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Mag-Mower
2004-04-05, 11:59 AM
Ok, I was wondering if a pheonix would be a good cert to get, they dont do alot of damage in VR, but i heard that they do alot of damage. I was just wondring if i could get some clarification...
Baneblade
2004-04-05, 12:02 PM
Only infantry non AI weapon more powerful per shot is the Decimator...
drsomewhere
2004-04-05, 01:27 PM
plus, phoenix is effective against infantry taking cover behind rocks, trees, etc.
Batousai
2004-04-05, 03:37 PM
ive had the phoenix since i started playing and i haven't got rid of it yet, so there your answer.
in other words, Yea, get it. :groovy:
Rbstr
2004-04-05, 04:38 PM
The phoenix does shit for damage agains infantry thogh it can scarethem to running out of cover.
It is very nice agains maxes outdoors(3 hit kill), and same with vechs, near useless indoors however do to its huge reload, and against Air becasue it fles slower than a reaver. But the phoenix is very fun to use, and i like Batousai have had it scince the begining, even before i had rexo
JakeLogan
2004-04-05, 05:35 PM
The pheonix pisses me off on how some people use for AI. but yeah it's a good weapon.
Eldanesh
2004-04-05, 06:44 PM
It is a great weapon, however out of all the AV it has by a huge margin the slowest ttk. Thus it lends itself to groups, however for agile armor, deci works better.
scarpas
2004-04-05, 07:00 PM
i quickly want to comfirm something, as the pheonix can use darklight while flying, does darklight show ams bubbles? i think that is a reason why the nc have beed finding our amses faster than the vanu.
Baneblade
2004-04-05, 07:09 PM
i quickly want to comfirm something, as the pheonix can use darklight while flying, does darklight show ams bubbles? i think that is a reason why the nc have beed finding our amses faster than the vanu.
I never even bothered to try that...hehe...
Lartnev
2004-04-05, 07:27 PM
Darklight shows you the insides of an AMS bubble if you are close enough.
Madcow
2004-04-05, 07:27 PM
i quickly want to comfirm something, as the pheonix can use darklight while flying, does darklight show ams bubbles? i think that is a reason why the nc have beed finding our amses faster than the vanu.
I doubt it, but don't know for sure. Enhanced targetting does not work using the Phoenix so I was operating under the assumption that the other implants would not either, but I haven't had DL for a bit.
I love the Phoenix. Don't currently have it, don't get lots of kills with it, but it's still a great amount of fun. There are very few things that are fun to do in PS without getting xp as a reward, the Phoenix can be one of them.
Baneblade
2004-04-05, 08:49 PM
Darklight shows you the insides of an AMS bubble if you are close enough.
Also shows you the outside when you are inside...
UncleDynamite
2004-04-05, 09:35 PM
While the Phoenix has some pretty notable drawbacks, it has many more advantages. So yeah, I'd go for it. Now I'll have one more Phoenix user to evade...
oddfish
2004-04-05, 10:16 PM
It was one of the first certs I picked up. That puppy has saved my ass on more than one occasion and I've racked up so many MAX kills it's absurd. It's a MAX's worst nightmare in my opinion. Anyways, the Phoenix is a really good weapon. If you're at a point where you're choosing between HA or AV and you're on the NC, pick AV ASAP. TR and VS think NC that have AV are SOB's and they want to nerf the phoenix. In my opinion, they need to MYOB, and they can all STFU, MF's.
now, for those of you TR and VS that are devoid senses of humor, I strongly suggest you calm down and take your blood pressure medication before flaming me. In fact, here, have some NC sunshine. :love:
Batousai
2004-04-06, 09:10 AM
The Darklight implant does work with the Phoenix but you cant see shit in front of you so your kinda flying blind. Its by luck if you find a AMS bubble using it. Besides its easier to use common sense and shoot a Phoenix in the direction were most of the baddies are coming from. :groovy:
In the world of blind men, the one eyed man is king.
SilverLord
2004-04-06, 11:00 AM
Darklight DOES show enemy AMS's if you flicker it. It doesn't just show up and stay there. It pops out at you then goes back to inviso mode.
Cryptica
2004-04-06, 12:23 PM
Yeah I love the pheonix. In terms of real combat I almost never get the chance to use it, though. I prefer the deci if I have to pick one. However, it is a TON of fun, and its amazing how many vanu maxes get pissed off when I 3-shot kill them while they think they're safe in their tree top or on a tower post. Muahahahahah!!! Time to die, all you vanu bastards!! I hate you all!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA--HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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DeadTeddy
2004-04-06, 05:15 PM
I love it, it's just fun. it's been a few months since I used it and I can still hear the locked TR MAXs' *umf* when it hits them. you can hide somewhere, and shoot someone else who's hiding. you can hit an ams that's under one of those "bridges" between the main base building and the sides, you can fly through a tower door and hit a max on the other side.
my guess about NC finding your AMS's faster is that with the nix you can trace the endless flow of soldiers to it's source, and if it looks like they're comming from nowhere hit a suspicious spot. not that much of an advantage, but still a nice spy plane.
Nereid
2004-04-07, 08:50 AM
The striker may be the best AV with the shortest ttk I think (if they ever fix its lock on bug) but it certainly isnt the most enjoyable. I find myself looting pheonixes just for the pure fun of using them. You can be on the other side of a mountain fire it and arc it all the way into an enimey base and smack a MAX in the courtyard. Now with the AV ammo buff I can enjoy them even more now as I can get up to around 28 missles off a corpse and start launching away. AV is a good cert to get now that the Deci is AV also. Now if only they'd move the lightning to armor assault and the harasser to ATV. Then I can have my prowler and lightning too.
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