CSR's being gay.

[Raige]

CSRs suspends you for doing exploit on the FIRST TIME with out warning you that you are doing it.

I have no clue that I was doing exploit. CSR-JohnnyA just suspended me right away instead of using warning and trying to tell me that I am doing exploiting nor how to fix it.

I paid 30 bucks for the core expansion and I should play inside. It was my first time I got in the core, EVER.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/038259.html

[Lartnev]

Aha, but why should moaning about it on these boards help you?

In all honesty, what you should have done was recalled to sanctuary or instant actioned, and then used /bug.

Whining about it on the forums has probably ruined any chances of having your account re-activated.

[Zatrais]

CSRs suspends you for doing exploit on the FIRST TIME with out warning you that you are doing it.

I have no clue that I was doing exploit. CSR-JohnnyA just suspended me right away instead of using warning and trying to tell me that I am doing exploiting nor how to fix it.

I paid 30 bucks for the core expansion and I should play inside. It was my first time I got in the core, EVER.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/038259.html

Uh, so you're running around, inside a cavern, whitout seeing the buildings, that having the effect of you standing inside buildings shooting out whitout them beeing able to shoot back and you wonder why you got suspended?

[Breed]

I agree with Lartnev, its your responsibility to report bugs/exploits and avoid being a part of them yourself.
If you think something is wrong and that you have an unfair advantage, the last thing you should do is start firing.

Upon viewing the official thread, i can see you have no real defense for your actions, and simply stated when asked why you started shooting when you knew something was wrong, "Its an FPS game, wtf should i do just sit their and die?" (Loose quote), instead of coming up with a more reasonable answer leads me to beleive you are just a whiner and are not going through the porper channels and instead choose to 'bash' the devs in your frustration.

My advice to you is to e-mail [email protected] with your problem, once every other day, until your problem is resolved amicably.

[321]

Post that in the game discussion part of the forum the devs don't read the Markov part.

[Madcow]

I've read the post 3 times and still can't find the part about the CSR having a same sex partner.

[321]

I've read the post 3 times and still can't find the part about the CSR having a same sex partner.

:rolleyes:

[Lartnev]

I've read the post 3 times and still can't find the part about the CSR having a same sex partner.

:rofl:

[Seer]

Alright, how many people did you kill in order to *cough* verify that your opponents couldn't see you or fire back before reporting it? You didn't report it? You didn't even know it was an exploit?

You encountered a bug by chance and decided, instead of reporting it, that you would exploit it. That makes you an exploiter. Your defense that you didn't know what you were doing is breathtaking in its transparency--it's actually a credit to you that no one believes it, simply because they don't believe you to be certifiably retarded.

[SilverLord]

Alright, how many people did you kill in order to *cough* verify that your opponents couldn't see you or fire back before reporting it? You didn't report it? You didn't even know it was an exploit?

You encountered a bug by chance and decided, instead of reporting it, that you would exploit it. That makes you an exploiter. Your defense that you didn't know what you were doing is breathtaking in its transparency--it's actually a credit to you that no one believes it, simply because they don't believe you to be certifiably retarded.:nod:
Owned.

[Ivan]

Well Raige, I don't think you're going to find any sympathy here. :D As stated already I believe, you should have reported the bug immediately.

[Firefly]

I was ready to send him to the proverbial electric chair when I saw the title. Please stop bashing homosexuality just to make a point about how ignorant and stupid you are.

[Raige]

Obviously it was my first time in core. I just saw players floating around, but no walls, no circle telewarp thing. So the dev has to explain it to you and warn you that I am using exploit and tell me how to fix it instead of suspending. That'll just cause more trouble. Hell, 5 more days, and my account will be unsuspended. I go back to cavern and see no walls. Whoopy doo, I get suspended again. Like I said, it'll cause more problems.

CSR has to help you to try to fix it or warn you that you are using exploits. How hard can that be?

[Madcow]

CSR has to know problem exists in the first place. They have 2 ways of finding it out. You 'bug' report it and they help you pretty quickly, and are even polite to boot. The second way is you run around like an idiot killing people who then complain about the obvious cheating, and when confronted you try to pretend that people floating in midair was what you'd expected to find. Gosh, I feel really bad for you.

[oddfish]

first, don't use the word gay as an insult to the devs.. secondly, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed if you think that feigning stupidity in the light of being caught red handed is going to save your ass.

thirdly, never, EVER come to a forum asking for sympathy from the people in the community for being suspended because you exploited a bug. we weren't born yesterday and we know that you understood right off the bat what you were dealing with. i'm sorry, but if you're looking for someone to defend you here, i have my doubts your going to find a devil's advocate.

sorry raige..

[Baneblade]

Prowlers in teh CC!!

[Wraithlord]

ROFLMAO @ oddfish

[teratravp]

if I was playing the game and something weird happened I'd still keep shooting... but if it started to seem fishy after a couple minutes... people walking in space, not looking at me, as if all the walls were invisible... you'd know you could get in trouble for exploiting if you decided to kill 50 guys with it.

not knowing the circumstances it's hard to say whether you deserve sympathy or not... if you took extreme advantage of a situation then it should have been obvious you might get cuffed for it. Personally I don't like the idea at all that you can pay for something... it can screw up on their end and then they can pin it on you. It's like if a cable company accidentally gives you extra channels for awhile... they are fuck outaluck if they think they can make you pay for their screwup. Sony is known to be assholes rather then nice guys when handling terms of service so you really have to keep that in mind when you play.

[Ivan]

Well what I'm thinking he has at least heard or read what the caverans are at least like before he played. He should of seen many screen shots at least. So he should of known something wasn't right. And I'm sure he probably got hate /tells

[oddfish]

Raige, all i'm gonna say is that you fucked up and got punished for it. wait your five days and do it without sulking or bitching over getting caught for exploitation. i hate HATE HATE flaming people, but this particularly upsets me. Surgile got nerfed because of an exploit, so if you discover a bug and exploit it your ass should get nerfed, too. deal with it.

[Desperado]

Just wait the 7-10 days or however long it is, look at the bright side, at least your grief will be back to 0 :)

P.S.
Breed gets my vote for best sig evar!

[Krinsath]

Actually, the people calling you a fool are the devil's advocates. :) Those who really oppose it would call you an idiot and recommend you be banned...simply for being ignorant.

Now, had you killed one or two people, then yes...you can make a case that you didn't know what was going on COMPLETELY. But this sounds like the Surgile who kills eight people in a tower without taking damage and goes "But...I didn't know I was warping! I thought all their guns malfunctioned and were firing training rounds!"

However, you went bragging about the damage you were doing to your outfit (picture on the OF post) which probably means you killed eight or nine people (I'm assuming you don't boast about killing two people). As soon as you receive one hate tell when you suspect something is amiss (like...no walls) you should go "Hmmm..." and /bug it immediately.

You clearly knew something was wrong, you took advantage of it, AND you got caught. If someone working at a bank leaves a sack of money out that they meant to put away and you take it, it's STILL stealing...even though it was their mistake that put it there in the first place. Don't blame the CSRs or the Devs for your poor desicion.

[Dharkbayne]

Looks like you did it on purpose, don't bitch. It's only 5 days. And don't do it again.

[JakeLogan]

PSU has spoken BEGONE *smacks Raige with his Nerf Stick of Doom*

[Duffman]

Thats bull i have the same problem. The rest of you guys are morons. How would you play if you bought PS but you couldnt see the conts so all you could do is "exploit" or play in the caves?

Think about it until they give me or him(perferably me) back our money we should do it. It might make them bring it to the top of their priority lists.

Heres a thread (http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/038338.html) i made about it.

[Raige]

Just wait the 7-10 days or however long it is, look at the bright side, at least your grief will be back to 0 :)

P.S.
Breed gets my vote for best sig evar!

I never get over 50 grief (unless i have special assault certed, ew!)

And no, I did not do it on purpose.

[Dharkbayne]

It's only 5 days, and it's because you continued to do it, not because it happened in the first place, you should've /bugged it, not shot at people through walls.

[Marsman]

I can't comment on any specifics regarding the incident, but the community should be aware that there are two sides to every story. After seeing the records that Customer Service used to make its decision, I feel it was valid and can't help here.
Victor Wachter
Community Relations RepresentativeIts apparent to me you were fully aware you were taking advantage. Continuning to play when you have an obvious problem staring you in the face will get you banned - peroid - The issue needs to be addressed outside the game and it needs to be fixed, I agree - but ruining the gameplay for others is not the way to do it. Take it to tech support, take it to the forums - yes, take it to unsuspecting players for which the game is working right - ah no. :rolleyes:

[oddfish]

shit.. i say don't even bring it to the forums.. we're not gonna save your ass if you choose to fuck people and then cry when someone slaps you on the wrist for it.

[Dharkbayne]

CSRs suspends you for doing exploit on the FIRST TIME with out warning you that you are doing it.


If you can see through walls and shoot through them, how would you NOT know you were exploiting something?

[Raige]

There was no wall front of me! And I couldnt see ANY walls.

[oddfish]

:stoppost:

[Duffman]

If you can see through walls and shoot through them, how would you NOT know you were exploiting something?

So he shouldnt have gone down there?

Maybe he should have just stayed up top and wasted the $30 he spent.

[Seer]

Yeah, let's put this thread to bed. Raige didn't get the sympathy he was looking for, was mildly chided for his brief foray into exploitation and his homophobic sentiments, and managed to stay civil even if he doesn't admit to knowing that he was wrong.

Not much else to say.

[Dharkbayne]

So he shouldnt have gone down there?

Maybe he should have just stayed up top and wasted the $30 he spent.

Yes, because he was exploiting something, he should have /bugged it and STOPPED exploiting it. It's only a 5 day ban, anyways, and he could have stopped it by not exploiting it.

[oddfish]

yeah..

Originally Posted by Hamma:
This thread has run its course

[Dharkbayne]

It's the same as the driver problem that lets you see cloakers as if they were uncloaked, just because it happens doesn't mean it's OK.

[Duffman]

First i wanna say Oddfish get the fuck out of the thread if you dont want it to keep going, no one cares about your opinion and we all wish for you to STFU.

Yes, because he was exploiting something, he should have /bugged it and STOPPED exploiting it. It's only a 5 day ban, anyways, and he could have stopped it by not exploiting it.

No Dhark your wrong. I have /bugged it since early january and nothing has been done about it. I have been told that it was an anomaly. There have been a few threads posted about it with no dev responce.

The time isnt what matters its that fact he got banned at all.

It's the same as the driver problem that lets you see cloakers as if they were uncloaked, just because it happens doesn't mean it's OK.

Again your wrong. Since i had gotten the problem the first time i have: reformatted, reinstalled my drivers, used a different video card(9500 nad gf4600). Dont talk about things till you know waht you are talking about :).

[Spee]

blahblahblah exploiting is fun and easy! blahblahblah I suck and like to bend the rules to make me more 1337 blahblahblah i r lose.



:golfclap:

[ORANGE]

I have the same problem in caverns with not being able to see walls or anything else for that matter except for zip lines and I have /bugged it several times to no avail now I see they banned some one for it not cool not cool at all

[Duffman]

:golfclap:

your retarded

[Acaila]

And all this on International Hug a CSR Day. :tear:

[ORANGE]

I have the same problem in caverns with not being able to see walls or anything else for that matter except for zip lines and I have /bugged it several times to no avail now I see they banned some one for it not cool not cool at all
This was intended to show he isn't a dumb@ss and that you should all apoligize so apoligize d@mnit

EDIT: Tis be a joke

EDIT EDIT: I am however still upset with the way the PSU community handled this

[oddfish]

duffman. you're just an asshole. i mean.. that's all that there is to say about that.

[Raige]

Okay.

You pay 30 dollars for an expansion, "Would you like to Pre-Order Core Combat?"

I never exploit in any game in my life. I never wanted to. Beside, how are you suppose to know if your going to exploit or not. There is not even a warning message that says "Your exploiting, please exit planetside and run a full scan."

Whoopy doo, you damn know theres nothing that does it. How the fuck am I suppose to know if the walls is going to be right in front of me or not? And is what FPS is about, "See Enemy, Shoot Enemy"?

Lets think about this for second, you brought core combat expansion. And yay! People is finally fighting inside the core. So you go inside to the core and don't know where the wall is going to be at? Screenshot dont mean a shit. It can be from any places. You're exploiting which you don't know and then you kill few guys. You get hate tells and people are going to start reporting you. CSR's wont tell you a warning that your exploiting and suspending you right away. Bunch of 30 dollars going into drain. How the hell is the player (ME and you guys) are going to know where the walls is going to be at when we didnt even make the expansion pack?

You guys are obviously a lost minded. Not Duffman.

CSR makes the game and bans you from exploiting and they think you fucked up the game. But I didn't make the expansion. The developers did, so THEY fucked the code or patch in the cavern. That doesn't mean it's my fault. Few people had and STILL do have this problem or bugs. Full scan dont help, reformat dont help. It's a freaking code patch.

I've heard that someone have same card as I do. GeForce FX 5200 (256 MB). Tried to full scan, reformat, anything. Still doesnt work. If you were in my position, what the heck are you going to try? /bug it anonymously ? How the fuck do you know wheres the wall going to lay at?

This "owned" word is fucking annoying as hell and it's for fucking retarded son of a bitch that fights over internet. *mocks* I owned you! I owned you! I owned you on internet! Yay! I killed you over a dummy game! Whoopydoo! you got owned"

Fucking retards.

[Raige]

Oh, and on those SporkFire reply. It means that he doesnt know anything or what happened. So quit commenting on that reply to fucking "own" me.

And again. Retards....

[Doop]

Eh, that happens to me all the time too. I'll warp to the caverns, it has no walls, just ziplines leading to mid-air and floating crystals and telepads. Anyway, I will say that yeah it was pretty dumb that a CSR banned you straight off-hand. Should have gave you a warning first.

[Raige]

Oh, and please dont use "owned" words here. Thank you.

[oddfish]

this is why i wanted the thread closed.. this is the shit it started. don't EVEN try to get all high and mighty with me, duff. listen up and listen good, as soon as a thread starts to sound EXACTLY the same OVER AND OVER again, and the stuff that's being said isn't helping the situation any, then it is time to STOP POSTING. all you're doing is throwing fuel on the fire. It's absolutely absurd to keep posting in a thread that's only going to cause people to get royally pissed off at each other.

Another thing: these kinds of threads only start moronic flame wars and blanket statements about people. This is the kind of bullshit you find on the official forums, trust me, i've been there MANY a time.

Duff, you can say what you like to me, but don't think that trying to sound hardcore is intimidating anyone. and I don't care how long you've been on the forum, you're not the voice of the masses, you don't speak for this "everyone" who wants me to "STFU." last time i checked, Dhark and seer both felt that this thread had gotten old. and it has. well, i'll make duff happy: this is the last time i'm posting in this flame war. Duff, you and raige can stew in here all night if you want. grow up, kids.

[Raige]

Then oddfish, why bother posting here? It's seems that your keep coming back.

Ask yourself 1 question? What are you going to do if you were banned by CSR by the exploits you have never knew and never got the warning?

Answer that question if you can.

[Krinsath]

Do you need a warning to know not to take someone else's things if it's on their doorstep? I mean, if they really wanted it, it'd be in the house wouldn't it? Why just leave a box sitting outside? I'm sorry officer, I didn't know it was wrong to take things...

Yeah, that's the argument you're making. You knew something was odd. Instead of /bugging it and moving back to the surface until it was fixed, you decided to start shooting. Now, killing one or two people you could mount a defense for, as you could *possibly* have not realized things were not right. After that though, you should have thought "Hmmm...I wonder why they didn't shoot back that much" and sent a tell to one of the people you killed and they would have alerted you to the problem. You could have then gone "oh sorry...didn't know" and then everyone would be fine and happy.

I was going to continue giving you the benefit of the doubt until I saw this on your OF thread:

I even beta'd core expansion pack

You continued to do something that you should have realized wasn't totally kosher since it wasn't the "first time you'd been in the core". You undoubtedly saw CC during the beta and the Devs talk CONSTANTLY about how much a pain in the ass map changes are did you think they just randomly removed walls?? Plus you said from the beginning that you thought it looked weird. An intelligent person would have *right there* said something was wrong.../bugged it and then gone to the tech support forums and raised holy hell about the expansion not working right.

Should they have banned you off the bat? Yes, since you knew something was wrong to start with. Sure, the CSR might not have known that at the time, but events after that have certainly vindicated that desicion. Please, quit complaining...suck it up and in the future if something seems odd, realize there's probably a reason it feels odd and turn to your fellow players and the various tools SOE provides for feedback rather than being an asshat and then complaining that you get punished for being such.

[Raige]

Yes, i have beta'd the core combat expansion.

But the problem was in aldivun cavern. I never went to aldivun cavern before. Other caverns, yeah, sure. But I havent went 2 other caverns. Aldivun and dont know the other ones.

In beta, I only have went to 4 caverns and remembered the way there going. If there were more time in beta instead of a month beta. I'd figure out aldivun and other cavern.

I said I havent went to core THAT much, and I never went to ALL caverns.

Dont expect me to remember where the building will be at or anything.

Some of them can be at high floor. Some of them can be at bottom floor.

[Krinsath]

So they'd make a cavern without walls? Totally different from the other 4 that you'd been in? Does that make a LICK of sense?

Fess up that you suspected you were doing something shady, and learn from your mistakes. No other harm done.

[OfaLoaf]

It may be late to start in on this but

Really, is it that hard to figure out something is wrong when you see people floating in midair?

[Raige]

Yes, it can happen on surface.

I have never knew, or seen this bugged after CSR-JohnnyA has told me that I have done it.

Each caverns are different. You know that.

[Acaila]

Oh, and please dont use "owned" words here. Thank you.
You "unintentionally" exploited (I like the "each cavern is different so it is perfectly reasonable to assume people will be walking in midair and can't retaliate when I shoot them" defence), a CSR put you in a hurt locker. I think "owned" is pretty appropriate, son.

[Krinsath]

The continents are graphically different, but they have the same general features. Hills, trees and lakes are all standard. If you went to a continent and it was flat, and people were just floating around, would you shoot at them? No, you'd say "WTF!?" and call for a CSR as quick as you could.

Same concept.

[Breed]

Even though i im particularily fond of people who resort to swearing and abuse to get a point across, i agree that banning you off the bat was uncalled for.
But i dont know what happened, your telling your side and thats all we know.

You probably mouthed of to the CSR or something too.

[Raige]

No, not really. There are different shapes and sizes of trees and hills in each continet.

PlanetSide engine is based on each building, tree, lake. 1 by 1. That explains why Hossin was the laggiest place to fight because of the massive swamps and leaves.

[Raige]

You probably mouthed of to the CSR or something too.


I do not mouth or swear to the CSRs. You can ask CSR-JohnnyA if I sweared front of him.

[Krinsath]

No, not really. There are different shapes and sizes of trees and hills in each continet.

PlanetSide engine is based on each building, tree, lake. 1 by 1. That explains why Hossin was the laggiest place to fight because of the massive swamps and leaves.

Have you ever noticed that the trees are ALWAYS in the same place? Try it sometime. They're always there...never move, never change. Hossin has the fog effect, which is a bit more of a drain than the other continents.

The trees and hills are different colors and sizes on the different continents, but the fact remains that they ALL have them. What on earth posessesed you to think that there'd be no walls in a cavern?

[Dharkbayne]

I do not mouth or swear to the CSRs. You can ask CSR-JohnnyA if I sweared front of him.


CSR's being gay

:rolleyes:

[KIAsan]

I have the no wall bug. It doesn't occur everytime, but it is a regularly recurring bug. You fix it by logging off, then rebooting your machine (which if you talk to tech support, they will tell you to do). If you've been to the core even once, you know it is supposed to have walls, floors, equipment terminals. Seeing an empty cavern with zip lines and teleport pads and PEOPLE mysteriously floating in air where floors and walls should instantly alert you to the no wall bug. I am posting this so folks who have never see this bug understand, there is ABSOLUTELY no way that you could possibly think this is supposed to be like this. Especially if you had beta'd CC. PERIOD. Also, noone should be making the case that "I spent $30, so if I encounter a bug I should be able to exploit it". If that was the case, SOE wouldn't have the ban stick.

BTW duffman, if you have talked to customer service, you would also know that rebooting solves this problem, so it's not an issue of him not using the caverns. Sure it's incredibly inconvient and I will gladly agree that we who experience this bug should either get it fixed or have SOE refund our money. I haven't had a chance to check out your link on the OF, but will do that as soon as I finish this post. It's obvious all of us who are plagued by this bug should work together to put some pressure to bear on SOE for a fix. However we won't further our cause by backing up some idiot like this who was obviously exploiting.

[Krinsath]

I have the no wall bug. It doesn't occur everytime, but it is a regularly recurring bug. You fix it by logging off, then rebooting your machine (which if you talk to tech support, they will tell you to do). If you've been to the core even once, you know it is supposed to have walls, floors, equipment terminals. Seeing an empty cavern with zip lines and teleport pads and PEOPLE mysteriously floating in air where floors and walls should instantly alert you to the no wall bug. I am posting this so folks who have never see this bug understand, there is ABSOLUTELY no way that you could possibly think this is supposed to be like this. Especially if you had beta'd CC. PERIOD. Also, noone should be making the case that "I spent $30, so if I encounter a bug I should be able to exploit it". If that was the case, SOE wouldn't have the ban stick.

BTW duffman, if you have talked to customer service, you would also know that rebooting solves this problem, so it's not an issue of him not using the caverns. Sure it's incredibly inconvient and I will gladly agree that we who experience this bug should either get it fixed or have SOE refund our money. I haven't had a chance to check out your link on the OF, but will do that as soon as I finish this post. It's obvious all of us who are plagued by this bug should work together to put some pressure to bear on SOE for a fix. However we won't further our cause by backing up some idiot like this who was obviously exploiting.

:clap: :nod: :cheers:

[Raige]

ROFL!

I leave my computer off when I'm not on.

If I went to get on, I'd turn it on and start to play. Excuse me while I laugh that you leave computer on all night long.

[Dharkbayne]

How is that funny? I leave my PC on all night, I'm sure 95% of the people here do. In fact, I believe I'm going to start a poll in the lounge to see how many people do.

[delta]

CSRs suspends you for doing exploit on the FIRST TIME with out warning you that you are doing it.

I have no clue that I was doing exploit. CSR-JohnnyA just suspended me right away instead of using warning and trying to tell me that I am doing exploiting nor how to fix it.

I paid 30 bucks for the core expansion and I should play inside. It was my first time I got in the core, EVER.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/038259.html

Yup happened to me to.
They just suspended me out of the blue.

[dscytherulez]

I've been playing since release and I have never been confronted by any sort of dev or csr or being of higher power. Why can't you people just follow the rules more often? Is it that hard to figure out that when buildings go invisible and people are floating in midair that something is terribly wrong? It was your responsibility as a participant in Planetside to report this and discontinue doing it. If you ever think something is wrong, report it. The worst they could tell you is that you're wrong and that it's not a bug and there is nothing to worry about.

Do not complain about your own inability to do the right thing when something is wrong. If there weren't people exploiting like this all the time, the devs would definately go easier. But since there are smacktards in every online game, the rules must change, punishments must get more severe, and firmer actions must be taken to compensate for this.

The suspension is your warning. The only way I would think otherwise about this whole entire post is if you were perma-banned. That would be extreme. What the CSR gave you, was to me, the proper amount of punishment, whether you knew you were doing it or not. Now you know not to do it again, and you'll be back playing in no time.

[Krinsath]

Very valid point D...

They could have banned you should they have desired it.

Chances are the CSR pulled up your record, saw that you were on the CC beta, saw that you've been around for a while and should *know* better (i.e. - you're not a 7 day trial newb on a BR4 character) and possibly pulled up a history of past activities that have been reported (saw it mentioned in the OF that you have a history of some sort, but I'm not going to pry as it's not my business...it IS however, the business of a CSR investigating an exploit abuse).

As was pointed out, we hear only your side of the story...not the CSR's. But from what YOU'RE presenting, it's very difficult to disagree with their actions.

You should have known better and your protests to the contrary have gotten weaker and weaker as the flaws in the story have been pointed out. Please, stop complaining, admit that you made an error in judgement and try to learn from this experience rather than blaming someone who was doing their job.

EDIT: As a technical note, it's better for your hard drives in the long run to leave your computer running. Starting and stopping them often can wear out the bearings in them faster and shorten the life considerably...hence why people who can leave them on, do so.

[Raige]

Can we stop posting here? Im tired already.

[oddfish]

i knew you'd see it my way, Raige.. close this puppy down.

[Happy lil Elf]

Shady stuff.



P.S. Obligatory bump to annoy a hypocrite. ;)

[oddfish]

i know i said i was gonna stop posting in this thing.. but the fact that raige finally gave up made it my duty to make a final appearance, if that's what you're giving the "obligatory bump" to, Elf. :D

[Duffman]

i know i said i was gonna stop posting in this thing.. but the fact that raige finally gave up made it my duty to make a final appearance, if that's what you're giving the "obligatory bump" to, Elf. :D

dude you suck at life

[oddfish]

dude you suck at life


what kind of fucking five year old says shit like that? really. dude, grow the fuck up!

[Raige]

Not really, you still haven't answered my question.

And I gave up because of negative responses.

[Krinsath]

Not really, you still haven't answered my question.

And I gave up because of negative responses.

And what question would that be? Pretty sure we've beaten every single point you've made into the ground, but maybe I missed one.

You mean you gave up because people agree with the CSR that you should have exercised common sense rather than just going to town and trying to feign ignorance? I mean really, call a ***** a *****.

[Raige]

Not really.

[Krinsath]

Not really.

Now who isn't answering questions. ;)

[Lartnev]

This thread is still open?

:stoppost:

[Raige]

Oddfish isn't answering my question.

[Krinsath]

Ask yourself 1 question? What are you going to do if you were banned by CSR by the exploits you have never knew and never got the warning?

Answer that question if you can.

That question? Damn...thought we'd gone over that one...but apparently it didn't sink in...so here goes:

The fact that no walls were present should have alerted you to the fact that something was amiss. If that didn't, then other players randomly floating around in the air most CERTAINLY should have set off alarm bells. If nothing else that should have prompted an /appeal on your part for these players evidently exploiting some sort of zero-g bug, at which point you would have been informed that YOU were the one with the bug.

Basically, you should have *thought* about the situation and acted differently. You acted without thought, exploited a bug (which you did, whether it was your original intent or not) and ruined the gaming experience of however many people you killed (NOBODY likes someone who beats them with an exploit, whether they knew about it or not). Given your history with PS (which stretches back at least six months if you were on the CC beta), and the fact that you were boasting about your accomplishments in your outfit chat (which the CSR was undoubtedly reading to see if there was any evidence that you knew about things being amiss) indicates that yes, indeed, the temporary suspension was justified. Your half-assed attempts to pretend you didn't know what was going on when you yourself say that you realized things were slightly abnormal is pathetic...perhaps next time when you see something unusual, you'll stop and think instead of just diving in.

You made an error in judgement, it's not the end of the world. Learn from this mistake and move on. Stop blaming the CSR for your temporary oversight in the use of your brain.

There, your question was answered. Now the dead horse can rest in peace.

[dscytherulez]

EDIT: As a technical note, it's better for your hard drives in the long run to leave your computer running. Starting and stopping them often can wear out the bearings in them faster and shorten the life considerably...hence why people who can leave them on, do so.

What you fail to realize is the fact that by the time this even does CLOSE to enough physical damage to ANY part of your pc, it's time to upgrade and get a new one. There is no way in hell it does enough damage to hurt something within a couple of years. By that time, your are running a piece of shit computer that needs to be fixed anyway. Your other components would fail before the wear and tear of your harddrive.

[Krinsath]

What you fail to realize is the fact that by the time this even does CLOSE to enough physical damage to ANY part of your pc, it's time to upgrade and get a new one. There is no way in hell it does enough damage to hurt something within a couple of years. By that time, your are running a piece of shit computer that needs to be fixed anyway. Your other components would fail before the wear and tear of your harddrive.

True, unless you're turning your computer off four or five times daily, it won't make a gigantic impact, however you neglict the fact that many HD manufacturing companies suck anymore (don't know why, but even name-brand hard drives have quite a few problems). It's not unusual to get a HD with a lifespan measured in months anymore, and excessive shutdowns and startups (again, more than a two or three times a day)are going to shorten that down. Throw in a hard-drive intensive app (which PS evidently is as Smoke recommends defragging your PS drive often, which is just good sense on any drive that's utilized heavily) and yes, it can be a problem. Not saying it WILL, but it increases the likelihood. You don't have to change your oil every 3,000 miles (which reminds me...need to do that) but doing so will reduce the problems you have with your car.

Add in that not everyone is independently wealthy enough to upgrade their computer at a drop of a hat and you end up with the situation where it's easier to prolong that drive's life than to *hope* you have enough money to upgrade the PC.

I work in IT, and there's a direct relationship between machines brought in for hard drive failures and places where they turn them off repeatedly (like, six times a day) instead of leaving them on during the week. On a one machine basis, not that observable, because it's a very small sample size. On a 1400 computer scale, the relationship is much more observable. Is it the only cause of HD failure? No, but it's a simple thing to do.

[Raige]

That question? Damn...thought we'd gone over that one...but apparently it didn't sink in...so here goes:

The fact that no walls were present should have alerted you to the fact that something was amiss. If that didn't, then other players randomly floating around in the air most CERTAINLY should have set off alarm bells. If nothing else that should have prompted an /appeal on your part for these players evidently exploiting some sort of zero-g bug, at which point you would have been informed that YOU were the one with the bug.

Basically, you should have *thought* about the situation and acted differently. You acted without thought, exploited a bug (which you did, whether it was your original intent or not) and ruined the gaming experience of however many people you killed (NOBODY likes someone who beats them with an exploit, whether they knew about it or not). Given your history with PS (which stretches back at least six months if you were on the CC beta), and the fact that you were boasting about your accomplishments in your outfit chat (which the CSR was undoubtedly reading to see if there was any evidence that you knew about things being amiss) indicates that yes, indeed, the temporary suspension was justified. Your half-assed attempts to pretend you didn't know what was going on when you yourself say that you realized things were slightly abnormal is pathetic...perhaps next time when you see something unusual, you'll stop and think instead of just diving in.

You made an error in judgement, it's not the end of the world. Learn from this mistake and move on. Stop blaming the CSR for your temporary oversight in the use of your brain.

There, your question was answered. Now the dead horse can rest in peace.

That is not an answer to my question. I said what would YOU do.. not I!

[Krinsath]

That is not an answer to my question. I said what would YOU do.. not I!

That is an answer, I said "If you notice something amiss, you SHOULD have taken action about it" therefore implying that after considering the information, I would have /bugged it or /appealed it, hence why I suggested that course of action to you. Of course, given your previous performance with basic cognitive functions, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at having to explain inference as well. :rolleyes:

Stop trying to weasel out of things by being literal and use the mind that you were born with. If you can figure out how to get to these boards and type a post, you have the mental ability to comprehend everything here that has been said. Attitudes like the one you exhibit currently is exactly why you were suspended.

"It's not my fault that I can't think!" never has been and never will be an excuse.

[Raige]

Yeah, but what if you dont know where are the wall or buildings are going to be at?

If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you?

[ChewyLSB]

Even if you didn't know, anyone with half a brain would realize that people should not just be floating around. If I had been entering the first time, and I, in a short span of retardness, decide that it's normal for a place to be competely flat without any walls or anything, had seen several enemies floating around, I would have immediately /bug'ed or /appeal'ed, and then recalled.

[Lartnev]

Raige, you got caught exploiting. Quick whining, accept your punishment and be proud that you are proof to the rest of us that CSRs actually exist on the servers.

[oddfish]

Yeah, but what if you dont know where are the wall or buildings are going to be at?

If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you?

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP BITCHING??? WHEN??? WHEN???

DAMN IT, have you nothing better to do?

I'm writing a paper right now, and occasionally checking the forums.. and i tell you what, everytime i refresh the page THIS FUCKING THREAD IS ON TOP!!!! WHAT THE BLUE FUCK IS GOING ON IN HERE?? CAN'T YOU PEOPLE SETTLE THIS UNBELIEVABLY MORONIC TOPIC!!

Raige, KRINS's answer to this situation is the ONLY ANSWER YOU NEED.

and to be honest, i'll throw in my 2 cents, FLAME ME IF YOU WANT, because it'll only show how unintelligible you are: LISTEN up, and listen good. You now have about four days left to stew over your supsension. SUCK IT UP. it HAPPENS. okay? I knoooow it sucks, I knooooow you're pissed, but why cry over fucking SPILLED MILK? it happened, you can't reverse it now, so just give it up. The CSR's are no longer listening and I wouldn't either since all you've done is make invalid and unstructured points as to why you are right. PLUS, it's quite clear that you were exploiting. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW, BEFORE you JUMP to your keyboard and start angrily tapping away beligerent and idiotic insults and invalid, useless arguments, how about opening your desk drawer and removing ANOTHER game, perhaps a single player, and play THAT for four days until you can play PS again. Don't spend the next four days until you can get back into PS whining on the forums. This is so ridiculous. I said i wasn't going to post again, but this thread has gotten so repetative. PLEASE, raige, STOP for the love of all that is good and right in the world. I am amazed that this thread has gone on for what? two, three pages? FIVE?? FIVE FUCKING PAGES?? JUMPING JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!! i'm sorry.. but this is dumb.

What's worse, is that people make acceptable and valid arguments for why you should stop whining and own up to the fact that you screwed up, and yet you still persist. If you fucked up, that's fine, it sucks you got suspended for a week, but deal with it. If it happened to me i'd be pissed too, but i wouldn't come to the forums and bitch about it. Now, if it happened to me and i KNEW i'd done something wrong, that's when you definitely don't go to the forums and bitch, because you're gonna get, dare i say it, "OWNED." *ahem* Listen, raige, it's time to stop. There are a myriad of other threads to post in on this site. As far as i'm concerned, i've forgiven you for whatever wrong doing you've ever committed. AND, if you still won't admit that you've done something wrong, well then, great. wonderful. But all i'm saying is that if you fucked up, you got punished and rightfully so. If it was an honest accident, well, this'll teach you to be more careful. Sometimes CSR's can be harsh, but they never know who exactly they're dealing with. Like the guy who's been TKed a hundred times in a day, if someone accidently shoots him in a zerg rush who's on his team he'll fucking HA his ass into the ground. Whether it was an accident or not, too many times and it's time for ZERO tolerance. It may seem harsh, but i think it's understandalbe.

Now, i know 90% of the comments i've made will be argued against with very thin and irrational statements, profanity, and forum speak.. also, i know duff or you, raige, are going to flame my ass off because i didn't tell you guys EXACTLY what you wanted to hear. so, flame on, i say...flame on.

[Raige]

"If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you? "

[Madcow]

Dude, quit being purposely obtuse. You'd been to the caverns before. There were people floating in mid-air. Stop acting like a non-trainable. Something was wrong, you knew something was wrong, you made a poor decision. Go away.

[Krinsath]

"If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you? "

"If people are floating in the air of a game that has gravity, how are they doing it?"

One of the traits of maturity is being able to say "Yeah, I screwed up" and moving on. Blaming other people for your own lapses in judgement is not the way to go through life...I only pray you're doing this to draw flame-bait and troll since you were suspended and that you are not *actually* this foolish.

[ChewyLSB]

I love how you purposefully ignore everyone's post to post the most blunt things that you can.

[Raige]

Each building can be in high ceiling, bottom floor. I never been to aldivun, so I dont know which floor it can be at. So,

"If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you? "


And it's not my fault that developers fucked up the cavern patch.

[oddfish]

:evil: :evil: :evil:
:flamemad: :flamemad:
:bang: :fu: :bang:

:stoppost:

[Madcow]

Each building can be in high ceiling, bottom floor. I never been to aldivun, so I dont know which floor it can be at. So,

"If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you? "


And it's not my fault that developers fucked up the cavern patch.

STFU.

[Krinsath]

Each building can be in high ceiling, bottom floor. I never been to aldivun, so I dont know which floor it can be at. So,

"If you cant see it, then how do you know that its right in front of you? "


And it's not my fault that developers fucked up the cavern patch.

Is it your fault that the Devs messed up? No. However, saying that the gun company shouldn't have made a rifle that can be converted to fully automatic with a hammer won't hold up as a defense for gunning down a crowd of people. No, they shouldn't make mistakes like that, but taking advantage of something that you SHOULD know is wrong is not excused by another's mistake.

You *know* people in this game do not float about as they move and you *know* the devs do not vary layouts radically which would in turn mean that all caverns have WALLS. You claim to have known something freaky was going on in your very first post, and that is why you should have stopped then and there.

You didn't, you exploited a bug, you were reported, you were suspended....simply cause and effect. Next time use the brain that you came equipped with and you'll avoid these problems.

[ChewyLSB]

Here we go again. Ignore every damn post and then post some stupid ignorant reply.

[Raige]

I dont carry gun and Im not sure how I feel about that. Beside, I would never carry a gun or rifle.

Beside, who ever made the gun company is freaking stupid. They should give out guns to police officers ONLY! Btw, thats not the point.

The last 2 comment before Krinsath. Cant answer?

[Firefly]

I dont carry gun and Im not sure how I feel about that. Beside, I would never carry a gun or rifle.

Beside, who ever made the gun company is freaking stupid. They should give out guns to police officers ONLY! Btw, thats not the point.

The last 2 comment before Krinsath. Cant answer?
What the bloody fuck does this have to do with anything? If I had this problem, you're goddamn right I'd /bug it, then log out and log in again. Intentional-Exploiting is the same as cheating, in my eyes.

Seriously- with each passing post you look even dumber, and I highly doubt that you do anything resembling remote credit to your empire and your outfit, if you have one. And if you do, they should kick you out for being an ignorant ass and an exploiting piece of shit.

Seriously- read this fucking thread, dude. There might be one person who sides with you, and that's probably out of mercy.

[Raige]

Lol, your just typing out in angry and frustated mood because you wont even know the answer.

[Firefly]

Oh trust me, sherlock- that's not angry and frustrated. I don't get angry and frustrated over exploiting cheat scumbags. I answered your questions. As far as your "seeing/in front of you" question, there's no point in answering because you got busted and you still refuse to even contemplate the fact that you're DEAD WRONG.

They should have banned your ass, but whatever. CSRs do as CSRs wish. You got lucky, now move along and shut your piehole.

[Krinsath]

Lol, your just typing out in angry and frustated mood because you wont even know the answer.

I severely doubt that even your complete level of non-comprehension is enough to set Firefly off. Hell, I've argued with him and people tell me I'm the most annoying SOB on the planet and he has yet to unload on me.

You, on the other hand, have yet to make a valid point that has not been refuted. Your argument about "how was I supposed to know about the walls that I couldn't see?" has been answered (repeatedly) by the simple concept of "using your brain".

If you were a total n00b on his 30-day trial, then it may have been excusable (and even that is highly dubious). You've been here long enough, you've seen CC, you were just a dumbass and got justly punished for it. If I was the CSR and I was reading this thread, I'd up you to be being banned...which is probably why I don't work in Customer Service. :p Please shut up and grow up.

[Raige]

You wont even know if it is suppose to be right in your face.

Thats why you couldnt possibly answer.

[Firefly]

You wont even know if it is suppose to be right in your face.

Thats why you couldnt possibly answer.
What in the name of G'd are you still babbling about?

[Raige]

See, you never read the question.

You wouldnt even answer the question that how your suppose to know if the building is right in front of you if you cant see it.

[Krinsath]

See, you never read the question.

You wouldnt even answer the question that how your suppose to know if the building is right in front of you if you cant see it.

Because you'd been in 66% of the caverns before, had observed that they had buildings and no randomly floating players if you were in on the playtests (again, your own admission). At this point YOUR BRAIN (which with each passing post I begin to doubt the existence of) should have said "Hmmmm....this is radically different from everything I've ever seen...I should probably investigate to see if there's a problem before I go killing people". You didn't, the CSR felt you should be suspended, and just be thankful that it wasn't DanB, you wouldn't be playing PS anymore. Shut up and stop whining about how big of a freakin' idiot you were and endeavor to stop being such an idiot in the future. Your first step is to say "you know what...I probably should have acted differently" but since your thinking abilities are evidently on a par with a three year old, I doubt you'll ever realize that.

[Hezzy]

See, you never read the question.

You wouldnt even answer the question that how your suppose to know if the building is right in front of you if you cant see it.

Run forward and see if you hit an invisible wall?

Although the bug might've not rendered the wall.

[ChewyLSB]

Yeah, the walls weren't rendered, he was running through them. But the players floating through the air should've told him something.

[Sentrosi]

I had the same thing happen to me after I got my new video card last week (9800pro). All I did was completely reboot Planetside and all the cavern goodies were there. I didn't bother to report it because I thought it was a glitch in my video card.

BTW, any other 9800pro users having the problem of having the Gamma resolution turned down low upon starting the game? I have saved my gamma settings, now all I do is hit the esc key, go to video options, click around the gamma sliders and everything comes back to normal. Slightly annoying.

[Shalashaska]

but since your thinking abilities are evidently on a par with a three year old, I doubt you'll ever realize that.


That is an insult to three year olds :)

[AztecWarrior]

I've read the post 3 times and still can't find the part about the CSR having a same sex partner.
Are you names after the radio guy Madcow who goes on FOX in the morning?

[scarpas]

:rofl: I've read the post 3 times and still can't find the part about the CSR having a same sex partner.

[2coolforu]

That Bug happened to me before what did I do i recalled and typed /bug and told them
tadaa no suspension and im probably a lot younger that you

[Firefly]

Are you names after the radio guy Madcow who goes on FOX in the morning?
That's Mancow.

[2coolforu]

Arrgg this post is out of date :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost:

[Raige]

Arrgg this post is out of date :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost: :stoppost:

Please!

[KIAsan]

I had the same thing happen to me after I got my new video card last week (9800pro). All I did was completely reboot Planetside and all the cavern goodies were there. I didn't bother to report it because I thought it was a glitch in my video card.

BTW, any other 9800pro users having the problem of having the Gamma resolution turned down low upon starting the game? I have saved my gamma settings, now all I do is hit the esc key, go to video options, click around the gamma sliders and everything comes back to normal. Slightly annoying.

Thanks man, this is a much better solution than rebooting. Wish Tech support would publish this!

[Raige]

Quit posting!