotence.

I suggest playing the game instead of wondering how the game mechanics work. I would like to announce a word that many game makers use:

BALANCE!

Perhaps Spee was trying to make a semi-amusing post out of boredom (hence the [/bored]) explaining the reason a weapon that destroys armored units is no more than an annoyance to infantry. He knows why it does little to infantry, as does anyone with the level of intelligence and comprehension you seem to be sadly lacking. However he was trying to fit how it acts into the actual storyline of the game (and yes Planetside does actually have one).Hmm, lets see... do I care about your stats? Not really. Did you make that point in your originally post? No. Do I know who you are? Probably not. Should I care who you are? Nope.You're the dumbass who implied he has no idea how the game works. What's the matter? You don't like the fact that he completely destroyed anything resembling a point you had? Awww, that's too bad. In all reality, I don't care about who you are. I was just making a point to the post in logical terms because that is what the treading title says.No, actually you made an ignorant assumption in an arrogant way. Some people can get away with that. Unfortunately for you, you're not one of them. By the way what the hell is a "threading"? You mean the grooves on the side of a screw or bolt?Maybe the threading title should be altered?There's that word again. I'm not sure why you keep bring that up. Screws and bolts have nothing to do with what we're talking about which, in case you've failed to notice, has now changed to "Just How Much of a Prick is Morrik?". Oh, wait I think I see what you're trying to get across. The word you went searching through the vast emptiness of your skull for and almost found would be "thread", you dipshit.If you can't take a logical post from somebody else on these forums without getting offended, I suggest not posting. That's just my opinion though.That should probably read "If you can't take an arrogant flame from an idiot on these forums without pointing out he's an idiot, I suggest not posting." but then that wouldn't be very logical.

One uncalled for flame using baseless assumptions begets another, child. Hopefully this has taught you that.

JakeLogan
2004-01-30, 09:33 PM
:rofl: at Elf
Hey Spee I think I've killed you before :p
I can't really flame at all so I'll just laugh with the ones who can.

UncleDynamite
2004-01-30, 09:44 PM
Wow, Morrik got owned. Well, I don't know about everyone else, but Spee's ideas of a plausible explanation seems to fit the Planetside story pretty well. And hey, some fan fiction/ideas should be encouraged for those willing to write it down.

Seer
2004-01-30, 10:18 PM
I don't think your ideas are scientifically sound.

GreyFox
2004-01-30, 11:31 PM
Would be nice if it was like Red Alert, where the Tank Shells don't even damage infantry much :P


Anyways, this is a Balance Issue.

Game designers always have to find the perfect balance on Realism vs Balance, Fun vs Realism, Fun vs Balance, Believability vs Fun, etc...

Spee
2004-01-30, 11:53 PM
:rofl: at Elf
Hey Spee I think I've killed you before :p




Its not like Im GODJOEY or something, I die alllll the time :p



And thx2uelf, I suck at flaming, you flamer :p

Happy lil Elf
2004-01-31, 01:02 AM
You're still a member of IV my friend...even if you are a bastard TR turncoat :p

Spee
2004-01-31, 01:11 AM
You're still a member of IV my friend...even if you are a bastard TR turncoat :p



Indeed, I just wish that more than JC played, and the TS server were up more than once a month. :(

Happy lil Elf
2004-01-31, 01:16 AM
I'll be playing again once my new box is here and set up (assuming it ever does get here....but that's another rant) and Gerbil still plays doesn't he? Look at the IV boards for the TS info. I think there was some issues that have since been resolved.

Spee
2004-01-31, 01:19 AM
Well, fuck. Thats why.


Serves me right for never looking there. Thanks.

Acaila
2004-01-31, 04:44 AM
+5 for the flame. Shit ruining good time.

_-Gunslinger-_
2004-01-31, 06:05 AM
To us his science would still be unsound. Last time i checked we couldnt wield the same "Chemical Engineering" stick that the "people" in Planetside can.

From what I remember from my High school chem class (it was honours, unlike my english classes). There were two ways to seperate a bond. Either give the electrons something else to bond with OR to physically seperate the two attoms. Seperating atoms is currently a painsakeing proccess without useing a chemical process (Such as changing stats of matter or atting a more reacive element). You literally have to take the atmos and move them away from eachothers magnetic field. Doing this times 10 trillion, my SWAG of how many atoms are in a max, would be neih impossible. But im no Chemical Engineer.

EDIT: Forgot one but the deci prolly doesnt utilize this. If one was to apply a large enough electronic field to an atom the electrons in the highest level they will become excited and move up one layer. This could break a bond between the two atoms. However it theoretically would revert back into its old molecular structure after it "settled" down, in this process it also gives off light.

Angel_of_Death
2004-01-31, 11:26 AM
Awww, that's too bad. No, actually you made an ignorant assumption in an arrogant way.

His assumption was arrogant? I'd like to know what assumption that was.

I suggest playing the game instead of wondering how the game mechanics work. I would like to announce a word that many game makers use:

BALANCE!

Ya, all those assumptions in there are all too arrogant.

All he said was to stop wondering about dumb shit, and the only reason the devs did this was because there needs to be BALANCE. And you two, Spee and Elf, start PMSing on him like you guys also have a dick up your ass.

Acaila
2004-01-31, 03:20 PM
-2 for the above flame. Poor content, lack of originality, poor perception of the intent of the post, complete inability to reference one post to another. I give you an an internet bad boy rating of 3/10, back to kindy for you, son.

Happy lil Elf
2004-01-31, 04:21 PM
Ah, Angel. So good of you to join the conversation. Always nice to have a few from the peanut gallery show up.

Reread the quote you posted, dumbass. I said he made an ignorant assumption (Spee didn't know how that game worked) in an arrogant way (the arrogant way he presented himself). Now maybe he was just having a bad day and came across that way. Maybe his cat didn't want any of his sweet lovin' last night. Either way we'll probably never really know and hopefully that question will remain one of those great unsolved mysteries.

Let me reiterate for you since I'd hate to have you misunderstand again. The assumption was not by itself arrogant, it was simply ignorant as most assumptions usually are. The way his post was written was arrogant. GG on almost comprehending my statement though.

:thumbsup:

scarpas
2004-01-31, 06:30 PM
in real life anti tank weapons do not make a huge explosion, just a small one focused on a point, and it is much easier in real life to hit someone with a machine gun anyway.

KIAsan
2004-02-01, 07:26 PM
Let us assume there are two types of armor nano's - Infantyr, and vehicle/MAX. Since MAX units are mechanized, the metal on them is much heavier and made up of x atonms with y types of bonds. Now, infantry armor is supposed ot protect, while still giving mobility. So, the metal would have to be much lighter, yet able to tolerate a large amount fo force. Because of this, z atoms are used with w bonds.

Interesting, but how do you explain that the nano bank that I use for my armor repair device also is interchangeable with my vehicle glue gun? Seems to me, for your plot line to work, we would need two types of nano banks. I guess some aspects are hard to put into a plot line.