The Underrated Supressor

[Jabberwocky]

The Supressor has got to be one of my favorite weapons in the game. I played the NC a while ago and I perferred it even to the Gauss. The beauty of the weapon is that each shot counts, almost every shot I shoot with the Supressor is right on target. When kneeling, you barely have to compensate for the small COF bloom and are able to kill in about half a clip, even from long range.
When moving, you can run and gun with the Supressor. The small cone of fire allows you to sprint around your target running to and from cover while hitting him with almost every shot. Its rate of fire is pretty good, and its reload time is superb, but the best thing about the Supressor is its adaptability. It is awesome at long range (assuming you are not fighting a sniper) and it isn't a bad weapon at short range either. It can be used indoors and outdoors and is more flexible than many "situational weapons"

Supressor 4evar.

[Mag]

I don't see how you could take it over the Guass, Punisher maybe, but Guass? Either way, yeah it's a nice gun.

[Seer]

The suppressor has basically no cof bloom when crouched and still. It really does a number on the other guy's aim to be hit with so many consecutive shots.

[SilverLord]

Not enough damage for me.

[jedi]

The supressor is a nice gun. It's basically the Mp5 of the game but without the punch of a mp5-10A2. They need an assault rifle with the accuracy and firing rate of the supressor but a little less punch than the guass.

[Doop]

It's a good gun, you know, just a really self-explanatory gun. Good for a default weapon, but I'd take pulsar over it any day.

[Rbstr]

Yeah a gun that fires that fast and had damage close to a guas would be very over powered for a basic weapon

[LunarWarrior]

i prefer my MCG or Cycler over a suppressor any day...its just....leeter :p

[GreyFox]

Now, if armor would slow you down a little less, and weapons would slow you down depending upon which weapon you use. Maybe I'd use suppressor...

Well, well, I'm gonna give it a shot. I've tried before, and it hasn't been all I've wanted.

Too bad it doesn't actually have a silencer.

[Warborn]

It's accurate, but it has poor stopping power. Low damage means that in a face to face fight where your added accuracy doesn't make any difference you'll be the one dying.

Even then though, short controlled bursts with a MA weapon can produce a similar if not superior effect compared to the Surpressor. Given the damage difference between the two classes of weapon, I'm not really sure the Surpressor's accuracy ammounts to much. Do you really get any kills with it that you wouldn't have gotten had you been using a Gauss rifle instead? I'm not so sure.

[GreyFlcn]

Pulsar for indoors.

But outdoors (past 40m range (www.greyfalcon.net/40m.jpg)), Suppresor beats Pulsar hand down.

Time to Kill, over Range:
www.greyfalcon.net/killspeed.gif

Firepower, stealth, (lack of) bursting and accuracy.

FACT: Outdoors, Suppresor > Pulsar :huh:

[kreeten]

Pulsar for indoors.

But outdoors (past 40m range (www.greyfalcon.net/40m.jpg)), Suppresor beats Pulsar hand down.

Time to Kill, over Range:
www.greyfalcon.net/killspeed.gif

Firepower, stealth, (lack of) bursting and accuracy.

FACT: Outdoors, Suppresor > Pulsar :huh:
Nice visual aid. :groovy:

[Heavygain]

:huh: Im sorry but if you can kill more things with a suppressor than with a gauss or pualser than you have to be doing something wrong. Its range is the same as any of the medium assault weapons just with less damage. If you know how to use the gauss or w/e you can rack up kill faster, and more effeciently.

[UncleDynamite]

I used to be a huge Suppressor fan myself, and still kinda am. It's a fun weapon, no doubt. Someone called it the "Sniping Machine Gun" due to the accuracy of it. Even while moving and running, the accuracy is quite good for a second or two (enough to fire off plenty of shots). However, I found out that (as Warborn said) bursts of MA is just as, if not more than effective. Suppressor is really useful for someone who hasn't learned how to effectively burst yet. It's also useful for making someone feel ashamed for dying from a Suppressor.

[Queensidecastle]

The supressor is crap. The small clip ensures that it will continue to suck. Its already been pointed out that if you have MA then you should be using that instead. You can kill troopers with Beamers and Repeaters as well but that doesnt mean they can stack up to other weapons no are them meant to. The supressor fits its role. You spawn with it so you are not defensless and switch it out for something better ASAP

[Destroyeron]

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky]...are able to kill in about half a clip...QUOTE]


Maybe against an infil. Try fighting a reinforced with it.

[Destroyeron]

Pulsar for indoors.

But outdoors (past 40m range (www.greyfalcon.net/40m.jpg)), Suppresor beats Pulsar hand down.

Time to Kill, over Range:
www.greyfalcon.net/killspeed.gif

Firepower, stealth, (lack of) bursting and accuracy.

FACT: Outdoors, Suppresor > Pulsar :huh:

I don't beleive thats accurate.

[JakeLogan]

A little trick I picked up is if you are sniping at medium range put the first shot with the BD then whip out the suppesor and finsih him off. it works somtimes and its pretty fun.

[ChemicalHex]

Whats fun is dropping 3 people with a BD and they still don't know where you are. But getting back OT...the supressor might be really accurate, but the damage is very low, and against the new reinforced, the damage is so negligible that it's not even funny. Using a supressor as a backup with a BD or something makes more sense then just going balls to the wall with it, but if you have a BD, then you also have MA, and I'd rather have a Cycler. ;)

[JakeLogan]

Whats fun is dropping 3 people with a BD and they still don't know where you are. But getting back OT...the supressor might be really accurate, but the damage is very low, and against the new reinforced, the damage is so negligible that it's not even funny. Using a supressor as a backup with a BD or something makes more sense then just going balls to the wall with it, but if you have a BD, then you also have MA, and I'd rather have a Cycler. ;)
thats true but you can kill a guy at range faster with full accurate auto fire from a suppesor then bursting with a cycler/gauss/pulsar.

[SilverLord]

thats true but you can kill a guy at range faster with full accurate auto fire from a suppesor then bursting with a cycler/gauss/pulsar.But why not just have an overall better weapon ready so you can fight all infantry where ever you go?

[Queensidecastle]

thats true but you can kill a guy at range faster with full accurate auto fire from a suppesor then bursting with a cycler/gauss/pulsar
No you cant. The clip is way too small

[GreyFox]

When the standard gun beats an empire specific MA at something, you know there is something wrong.

Exchange the damage degration between Pulsar and Gauss I say ;)

[GreyFlcn]

I don't beleive thats accurate.

It is. www.greyfalcon.net/planetside_damage.html

Do tha math yourself if you choose to.

Pulsar just sucks THAT bad at range

[JakeLogan]

No you cant. The clip is way too small
I'm talking about after you've popped the guy with a Boltdriver round. at longer ranges I've found the "piece of crap" as some of you call it more effective at LONGER ranges
But why not just have an overall better weapon ready so you can fight all infantry where ever you go?

I only use it at LONGER ranges where bursting can take to long allowing the guy to retreat behind something and heal/repair.

[Queensidecastle]

Thats an interesting tactic. I am going to have to try that sometime and see if it works

[GreyFlcn]

Okay, I take that back.

www.greyfalcon.net/killspeed.gif

This graph assumes:
1) No bursting
2) No misses

The only Rifle that can come close to that, at range, is the Suppresor.

Which makes even more of a point that past 40m range (outdoors):
Suppresor > Pulsar

[Red October]

Supressor is a nice "little" gun. Its accurate and if you catch someone off gaurd....and hopefully hurt already, you could rack up a couple of kills...I know I've done it. But its only good when accuracy counts and the enemy doesn't expect you...otherwise your dead.

I prefer however, accuracy through numbers. When being beaten back by a huge NC zerg, there is nothing like charging into a very small confined space loaded with NC and just going absoulutely beserk with a MCG while moving in a random zig-zag circular motion. Your guarandamnteed to take a few with you and the enemy is for sure to TK a few of thier own.

[Kaymon]

For a free weapon, I think it's fine.

[Jabberwocky]

Well from the sound of it, it seems the Reinforced exo suit got a buff after I stopped playing PS. I guess that would really negate the effectiveness of the Suppressor. I always thought the Gauss was rather, for lack of a better word, annoying. It always seemed that the bullets from my Gauss went diagonally and the bullets from my Supressor were straight on. It might also be my playing style, I don't run head on into combat, but I used to love to hide behind stuff at a distance and shoot people walking by. So I guess it's just best to find the weapon that works for you.

[BunBun]

The suppressor is ok, but when I am sniping, I'd rather have a 2nd weapon ready to take down people if they manage to get close, the suppressor just doesn't cut it up close.

[Otherick]

Actualy the suppresor was the gun I made my first kill with (this is no shit) I took out a Rexo with MCG with this thing.
Well so what if hes wasnt shooting back :P Just because he was trying to destroy the spawn befor he died, it still counts. I have to say while during my gruting around this gun glowed out unlike the others. I suggest anyone take this gun no matter what thier role. It allows like pointed out to run while firing which has to be a major advantage in a fire fight. While all your enemies are crouching to fire decently, you can run circles around them with this thing

[Warborn]

The suppressor is ok, but when I am sniping, I'd rather have a 2nd weapon ready to take down people if they manage to get close, the suppressor just doesn't cut it up close.

It only takes two shots to kill infantry. I think you should really give the Bolt Driver a chance up close. I used to carry a Cycler, but after realizing how effective the Bolt Driver can be at any range, I stopped, and carry a Decimator instead. Haven't looked back.

[JakeLogan]

for some time when I had sniping (dropped it for med so I could help out my outfit) I would charge into a tower batltle with 2 BD sure I might only get 1 or 2 kills but it gives the enemy a WTF? moment.

[GreyFlcn]

Heh, I know people who love their 'Bolt Driver + Lasher' combo :P

[Warborn]

Heh, I know people who love their 'Bolt Driver + Lasher' combo :P

Bolt Driver + any heavy weapon is a winning combo. All you need to worry about is vehicles and MAXs. You are a God amongst infantry, however, due to HA being so ubiquitous in its strengths.

[GreyFlcn]

I dunno, against maxes 19 damage per lasher shot. 50 damage per bolt driver shot.

Considering the new clipsize/reload on Lasher, this might be appealing.

[Rbstr]

BD + sweeper/guass = ownage at almost all ranges

[Queensidecastle]

I just wanted to report back with my findings on long range supressor sniping:

This is VASTLY INFERRIOR to bursting with empire medium assault at all ranges against all armor types.