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xx7xx
2004-03-03, 03:55 AM
Check it out! I'd like any feedback you guys have on my designs. The JH is 3 barrel rotary config, 25mm caliber. The Cycler is 5 barrel rotary config, 5mm caliber. And the Sniper Rifle (Bolt Driver) is .50 caliber (12.7mm). Also, you guys like the colors ok? Suggestions on anything?

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20Group%20Photo-%20JH2%20Bolt%20Driver2%20Cycler2.jpg

OfaLoaf
2004-03-03, 06:25 AM
The images seem a bit big... but yeh, they seem OK.

I know what looks wrong! They're properly proportioned! Exaggerate a bit for that Planetside-esqe feeling.

MrVicchio
2004-03-03, 08:04 AM
CAn you make that JH into a CS model for the Para??????

And the middle one for the MP-5

And the bottom one for the Auto Sniper?

Now that would be tottal sweetness!

(Lets be real, PS probably won't add those, but you COULD make em happen for CS!)

dscytherulez
2004-03-03, 09:52 AM
I like the new jackhammer.

Edit: Cycler should be drum fed.

JakeLogan
2004-03-03, 09:55 AM
They do look good.

SilverLord
2004-03-03, 10:29 AM
Those are awesome. BTW Vic, are you coming back to PS?

SecondRaven
2004-03-03, 11:40 AM
Very nice :clap: :thumbsup:

Fencer
2004-03-03, 01:46 PM
I think the barrel on the cycler looks much too small, it makes it look more like a sub machine gun than a semi-automatic rifle.

Rayder
2004-03-03, 02:49 PM
You left the scope on the JH....

xx7xx
2004-03-03, 03:14 PM
I like the scope on the JH :D

And the Cycler isn't that small, it's just that the other guns are huge. :)

Jaged
2004-03-03, 03:36 PM
A shotgun with a scope?......... ouch......

That thing is just asking to give you a black eye..... or blind you entirely.

Veteran
2004-03-03, 08:13 PM
Those are some pretty sweet 3d models.

/envy envy envy

Seer
2004-03-03, 08:25 PM
A shotgun with a scope?......... ouch......

That thing is just asking to give you a black eye..... or blind you entirely.


:lol:

Fenrys
2004-03-03, 08:27 PM
The Cycler has room for improvement, but I like the other two.

I think the butt is too bulky and the clip is too small.


*edit*

The more I look at it, the more I like your concept of the JH.

dscytherulez
2004-03-03, 08:30 PM
What did you use to model those BTW?

Rbstr
2004-03-03, 09:20 PM
Very nice, man i like all of those. Try you hand a a new guass model.

xx7xx
2004-03-03, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the comments guys! To answer a few questions- I modeled the guns in AutoCAD 2004, I'm going to mess with the cycler a bit- trim it up and add more detail, and the Gauss is definitly on my hitlist :D I'll be doing all the weapons, starting with the HA/MA and working my way out from there. Once that's done, I'll hit the Vehicles, and then start working on adding more detail to everything.

Vis Armata
2004-03-03, 10:59 PM
The Jackhammer concept is good, looks lethal. Those barrels could be either different chokes or the same as now. I like the Cycler model, but not as a replacement for the Cycler - it would be an interesting concept for a new type of submachinegun. The sniper rifle? Too Halo.

dscytherulez
2004-03-03, 10:59 PM
When you fix the cycler, give it a drum mag. It HAS to have it, its the way it was meant to be designed ^_^. Says so in the manual.

UncleDynamite
2004-03-03, 11:31 PM
I agree that the Cycler looks too small. It really needs to be more intimidating...

The Jackhammer, however, is just awesome. The barrel, the clip, everything is just so wickedly cool. Kudos! :clap:

TheN00b
2004-03-04, 11:22 AM
Yep, right now the Cycler basically looks like a Suppressor clone. Add a fat-ass drum magazine, and you'll be good to go.

EarlyDawn
2004-03-04, 11:55 AM
Please remodel the Gauss. That gun is ugly as fuck.

Nice BD.

Deadlock
2004-03-04, 12:27 PM
i like the jackhammer alot... not so much the cycler or bolt driver... cycler needs a drum and its barrel just seems stumpy to me. the bolt driver is "bolt" operated when its reloaded so it doesnt need a clip... if im not mistaken theres a clip on the bolt driver in game, yet its barrel fed when u reload, that annoys me more and more when i think about it

edit: my mistake, thats just a really long finger guard, not a small clip on the original bolt driver

Happy lil Elf
2004-03-04, 02:28 PM
Pic is broken for me, but that's probably because I'm at work.

I think the barrel on the cycler looks much too small, it makes it look more like a sub machine gun than a semi-automatic rifle. The cycler isn't a semi automatic assault rifle. It's a fully automatic assault rifle. Same goes for all the other MA weapons. Semi auto means one pull of the trigger, one shot fired. So the guns fires as quickly as you pull the trigger.

Actually firing modes on the rifles would be kind of cool. Single, 3 round burst (maybe 5 for the cycler) and fully auto. Wonder why they didn't put those in.

BIGTROJANMAN
2004-03-04, 03:36 PM
sweet i like the bolt drivers look

scarpas
2004-03-05, 09:50 PM
A shotgun with a scope?......... ouch......

That thing is just asking to give you a black eye..... or blind you entirely.
http://mysmilies.*******.com/s/contrib/blackeye/small3dblackeye.gif

Happy lil Elf
2004-03-05, 10:08 PM
Ok, finally remembered to check this at home. They look pretty good, although I agree with a few others on being a little confused why a shotgun has a scope lol

Headrattle
2004-03-06, 01:26 AM
the Jackhammer is MUCH better then what is in game. MUCH BETTER.

It doesn't look like a Cycler though. More like a Supressor.

The Bolt-Driver lacks that "open up and slide another round in" feel. I think the barrel of the Bolt Driver should be rather large.

SlyMarbo
2004-03-06, 02:10 AM
Another person who i should talk to in private in relations to how these ideas of his may work well with those i'm posting, i could see a mod of that cylcer concept as the base for my Amphib-Carbine Deisgn.... Private message me if your interested in disscusing co-operating along these lines.

HawkEye
2004-03-06, 10:56 AM
looks good

SandTrout
2004-03-06, 08:13 PM
Technicly speaking, all of the MA weapons aside from the sweeper and pulsar(arguably) are actualy sub-machine guns because they fire pistol ammunition.

A new gauss would be aprieciated as well, especialy considering it's my primary weapon.

SlyMarbo
2004-03-06, 08:49 PM
the more i look at it the more i like the idea of your new JH design as a new Cycler Design

xx7xx
2004-03-07, 04:14 AM
I made the cycler model to use 5mm caseless ammo, similar to what an advanced assault rifle might use if it were designed today. As such, a huge clip really isn't nessicary. But, I can put a big drum mag in there if it looks better ;)

Additionally, I can increase the size of the barrel assembly, to make it bigger, but I kinda liked the short stubby look. Thought it made it look more 'muscular'. Additionally, I'm trying to design the look/feel based on real life considerations, such as how big the ammo would actually be, and how much ammo each gun carries, and then size the mags to that, and then the rest of the gun around the mag, etc.

You guys crack me up. Now I know how the devs feel: "the sniper sucks!... the sniper rules! the cycler rules! the cycler looks like a suppressor!" LOL. Keep em coming! :D

SlyMarbo
2004-03-07, 04:50 AM
yeah enlarge that CYcler barrel and you got it... however the clip is too wide if we're to judge this right. use a pic of an M-12A2 to get a Handgrip/clip ratio idea. the rounds for the two should be about the same size.

also morph that sight on the JH a bit so it's more something you'd throw on a shotgun of it's style... perhaps an Ammo counter?

Otherick
2004-03-07, 07:28 AM
I like that new jack hammer the most. Though if it was up to me, I would make that new jack hammer into a Common Pool Heavy Weapon. It just looks to good to be the Jackhammer

GAJ VESTITE
2004-03-07, 07:38 AM
Their ok but goin away from the games style! The cycler looks nice tho :o)

Kyraal
2004-03-07, 11:04 AM
My first impression is that the scopes could be a bit more different - more empire-specific. Though it would be natural, I suppose, for the NC to use some of the techonology of the TR, because they're a fall-off of them.

In its current design, I guess your new Cycler model could benefit a bit from using bull-pup technology.

Good work, I think :)

dscytherulez
2004-03-07, 11:53 AM
When you gonna give us more? I've been waiting for new models! :)

PhoenixTypeX
2004-03-07, 12:08 PM
Don't get me wrong you have done an amazing job however isn't this pretty pointless as the dev's won't take your models as they would have to pay you royalties for the use of them. I love the guns and would love to see them in PS, I might be being ignorant here but PS does not support replacement models like counterstrike does it?

Again.. GREAT MODELS :D

Otherick
2004-03-07, 01:22 PM
not to my knowledge. Though if you made that as a skin for a gun in CS or some BF mod that would be great

SlyMarbo
2004-03-07, 08:32 PM
doesn't Halo PC support skin MODS?

AztecWarrior
2004-03-07, 08:34 PM
I like the old ones.

You DO realize that 5mm is crap, it won't penetrate shit if its life depended on it?

SlyMarbo
2004-03-07, 08:36 PM
Aztec you do realise a 5mm can be fitted to a large shell casing to give it the force to penetrate 3 inches of Kevlar, and this is still hand held

Happy lil Elf
2004-03-07, 09:16 PM
I like the old ones.

You DO realize that 5mm is crap, it won't penetrate shit if its life depended on it?
You do realize that the size of the round makes almost no difference if you put enough power behind it, right?

LimpBIT
2004-03-07, 10:18 PM
You do realize that the size of the round makes almost no difference if you put enough power behind it, right?

Agreed very much so. Its like the gauss. Has the same ammo just puts WAY more power into the bullet.

xx7xx
2004-03-07, 11:38 PM
Aztec: do you realize that a 5mm depleted uranium projectile at 5000 feet per second could penetrate four or five cars with little to no problem?

SlyMarbo
2004-03-08, 05:41 AM
hehe you didn't specify dep-uranium... oh the evilness of it all

SandTrout
2004-03-08, 11:55 AM
Actualy, smaller rounds have MUCH better penetration power than high-caliber rounds because they concentrate the energy into a smaller area.

A .22 caliber pistol round will go through body armor that will stop a .45 ACP.

Onizuka-GTO
2004-03-08, 07:22 PM
I think Aztec got enough "drilling" to get the message now, fella's.

^_^;

As for the models, i really like the Jackhammer, and yes I think the Cycler needs a bigger clip, but i like the "snub" barrel, its cute!
:lol:
Dunno about the bolt driver, just looks.....strange. Maybe cos I don't use it, and the only good sniper is a dead one. :p :lol:

SlyMarbo
2004-03-08, 08:04 PM
BIGGERClip? maybe a longer one.. or a drum but the clip looks like it is geared towards shells of a different caliber than we want...

SlyMarbo
2004-03-08, 08:05 PM
Well if he Resizes the Barrel it might balance it on the other hand....

EarlyDawn
2004-03-08, 08:16 PM
STOP DOUBLE POSTING

It's irritating and it can get you in trouble. Click on edit...

NoSurrender
2004-03-08, 09:45 PM
that sniper rifle is a copy of the one in renegade.

AztecWarrior
2004-03-08, 10:43 PM
I think Aztec got enough "drilling" to get the message now, fella's.

^_^;

:lol:

But still, I'd rather have a steel-cored 7.62x51. Now please hold the facts and figures. We'll just say that I prefer the older (as in current use) models.

Rbstr
2004-03-08, 10:48 PM
I think the new guass should Be basicaly the Auraxis version of the AK-47, i drew a scetch that was a mix of the Guassa nd it, it look kinda cool i'm gona scan it.