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xx7xx
2004-03-22, 05:05 AM
http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG.jpg Ok, I've been at it again with my modeling. I actually have quite a few different models in the works- Gauss Rifle, Lasher, Pulsar, AMP, etc. etc. etc.

I'm also working on re-doing the vehicles as well. Anyway, here are some renders of my new MCG design. I know it is pretty radical at first, but take a look at it before you jump to conclusions and freak out :)

I tried to incorporate a large enough drum magazine to be able to realistically contain 1000 rounds of 10mm *caseless* ammunition. While 1000 rounds may seem like a huge amount, it really isn't when you look at the ammunition feed rates of modern miniguns.

Anyway, the MCG is supposed to be a support weapon, and not something to be used in close combat, able to be quickly pointed at short ranged fast moving targets. This design reflects this. Basically I wanted to come up with something that would be similar to a modern day SAW (M249), but still keep the design ideas of a Mini Chain Gun. Actually, there is no need to call it a "chain" gun, as it isn't chain driven. People tend to latch on to the word 'chain' and use it where it has absolutely no application (Devs for instance). Anyway, the design reflects a minigun built for use by a single person, and man portable, able to be fired from the shoulder so as to improve accuracy, while still able to be fired from the hip in a suppression role.

To reload it, the drum attaches at the front mounting point first, and then is pivoted into the reciever, where it locks in. Removal of the drum is just the opposite, hitting the magazine release, and then pivoting the drum away from the weapon.

Ammunition is either a hyper velocity (5000 fps) 10mm depleted uranium APDS (armor piercing discarding sabot) round, utilizing a 5mm penetrator, or a slightly lower velocity (3000 fps) HEI (high explosive incendiary) round.

The advantage of the HEI round is that it is more effective against softer targets, and has a small area of effect upon impact, while the HV-APDS round is better for heavier armored targets.

A note on the 'scope': a variable zoom electro-optical sight is standard on the minigun, even though it is a 'support' weapon.

Anway, here are the renders:

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG%20side.jpg

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG%20top%20angle.jpg


As usual, let me know what you think! (I'm sure you will)

oddfish
2004-03-22, 06:12 AM
i do not like them, sam i am

GAJ VESTITE
2004-03-22, 07:04 AM
Whats the deal with tthat shit under it :S Can't you just wrap the chains of ammo round ur neck?

http://www.purplevalor.com/pv/asp/shot.asp?pos=129

oddfish
2004-03-22, 07:07 AM
Gaj, what does your link have to do with the topic at hand?

<sprinkles you with nc sunshine> quit being such a bitch, Gaj, really, smile more often.

Incompetent
2004-03-22, 07:16 AM
From the link
nc hahahaha
Uploaded by EVILoHOMER on 3/19/2004
Ban

JakeLogan
2004-03-22, 08:03 AM
From the link
Ban

:thumbsup: Yes ban him please. I should have known it was him. why with the horrible spelling and his off topic posts. give it up Pork each and every time you come back you screw up and we know it's you. You always post something to do with your stats or something you think is funny that honestly is just stupid, honestly if you want to stay here learn to spell and stop posting the same assinine shit with stats no one gives a flying fuck about or better yet just go away and troll some other forum.


Anyway back on topic: from the sound ofd them they seem pretty cool but for some reason I can't see the pics. maybe it's just the shitty computer I'm using at work.

EDIT: Ok I can see the pics now they do look awesome but the drum seems a little big. I'm sorry about that whole thing about asshat but it needed to be said didn't mean to take away from your thread.

Diddy Mao
2004-03-22, 08:27 AM
yeah it still seems the work i like the mcg model we have now and the other one (just shown) is too damn short

SecondRaven
2004-03-22, 09:05 AM
Take off the bottom part and it will look great

ORANGE
2004-03-22, 10:07 AM
^^agreed
make the bottom thing look more like the m60 canister

like this
http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/m60d-m41armt.jpg

EDIT: And put it on the side not the bottom

xmodum
2004-03-22, 10:16 AM
Yea, I dont like how your guns are always so short, but you did make a good design, just make the drum smaller and make the barrel bigger. kthxbye.

Electrofreak
2004-03-22, 10:48 AM
Hmm, yeah I'd have to agree that the barrel needs to be longer. Perhaps make the rotating part project from the main housing of the weapon a bit.

Also, the drum seems a bit too big. I'd like to see a different style of magazine... but I'm not really sure what...

ORANGE
2004-03-22, 11:53 AM
^ look at my post about 2 above yours

xx7xx
2004-03-22, 12:28 PM
Well, at least I'm getting *some* feedback. Can you spam idiots please just not post if you don't have anything constructive to say? Thanks in advance. Thanks for the feedback from the rest of you guys.

As for that feedback: I can always do a simple box magazine, but I wanted to try something different. Also, the gun is quite long already, with the barrel assembly being 24" long (that's regular length for a gun barrel of that caliber). It just appears 'short' because you're used to looking at models like the PS MCG (which is completely unrealistic).

Cryptica
2004-03-22, 01:39 PM
I think I agree, the barrel underneath is kinda ugly, but I understand it's purpose. Good comment about the use of "chain" where it has no purpose. I like the pics, you obviously did a lot of work for this, good job. A little modification on the ammo cannister along with a slightly longer muzzle would make it look cooler, but I don't know if that's what you're really going for here.

ORANGE
2004-03-22, 02:01 PM
your all thinking about that guy in metal gear solid with the ginourmous gattling gun when you say the barrel needs to be longer I think it is fine so there

xx7xx
2004-03-22, 02:12 PM
Ok, more renders of revised models. MCG has new smaller mag. Looks better. Also, I am posting a new updated version of the cycler. let me know what you think.http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG%20small%20mag.jpg

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20Cycler%20v2.jpg

Dharkbayne
2004-03-22, 02:15 PM
Move the magazine back and the barrel out more, it's way too top heavy now anyways,

EarlyDawn
2004-03-22, 02:32 PM
Please excuse me while I cry myself to sleep.

xx7xx
2004-03-22, 04:04 PM
Bipod Renders:

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG%20Bipod%20up.jpg

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20MCG%20Bipod%20down.jpg

xx7xx
2004-03-22, 04:29 PM
New group rendering for scale comparison. The MCG is BIG.

http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20Group%20Photo%202.jpg

EarlyDawn
2004-03-22, 05:01 PM
Any chance you could remodel the gauss sometime soon? I hate that gun.

ChewyLSB
2004-03-22, 05:51 PM
Heh, JackHammer still has a scope?

Spee
2004-03-22, 06:00 PM
I smell Pork


Owned.

xx7xx
2004-03-22, 06:48 PM
This demonstrates the scale of the MCG compared to a 6' tall person.
http://www.planetsideimages.com/uploads/xx7xx%20Gun%20Pose.jpg

Rayder
2004-03-22, 07:12 PM
.......................... fucking unproportional...

Eldanesh
2004-03-22, 07:39 PM
I can't imagine holding a chaingun like a rife, seems to me it would fit in better being held underhand like JH and MCG are currently, ditto for newer JH model.

ORANGE
2004-03-22, 08:58 PM
im telling you mount the ammo box on the side

Indecisive
2004-03-22, 09:00 PM
Thats hawt..


except the barall.

Need to get rid of that...Cycler is drum fed, not MCG...

Besides, that thing is HUGE! Is that even proportional? But the acuall body is fucking leet.


/edit/ secondary bipod mode would be awsome

Biohazzard56
2004-03-22, 09:47 PM
Chaingun not a ammo cylnder, great modles as always, the bi-pod design was nice, but make it belt fed at least if its going to be a chaingun.

dscytherulez
2004-03-22, 10:08 PM
Take that huge bottom drum, and stick 1/2 of it on each side of the gun, this would fix the weight offset you currently have. The recoil would be insane on a gun that you could barely keep straight in the first place, making it an even worse design. And make the cycler drum fed.

Other than that, keep up the nice renders. I also think you should make separate scopes for each gun. You keep using the same one and it seems too "stock" I guess.

Otherick
2004-03-23, 09:48 AM
looks like a frigin Bear Keg. But yeh uhh it sticks out to much, try and make it look more part of the gun.

UncleDynamite
2004-03-23, 12:21 PM
How about removing the barrel magazine on the bottom, then putting all the ammo in a backpack? Then have the chain of bullets being pulled out from the side of the pack and feeding into the side of the MCG? I believe one of the commandos in "Predator" carried a similar setup. It might not be realistic, but realism isn't what's at issue here. Besides, I think it would look pretty badass...