Another Stealther looking for help

[ZeroRaven]

I recently became a stealther because, quite frankly, all the fps games i've played in the past weren't enough to prepare me for real life opponents. At the moment, i have the following certs:

Engineering
Air Calvary ( or whichever gives you the reaver and skeeter)
Infil suit

I'm currently using the surge implant. I was using the melee booster, but i'm giving them all a try (from advice i've seen in other forms).

I know that i can be doing more and there are certs or implants i SHOULD be using, i just don't know which ones. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not sure what kind of player i'm looking to be in terms of support or killing, i'm just after the most exp.

[HawkEye]

if ur gonna be infil alot get Combat engy. its fun laying boomers and spitfires and shit.
also u will prolly wanna get hack and adv hack. as for implants surge wuold be good for a good first implant. then at later br's get melee booster.

[BigFreak]

if ur gonna be infil alot get Combat engy. its fun laying boomers and spitfires and shit.
also u will prolly wanna get hack and adv hack. as for implants surge wuold be good for a good first implant. then at later br's get melee booster.
A well summed, to the point, and useful wee guidey thing. Nice one. :thumbsup:

AKA I can't really think of anything to add.

[ZeroRaven]

Should i keep the vehicle certs or drop them for the CE and hack certs since i have surge?

[scarpas]

, i'm just after the most exp.


uhh... if you want exp be a grunt

[ZeroRaven]

uhh... if you want exp be a grunt

Being a grunt seems to just get me killed. If this were a one player game, i'd pwn it. If i'm not able to be a good stealther, i'll prolly go back to being a grunt.

[Rbstr]

I would stay with CE and surge, boomers are good ways to kill things, and if you plant a mine at the feet of a max that isn't moving you are assured a kill.

Also i would drop the devil dogs for a better outfit alot of peopel i know in it are getting sick of it.

[ZeroRaven]

I see no problem with the devil dogs atm. I'm basically in cause the friend that got me into PS is apart of it and got me a invite. Thanks for the advice btw

[ZeroRaven]

Think i'll drop Air Cav. for CE and ATV certs, whacha think? Do i really need a vehicle while i have the surge implant?

[Rbstr]

yes you need a vech, the wraith is good for sneaking in places.

That sounds good.

[EarlyDawn]

Use the AMP. That gun is a beast against anything soft. At close range, run up and bulletspam them to death, at range, pluck away. If I'm not mistaken, it's the most powerful gun hit for hit (Not refering to the Magscatter, because each one of those pellets are minibullets).

Also, use Enhanced Targetting to see who you can and can't take. Regeneration is key for healing in the field without having to carry or loot medpacks, and is ideal because the infil suit is made for sitting in a corner. That helps cut the stamnia drain. Finally, once this patch comes out, you'll want Sensor Shield to mask you from Interlink, Motion Sensors, Spitfires, and Mosquito Overflight Radar (You can actually dodge this one by holding totally still, but using Sensor Shield will let you run around without detection.)

I would reccomend your inventory consist of

1 AMP (Holster)
1 box of ammo
2 ACEs
1 REK

It's probably advisable that you pick up at least the basic hacking cert so you can hack into a locker and retrieve more supplies inside a base or tower, plus it makes your door hacks faster.

[Edit: Rbstr's on the ball. Pick up ATV before Hacking]

[Madcow]

Good advice from EarlyDawn. I would say drop air cav for now, but keep it in mind for later. If you're looking to score xp mostly right now and looking to be a cloaker let me give my .02. At BR6 you should have the infil suit, engineering and combat engineering. For your transport cert I would say get the AMS, it's best not to count on others to bring along your mobile spawn/inventory point as you'll be chewing through inventory fast. For your single implant I would say melee booster, but that's a matter of personal preference. You should concentrate your efforts on defense at bases, and you should go out of your way to try and defend only bases which have the interlink benefit. Once you get to a base with the interlink benefit, pay close attention to the HUD and try and get an idea which direction the enemy is coming from and which entrance to the base they're concentrating on getting into. Once you know that, find an area where a decent number seem to be passing by and start working on your spitfire timing. The key to spitfire timing is laying them as somebody is running past you. Lay them a split second too early and they'll see the green stuff and light the area up and kill you. Hopefully you're able to also time it so that nobody else happens to be looking in your direction when you do it.
Because you have the interlink benefit, the spit will pop up and shoot them and continue to shoot them even after they freeze their movement (it takes a second for them to register that the spit isn't stopping), but before that first spit has even popped up you need to run parallel to your target, ACE circle on the ground waiting for the first spit to pop up and the circle to go green letting you know you can lay it. If they're lucky enough to take out the first spit, second will almost certainly take them out. Now rifle through their inventory, see if there's any pistols you can use. Keep doing this with the spits until you run out of ACEs. Once you're out of ACEs you can either run back to the AMS (boring) or see how many guys you can stab before they find you (the most fun in the game). Keep in mind that 95% of the people you come up against are going to die in 2 stabs, and the 1st one is pretty much free unless they're paying amazing attention. Get into secondary mode, turn on melee booster and start crouch walking around. I recommend keeping secondary mode on from a distance from your target, I find far fewer people notice the sound if it gradually gets closer to them instead of suddenly turning on. Once you get to your target's back, get out of your crouch because if they make a defense move and you're crouched it's a quick fight. When stabbing, aim at the bulk of their bodies. Crouched snipers will have their head as the main target but the knife doesn't register all blows to the head. Take the time to look down at the bulk of their bodies and stab there. If they jump up and start circling after you stab once, relax. You only need to land one more blow. You won't win every time, but with practice you will the majority.

As you increase in levels I recommend:

Medic (carrying a med applicator can keep you in the field for a long time)
Hacking & Adv Hacking (Wouldn't get one without the other, jacking AMSs is a blast)
Air Cav
Possibly the tank cert, especially with adv hacking. Find a buddy, both cert in the Vanguard and squad up all the time. Take turns driving and gunning, once you get good you'll rack up xp. Make sure your buddy gets engineering as well, both of you fixing the tank in the field is imperative. When your buddy isn't around you get the chance to kill tank crews repairing their tank in the field, and jack their ride away from them. Nice feeling of satisfaction there.

For implants I recommend Enhanced Targetting (You can't put a price on finding somebody in the field that will take one stab without secondary mode, total silent assassin that almost nobody notices). Also, if you do get the tank cert then enhanced targetting is pretty much necessary. As an added bonus it doesn't drain stamina so you can use it all the time. Since you'll have CE, keep an eye on tanks which are getting close to dying and make a run right up to them to lay a mine under their treads. Now run like hell, cause it's gonna hurt bad when it blows up.
Surge is about to get changed around, so the third implant will probably be smarter to have Silent Run or whatever they're gonna call it. I haven't bothered with that on the test server, so can't really say for sure.

[EarlyDawn]

Oh, and if you have engineering, a nice cloaker support loadout would be a BANK, some grenades (Plasmas, maybe some jammers) 1 tube of extra glue, a REK and a gun with no extra ammo. If your teammates need repair, patch them, otherwise, follow them and provide support with grenades.

[SurrealBeingXX]

sweet advice guys, thx much

[ZeroRaven]

Yes, thanks alot, i'll give these idea a try and hopefully you'll see the stats in my sig skyrocket. I'll let you know how it goes tonight. Feel free to add more, can never know too much.

[HawkEye]

yea get atv. and boot bomers and med packs in the trunk. so when u get to a base or tower and u need to refiil u can hit up ur cloaked wraith.

[Queensidecastle]

If you want to kill people, dont waste your time with the AMP. Get Medium assault and use the Spiker

[flypengy]

Also i would drop the devil dogs for a better outfit alot of peopel i know in it are getting sick of it.

Do not go around talking smack about outfits. 666th still is in the #1 spot for outfit members so I wouldn't go telling people to get out cause people don't like it...

Zeroraven, if you need help with infil, let me know. I play on Markov, so just send me a /tell and I'll help you out. If exp is what you want, CE is not the way to go, boomering freshly spawned people will not help you.

Outdoor battles, use grenades. Two direct hits with a plasma grenade will bring down any infantry (it normally takes 3 for a rexo). Indoor battles use an amp or scatterpistol. Scatterpistol can take down an agile in two shots (every single pellet has to hit), but with only 6 shots it does not afford you much of an opportunity to miss. Amp is good also, 30 shots and will cut people down quickly.

Do not drop aircavalry, and if you decide to, just drop it for mosquito. atv is the most worthless cert there is. The wraith's cloaking ability is nice, but one mine will end your drive. With the mosquito you can drop into places easily (and quickly since it is the fastest transportation). Mosquito requires no tech (just like) atv, but it will also serve a second purpose and let you kill things which with atv you will not be able to do (the basilisk just will not compare to a mosquito.

I really recommend medic for infils. With no armor it is very easy to die (one plasma or one shotgun shot and you're dead). If you can't afford the 3 certs for it, loot medkits from corpses. I personally can not afford medic (I prefer advanc hack), so I just hack out more medkits for myself.

Again, feel free to send me a tell in game (flypengy) I'm always willing to help someone out.

[Madcow]

Zeroraven, if you need help with infil, let me know. I play on Markov, so just send me a /tell and I'll help you out. If exp is what you want, CE is not the way to go, boomering freshly spawned people will not help you.

Why do people assume that's all that infil are using CE for? CE is great for xp out in the field, I try to be outside structures as much as possible and CE opens a lot up. See that MAX? One mine, dead. Probably 600-700 xp. See that fully manned Prowler with the flashing headlights? One mine, dead. Probably 2500 or so xp. The proper use of Spitfires will take down any reinforced, no problem. It's a lot of fun to kill in the infil suit, and I rarely use boomers at all. The most common time I'll even use a boomer is running by a tank with the repair crew standing outside it, do a fly-by and drop it down, kill everybody standing outside the tank. Yeah, I'll use it when I get stuck inside but it's pretty rare. I get xp at a much faster rate in the infil suit than as a standard grunt, and I get more kills as well. It's all in people's playstyle.

[flypengy]

Why do people assume that's all that infil are using CE for? CE is great for xp out in the field, I try to be outside structures as much as possible and CE opens a lot up. See that MAX? One mine, dead. Probably 600-700 xp. See that fully manned Prowler with the flashing headlights? One mine, dead. Probably 2500 or so xp. The proper use of Spitfires will take down any reinforced, no problem. It's a lot of fun to kill in the infil suit, and I rarely use boomers at all. The most common time I'll even use a boomer is running by a tank with the repair crew standing outside it, do a fly-by and drop it down, kill everybody standing outside the tank. Yeah, I'll use it when I get stuck inside but it's pretty rare. I get xp at a much faster rate in the infil suit than as a standard grunt, and I get more kills as well. It's all in people's playstyle.

Wow, happening to almost find a dead prowler and being lucky enough to mine it and kill all of them inside before anyone else... or... keep air cav (which has reaver) and be the one that brings down a fully manned prowler by yourself and kills it for the 3000k exp. Sorry, reaver is better for exp than ce will ever be. I don't care how you use it.

[Madcow]

Wow, happening to almost find a dead prowler and being lucky enough to mine it and kill all of them inside before anyone else... or... keep air cav (which has reaver) and be the one that brings down a fully manned prowler by yourself and kills it for the 3000k exp. Sorry, reaver is better for exp than ce will ever be. I don't care how you use it.

Very little is 'happening' to find things. It takes paying attention and it takes logic, but finding repair areas is actually not that difficult. And my example of a gimped Prowler was one that was easy for a first time cloaker to use. Personally, I take on (and blow up) fully manned tanks fairly regularly, and many of them are barely hurt when I start. Sure, it rapes my inventory but I'll take that every time. It's pretty satisfying to single-handedly blow up that tank or that AMS when all you are is the hard to see guy running around with no armor. Reaver is decent for xp, I personally am not a big fan of it. Not everybody is, a lot of people fail to recognize that. Once again, I can get more xp in the infil suit with CE than just about any other config I've tried (Vanguard being the lone exception). A good CE infil is the most potent AV in the game, period.

[flypengy]

Really? I've never heard of 5 mines taking out a tank. So... *sniff* *sniff* I smell bullshit?

I guarantee you my reaver is greater av than you running around with ace's.

[ZeroRaven]

Whoa, fellas calm down. I appreciate the advice from both of you, i'll just have to get more practice is all. Flypengy, i'll definately send you a tell next time i'm on, having a seasoned stealther helping in game would seriously rock. Basically, my main problem while playing a stealther is being seen. I see a nme and hold still, when he walks up to me, i guess his sights must confirm i'm there or something and he blows me away. Either that or i see a guy, run up behind him and he whips around and i'm looking down the barrel of a minigun or something. If i can aviod being seen, i could pwn this game.

[ZeroRaven]

I dropped the Air Cav cert and picked up CE and ATV, and i see now that ATV does suck. I'm not the red baron or anything, but I do have more success in the air than on the ground. As soon as i get my next BR i'll pick up the skeeter cert.

One question though: is there a way to configure vehicles to have a saved inventory in the trunk so when you get another one, all the stuff is already there? It gets old as hell having to restock only to get wasted and do it again.

[Madcow]

Really? I've never heard of 5 mines taking out a tank. So... *sniff* *sniff* I smell bullshit?

I guarantee you my reaver is greater av than you running around with ace's.

4 mines will blow an AMS or a fully healthy Magrider. 5 will pop a Prowler. Vanguard is the only tank which (fully healthy) takes more than 5 mines. So *sniff* *sniff* I smell somebody talking out of his ass. Maybe you should have tried mines a bit more since they buffed them?

Talking crap works so much better when you know what you're talking about. Trust me.

[flypengy]

9735836 that's my accumulated exp on my main account.

When you can actually get it so that it shows your total exp, then you're opnion on kills/exp might mean something to me.

Once again, I guarantee you that reaver is > you running around with 5 ACE's. If you actually find a mag/prowler, that stands completely still while you put mines around it (a full prowler like you were bragging about) then you have found the most retarded people in this game.

Get a clue. If anyone actually believes that your br17 cr1 no skilled 1500 kills ass can pull something like that off, then they've some how managed to be dumber than you. The guy isn't asking how to do the impossible, he's asking how to get exp. So don't pull retarded schemes out of your ass.

So quit talking out of your ass. You obviously are not a hardcore player (dicepoint shows you haven't even played in nearly a month), why don't you leave advice giving to people that actually have something logical to say. You should probably making posts like this guy yourself. For all the nonsense you're talking about, you definitely need help with the game.

[ZeroRaven]

/sigh

ZeroRaven: Bringing the war striaght from the game right to your front door.

[Madcow]

9735836 that's my accumulated exp on my main account.

When you can actually get it so that it shows your total exp, then you're opnion on kills/exp might mean something to me.

Once again, I guarantee you that reaver is > you running around with 5 ACE's. If you actually find a mag/prowler, that stands completely still while you put mines around it (a full prowler like you were bragging about) then you have found the most retarded people in this game.

Get a clue. If anyone actually believes that your br17 cr1 no skilled 1500 kills ass can pull something like that off, then they've some how managed to be dumber than you. The guy isn't asking how to do the impossible, he's asking how to get exp. So don't pull retarded schemes out of your ass.

Wow, you've insulted one of my 4 characters. That hurts. It was a nice dodge attempt, though. Let's do the play by play again, shall we? I talk about blowing up tanks with mines, you claim it can't be done, I contradict with facts, you try to act like your pile of xp means anything other than you spend too much time playing the game. That about covers it, right?
2 mines for a light buggy. 3 for a heavy buggy or a lightning. Impossible? I guess if you suck it is, but even 5 mines for a fully manned Prowler can (and has) been done repeatedly. It's certainly easier (and worth the running time) to wait for the retreat to the repair zone, and I spend more time doing it that way, but that doesn't change the fact that it can be done pretty consistently.
Maybe if you spent more time in the game actually trying out new things you'd know what damage the mines did. Of course, given the inordinate amount of game time you're obviously playing I wouldn't want you to somehow have to go outside your comfort zone.
C'mon, you can say it. I was right. You were wrong. It's really easy, and makes you look like far less of a puss than trying to change the subject and showing off your penis envy.

[Madcow]

/sigh

ZeroRaven: Bringing the war striaght from the game right to your front door.

No worries, Zero. Nothing at all to do with you. This hasn't even escalated into a true flame war yet, this is just foreplay.

[flypengy]

Yes, I'm claiming it can't be done. Rather I shouldn't say it can't but for xeroraven's question it is not a feasible way to get exp. What you say you do (I by no means buy your bullshit) has to be the worst ways to get bep in this game. The simple matter is CE is slow to get bep and is very meticulous.

Pointing out my character is by no means a dodge to what you say. So you say it takes 4 mines to kill a mag... while I still don't believe you I'm not here to argue how many mines it takes to kill something, that's for some other retarded thread on these forums. I'm on this thread to help xeroraven know how to best achieve exp as an infil, and CE is not the way. I pointed my character out to show that the simple fact that I'm on the leaderboard for exp should say something about my ability to exp/kill whore. See that VS character in my sig? That's pretty much one weekend's work. (Though I created it long ago). Care to point out all of you characters? I'll happily refer to each one of mine and we can compare. Or we can have a contest. We each create a charcter. You infil with you're retarded mines on damaged prowlers trick, and I'll just run around with amps and grenades and we'll see who can kill more in an hour?

And don't try to bring real life into this... that has to be the most retarded thing people ever do on forums. It's like two nerds bickering about who is cooler. I work (at a restaurant), go to school (12hrs), date, and still find time to drink on the weekends. Do I play planetside a lot? Yes, but it also helps that I only need 4hrs of sleep a night to be fully rested.

[flypengy]

I'm not going to start flaming either. You're the one trying to bring personal lives in to this and bring me somehow below you. Quit treating a discussion on worthless forums like it's real life, trying to bring people down online just saddens me, because you don't know me so all attempts to try to judge who I am are laughable.

[Madcow]

Really? I've never heard of 5 mines taking out a tank. So... *sniff* *sniff* I smell bullshit?

So you say it takes 4 mines to kill a mag... while I still don't believe you I'm not here to argue how many mines it takes to kill something, that's for some other retarded thread on these forums.

Talk out your ass much? Let's take a look back at exactly who brought up the idea of how many mines it takes to kill a tank. Oh, that's right. It was you! Imagine that. I'm sure you're just as shocked as I am.

Bringing up the amount of time you play Planetside is a direct response to you trying to point at your overall xp as if it amounts to a damn thing. Your flailing about trying to validate the time in game (as well as showing how amazingly socially rounded you are) does nothing but prove the point sticks when you'd rather it didn't. It's also rather amusing the way you're advising somebody about infiltrating when the vast majority of your kills were with the Jackhammer, something the individual has already stated they are staying away from.
And please, while we're talking about bullshit let's not pretend that your VS character's 2k+ kills all happened over a weekend. We've already shown that you spend an inordinate amount of time on the game, which is certainly your right, but I saw that character on Emerald for a few weeks. I saw the name in the killspam when I logged on, and it was still in the killspam when I logged off. Granted, I'm only playing 2-3 hours a few nights a week and don't come close to the hardcore approach, but there were few nights I didn't come across the name whenever I did log on.
If you think there are better ways to infil and get xp, more power to you. I'm just some guy with 4 chars who probably only has 5k or so kills between them all. I don't play every day and I don't put in the same hours. I have, however, done almost strictly infil from the beginning and have found exactly the playstyle that maximizes my BEP. If it wouldn't work for you, great. No big deal to me. The fact of the matter is one of the two of us wasn't even aware (and still refuses to accept) damage numbers for a weapon we're talking about. How about you spend 30 minutes of the ton of time you'll be playing in the next week and try out mines? How about after that you get back to me and let me know how many mines it takes to kill different items, since I'm so full of shit? I'd love to see exactly how you handle admitting being wrong, although I do doubt you have the stones to do it.

[Baneblade]

Angrymoo, according to Dicepoint in 6 days of play, pengy got 2444 kills, and one of those days he got 1161...

=/

[flypengy]

Why are you bringing up posts from long ago? I got from br 11 to br 18 in one weekend. I played very occasionally during the week, so there is no way you saw me all week playing when you logged on and when you logged off. If you want ot ask the person I was duo'ing with, feel free to. I started on friday of last weekend and stopped playing it on sunday (hardcore).

My life is my own. If you really would like to try and tell me about how I'm a loser for whatever I do then feel free to, I really don't care what some anonymous person says about my personal life (and you have no clue what my life is, so please do not talk like you know). Every time you make mention of it really shows me that your argument is nothing but moronic put downs and holding on to the same argument (which I could care less about). I really don't care how many mines it takes to kill something, why would I? I don't enjoy driving anything, and doing CE is monitonous.

Most of my kills are not from the JH, they are from reaver, which is what I'm telling him to keep instead of CE. Kills = bep. Do not act like you know my playstyle, because you really don't. Trying to make assumptions about me is not very smart. Most of the other skilled players on markov would tell you that I'm not all that great of a grunt and I admit it.

I have done CE, I don't care for it. I don't know how many mines it takes to take out mags, prowlers, flails, sunderers, and deliverers. After spending that whole weekend playing my vs (a ton of that time of which I was driving a mag) I remain skeptical as to the amount of mines you claim it takes to take down a mag.

So... let me get to my point. Quit making stupid preschool arguments about what a loser I am because I play planetside more than you (would you make fun of me too because I chose to spend most of my time in high school swimming on a team, or do you just think that people that spend more time than you on something are some how below you?), quit trying to argue about how many mines it takes to kill something (I really could care less, your mines will never kill me with your lame 'tactic'), and try arguing what I repeatedly bring up....

Reaver and mosquito are better at getting bep than running around trying to find injured vehicles and putting mines next to them.

*waits for another pathetic post about what a loser I am for playing planetside more than him*

(btw you were right, I didn't get 2000+ kills in one weekend I got 1500+)

[Madcow]

Angrymoo, according to Dicepoint in 6 days of play, pengy got 2444 kills, and one of those days he got 1161...

=/

Actually, the 1161 kills was over a 4 day period. It appears he was most likely between outfits at the time, but it could also be just a Dice hiccup. As a matter of fact, it looks like the kills pretty much happened over the course of a few weeks which is exactly the amount of time I said I saw him in the game whenever I logged on. No matter in the long run, it's all the same. Pengy has lots of kills and plays more than the average person. Pengy and I have different playstyles. Personally I feel like all of these are much less the point than trying to rip on something that your brutally ignorant about, but that's just me.

[flypengy]

I made on saying about how I thought you were wrong, you're the one that keeps ripping on me about it. I've repeatedly mentioned that I am skeptical, and being skeptical would mean that I don't know. You have a hard on to point out this same thing over and over, along with the fact that I play more than you (which apparently makes me lower than you). You refuse to argue my point.

Reaver and mosq > than running around as infil trying to find damaged tanks

(And now you're claiming you saw me play over the course of several weeks, so now I know you're really spouting nonsense, and that is not a dicepoint hicup. I was never in an outfit until a few days before this past weekend)

[Baneblade]

His Outfit Points fit playing 6 days, if there are some missing days, its prolly cause Dicepoint was down...

So even if he got them in 10 days, I dont even get that a month...

[Madcow]

Why are you bringing up posts from long ago? I got from br 11 to br 18 in one weekend. I played very occasionally during the week, so there is no way you saw me all week playing when you logged on and when you logged off. If you want ot ask the person I was duo'ing with, feel free to. I started on friday of last weekend and stopped playing it on sunday (hardcore).

Okay, 11 to 18 in a weekend. That's cool. I'm glad you had the time to put in to do that, that's wonderful. Have a cookie.

My life is my own. If you really would like to try and tell me about how I'm a loser for whatever I do then feel free to, I really don't care what some anonymous person says about my personal life (and you have no clue what my life is, so please do not talk like you know). Every time you make mention of it really shows me that your argument is nothing but moronic put downs and holding on to the same argument (which I could care less about). I really don't care how many mines it takes to kill something, why would I? I don't enjoy driving anything, and doing CE is monitonous.

Obviously the life comments bother you, so I'll apologize. See, it's not that hard to do. I apologize for bringing something up that seems to bother you as you keep responding to it. The idea that this one point makes my argument moronic, whereas your comments which showcased your ignorance about the very item we were discussing somehow does not make your argument moronic, well...I'll let you work that one out.

Okay, you don't care how many mines it takes to kill something. CE does not mesh with your playstyle. Fair enough. Then again, to say (just because you don't enjoy it) that it doesn't work for xp or is worthless, well again that's just blind.

Most of my kills are not from the JH, they are from reaver, which is what I'm telling him to keep instead of CE. Kills = bep. Do not act like you know my playstyle, because you really don't. Trying to make assumptions about me is not very smart. Most of the other skilled players on markov would tell you that I'm not all that great of a grunt and I admit it.

None of my comments have been based on assumption. I have seen you on Markov with one character and seen you on Emerald with another character. To the best of my knowledge we've only battled once, a dogfight which I won almost certainly because you were gimped when I got to you. I have, however, noticed your name in the killspam on Markov with a Jackhammer next to it far more often than anything else. I guess I just happened to catch you at the wrong times.

I have done CE, I don't care for it. I don't know how many mines it takes to take out mags, prowlers, flails, sunderers, and deliverers. After spending that whole weekend playing my vs (a ton of that time of which I was driving a mag) I remain skeptical as to the amount of mines you claim it takes to take down a mag.

Okay, now we're back to the meat of the matter. You don't care for CE, no big deal. You admit to not knowing how many mines it takes to kill things, but then turn around and in as nice a way as possible call bullshit on me once again. You can't help yourself. You keep mentioning how it doesn't matter to you how many mines it takes, but every time you have to punctuate it with calling bullshit on me regarding a matter I'm pretty well versed in and which you admit you know jack shit about. I say again, sacrifice 30 minutes of your next play session, get CE and get back to me. Until you know what you're talking about, you really should just shut up about the mines. Saying "I don't care" about the mines begins to lose it's force the 30th time you turn around and tell me I'm obviously wrong about how many mines it takes to kill things.

So... let me get to my point. Quit making stupid preschool arguments about what a loser I am because I play planetside more than you (would you make fun of me too because I chose to spend most of my time in high school swimming on a team, or do you just think that people that spend more time than you on something are some how below you?), quit trying to argue about how many mines it takes to kill something (I really could care less, your mines will never kill me with your lame 'tactic'), and try arguing what I repeatedly bring up....

Now you'll get to your point? Wow.

At no point in time have I ripped you for playing PS quite a bit. I did rip you for pointing to your xp as if it meant shit, because all it truly does mean is that you play more than other people do. You choose to spend your free time, or at least a good chunk of it, playing the game. Whatever. I don't really care how you spend your extra time. I don't think that it somehow makes you the be-all, end-all of PS knowledge, however. I don't play nearly as much as you and I'm still able to provide information you don't know about. That's the point. Get it? Or do you want to flex your kill count some more?

And once again you bring up not caring about the mines. It is hard to admit you're wrong, isn't it? Some people see it as a weakness, whereas other people believe it takes a big man to admit it. Obviously you'd rather duck the issue and continue to pretend that you're not wrong and that you're too apathetic about being not wrong to prove it. Go ahead, prove that I'm full of shit. I'll be here.

Reaver and mosquito are better at getting bep than running around trying to find injured vehicles and putting mines next to them.

*waits for another pathetic post about what a loser I am for playing planetside more than him*

(btw you were right, I didn't get 2000+ kills in one weekend I got 1500+)

If I keep giving you cookies you're going to get fat.

[Madcow]

I made on saying about how I thought you were wrong, you're the one that keeps ripping on me about it. I've repeatedly mentioned that I am skeptical, and being skeptical would mean that I don't know. You have a hard on to point out this same thing over and over, along with the fact that I play more than you (which apparently makes me lower than you). You refuse to argue my point.

Reaver and mosq > than running around as infil trying to find damaged tanks

That's your point? Okay, let me see if I can somehow refute this watertight argument. Let me try this:

For you, reaver and mosq > than running around as infil trying to find damaged tanks

For me, reaver and mosq < than running around as infil trying to find damaged tanks

Whew, that was tough. I hope somebody can double check my math for me.

(And now you're claiming you saw me play over the course of several weeks, so now I know you're really spouting nonsense, and that is not a dicepoint hicup. I was never in an outfit until a few days before this past weekend)

Er, you don't have to be in an outfit in order to play the game Pengy. You do have to be in an outfit for Dice to pull your stats. Thus the 4 day gap between it pulling your stats and the 1100 or so kills all being credited to a single day.

Oh, and btw. Dice pulled your stats on 12/1, and 2/26 before beginning to pull when your character got more active at the end of March. Again, Dice doesn't pull stats unless you're in an outfit. But you still weren't in an outfit until a few days before this past weekend? Naughty Dicepoint...

[ZeroRaven]

So um, how bout them.....um.....Yankees! Yea, they play that sport with the bases and balls, what the bloody hell is it called? Oh well, how bout em?

Btw does anyone have a answer to my vehicle trunk question?

[Baneblade]

I suddenly have the desire to make some CR5pam...

[Madcow]

So um, how bout them.....um.....Yankees! Yea, they play that sport with the bases and balls, what the bloody hell is it called? Oh well, how bout em?

Btw does anyone have a answer to my vehicle trunk question?

There is no way to save a favorite like that with vehicles (we all wish). You can save vehicle favorites so that if the vehicle repair/rearm silos are active you can pull right up to them, choose your favorite and off you go. Unfortunately you'll find the silos aren't active most of the time. If you do go air cav, it's a lot easier to find a nearby air tower and pull your favorite that way. Ground vehicles have no such luck.

[flypengy]

Well, I'm going to leave this post (for my nonexistent life) just laying the fact that 4 mines does not take out a mag. I just went and tried on emerald. It does substantial damage of course since the mines buff, but it does not destroy it or even disable it.

You were wrong, and I was right.

The end.

[Baneblade]

If you have the Dropship Center they work, if you dont they dont...

[flypengy]

Btw does anyone have a answer to my vehicle trunk question?


If there is a dropship center, you can. Put whatever items you want in your trunk and then go to the repair silo and save it to one of the 5 favorites. As long as you have a dropship or lodestar you'll be able to pull up that exact same favorite (with medkits or whatever you may have put in there).

[Madcow]

Well, I'm going to leave this post (for my nonexistent life) just laying the fact that 4 mines does not take out a mag. I just went and tried on emerald. It does substantial damage of course since the mines buff, but it does not destroy it or even disable it.

You were wrong, and I was right.

The end.

Then you obviously did not lay the mines correctly, I do it all the time. Because of the dodgy mine damage you pretty well need to make sure that the mines are under the mag itself. A mag driving over 4 mines may survive. A mag which I am mining will not. Good try, though.

[Baneblade]

Make a video of it...

Its rather hard to believe...

[Madcow]

Make a video of it...

Its rather hard to believe...

Oi, download FRAPS just to prove this point? I have a better idea, I'll just keep doing it and you guys just keep not believing it. That we we can all stay in our happy places, and that way I won't have to stop being lazy in order to placate you.

[ZeroRaven]

Well pengy, i'll look you up in game. It's pretty clear that the two of you are very experienced players, and i hope to have your skill one day.

[Baneblade]

Oi, download FRAPS just to prove this point? I have a better idea, I'll just keep doing it and you guys just keep not believing it. That we we can all stay in our happy places, and that way I won't have to stop being lazy in order to placate you.
Well next chance I get I'll go try it out myself...

[Queensidecastle]

Just to jump in here with my opinion and experiences. Flypengy is correct in respect to a Reaver being vastly superrior in gaining kills and XP as compared to CE. However his attempts to discredit Madcow's arguments about mining vehicles are baseless.

Having spent the majority of my time in Planetside playing an Infiltrator I know exactly how to exploit vehicle repair zones and how fast you can deploy CE if you know what the hell you are doing. If you ever chased after an Infil and then got punked when he dropped a turret or boomer on you then you were dealing with a CE master. These people are good at what they do. Very good. There is a huge difference between a master infiltrator with all the associated certs and some jackass that spent 2 points for the suit who likes to try to kill ppl with an AMP. I know for a fact what Madcow describes is perfectly viable and indeed possible and common enough to use as a primary strat. I havent played since the mine buff but I do know from my many months as an infiltrator how available enemy vehicles are on the battlefield and understand thier vulerabilities.

Personally I think using a Spiker is so far above anything else from a killing perspective that its absurd to consider anything else if you want xp or kill count but I realize some people like to assassinate in an indirect way. I think the core of the argument is that while flying a reaver all day is certainly best for kill count and XP, it has zero to do with anything infiltrator related. I believe the original poster wanted ways to make XP as an infiltrator and not be forced into vehicle dependency

[flypengy]

The day one of these 'master infiltrators' pulls something like what the two of you describe on me, then I'll stop thinking there is more than just bullshit being thrown around in this thread.

CE is not good for exp, I don't care how damn good you think you are. You're better off with an amp or grenades than running around trying to find damaged tanks to put mines next to them. You people just sound retarded to me saying otherwise, and since stubborness seems to go hand in hand with stupidity I'm done with this thread.

My offer still stands, you think you're so damn good at running around putting mines next to vehicles. I will start a new character with just infil (and just use amp) and you can run around with your retarded mines and we'll see who gets more kills/exp for whatever period of time. Contact me in game if you want to do more than just talk shit and actually put what you're saying to the test.

[Madcow]

AMP is crap since the rexo buff. You're much better off with melee booster and a knife, but since you're obviously the expert I'll just have to bow down to your incredible infil exploits.
Besides the amazingly obvious flaws in your challenge idea, I'm in a beta at the moment which eats away at the few hours I do game. I haven't been to Planetside in the last week and can't really tell you when I'll be there again. If I'm bored enough when (if) I come back, I'll think about it then I guess. Of course, because of the enormous flaws I'm hard put to figure out what it would prove regardless of who got more kills.
By the way, keep calling bullshit. You came back with gusto today, by the end of yesterday the wind was pretty much out of your sails. It sucks to not know what you're talking about, but you seem able to not know what you're talking about with passion. In the meantime I'll just have to live with knowledge and experience, and I'll just have to live with exactly how highly I hold the opinions of those who just don't know what the hell they're talking about.

[Queensidecastle]

Sounds to me like Pengy needs to lay off the hot sauce. No offense intended Pengy but, while I agree that CE is not the best way to make xp, dont make the mistake in thinking that there are not people on this forum that know a fuckload more than you do about playing an Infiltrator. You can most defenatly do what Madcow is describing so I just suggest you stop arguing about that possibility. Now whether you can make good XP doing it is certainly debatable. When playing an Infiltrator, short of using the Spiker, using CE is the best way to make XP. Of course if you are using vehicles such as a Reaver, thats a different topic entirely and not infiltration

[flypengy]

Argue all you want with your unfeasible logic.

Spending your time looking for damaged tanks to kill them with mines is not the best way to get exp as an infil.

I really don't care how eloquently your forum trolling ass states it, you are a moron for thinking that.

I'm done with this thread, if you really have something so assanine engrained in your head, then wasting any more of my time here would be somehow stupider than your ill placed logic.

No offense to you queenside, but my experience with these forums is they are a bunch of noobs that like to think they know everything there is about this game (yet most of the tards don't play/hardly play). Keep posting here guys, because talking about the game is the same as playing it and truly knowing it...

*hates people that try to talk big online like their opinion matters*

[Madcow]

Argue all you want with your unfeasible logic.

Spending your time looking for damaged tanks to kill them with mines is not the best way to get exp as an infil.

Did I say that was the only way I was getting xp? Have I not mentioned (repeatedly) other uses for CE, as well as my own personal preference for using the knife? The fact is, you're stuck on the idea that people are able to use mines as offensive weapons rather than just setting up defense. Your brain can't wrap around it, so you focus on that rather than listening to everything else being said.

I really don't care how eloquently your forum trolling ass states it, you are a moron for thinking that.

Remember back in the day when you weren't going to 'sink to my level' and engage in personal attacks? Being consistent is wicked hard, isn't it?

I'm done with this thread, if you really have something so assanine engrained in your head, then wasting any more of my time here would be somehow stupider than your ill placed logic.

See, you only get to say you're done with the thread once. Every time you say it after that first time is just more lip service. Them's the breaks kid. See my previous comment on consistency.

No offense to you queenside, but my experience with these forums is they are a bunch of noobs that like to think they know everything there is about this game (yet most of the tards don't play/hardly play). Keep posting here guys, because talking about the game is the same as playing it and truly knowing it...

*hates people that try to talk big online like their opinion matters*

Hahahahahahaahahaha! So you're engaging in self-loathing in front of everybody? As far as I can see, you think your opinion is very valuable, regardless of the fact that you couldn't actually come up with facts to refute mine. You even show how valuable your opinion is online just like the people you hate. Amazing. The only thing consistent I see is your hypocrisy which you wave like a flag in front of you.

It's such a shame you're done with this thread, right when I was about to see the error of my ways.

[drsomewhere]

LOL dont stop fighting now! I Just got back with my popcorn, please continue!

[Baneblade]

Well I gotta admit that even if pengy isnt the most knowledgeable about cloakers, at least he is offering to prove his point...

Angrymoo here wont 'lower' himself to proving he can do what he says...

[Madcow]

Well I gotta admit that even if pengy isnt the most knowledgeable about cloakers, at least he is offering to prove his point...

Angrymoo here wont 'lower' himself to proving he can do what he says...

I should waste time proving something that another cloaker has already said can be done? To placate you (who isn't actually playing the game) and Pengy (who is being stubborn for the sake of stubborness at this point)? And how should I do this? FRAPS? I've yet to see the footage of Pengy's 4 mines not destroying a Magrider which he says he tried, and yet you are happy to give him credit for offering to prove his point. Or is it the 'challenge' that I'm not graciously accepting that you're referring to? The challenge in which there would be no way to prove how kills were garnered by each individual, the challenge which would put more emphasis on individual kills rather than xp (blowing up 1 Prowler would most likely net me as much xp as him killing 20+ soldiers), the challenge in which individual skill would have as much say in the outcome as the actual means with which we were killing? How in the world could somebody not see the truck sized flaws in the 'challenge'?

I never said anything about lowering myself, I mentioned that I was lazy. And I am.

[ZeroRaven]

LOL not bad for my first thread. Maybe i should start selling tickets for forum fights or something, i'd make a killing.

[Baneblade]

I dun recall four mines blowing up any Mags when I was playing, my Enforcer hurt after two, but din die...

So how can a Mag die in four?

[drsomewhere]

I'll buy, how much?

[flypengy]

Just made a fraps video. It took 6 mines to disable a mag. If anyone knows where I can host it, I will happily upload it.

[Baneblade]

Eka is on MSN, he should be able to do it

[Madcow]

I dun recall four mines blowing up any Mags when I was playing, my Enforcer hurt after two, but din die...

So how can a Mag die in four?

Have you played since the mine buff? Thought you hadn't played for months.

[Madcow]

For what it's worth, my buddy is telling me I'm crazy as well and is actually getting me to doubt myself. He's saying 5 mines (which a cloaker could still carry), which is what I used to think it was but I've had success enough times with 4 that I've been positive it's been 4. Now I'm wondering if targets were taking damage from other sources as I was mining, but I don't think so.

[Baneblade]

Have you played since the mine buff? Thought you hadn't played for months.
I haven't played Active since January 30th, but I was on a friend's account long enough to get a BR15 by the name PanzerCommander who I played from my account's closing till beginning of March...

[Queensidecastle]

I seriously hope that Magrider did not have full shields, cause that would be super gay

[flypengy]

Yep, it had full shields and I constantly paused and repaired it then renewed recording, but shhhh

[aiwest420]

One question though: is there a way to configure vehicles to have a saved inventory in the trunk so when you get another one, all the stuff is already there? It gets old as hell having to restock only to get wasted and do it again.

Yea, it's pretty easy. Load all the equip you want into the trunk, then go save it at a repair silo (you need to own a dropship center).

Once you get your vehicle, load the favorite from an airpad or repair silo (again, you will need a dropship center or air tower).

Hope that helps ;)


[edit]Didn't even notice the 2nd page, your question was already answered twice, lol. oh well..