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AztecWarrior
2004-03-11, 07:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=spain

By MAR ROMAN, Associated Press Writer

MADRID, Spain - A series of bombs hidden in backpacks exploded in quick succession Thursday, blowing apart four commuter trains and killing at least 192 people and wounding 1,200. Spain blamed Basque separatists but a shadowy group claimed responsibility in the name of al-Qaida for the worst terrorist attack in Spanish history.

Panicked commuters trampled on each other, abandoning their bags and shoes, after two of the bombs went off in one train in the Atocha station in the heart of Madrid. Train cars were turned into twisted wrecks and platforms were strewn with corpses. Cell phones rang unanswered on the bodies of the dead as frantic relatives tried to call them.

"March 11, 2004, now holds its place in the history of infamy," Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar said.

The bombing came three days ahead of Spain's general election on Sunday. A major campaign issue was how to deal with ETA, the Basque militant group.

Campaigning for the election was called off and three days of mourning were declared.

It was also exactly 2 1/2 years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States, and was Europe's worst since the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland, that killed 270 people.

The 10 backpack bombs exploded in a 15-minute span, starting about 7:39 a.m., on trains along nine miles of commuter line from Santa Eugenia to the Atocha terminal, a bustling hub for subway, commuter and long-distance trains just south of the famed Prado Museum. Police also found and detonated three other bombs.

"An act of barbaric terrorism has engulfed Spain with profound pain, repulsion and anger," King Juan Carlos said on national television.

Worst hit was a double-decker train at El Pozo station, where two bombs killed 70 people, fire department inspector Juan Redondo said. One corpse was blown onto the roof.

At the Santa Eugenia station, "there was one carriage totally blown apart. People were scattered all over the platforms. I saw legs and arms. I won't forget this ever. I've seen horror," said Enrique Sanchez, an ambulance worker.

Forty coroners worked to identify remains, the national news agency Efe said, and a steady stream of taxis carried relatives to a sprawling convention center that was turned into a makeshift morgue.

Three days of national mourning were declared and thousands of people took part in spontaneous anti-terror rallies across the country Thursday. The government called for nationwide anti-ETA demonstrations on Friday evening, and millions were expected.

Who carried out the highly coordinated attack was a mystery. The government put the Basque separatist group ETA at the top of its list of suspects, although a shadowy group claimed responsibility in the name of al-Qaida.

The Arabic newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi said it had received a claim of responsibility issued in the name of al-Qaida. The e-mail claim, signed by the shadowy Brigade of Abu Hafs al-Masri, was received at the newspaper's London offices and said the brigade's "death squad" had penetrated "one of the pillars of the crusade alliance, Spain."

"This is part of settling old accounts with Spain, the crusader, and America's ally in its war against Islam," the claim said.

Spain had backed the U.S.-led war on Iraq (news - web sites) despite domestic opposition, and many al-Qaida-linked terrorists have been captured in Spain or were believed to have operated from there.

Spain's government is studying the reported al-Qaida claim but still believes ETA is more likely responsible, a senior official in Aznar's office said.



Spain's security forces were not ruling out "any line of investigation," Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.

The United States believes Al-Masri sometimes falsely claims to be acting on behalf of al-Qaida. The group took credit for blackouts in the United States and London last year.

A U.S. counterterrorism official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it was too early to determine who was responsible. The official noted that al-Qaida usually does not take responsibility for attacks.

If the attack was carried out by ETA, it could signal a radical and lethal change of strategy for the group that has largely targeted police and politicians in its decades-long fight for a separate Basque homeland.

But after police found a stolen van with seven detonators and the Arabic-language tape parked in a suburb near where the stricken trains originated, Acebes said: "I have just given instructions to the security forces not to rule out any line of investigation."

A top Basque politician, Arnold Otegi, denied ETA was behind the blasts and blamed "Arab resistance," noting Spain's support for the Iraq war.

The government said ETA had tried a similar attack on Christmas Eve, placing bombs on two trains bound for a Madrid station that was not hit Thursday.

"ETA had been looking for a massacre," said Acebes, the interior minister. "Unfortunately, today it achieved its goal."

The Interior Ministry said tests showed the explosives used in the attacks were a kind of dynamite normally used by ETA.

The bombers used titadine, a kind of compressed dynamite also found in a bomb-laden van intercepted last month as it headed for Madrid, a source at Aznar's office said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Officials blamed ETA then, too.

In a break with past ETA tactics, there were multiple attacks and no advance warning. ETA has usually gone after one target at a time and the largest casualty toll was 21 killed in 1987.

ETA has claimed responsibility for more than 800 deaths since 1968.

Sympathy poured in from capitals worldwide, led by Spain's partners in the 15-nation European Union (news - web sites), and neighboring France raised its terror alert level. In Athens, security also was tightened at train stations and the Spanish Embassy, although overall plans for the Aug. 13-29 Olympics will not change, officials said.

The United States, Britain and Russia said the attacks demonstrated the need for toughened resolve against terrorists.

President Bush (news - web sites) called Aznar and Juan Carlos, saying he expressed "our country's deepest sympathies toward those who lost their life.

"I told them we weep with the families. We stand strong with the people of Spain," he said.

Aznar was a staunch supporter of U.S.-led war that ousted Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and Spain sent 1,300 troops to Iraq.

Aznar, who himself survived an ETA car bombing in 1995, will step down when a new government is formed after the elections.

Revulsion over the attack could benefit Aznar's ruling conservative Popular Party because of its hard-line stance against ETA.

Both the Popular Party and the opposition Socialists ruled out talks with ETA during the campaign.

"No negotiation is possible or desirable with these assassins who so many times have sown death all around Spain," Aznar said.

The Socialists came in for withering criticism during the campaign because a politician linked to the Socialist-run government in the Catalonia region, which also has separatist sentiment, admitted meeting with ETA members in France in January. The Socialists were lambasted as allegedly undermining Spain's fight against ETA.

The group � Euskadi ta Askatasuna, or Basque Homeland and Freedom � is believed by police to number perhaps only several dozen hard-core militants who are supported by a wider group of Basque nationalists.

The government had recently expressed cautious optimism that ETA was near defeat after mass arrests, seizures of weapons and explosives, increased cooperation from France and the banning of ETA's purported political front. The number of people killed in ETA attacks dropped to three last year.
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This is their 9/11. Don't laugh.

If there are any Spaniards here, you have my (and our) condolences.

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Lo que paso en Madrid hoy es un acto de violencia directada a personas ordinarias. Que Dios te bendigan. Si hay espa�oles aqui, tienen mis condolencias.

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This is not a poltical thread. Don't condemn it to the Pit.

delta
2004-03-11, 07:27 PM
I saw this on the news just a few hours ago.
My condolences to Spain.

Dharkbayne
2004-03-11, 07:28 PM
Fucking terrorists. :mad: :tear:

AztecWarrior
2004-03-11, 07:31 PM
For your information, smileys really don't help in serious situations.

Rbstr
2004-03-11, 07:33 PM
Yeah i heard it on the radio

1024
2004-03-11, 07:36 PM
i'm basque...

AztecWarrior
2004-03-11, 07:38 PM
i'm basque...
Really?

I disapprove of all the shit going for the PV (Pais Vasco) going right now. It appears the Spanish government is psychic and already has made up their minds.

1024
2004-03-11, 07:44 PM
I'm 1/4 Basque, 1/4 French, 1/8 Swedish, 1/8 Irish, and 1/4 Japanese.

Derfud
2004-03-11, 07:51 PM
What's the point? Killing innocents wont accomplish anything...

Mr1337Duck
2004-03-11, 07:58 PM
Agreed, there were no priority targets there, same with 9/11. Killing innocents accomplishes nothing and makes people hate their ideals, killing political leaders furthers their goals.

Spee
2004-03-11, 07:59 PM
What's the point? Killing innocents wont accomplish anything...


1: Disrupt Economic functions (look what happened to airlines after 9/11)
2: Terrorize the populace.
3: Make a stand against an enemy that you cannot fight on traditional grounds.
4: Damage morale.
5: Force the government into a knee-jerk reaction, which involves writing up a peice of legislature that is not even mentioned by the mass media, and revokes several freedoms.*



*Yes, this is a Jab at the PATRIOT ACT. I dont care. Send flames to me via PM so this doesnt get sent to the pit.

OfaLoaf
2004-03-11, 08:03 PM
Crap.

[I'm serious, honest] How close to post 9/11 do you think they'll become? Do you think they'll send soldiers to any countries? [/done]

FlakMan
2004-03-11, 08:16 PM
Body count's up to 192 now? It was 173 last I heard.

Strygun
2004-03-11, 08:20 PM
Lo siento. Muchos violencia en este mundo.

EarlyDawn
2004-03-11, 08:22 PM
As unsupportive as I was about the war in Iraq, this will simply have to happen to every country until the world gets off it's collective ass and makes a conceited effort to drive these fuckers into the ground.

Derfud
2004-03-11, 08:34 PM
1: Disrupt Economic functions (look what happened to airlines after 9/11)
2: Terrorize the populace.
3: Make a stand against an enemy that you cannot fight on traditional grounds.
4: Damage morale.
5: Force the government into a knee-jerk reaction, which involves writing up a peice of legislature that is not even mentioned by the mass media, and revokes several freedoms.*



*Yes, this is a Jab at the PATRIOT ACT. I dont care. Send flames to me via PM so this doesnt get sent to the pit.


Good points, didnt think of those.

Khronos
2004-03-11, 08:50 PM
so like 912 days from 9/11...
911 days if there was no leap year :eek:


i heard about this in spanish class. a venezuelan girl was giggling, another spanish girl was upset..but she had heard earlier.
our europe trip may be canceled because of this event.

saddening events and loss of life....things like this just shouldnt happen..

Mr1337Duck
2004-03-11, 09:01 PM
giggling? Find that girl tomorrow and do a flying ninja kick to her face.

Dharkbayne
2004-03-11, 09:19 PM
giggling? Find that girl tomorrow and do a flying ninja kick to her face.

Sputty
2004-03-11, 09:21 PM
also, mock Venezuela. It's really easy to mock any South American country. REALLY easy.

Dharkbayne
2004-03-11, 09:33 PM
also, mock Venezuela. It's really easy to mock any South American country. REALLY easy.
:rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol:

Khronos
2004-03-11, 09:37 PM
:rofl: sputty and 1337duck

will do.

she has no respect for anything and .'. deserves it.

people like that sicken me, honestly.

Dharkbayne
2004-03-11, 09:42 PM
Yeah, back when 9/11 happened, some kid said "Wow, that explosion was SO COOL!"
I bitchslapped him. Hard. He wasn't man enough to be punched.

Sputty
2004-03-11, 09:46 PM
Yeah, back when 9/11 happened, some kid said "Wow, that explosion was SO COOL!"
I bitchslapped him. Hard. He wasn't man enough to be punched.
Pure ownage.

FlakMan
2004-03-11, 10:01 PM
We need.....Rainbow Six!

Infernus
2004-03-11, 10:14 PM
hmm... its a terrible, sad thing when a Para-military force resorts to attacking civilians... and my heart goes out to the the family of those who died...


On a different note: Desea vivo el trono espa�ol ... damn constitutional monarchies...

Everay
2004-03-12, 03:22 AM
i saw this this morning around the time it happened. just count your blessings really, this could have happened before, but thankfully they get caught before it happens, and the people will only recognise that someone needs to have their ass handed to them after they get theirs on a plate, really pisses me off, but the only way for the world to wake up is for this to happen i suppose. but i belive in the end, those son of a bitches will get what they deserve.

kreeten
2004-03-12, 03:24 AM
What's the point? Killing innocents wont accomplish anything...

Octavian
2004-03-12, 03:08 PM
so like 912 days from 9/11...
911 days if there was no leap year

Sorry to disappoint your theory, but as far as I know, it was a leap year. So 912 days.

Infernus
2004-03-12, 04:30 PM
hmmm... is that not a bit redundant by saying that it was a leap year when he himself stated that...

MrVicchio
2004-03-12, 05:17 PM
Told ya bad shits comming down, but noooo I am a crack pot.

I think there will be more though, I really do.

Oh, and the one that really hit me, was the 7month old girl, dead, her father missing, mother in ICU.... fucking terrorist...

Onizuka-GTO
2004-03-12, 05:37 PM
Condolences to all Spainards.
I hope my friend who's studying in Spain is okay, she came to visit just 2 weeks ago...
And just seen the pictures of Madrid grid-lock with millions of people protesting, and the news that even the shadowy leader of ETA (braque terrorisr group) has spoken out that it wasn't them....could by Al Queda

AztecWarrior
2004-03-12, 05:59 PM
Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna ("Basque Fatherland and Liberty in Basque, they don't speak Spanish) currently denies responsibility and blames Al-Qaeda. I wouldn't jump to conclusions.

They found a van full of bombs and a phrase from the Koran, so some blame Islamic terrorists.

Everay
2004-03-12, 07:17 PM
of course, one group that says they speak for al qaeda says it was them, but the gov says that the same group is often full of shit, IE they claimed responsibility for that black out in new york and also in the UK. other stuff too. personaly, i dont care who did it, any group that can be classified as terrorist needs to be taken the fuck down, now.

Mag
2004-03-12, 07:24 PM
ETA is terrorist, but more in the sense of the terrorist groups out of Palestine. (more or less a seperatist movement)