flares

[easypickings]

probably been said a million times before but,

hows about flares for you mosq or reaver boxes could be same size as the rockets so you would have to make a trade off but could be worth it.

[CMRath]

y would you even need this?

[easypickings]

to stop locked on missles ?

[Sploogey]

omg that would be great
i always get pwned by AA MAXes
and no that has never been suggested before to my knowlegde

[SuperSixOne]

it would be cool but there shuld still be a 50/50 chance of getting hit. As in... if the guy who has you locked on has line of sight then the missle shuld still reach its target. However..if the missle follows you past his field of vision the flares shuld be used/ shuld be effective.

[Krinsath]

Countermeasures (like flares) are being discussed by the Devs as a "post-BR20" ability. I strongly disagree with such a shift being BR20 only, but that's just me.

Not only are there going to be countermeasures, but counter-countermeasures. So, we'll see in however many months it takes to get it all ironed out.

[SilverLord]

That would be really cool, just like in Tribes 2.

I don't agree with it only being post BR 20 though.

[321]

Flares as in to shoot in the sky to get people to come and help you?

[SilverLord]

Flares as in to shoot in the sky to get people to come and help you?No. What hes talking about is a fake target that would be shot from the reaver/mossie and the missles that are locked onto the reaver/mossie instantly target the flare instead of the aircraft.

You would only have a limited amount of course. Maybe 3 per ammo box or so.

[Electrofreak]

Read it again. Flares to detonate a locked on missile before impact.

As a pilot though, I have to say I think this would make aircraft overpowered. To avoid missiles, I can usually just hit my burners and drop to the weeds. Bingo. No more lockon. However, if there will be CCMs for the enemy to utilize against me, it might be pretty cool.

[321]

No. What hes talking about is a fake target that would be shot from the reaver/mossie and the missles that are locked onto the reaver/mossie instantly target the flare instead of the aircraft.

You would only have a limited amount of course. Maybe 3 per ammo box or so.


Oh I see :lol:, thanks for telling me. And yeah I think that's a good idea but using your afterburners to get behind something works just as well.

[SilverLord]

Oh I see :lol:, thanks for telling me. And yeah I think that's a good idea but using your afterburners to get behind something works just as well.Hah, not for NC sparrow lock on.

I swear those things move right around the trees and hunt you down.

[Krinsath]

I don't think they'd make the countermeasures 100% effective, but they'd give a chance for an evasive manuever to actually break the lock. The problem is that aircraft currently have to hug the ground to avoid the enemy, that's of no help to a plane flying at the flight ceiling. Just a small thing to let pilots have a chance to be in the air.

Plus, it'd be a Burster buff, since their munitions can't be jammed. ;) There. A TR MAX buff...ya happy now? :D

[SilverLord]

There. A TR MAX buff...ya happy now? :DOf course.

[Happy lil Elf]

Hah, not for NC sparrow lock on.

I swear those things move right around the trees and hunt you down.
Personally I hate the starfire more than anything. By the time you see the first shot coming on radar there are already 20 in the air >_<

I do love playing my sparrow occasionally though. Not really because I like the suit all that much, but because killing dumb people amuses me. I will never understand what could make any reaver pilot think it's a good idea to hover i place and try to rocket spam an AA max from 150m away /boggle

[oddfish]

First person who bitches that "Buh it won't affect the NC FEENIKS, NC BUFF, NC BUFF, that sUX0RZ!!!11" i'm gonna melt their brain with my laser gun.

It affects all the factions. Read into it.

Just pre-empting a possible moron explosion. :D

[Krinsath]

First person who bitches that "Buh it won't affect the NC FEENIKS, NC BUFF, NC BUFF, that sUX0RZ!!!11" i'm gonna melt their brain with my laser gun.

It affects all the factions. Read into it.

Just pre-empting a possible moron explosion. :D

Ok...in a similar attempt and just to point out...each empire has 2 weapons for AA work...their AA MAX and their AV. Let's review:

NC - No lock-on for AV, Lock-on for AA MAX.

VS - No lock-on for AV, Lock-on for AA MAX.

TR - Lock-on for AV, no Lock-on for AA MAX.

And of course there's the common pool Skyguard, which has no lock-on.

See how everyone has an AA weapon that locks on and one that doesn't? ;)

[oddfish]

HOORAY FOR KRINSATH! :clap:

i think we've saved this thread from the possibility of ignor-o-flame.

[Cryptica]

Only problem is that flares (chaff as well) only work on some missles. Heat-seeking missles have a chance of being messed up by flares, but are the homing missles of VS AV and MAXes heat seeking?

[oddfish]

AHA! aye, there's the rub! But then, why not chaff in place of flares? Who knows?!?!

[Krinsath]

Envision some super-advanced PS beacon that produces a heat and radar signature similar to the targets. If the missile is fooled, it's fooled. If it isn't, it isn't. ;)

[Duffman]

probably been said a million times before but,

hows about flares for you mosq or reaver boxes could be same size as the rockets so you would have to make a trade off but could be worth it.

Dumb idea, lock-on doesnt work as it is now. And if you get shot down by lockin things alot then you really should stop flying because your prolly really bad at it. :mad:

[Krinsath]

Lock-on is NOT bugged against aircraft (at least not the Striker or Starfire and I don't have too much trouble with the Sparrow). It sucks against ground targets, but I think there's a problem with if there's anything nearby your target, like a rock.

Up in the air, there are no such obstructions, so it's not so hard to target them. Countermeasures are needed anywhere that a Starfire MAX is for sure and pretty much anywhere. Not a 100% success CM, but something that will give you a 50/50 chance, especially if you break away.

As much as people complain about Reaver spam...if they didn't have to hug the deck, they wouldn't see you until it was too late to make an attack run...it's hard to see infantry up in the air.

[Duffman]

You get a warnign when they lock on. If you fly into a area where there are is lots of AA you deserve to die.

[Dharkbayne]

A EMP bubble that extends out 10M from the aircraft, sheilding it from missles and other locking projectile, also makes pheonixs dumbfire when they hit the field. So, basically, it doesn't KILL the missle, but it makes anything that goes through it dumbfire, so it won't protect dumbasses who just sit still, you gotta keep moving. Runs off the same power as the afterburners, but drains energy 3/4 as fast.