Soldner Server

[Rayder]

Someone make a thread when its actually possible to join a server.
:)

[I Hate Pants]

still not working for me

[Hamma]

I don't believe you.

[Zodiac]

Neither do I. I got connected once but CTDed while loading. :(

[I Hate Pants]

send challenge (0)
send challenge (1)
send challenge (2)

and so on.....

or I'll get:

synch: authorization complete[10] and then nuthin' happens. The green and white bars below stop moving.

[Rayder]

It's called "patience" Pants. It takes a while for it to load.

[I Hate Pants]

ive waited for up to half an hour and nothing happens.

[OneManArmy]

I connected once the other night. it sucked. of course it was a shitty server so that didnt help.

[Cyanide]

All I get is
"Socket error 10061
Unable to connect to portal ()"

I can't even create a new account. Hell, it won't even see my own lan server when it's running on the same damn machine. This wouldn't tick me off if I didn't think the concept for this game was so cool. I wish it was being made by Blizzard or ID or some other company that has a fucking clue.

[OneManArmy]

what? germans have a clue. granted its usually a demented, alchohol induced, take over the world type clue. but its a clue...

[martyr]

i connected.
i played.


i didn't like it very much.

[Sputty]

You have to try a lot, on a lot of different servers and you'll eventually get in. I hear they're going to release a patch to fix the connection issues

[I Hate Pants]

You have to try a lot, on a lot of different servers and you'll eventually get in. I hear they're going to release a patch to fix the connection issues

they damn well better! :mad:

[Indecisive]

I heard that the only reason they released this thing is because of the whole hacked leak thing.

[OneManArmy]

I heard that south dakota wants to become its own country.

[JetRaiden]

I played it, its really fun, but the lack of vehicles (really expensive) makes it a little annoying to run around. you can tell its still pretty early, but its still alot of fun. I play in 3rd person view alot because at this point 1st person view looks like crap.

[Cyanide]

I finally got it to let me connect to my own server. Here are my thoughts on the game.

1. It's a cross between CS and BF1942. It looks almost exactly like CS (actually, maybe worse with all the graphical issues it has). The character models look almost the same. Even the animations look the same. The only thing that makes it different than CS is the larger array of weapons, equipment and vehicles, and the huge maps.

2. The graphics are horrid in every way. The textures are awful and the terrain textures change randomly right in front of you. The destructable buildings are scripted, not dynamic. The terrain deformation does not look believable. The explosions are pretty much non existant. The projectiles sometimes have a vapor trail and cause an explostion, and sometimes they don't. The seperation between levels of detail is hard and clearly visible from the air, and even the ground on flat terrain. Basicly, the game looks like it's being powered by a graphics engine that's just slightly less powerful than HL1.

2. The physics are not very good. The vehicles don't handle all that realisticly. They seem like they don't have as much mass as they should. Flying anything in the game is really freakin hard without a joystick, and it doesn't help that you can't tell when you're getting close to the ground because the shadows from the vehicles sometimes do not show up at all. Most of the vehicles don't even have cockpits, which is pretty lame for a game that's supposed to be realistic. Also, the much touted destructable buildings seem to be scripted, not dynamic. For example, if you shoot a silo with the tank, the top 9/10ths of the silo just vanishes, not matter where you hit the silo. Also, when the roof of a building is destroyed, it always looks the same. I suppose this is due to the bandwidth constraints of online play. Even still, the building explosions could be a much better than they are.

3. The vehicles are too expensive. They should not be like that when you've got 32 players on a map that's 4000 miles across. It might not be quite so bad if the player could run faster than 4 miles per hour, but they can't. I don't particularly see this game involving a lot of action with only 32 players on maps that big.

4. The dedicated server has crash bugs. That might not be such a concern if the game wasnt a month away from release. All the other bugs also might not be a concern if the game wasn't a month away from release.

All in all, i'm thoroughly dissapointed in the game. It definately does not meet my expectations, and I highly doubt it will change enough to do so in the month remaining until its release.

[JetRaiden]

its still beta buddy.

[Corrosion]

i connected.
i played.


i didn't like it very much.

[arctik]

beta, beta, beta. And try not to bash Germans, I am one.

[Indecisive]

People bitched about a demo, they delivered, they arnt done the fecking game, but people were bitching. Dont judge intill they put out a full demo.

[Rayder]

The real servers will have 128 player capabilities if Linux.

[ghost018]

One of my friends told me it was a little too slow-paced. Hopefully it'll get better, since it has so much potential.
ghost

[Cyanide]

its still beta buddy.

It's a month away from release...buddy. It's not going to change that much. The graphics will be the same then as they are now. The animations will not change, the physics will not change. The vehicles will still cost too much. They will still be near impossible to fly without a joystick. In the month before release you're fixing (or supposed to be) minor glitches, not upgrading graphics, or adding better animation. The only thing that will change (hopefully, for their sake) is the ability to connect to the portal.

And I never said anything about Germans. I was calling Wings simulations and JoWood clueless. Who cares if they're German or not. If somebody says that some American developer/publish is clueless, does that mean they're insulting all of America. Give me a break.

[Setari]

actually i played for about an hour (before crashing :p ) and i found it thoroughly enjoyable. It doesn't matter so much to me whether it's beta or whatever. despite the bugs i liked it. Now the demo might have been a bit better if Jowood and Wings polished it a lot but everyone wanted it too damn much. I think it's the community's own fault for the quality of the demo. It was rushed by the people. But still aside from the bugs, I found it a fun game even without vehicles.

[JetRaiden]

I think the maps they used sucked pretty bad thats about it.

[AztecWarrior]

They have a lot of shit to fix. The graphics are uninspiring, especially pistol weapon models. Also, the guy carries long arms way too wierd- they are only visible when he is still, the weapon bobs so fucking much when he is walking.

I was gunning in a tank. I was blowing holes in huts and knocking down trees, which was cool. Then our tank spontaneously combusted. I am not joking, IT LIT ON FIRE FOR NO APPARENT REASON. The driver and I managed to get out.

The camo is bad. It's either green (any summer/desert camo) or blue (winter camo) because the color you see is not what comes out.

This is assuming you GET to connect. I've tried maybe twelve times and done it twice, giving us a ratio of 1/6, which is good, I guess, compared to you. I only get five, six servers pinged, the rest have xxx as their ping.

And for God's sake, please don't have the stupid voice cues. Every time you start (and every time the game comes back after failing to connect to a server, which is often) the music starts again...but it says "SOLDNER!" in a loud, obnoxious voice.

"Yes, I am really confused what game I'm playing. I think I'm playing Need for Speed..."SOLDNER!"...oh yeah, I'm playing Soldner!"

That and "MAP CHECK!" I AM NOT LOOKING AT AN ARBY'S MENU, AM I? I KNOW IT'S A MAP! THIS GAME WAS NOT MEANT FOR SPECIAL ED STUDENTS!

[Madcow]

Okay, I got lucky and one of the first servers I tried was a blast for about an hour the other night. They must have shut the server down because I got booted out and couldn't find it again (it was pinging around 30 during play). After that I was screwed. Couldn't connect to anything, even though I was getting pings on 90% of the servers (you have to wait about 3 minutes while it updates all the pings). All that being said it wouldn't have been bad for an early beta but you're saying they're 1 month away? I call bullshit on that one. Maybe that's what they're saying but there is no way in hell they're a month away from releasing a good game. Landscaping that appears/reappears, places on the ground that you literally can't run past (perhaps there are invisible landscaping pieces there), horrible vehicle handling (I also had a car burst into flames for no reason, I wasn't even near anybody else at the time), odd glitches especially when jumping, a ton of other smaller things and of course the impossibility of connecting to online games. I keep waiting for a patch to help correct some things, but I've seen nothing (and would have thought it would have been rushed out after the weekend). There is no way the game I played is 1 month from release.

[AztecWarrior]

(I also had a car burst into flames for no reason, I wasn't even near anybody else at the time)
Spontaneous combustion sucks, don't it?

[Dharkbayne]

My landrover did that too. That game is pretty fun, WHEN YOU CAN PLAY. I've gotten into 2 servers, about 15 minutes of play each.

[Setari]

i got into one server and played for 2 or 3 hours. it was really quite fun. It may be this bad but i think theyll fix the connection problems by retail. I'm still getting the game. I dont care so much about the graphics and such because when you can play it manages to be really fun.

[AztecWarrior]

I managed to connect to a server. It had unlimited cash, so I bought a Humvee. I drove it, and sure enough, like a Pinto, it combusted after tapping a tree at maybe 3 MPH. I got out, got out my Saiga, and began hunting.

After taking a control point, I saw someone ambling around the other team's CP. I took out my Saiga and gave him two to the face. It animated the firing and all, but it still said I had 8 bullets. I kept on firing. No ammo wasted, no bullets fired, and the other guy didn't notice.

An M2 armored vehicle went by. I took out an anti-tank rocket. I clicked the mouse. Nothing happened. I used the scope and fired. Nothing happened. I could not fire the rocket!

I charged the idle enemy at base, who had moved maybe two steps, with my blazing Saiga. Nothing.

I get up to him and knife. Nothing, but the M2 has driven up to me. Nobody has fired except for me.

I take out my Desert Eagle and fire like 20 shots, not bothering to reload because I know at this point that the game is fucked up, and I CAN'T reload, even if I wanted to. The other player was lagged out, or the game just sucks. The M2 kept on moving, though jerky. It did not fire (I blame the shitty netcode.)

I quit.

[Jennyboo]

I don't believe you.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol:

[Setari]

I managed to connect to a server. It had unlimited cash, so I bought a Humvee. I drove it, and sure enough, like a Pinto, it combusted after tapping a tree at maybe 3 MPH. I got out, got out my Saiga, and began hunting.

After taking a control point, I saw someone ambling around the other team's CP. I took out my Saiga and gave him two to the face. It animated the firing and all, but it still said I had 8 bullets. I kept on firing. No ammo wasted, no bullets fired, and the other guy didn't notice.

An M2 armored vehicle went by. I took out an anti-tank rocket. I clicked the mouse. Nothing happened. I used the scope and fired. Nothing happened. I could not fire the rocket!

I charged the idle enemy at base, who had moved maybe two steps, with my blazing Saiga. Nothing.

I get up to him and knife. Nothing, but the M2 has driven up to me. Nobody has fired except for me.

I take out my Desert Eagle and fire like 20 shots, not bothering to reload because I know at this point that the game is fucked up, and I CAN'T reload, even if I wanted to. The other player was lagged out, or the game just sucks. The M2 kept on moving, though jerky. It did not fire (I blame the shitty netcode.)

I quit.
I rarely experience any of those problems. :groovy:

[Fragmatic]

I rarely experience any of those problems. :groovy:

Me neither.

It's a good game, and yes, there are some problems.

Graphics aren't too good, no, but for the scale of the game, and the destructable terrain, it's nice. I much rather prefer gameplay over graphics, and the gameplay is nice (more of a tactical/sim style). If this gets off the ground, it shall be my next game purchase. JoWood spent 2 years on this game, and they're not gonna build a new graphics engine, considering how long the game took to make.

[AztecWarrior]

If possible, this is buggier than Tribes 2 on a Celeron 450 MhZ.

[Vick]

There are not alot of real bugs, just lots of connection issues. When your on a good server there is 0 lag and it just owns.

And why are people bitching about the graphics? Set it to something besides 640x480 and play, it looks sweet.

[AztecWarrior]

There are not alot of real bugs, just lots of connection issues. When your on a good server there is 0 lag and it just owns.

And why are people bitching about the graphics? Set it to something besides 640x480 and play, it looks sweet.
Agreed. Though it's not revolutionary, they're good.

[Hezzy]

The most amount of fun to be had with this current build is to start a dedicated LAN server up on your own computer and blow buildings up.

Just like Red Faction.

[Dharkbayne]

My god. Apache longbow + forest + missles + lots of spare time = WINNER.

[Fragmatic]

The most amount of fun to be had with this current build is to start a dedicated LAN server up on your own computer and blow buildings up.

Just like Red Faction.

Negative, Go play online.

The amount of things you can do in this game through creativity is amazing.
IE, the riverside map.

There's a backroute road that goes from HQ to HQ, it's surrounded by trees all the way down, what I do is this -

Grab a bombing back and blow out trees creating a major roadblock near my teams HQ, then travelling further down the road and setting some motion sensor C4 up by trees. The enemy will drive on down, hear an explosion and see their path blocked behind them, thinking it was a failed ambush, then they'll drive on up, come to a MASSIVE roadblock.

What this does is centralise the battle to the middle path, making it easier for my team to defend and attack, because there is a lot less to worry about.

[JetRaiden]

This game is kinda fun right now, I didnt like those maps. if they incorporated vehicles more and fixed all the problems, itll be a great game.

[Setari]

This game is kinda fun right now, I didnt like those maps. if they incorporated vehicles more and fixed all the problems, itll be a great game.
i agree about the maps. They seem pretty generic to me. I'm waiting to see if there's a more urban map.

[Dharkbayne]

There is only one map in the game, and it's like 18 million square miles, those are just sections, in the full game, you can fly for over 3 hours in a jet and not hit the end. I'm betting there's an urban area or two. And over 70 vehicles I think. Remember, DEMO, not full.

[Rbstr]

I have to say it has great promis, but the demo is not likeing me at all, i have neven gotten into a good server, but apperantly a new patch will come out for it soon and fix alot of those issues. I bet PS was like this back in early beta and begining of open beta. But now i neve encounter any bugs but the cavern rendering issue

[Setari]

I have to say it has great promis, but the demo is not likeing me at all, i have neven gotten into a good server, but apperantly a new patch will come out for it soon and fix alot of those issues. I bet PS was like this back in early beta and begining of open beta. But now i neve encounter any bugs but the cavern rendering issue
i doubt any patches will come out for the demo. It'll probably just be better in the full version because at least then it won't be rushed. Dhark, you can't be serious that it's all one map *glances at Soldner site* then again i could be wrong

Short Feature Summary

* Simulation of a highly complex diplomatic system which creates the dynamic campaign and missions

* Dynamic World Generation on the basis of digital satellite data with day/night cycle, weather and seasons

* Realistic virtual battlefield: the advanced terrain engine with the new destruction system (ADS - Advanced Destruction System), which even allows for simulated damage by tactical nuclear warheads
* Designed for Teamplay in Multiplayer: multitude team mission types and game elements for coordinated team action

* Dedicated Server support up to 32 players, up to 128 players on special servers of game providers

* Dynamic single player campaign with mission generator

* Realistic weapon systems from the research laboratories of the weapon industry

first time ive seen that thing about nukes

[AztecWarrior]

Realistic virtual battlefield: the advanced terrain engine with the new destruction system (ADS - Advanced Destruction System), which even allows for simulated damage by tactical nuclear warheads

NUKES! HOORJ!

[Setari]

:lol:

but i have a feeling that's associated with the single player campaign only :(

[AztecWarrior]

:lol:

but i have a feeling that's associated with the single player campaign only :(

We need mods, lots of mods. -Neo, edited

[Dharkbayne]

This game would be perfect for a medievil mod, Destructable terrain + castle + catapult = Funderfulnessifulisms.

[Hamma]

I would love to try this game, but its near impossible to fucking get in a server.

[AztecWarrior]

WORST GAME EVER.

I manage to connect (HOORJ!) and join the Blue team. The server has jacked up the starting money, so I buy body armor, a H&K G36, and an H&K pistol. I see a Humvee and a helicopter, so I decide that because of the jacked up cash, everyone should be flying. I buy a Stinger.

I sprint down a slightly sloping road. Every five seconds my character stops and goes "OOF!". Nevertheless, I trudge on.

I see some Red team armored vehicle shooting our base. Well, it was through a tree, but anyone shooting at us is either Red or Blue TKer and deserves to die. I take out the Stinger. After it tones up and I get a good lock, I fire. The missile streaks out and kills both the APC and the Red team member who had gotten out but was not far enough to escape the blast.

I'm like "Damn, this game could be awesome!"

Crash to desktop for no apparent reason.

[Setari]

WORST GAME EVER.

I manage to connect (HOORJ!) and join the Blue team. The server has jacked up the starting money, so I buy body armor, a H&K G36, and an H&K pistol. I see a Humvee and a helicopter, so I decide that because of the jacked up cash, everyone should be flying. I buy a Stinger.

I sprint down a slightly sloping road. Every five seconds my character stops and goes "OOF!". Nevertheless, I trudge on.

I see some Red team armored vehicle shooting our base. Well, it was through a tree, but anyone shooting at us is either Red or Blue TKer and deserves to die. I take out the Stinger. After it tones up and I get a good lock, I fire. The missile streaks out and kills both the APC and the Red team member who had gotten out but was not far enough to escape the blast.

I'm like "Damn, this game could be awesome!"

Crash to desktop for no apparent reason.
yea CTDs are a problem. I can sprint long distances fine. I still think it's a good game.