View Full Version : New Air Vehicle Idea
LimpBIT
2004-02-21, 09:34 PM
I know there has been some buzz about this in PS but i think we need a new air vehicle. Something like a reaver that has something like a flak cannon or lock on missles. Just an idea..... So yeah post ure opinions. :rolleyes:
Kaymon
2004-02-21, 09:40 PM
Well, Smoke hinted at empire specific aircraft coming, but he's just a tease like that.
GreyFox
2004-02-21, 10:10 PM
I would like a fast Light bomber/Anti-Air with 2 crew or something like that.
A not hovering airvehicle would be nice.
Somehow I don't think they'll give us air units that counter other air units.
lock on or flak spam air vehicles are THE WORST IDEA EVER
Rbstr
2004-02-21, 11:03 PM
Care to back up your idea killing?
Personly i thing that the skeeter is AA enough for a plane, though some kind of planes that emulate fixed wing aircraft would be cool, make the lib into one, and a new fighter thing like an A-10 or something
Destroyeron
2004-02-21, 11:17 PM
Care to back up your idea killing?
Personly i thing that the skeeter is AA enough for a plane, though some kind of planes that emulate fixed wing aircraft would be cool, make the lib into one, and a new fighter thing like an A-10 or something
Aircraft needed:
Mothership
Size: Absolutely Massize
Armour: Would take 1000 reaver missles to kill
Use: Be a really awesome sight to se crashing into a base
How to get: 6 pilots need to get seperate pieces from Dropship centers and align them, which would take 30 minutes
Alternate Use: 1.) Suiciding causing the effect of an os 2.) clearing bridges 3.) MASSIVE dropship with Warp 9
:P~
Geist
2004-02-21, 11:27 PM
Ya destroyeron, I think it should be a flying fortress.6 gunners,1driver,and then cr 5s in the back so they can plan attacks from the air. It would be good for outfit leaders.
UncleDynamite
2004-02-21, 11:28 PM
Aircraft needed:
Mothership
Size: Absolutely Massize
Armour: Would take 1000 reaver missles to kill
Use: Be a really awesome sight to se crashing into a base
How to get: 6 pilots need to get seperate pieces from Dropship centers and align them, which would take 30 minutes
Alternate Use: 1.) Suiciding causing the effect of an os 2.) clearing bridges 3.) MASSIVE dropship with Warp 9
:P~
I remember when someone was thinking about putting a 150mm+ cannon on the Galaxy, and everyone said it would be way too powerful. The Mothership, however, would make the "Super-Galaxy" look like child's play.
Geist
2004-02-21, 11:31 PM
Yes but how about there be no guns on the mothership becuase after all what if its kinda like a floating command center then there will be no need for it to get close to battle.
UncleDynamite
2004-02-21, 11:35 PM
I don't think PS needs a command center right now. I'd rather see some of the organizational tools (like a screen that shows all of the CRs and possibly where they are located in the command hierarchy) that the Devs were thinking about a long time ago.
LimpBIT
2004-02-21, 11:36 PM
But see there is a problem with only having the skeeter as the only anti air to air vehicle. See the skeeter isnt specifically designed for Air to Air combat even though it is used for stuff like that. We need to make an air vehicle that is air to air only. Skeeters are also okay for anti ground but they arnt used for that purpose to often. Something like a.....striker on an air vehicle. Strikers dont do to much damage but in masses they can be lethal. So the clips of course would have to be small and take quite a while to reload, but it would be worth it. Yes I do agree the flak cannon is a little to much but when you think about it the lock on missles for ONLY ,and i emphasis only cause if they locked on to ground to it would be a little unfair, anti air it wouldnt be that bad. Just my opinion. Keep telling me yours.
Dharkbayne
2004-02-21, 11:39 PM
4 shots a clip, can fire missles like, 1-2 ..... 3-4, so you can shoot 2 missles at once, or one at a time, they lock on, and do alot of damage to air, but hardly any to ground.
3 to kill a skeeter, 4 for a reaver, maybe, 20? for a gally? 10 for a libby
LimpBIT
2004-02-21, 11:45 PM
Yes thank you that is exactly what i want done for this new vehicle. Im hoping this will be done. Maybe if the devs at SOE get enough pressure to do this they will snap and finally make it for us. (Or we could just go over there and beat them until they do)
ZionsFire
2004-02-22, 12:54 AM
I WANT ME ONE OF THEM THAR MOTHERSHIPS TO REINACT INDEPENDENCE DAY! w00t!
Jaged
2004-02-22, 12:59 AM
I think this new air vehicle should be really small, with little armor, but extreemly fast and manuverable. Give it the physics of a fixed wing aircraft, too.
LimpBIT
2004-02-22, 11:17 PM
That mothership would be a good idea. Im sure evilpig would like it. It would have to take sometime to put together though. But it would also have to able to have a LOAD of armor. IT COULD BE LIKE A FLYING BASE. You would be able to walk around in it and stuff and get in turret gunners seats to fend off mosquitos and reavers or w/e else comes at you. :D Well i love these ideas keep them coming
Peacemaker
2004-02-22, 11:19 PM
Hahaha you guys are going to love what me and EarlyDawn aka LNS have instore.
We will be working on this all week and will include many many new air, ground, AT, and infantry weapons.
LimpBIT
2004-02-22, 11:23 PM
and when will we be finding this out. HMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!????????
LimpBIT
2004-02-23, 10:18 PM
....and i would also like to add that something almost exactly like a sparrow on it would be PERFECT.(Plus of course an extremely small caliber machine gun.)Except the missles would have to do less damage then the sparrow cause ure following them instead of being on the ground. Top speed could maybe match a skeeter or something like that. IM LOVING THESE IDEAS.
AztecWarrior
2004-02-23, 11:17 PM
I belive in three Reaver boosts for each empire. Each boost is optional- you get it as a seperate vehicle in the same cert.
Terran Republic ("Minotaur"): Replace 20mm Cannon with quad 12mm Chaingun assembly. Make each fire at its REAL rate (note how double guns fire at half rate while singles fire at normal- Basilisk guns each fire slow while the Mosquito has only one fast firing gun). More bullets = more win.
New Conglomerate ("Eagle"): Replace 20mm with double 25mm cannon (as found on the Liberator). Each fires at slower rate than the 20mm. More powerful bullets = more win. Increase armor 10%, decrease handling 10%
Vanu ("Shooting Star"): Replace Rocket pods with more powerful Lancers. Quicker rounds = win. Decrease armor 10%, increase handling 10%.
EarlyDawn
2004-02-23, 11:31 PM
Indeed. An arsenal of new gear to be posted at the end of the week.
Sneak preview: The two remaining unoccupied weapon certs filled with AT gear, including an AT AV weapon with *gasp* a new targetting system. We've also got some crazy new aircraft for you guys.
I've said too much. Peace is gonna kill me.
noodles
2004-02-24, 04:40 AM
I think that air to air would be cool but it would definatly have to be slower than the mosquito or reaver with no AB and the maybe a slower fire rate than a stryker.. otherwise it would completely dominate the air.
And maybe something like a spy plane that is incredibly fast with no weapons that has an incredable radar that can be used to show all enemy locations with a radious of the jet (with the exception of anything cloaked: cloakers, cloaked ams's, etc.)
So effectively as long as it stays in the air circling a base friendly radars will show nme positions.
SealDude
2004-02-24, 04:16 PM
I dont like the idea of an anti air plane because its shifiting the balanace away from ground vehicles. Everyone and their borther has a reaver and/or a skeeter because they are fast, manuverable, and an easy way to rack up kills. We already have a slow but powerful AT/AI flyer and a faster and nimble AI/ sortta AA flyer so if we have a full AA flyer we are going to have even less people on the ground because "Hey I can get the air attack cert and then I can own everything without having to squad up and get a gunner"
bryan25
2004-02-24, 07:15 PM
What would be cool if every empire had its own special aircraft. VS with a aircraft that fires Lancer and pulsar or lasher projectiles. TR that shoots striker locks on missles and cyclers guns. NC that shoots Pheonix missles and Guass projectiles. Yes its an insane idea but what the hell i posted it anyway.
dscytherulez
2004-02-24, 07:30 PM
New Conglomerate ("Eagle"): Replace 20mm with double 25mm cannon (as found on the Liberator). Each fires at slower rate than the 20mm. More powerful bullets = more win. Increase armor 10%, decrease handling 10%
The lib is a 35 mm cannon.
LimpBIT
2004-02-24, 09:29 PM
i like the idea of empire specific air vehicles more than anything. We need WAY more empire specific vehicles. And maybe some more common pool weapons and 1 more empire specific weapon for each empire. Just a thought.
UncleDynamite
2004-02-24, 10:17 PM
How about this:
Raven
Weapons: Camera
Speed: A little slower than a Mosquito.
Armor: A little less than a Mosquito.
The Raven takes photos of areas directly beneath the aircraft and transmits them directly to CR5s (and maybe CR4s). The camera, however, is limited to only a few photos per minute. The higher the Raven flies, the more territory that is photographed. Resolution will suffer, however, so details such as individual soldiers become less obvious. The Raven can also take pictures while travelling at any speed, but the faster it flies the "fuzzier" a photo becomes, making objects harder to identify. Flying slower not only corrects that problem, but there is also a chance that the Raven's camera will detect things such as part of a glimmering AMS bubble.
The Raven would pose a programming challenge, however, since PS would have to manage image files for the CRs. But it would be a nice way to get recon for an impending assault, or for up-to-the-minute information for large battles.
LimpBIT
2004-02-24, 10:52 PM
see there is a problem with that you could just have a mosquito fly over and look then send a message to the CR5's. But that is a great name for a new air vehicle the "Raven" i like that. I also want some empire specific weapons. They dont necesarily have to have a special purpose. They could be in a seperate category like Combat assualt or something like that. Some weapons for just basic foot combat. Just a few things to think about.
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