[Classic Fight]Slow/Stong vs. Quick/Weak

[Biohazzard56]

This is a classic fight, discuss.

[Incompetent]

Strong/Slow will typically win when skill is equal imho, luck favors them, but quick/weak will put up a damn good fight most of the time.

[Ouroboros]

Are we talking just throwing punches, or do either have any martial arts or unarmed combat training?

[Incompetent]

I think we're talking about the concept in general.

[Derfud]

I personally prefer Faster, but weaker, because 1 shot kills snipers piss me off. Plus more attacks can sometimes completely interrupt a strong and heavy attack.

[I Hate Pants]

Were you taking a shit or something when you thought up this poll?

I mean.... come on!

EDIT: I actually I didn't see the poll about "which would hurt more".

I have a feeling people are gonna vote quick/ weak just to stick up for the little guy.

[Zenny]

I prefer quick soft attacks easily.

With big slow attacks, if you miss you reap the consequences. But with slow and fast strikes its more of a barrage that can make up for a strong's miss. I mean sure these fast attacks it opens up for misses which avoidable with skill.

Take it like this.
For every attack (A) gets (B) gets two in.
(A) hits twice the damage over (B).
Both (A) and (B) will miss once.

(A) hits 10... 10... Miss... 10... = 30
(B) hits 5... 5... 5... Miss... 5... 5... 5... 5... = 35

I'm kind of very analytical and like to take it down to efficency and thats why I always go with the swift weak guys. Besides the big slow ones are a noobs #1 choice. OMGZ I 1 SHOTZERD YUZ!1!!! :bang:

[Dharkbayne]

Big&Slow

[I Hate Pants]

I prefer quick soft attacks easily.

With big slow attacks, if you miss you reap the consequences. But with slow and fast strikes its more of a barrage that can make up for a strong's miss. I mean sure these fast attacks it opens up for misses which avoidable with skill.

Take it like this.
For every attack (A) gets (B) gets two in.
(A) hits twice the damage over (B).
Both (A) and (B) will miss once.

(A) hits 10... 10... Miss... 10... = 30
(B) hits 5... 5... 5... Miss... 5... 5... 5... 5... = 35

I'm kind of very analytical and like to take it down to efficency and thats why I always go with the swift weak guys. Besides the big slow ones are a noobs #1 choice. OMGZ I 1 SHOTZERD YUZ!1!!! :bang:

Thanks for the doctorial thesis.

[Zenny]

Nah, thats more of what I see in my head if anything. I just think too much and see stuff like this as numbers. :rolleyes:

[Angel_of_Death]

If we're talking about a fist fight, between a bigger guy and a smaller guy...then it depends on fighting skill rather than power/speed. I've seen tons of small guys whoop bigger guys' asses just because they were better fighters.

In other things, like games, I prefer speed but more power usually wins. All depends though.

[SkunkPunk]

average strength + average speed = best combo

[Zodiac]

I am assuming this thread is about fighting games, since I doubt too many of us have experiance in watching street brawls and prize fights.

The best example I can think of is in JKII. I played no force power duels all the time and only used the power attack lightsaber setting. I would always wait for just the right moment after a few of their quick attacks cut me up a bit to swing the big sidelong chop of doom. More often then not I would own the quick little bastards like this. So I liked Strong/slow, but that was because I found I could use it more effectively then I cound the other styles, not because it was better. I think that game had very good balance.

The winner will be the one who knows his style best and can use it well against any other style.

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Skunk -

Strong = 3
Quick = 3
Slow = 1
Weak = 1
Average = 2

3+1=4
2+2=4
1+3=4

[worldvengence]

Slow/Strong...works well...heavy punch to the sternum...that fucker aint going anywhere... Tested and proven by me!

[Dharkbayne]

Fuck fistfighting. Real men stab.

[worldvengence]

no, real men shoot

[Indecisive]

All depends on accuary. If every one hits, big and slow will win. If not, quick will, more chances to hit.

[worldvengence]

nah.... 12 Gau. Point Blank With buckshot...no chance of missing if u are aiming in the general direction

[BUGGER]

no, real men shoot
Bah, real men use God Mode.

[UncleDynamite]

Quick and Weak. Strong attacks don't do much if your opponent is fast enough to evade them, though you might get a lucky hit.

[Squeeky]

How About Petite And Nimble!

[UncleDynamite]

We're talking what's best in a fight, Squeeky. Not what's best in bed (though petite and nimble would get my vote in that case).

[MilitantB0B]

In video games? Quick/weak, do to the miss/hit thing mentioned prviously.

In real life? Strong/slow, cause the more damage you do upfront (ie the first punch) possibly taking the oppenent out, or hampering their ability to fight right off the bat.

This is assuming equal skill though.

[BigFreak]

Guns. It's all about guns.

[scarpas]

ok, my view is that you dont need to be either, as long as you have a bigger gun than the other guy

[Everay]

real men, like richard simmins, slap. as for bigger gun, no, its all about accuracy.

[Ivan]

Teh laddies like it slow and strong. :bananasex http://www.dragonwolves.com/forums/images/smilies/hump.gif

[dscytherulez]

Bah, real men use God Mode.

:rofl:

Slow and strong for the most part.

[AztecWarrior]

Are we talking about guns? Or what?

If I hit you with a 7.62x39 Russian, it's going to do a lot more damage than a 5.56x45 NATO. If I hit you with a .45 ACP, it will pwn you more than a 9mm.

Because with guns, you only need one hit.

[1024]

Quick & Weak.

If you build up your speed enough, the enemy wont even be able to hit you, which means you can hit them as much as you need to.

[MilitantB0B]

Quick & Weak.

If you build up your speed enough, the enemy wont even be able to hit you, which means you can hit them as much as you need to.
:lol: I just got a mental immage of a gymnast WTFpwning Mike Tyson:

<Mike Tyson Lisp> Wait, slow down, I want to hit you. </Mike Tyson Lisp>

<Small Asian Gymnast> No. You slow, I fast, you lose I win, HA HA HA </Small Asian Gymnast>

<Don King> Only in America! </Don King>

[1024]

wts? :lol:

[UncleDynamite]

MilitantBob's post reminded me of this video:

Crazy Asian Gymnist (http://www.collegehumor.com/?movie_id=41454)

This settles my case for being quick.

[1024]

WHOA! :whoa!:

[Mag]

Ahh, he's Joe Eigo.

[Fragmatic]

Ahh, he's Joe Eigo.

Joe Eigo = mad crazy dude.

[I Hate Pants]

I can do all that crazy shit too yah know.

[Cyanide]

Faster always wins assuming equal skill. If the faster guy knows how to exploit his skills as well as the slower/stronger guy, he will hit more often. The faster guy gets the first hit and if it daizes or otherwise causes the slower guy to flinch, the slower guy then takes a hard one in the gut, then an elbow in the spine, and then gets the crap kicked out of him while he's on the floor. This is of course assuming that it's not a couple of pussies fighting with just fists so nobody really gets hurt. If that's not enough to convince you of faster = better, here's some more evidence.

The vikings pwned europe because they could swing 2 hand axes faster than anybody could swing a 30lb broad sword.

Guerilla warfare pwned the US army in veitnam. As a result, the US military has since taken a greater interest in making all of its forces faster.

Fighter > bomber.

Missle > fighter.

Laser > missle.

And the final reason that faster = better...

Ninjas > *

I just got a mental immage of a gymnast WTFpwning Mike Tyson:

<Mike Tyson Lisp> Wait, slow down, I want to hit you. </Mike Tyson Lisp>

<Small Asian Gymnast> No. You slow, I fast, you lose I win, HA HA HA </Small Asian Gymnast>

<Don King> Only in America! </Don King>

Tyson is not Strong/slow. Tyson is Strong/quick.

NERF TYSON! :D

[Happy lil Elf]

Fuck fistfighting. Real men stab.
Only a fool brings a knife to a gunfight :lol:

[1024]

This is of course assuming that it's not a couple of pussies fighting with just fists so nobody really gets hurt.
Guess you've never been in a real fight before, eh? Fists can fuck. you. up.

[Cyanide]

Guess you've never been in a real fight before, eh? Fists can fuck. you. up.

Yes, a fist can fuck you up. But one good kick can kill a person. Do you really think a fist can do more damage than a knee, foot, or elbow? I can leg press over 700lbs and I'm not even what you would call a big guy. If I got a good kick on your kidney, or gut, or knee, you would be out of commision. If you were up against a wall and I gave you a striaght kick in the gut, I could kill you. There are people in the world that can kick with a force of over 2000lbs. That can fuck you up.

[Firefly]

I prefer quick soft attacks easily.

With big slow attacks, if you miss you reap the consequences. But with slow and fast strikes its more of a barrage that can make up for a strong's miss. I mean sure these fast attacks it opens up for misses which avoidable with skill.

Take it like this.
For every attack (A) gets (B) gets two in.
(A) hits twice the damage over (B).
Both (A) and (B) will miss once.

(A) hits 10... 10... Miss... 10... = 30
(B) hits 5... 5... 5... Miss... 5... 5... 5... 5... = 35

I'm kind of very analytical and like to take it down to efficency and thats why I always go with the swift weak guys. Besides the big slow ones are a noobs #1 choice. OMGZ I 1 SHOTZERD YUZ!1!!! :bang:

You forget one thing- hit points. If I hit you twice for 10, that's 20, to your lesser amount. If you're weak, then you can't take that much damage (theoretically). You won't have staying power, you'll begin to be worn down. You assume that your weaker person can stand/survive that long.

This is why TR's weapons are the shittiest. Damage over time only works when you can make constant shots and wear them down- whereas up close where fighting is done, the heavy hitters will kick your ass.