View Full Version : [Poll]The Biggest Mistake of World War II
Biohazzard56
2004-02-27, 04:21 PM
For all the history buffs what was the biggest mistake of the Second World War?
No, Japan attacking Pearl Harbor doesnt count, Japan invading Indo-China in the late 30's lead to the US Embargo which later made the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor.
Germany attacking Russia is self-explanitory,
If you have any other opinions, select other and explain in a post.
dscytherulez
2004-02-27, 04:30 PM
Mistake to whom?
Mr1337Duck
2004-02-27, 04:32 PM
I'd say it was them attacking Indo-China. They pissed us off with the attack right afterwards, and brought another very powerful nation into the fray.
SilverLord
2004-02-27, 04:43 PM
Don't flame becuase I think this is correct.
Hitler made the same mistake that Napoleon did when he tried to attack Russia and went way too far into Russia and his supply lines were cut short and the Russian soldiers just destroyed everything as they retreated and Hitlar still chased them.
Biohazzard56
2004-02-27, 05:03 PM
Mistake to whom?
Humanity.
Infernus
2004-02-27, 05:16 PM
Don't flame becuase I think this is correct.
Hitler made the same mistake that Napoleon did when he tried to attack Russia and went way too far into Russia and his supply lines were cut short and the Russian soldiers just destroyed everything as they retreated and Hitlar still chased them.
Pretty much...
Incompetent
2004-02-27, 05:22 PM
Italy invading North Africa. If the axis had focused all its power on Russia they would have taken Moscow before winter. But Italy just had to drag the war down into africa and leech German troops and supplies, not to mention they could have commited there own troops to the Russian campaign. That and Hitler started the war a year early.
Red October
2004-02-27, 05:23 PM
Nerf the Russian Winter!
kreeten
2004-02-27, 05:24 PM
Don't forget that the Nazi bastards also froze their asses off. Bad timing season wise.
Nah, you just never attack Russia.
Everay
2004-02-27, 05:30 PM
Italy invading North Africa. If the axis had focused all its power on Russia they would have taken Moscow before winter. But Italy just had to drag the war down into africa and leech German troops and supplies, not to mention they could have commited there own troops to the Russian campaign. That and Hitler started the war a year early.
true, but its also true that we (allied side) attacked into italy, we saw them as a threat, which anyone with a gun is. so either way, italy would have become a southern front.
and i guess, its not humanities biggest mistake, rather, just the biggest blunder of the war, by either side, id also have to say that putting so much resources into superweapons, canceling superweapons that could have turned the tide of the warm and also putting so much resources into eleminating the ****. (for germany, they made the most and biggest mistakes of the war)
and when i mean super weapons, originaly they were working on jets, but when it seemed as if the war was gonna be over, 40 or so, hitler said cancel all that wont be done within a year, this included jet airplanes. and if you noticed, those jets reaked havoc when employed, but there simply wasnt enough of them.
FlakMan
2004-02-27, 05:32 PM
I'd have to say Germany's invasion of Russia was the biggest mistake
Red October
2004-02-27, 05:33 PM
War would have been over a lot sooner if that paranoid freak Stalin took more of the advice from his Military Officers. Even sooner than if he didn't kill off most of his best Military Officers. Who knows, if Trotsky got into power instead of Stalin...Warld War II could have been just a footnote.
Squeeky
2004-02-27, 05:52 PM
Biggest mistake? Sending US forces to France to pail those coward bastards out.
AztecWarrior
2004-02-27, 05:55 PM
The biggest mistake was the wording of the treaty ending WW1.
However, during the war, I'd go with the invasion of the Soviet Union.
Squeeky
2004-02-27, 06:04 PM
We Should Go Back In Time And Send The Germans Some Peanut Butter, Peanut Butter Makes Me Happyp!!!!!!!!!!!
BIGTROJANMAN
2004-02-27, 06:14 PM
Don't flame becuase I think this is correct.
Hitler made the same mistake that Napoleon did when he tried to attack Russia and went way too far into Russia and his supply lines were cut short and the Russian soldiers just destroyed everything as they retreated and Hitlar still chased them.
Dharkbayne
2004-02-27, 06:45 PM
Biggest mistake? Sending US forces to France to pail those coward bastards out.
Neon Apocalypse
2004-02-27, 06:54 PM
It has to be Germany attacking Russia. They just got their asses beat, and it was way more costly to Germany in the end. But it was a good mistake since nazi germany was destroyed and now there isnt mass murdering of ****. It has to be the biggest tactical mistake there is. And it wasn't the first time. Napoleon attacked russia in winter and got his ass kicked as well.
Rbstr
2004-02-27, 07:02 PM
If germany hadn't pissed off russia they could have won
Dharkbayne
2004-02-27, 07:04 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! MOTHERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You knew it was coming eventually...
SecondRaven
2004-02-27, 07:24 PM
The Germens sending that telegram to Mexico...what where they thinking I mean what is Mexico going to do us? Give us bad gas with their chili?
Happy lil Elf
2004-02-27, 07:29 PM
The Germens sending that telegram to Mexico...what where they thinking I mean what is Mexico going to do us? Give us bad gas with their chili?
.....wasn't that WWI?
ghost018
2004-02-27, 07:32 PM
Other:
Hitler declaring war on the US shortly after Pearl Harbor. Had he not, we may not have immediately gone after him due to the Neutrality Acts.
ghost
Acaila
2004-02-27, 08:00 PM
The policy of appeasement. They should've kicked Hitler's ass straight after he violated the Treaty of Versailles. They gave him more and more rope and didn't do anything till the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact and the invasion of Poland, then Britain and France declare war on Germany. The whole thing could've been avoided if Chamberlain, and later Churchill, had've done the right thing and curbed Nazi aggression immediately.
Germany violating the non-agressive pact.
Paingiver
2004-02-27, 08:29 PM
I think one of Hitlers biggest mistakes was restricting the use of Germany's panzer tank divisions to his order. This was bad, because when the allies invaded Normandy, Hitler was asleep, which meant that the panzer tanks didn't get to the beaches while the allies were invading. Also Hitler should have listened to Erwin Rommell when Erwin told Hitler to stop the war and make peace with the United States and Great Britain, and keep what the Germans had already. Instead Hitler decided he wanted the whole world, and kept the war up.
SecondRaven
2004-02-27, 08:31 PM
.....wasn't that WWI?
nope that was WWII I do remember that its one of the things I was awake for in class
ghost018
2004-02-27, 08:44 PM
We already had a Zimmerman Note discussion. Was in 1917, shortly after the US entered World War I.
ghost
Biohazzard56
2004-02-27, 11:01 PM
Here is my opinion, the biggest mistake of WW2 is when it started, a tie between:
Germany violating the treaty of WWI and Japan invading Indo-China. Great points by everyone though
Happy lil Elf
2004-02-27, 11:23 PM
Thank you, Ghost. Thought I remembered that coming up recently.
Sputty
2004-02-27, 11:27 PM
So many dumbs things happened. Allies should've reinforced more of Belguim and the Ardennes, Hitler screwed up the Battle of Britain(another thing that made his victory over Europe impossible) invading Russia was stupid, Japan shouldn't have attack the US, Italy shouldnt have allowed their flanks to be bypassed in Africa, Hitler should've used Rommel's armor to attack normany when the allies invaded.
Then again, the game's easy to win when it's already been played
Setari
2004-02-27, 11:32 PM
As a precursor, the Allies beached a landing craft with a corpse and fake documents describing a fake landing at Sicily. These were thought to be real by Hitler thus giving the Allies the advantage they planned on.
Now, the Allies did the exact same thing for the Normandy Invasion. However for Normandy the Allies used real documents that almost entirely detailed the invasion as it was to happen. But, in all his wisdom, Hitler dismissed these documents as fakes and persisted with the idea that we would attack the Pas de Calais.
I Hate Pants
2004-02-27, 11:46 PM
The attack on indo-china from the Japanese wasn't a mistake. When the Japanese went to Pearl Harbour to deal with the Americans. They were hoping to destroy thier 2 aircraft carriers. But unfortunately for the Japanese the aircraft carriers were not at Hawaii during the time of the attack.
If the aircraft carriers were at Pearl Harbour it could of been more successful for the Japanese. The Americans push into the pacific would have been delayed much longer as they would have been busy scrambling to either repair or build their aircraft carriers. Giving the Japanese the time they needed to further dig into the pacific and build the proper forces to defend.
In other words. Hitler made the mistake of thinking the Battle of Britain was nearly over and stabbing Joseph Stalin in the back.
arctik
2004-02-28, 01:42 AM
wars take years so even if they went to russia durring the summer it would eventually get coled. The mistake was fighting Russia, America and Britan all at once.
Lexington_Steele
2004-02-28, 02:09 AM
#1 Biggest mistake of WWII was the Allied fire bombing of Dresden.
WritheNC
2004-02-28, 05:23 AM
I think one of Hitlers biggest mistakes was restricting the use of Germany's panzer tank divisions to his order. This was bad, because when the allies invaded Normandy, Hitler was asleep, which meant that the panzer tanks didn't get to the beaches while the allies were invading. Also Hitler should have listened to Erwin Rommell when Erwin told Hitler to stop the war and make peace with the United States and Great Britain, and keep what the Germans had already. Instead Hitler decided he wanted the whole world, and kept the war up.
Yup. If the Panzer divisions were allowed to act without authorization from higher command, they would have pushed the entire Normandy invasion back into the sea.
worldvengence
2004-02-28, 05:15 PM
I think one of Hitlers biggest mistakes was restricting the use of Germany's panzer tank divisions to his order. This was bad, because when the allies invaded Normandy, Hitler was asleep, which meant that the panzer tanks didn't get to the beaches while the allies were invading. Also Hitler should have listened to Erwin Rommell when Erwin told Hitler to stop the war and make peace with the United States and Great Britain, and keep what the Germans had already. Instead Hitler decided he wanted the whole world, and kept the war up. But by the time that that was suggested, the british already had spies with knolege of the camps...that would be unexusable, too much public outcry, they couldnt have made peice, the panzer thing is true tho
oh, and the biggest mistake of WW2 was the invasion of north africa, it just gave the allies ideas on where to hit the italians
AztecWarrior
2004-02-28, 05:44 PM
Italy invaded North Africa because they were bored. Seriously. Mussolini had nothing to his name, while Hitler had conquered nearly all of Europe. He should have helped along with the Eastern front instead.
Manitou
2004-02-29, 07:36 PM
Hitler's inattention to newer technologies. He was infatuated with the tank, when, in my opinion, he should have been spending more money on new technologies. By that I mean the jet engine, atomic research, etc. Now this technically ties in with the invasion of Russia, but I still think he may have been able to extend or change the course of the war with technology.
martyr
2004-02-29, 07:43 PM
1. this thread RULES.
2. the nuclear programs.
if adolf & co had been nicer people they woulda kept their physicists, and the manhattan project would never have happened without all those german scientists.
TheN00b
2004-02-29, 08:05 PM
Bah, Hitler fucked himself royally when he attacked Russia. Period. I mean, for God's sake, man, read history!!! Look at Napoleon: One of the greatest commanders ever , and the Russains fucked him so hard he lost his fucking manhood!!! Jesus... :doh:
I Hate Pants
2004-02-29, 11:05 PM
Hitler's inattention to newer technologies. He was infatuated with the tank, when, in my opinion, he should have been spending more money on new technologies. By that I mean the jet engine, atomic research, etc. Now this technically ties in with the invasion of Russia, but I still think he may have been able to extend or change the course of the war with technology.
Errrr... well.... Germany was the only one using long range ballistic missiles, and they did have the only functional fighter jets in the war. No other country had fighter jets or V1 rockets.
Not to mention. Once the Allies had invaded Berlin ,they found numerous documents on Nuclear Weapons. Also it was Einstien who notifyed the Allies that Hitler was making a devastating weapon. Hence the Americans created the nuclear bomb. Or something like that. Not completely sure.
BUGGER
2004-02-29, 11:34 PM
Jappan and Pearl Harbor. Well at the time to attack us would be best done at Hawaii, but right after that, they should have moved to the west coast if they planned to get us scared.... Thankgod they were really stupid and we had nukes.
worst part of WW2?
no rock music.
Manitou
2004-03-01, 07:19 AM
Errrr... well.... Germany was the only one using long range ballistic missiles, and they did have the only functional fighter jets in the war. No other country had fighter jets or V1 rockets.
Not to mention. Once the Allies had invaded Berlin ,they found numerous documents on Nuclear Weapons. Also it was Einstien who notifyed the Allies that Hitler was making a devastating weapon. Hence the Americans created the nuclear bomb. Or something like that. Not completely sure.Exactly! If Hitler had actually concentrated on these technologies rather than giving them a passing fancy they would have been in mass production stage rather than trickling in a little at a time. They had designed the flying wing, which Americans used to design the http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b2bomber/images/DVD-251-4.html B-2 Spirit, and had planned on using it and other heavy long range bombers to bomb the East Coast of America. Had Hitler spent more money on these type technologies, the war would have been quite different. I still belive America would have won, but the outcome may have been extended or different some way.
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