64mb the mininum???

[Bighoss]

is a 64 mb graphics card the bar mininum for this game otherwise it will be like DaOC all over again I had a tnt2

[Ouroboros]

That's what it was for Beta

[Sputty]

Most of the new games cooming out now are 64 MB min.

[VanuSovereignty]

o.o;

[korezero]

Damn my computer is getting out of date fast... lol

[Nightmare]

man, the title of this thread really confused me, until I actually read the post. "holy crap, they got it from 512MB to 64MB?!?!" heh, but yeah, that's the min requirement, which is why I'm gonna get a Radeon 9500 Pro. Affordability and power, boo-yah!

[Flameseeker]

My card is 32 MB. I'm doomed! Yay! I mean, darn. :(

[DarkDragon00]

Terran Elite Airborne Regiment

sorry to dissapoint you but the RADON DRIVERS are really bad go around and ask people who playes WW2 Online in a Radon and see what they say, A graphical nightmare is one.

The new Radon 9700 are said to finally overhaul their drivers so they actually can show more powerful graphics and more complicated ones 2.

Dark- Stick to GeForce4 Ti4600 128mb, you'll thank the drivers reliability.

[Nightmare]

The Radeon 9500 Pro is just a watered down verion of te 9700, so no worries there. And there's no way I'm paying fo that overpriced Ge-whatever 4600.

[Arthell]

Can get a new v.card cheap that will last for awhile. The Geforce and Radeon top-end cards would last for a while, but if your just buying it for this game its kind of overkill.

They might be lowering the v.card min requirment, anyways.

[Fire_Monkey]

...Nvidia is cheaper than Radeon. Pricewatch prices a gforce4 MX460 64MB, as 89. Radeon as 156 minimum.

[Saint]

Teh RADEON 9700 = $400, GeForce 4 Ti4600 = $200 and I am positive that the 9700 is not 200% better. They both have their weaknesses and strong points. I suggest going with Nvidia because it is the industry standard and it has good drivers. :p, Flame away you freakin nazis!


:nazi:

[OmnipotentKiwi]

MX isn't a G4... anyhow...

Chaintech G4 Ti4600 128MB: $227 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=14-145-010&depa=1)
ATI Radeon 9700 128MB: $242 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=14-102-259&depa=1)

Best bang for your buck by far though is the Ti4200 w/ 128MB RAM:
ABIT SILURO GF4 TI4200-8X 128MB: $148 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=14-123-119&depa=1)

[Duritz]

Well, Saint the numbers are wrong, but you're right. One of the cheapest I've seen a Radeon 9700 was $275 and a GeForce ti 4600s was around $140. Still a 2:1. I'm getting a 4600 next week, not cause I only don't want to waste the money, but becasue the 9700 gets too unstable when overclocked and cause ATi doesn't have the driver suppoet yet. I'm sure they will soon, but not before ps. I still would put them on equal footing because of the power+money vs stabilty+less money is one's opinion.

edit: nah, kiwi you can get 4600s cheaper than that, but i dont have time to look

[Bighoss]

who revived this anyways? I think its a few weeks old:confused:

[Duritz]

It was VS.

It stopped at the end of January before. See? look at Sputty's last then VanuSovereignty's.

[Flameseeker]

Oops, didn't catch that. Vanu, you dug up a month old thread to go 0_o. If that's not dumb I don't know what is.

[Hamma]

I've seen much older threads bumped :p

[Fire_Monkey]

*cough*The New Word Association Thread*cough*

[Bighoss]

well thats a classic now. You all need to learn to apreicate the beauty in old things:p

[MrVulcan]

ya Nightmare, i thought something along those lines.. then i saw the date of his post and got really confused... :lol: Then I decided to read it :lol: that helped me out some :p

old posts messing with my poor Vulcan mind ..... :lol:

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by Duritz
edit: nah, kiwi you can get 4600s cheaper than that, but i dont have time to look

Yeah, I know. I just use NewEgg to quote stuff. I buy everything from comp shows so the prices are about as low as they go.

[Prefect]

Of course, if all you want to do is meet the minimum requirements, you could pick up a 64MB GeForce2 for like $40.

[Nightmare]

When I said ATI was less expenive, I was comparing most exensive card vs. most epensive card (I swear, who the hell would that?) I was comparing nearly equal cards against each other, and Radeon always come out on top with the lower price. Although, I have no friggin clue what a driver is, so could someone clarify?

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by Nightmare
When I said ATI was less expenive, I was comparing most exensive card vs. most epensive card (I swear, who the hell would that?) I was comparing nearly equal cards against each other, and Radeon always come out on top with the lower price. Although, I have no friggin clue what a driver is, so could someone clarify?

Driver is the software behind the card, and is insanely important. NVidia drivers are generally better then ATI.

[Pilgrim]

Having a job...

I'm waiting for the FX.. And about a month to solidify the drivers, then it's happy go time for the me!

Currently I'm runnin a Gainward Geforce TI4400 OC'ed to the specs of a 4600 (cause you can do that with a Gainward)

If I were shopping at this momment (I'd wait 2 months for the FX to release and watch the Geforce prices drop) But I'd look a a Gainward Geforce TI4200 Gold Sample... Then look up the 4600 specs and overclock away!
Probably about $170 but better spending 20 extra bucks and having a card that won't be crap in 4 months...

[Nightmare]

AHH, I can't decide what to buy now. I origonally intended to buy the 9500 Pro, but everyone suggests the Ti4600. I looked up the specs for both cards, and the 9500 Pro won... by far, but you all seem to kiss Nvidia's ass for a reason. Why? I'm so confused!!!

[Confectrix]

GFFX has nothing but a few percentage points gain on ATI R300 (commonly known as 9700 PRO). When the R350 comes out this March, it'll blow Nvidia's POS out of the water. The new Catalyst update service from ATI is very efficent and very productive. Nvidia had one thing on ATI; drivers. With that solved; ATI is moving ahead; quite nicely.

BTW, we must remember the computer is not just its graphics parts, but the entire makeup. For example, here is my current setup:

PIV 3.06Ghz w/HT enabled
ASUS P4533-C MOBO (533Mhz sys. bus)
1024 MB RDRAM 1066 (Samsung)
200 WD HDD w/ 8mb Cache
ATI Radeon 9700 PRO 128 (It's very overclockable, despite other comments)

If I hooked up the NV30 (GFFX) on my machine....I would see minimal difference (but I sure as hell would hear it). Remeber, it's the parts which make the whole good...not the whole which makes the parts good. Everything must be up to speed with everything else, or you risk bottlenecking your system.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

If anyone is thinking about getting the Geforce FX they might want to start exploring ways to sound proof their case. LOUD!!!!!!!!! AHHH :eek:

[Confectrix]

I heard reports of it being as loud as a vacuum. Probably not credible though; I did hear, in defense of the NV30, that Gainward is making a vers. which will have ONLY 7db of noise. Not bad.

I'd take my R300 anyday.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

It seriously is as loud as a vacuum. They aren't joking at all.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030127/geforce_fx-06.html

Go there and about midway down the page you'll find audio links. Nvidia apparently is working on ways to tone down the noise but it's going to be difficult. They should just adapt some mobile liquid cooling system or something.

[NARF]

not to mention 512 min. system ram, for the beta anyway.

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Can we stop comparing finished and released cards to non-finished and release cards? That is like being in a beta, and going "dude, this game sucks compared to EQ! So buggy! I hate it!". Well yeah, they fix bugs, and then improve the thing. Same goes for Vid cards, drivers aren't finished, and they aren't necessarily done tweaking it. I mean by simply saying the next Radeon will blow the next NVidia out of the water when the next Radeon hasnt' even been tested? I mean come on. The next Radeon could end up being the biggest POS, we truly have no idea.

So now can we stop this stupid hardware war and just say that the Radeon 9700 is the best card on the market, while the Nvidia cards are the better value? If not, take it to the tech forum w/ the Rambus supporters so I don't have to bother reading it. :p

[Confectrix]

Funny how advocates of NV30 were doing the same thing concerning the R300.

...

I'm a RDR suppoter.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

The FX is basically finished. They are going to try to minimize the sound coming from the fan but it's still going to be at intolerable levels plain and simple. There is a reason it makes that much noise. It is spinning so damn fast because that card heats up to some insane levels. They need to implement a different type of cooling on their cards. Liquid seems to be a way to go for that and you don't need to listen to it sound like a vacuum when you're using it.