[FPS]Bakers Dozen Announced!

[Biohazzard56]

Gearbox and Ubisoft are making a new WW2 Themed Shooter called Bakers Dozen, it looks to be using the Unreal Warfare engine, notice it is not announced yet but it will be shortly and the main site already has screenshots. Hopefully Gearbox wont fuck it up after the trainwreck that was Halo PC. Here is the site:

Baker's Dozen (http://www.warstory.net/d-1.asp)

[Rbstr]

hmmm, more games i need to get but do not have the money for, damn i wish games wer $10 a piece i could get all 5 that i want/need

[Kyonye]

Graphics doesn't look too bad....we just gotta wait a bit until more on the game gets here.

[Smaug]

Good god, another one? I wish the game industry would catch a hint and move on to a different setting in history.

[ChewyLSB]

That's the problem though, there aren't many other time periods which you're able to make a good FPS from. Anything before WW2 is too simple. Imagine a WW1 FPS. Oh boy, experience the thrills of trench warfare while you avoid rats in your sleep. The Persian Gulf War is probably too controversial and probably too unbalanced to be a realistic shooter. Vietnam was too filled with guerilla warfare to create fun FPS's (BattleField: Vietnam is the only good Vietnam shooter I know of), so that leaves WW2 and futuristic shooters, which is what almost all shooters are now.

[Kyonye]

FPS's don't have many wars to work with that contained guns in them. besides, WWII FPS's are fun to me, and many other people.

[Smaug]

Oh I agree its fun, but wouldn't you like a little variety? You could make a ww1 shooter work, you can make a vietnam shooter work. Also the controversial bit about the gulf war is understandable, but there already are games like that (Desert combat). Its just that it gets boring after you've played the same mission in 3 different games.

[Mr1337Duck]

Yeah. Or imagine a civil war or revolution war game.

"Squad, open fire!"
"Fuck! I missed!"
*spends 30 seconds loading another round*

[ChewyLSB]

Desert Combat was a mod created by an independent mod-maker, and the mod-maker isn't under the constant threat of being sued. While, yes, you could make a WW1 or Vietnam shooter work, it's just so much easier and more fun to make a WW2 Shooter.

[Fragmatic]

Desert Combat was a mod created by an independent mod-maker, and the mod-maker isn't under the constant threat of being sued. While, yes, you could make a WW1 or Vietnam shooter work, it's just so much easier and more fun to make a WW2 Shooter.

They've now been hired by EA to make an expansion/mod/whatever for BF:V

[I Hate Pants]

They still need to make a WW2 game using one of the far more advance engines. Like Crytek. That would be sick.

[I Hate Pants]

They've now been hired by EA to make an expansion/mod/whatever for BF:V

Sources plznthku

Double post! Asswipes!

[Fragmatic]

Sources plznthku

Double post! Asswipes!

Trauma Studios homepage - http://www.traumastudios.com/

Edit - Ok, they're hired by DICE instead and are making something new, most likely an expansion as they don't have the knowledge of creating an engine.

[Smaug]

Desert Combat was a mod created by an independent mod-maker, and the mod-maker isn't under the constant threat of being sued. While, yes, you could make a WW1 or Vietnam shooter work, it's just so much easier and more fun to make a WW2 Shooter.

I highly doubt you are going to be sued for making a game about the gulf war, whether you are a large corporation or small one. Hell there was a mod for ut2k3 I think(could be wrong) where you were a business man in the wtc trying to get out without burning, and it let you jump out of the building too. If those people didn't get sued I would say that a gulf war game would never cause legal action.

[ChewyLSB]

Ok, but even so, you can't make a realistically balanced game out of the gulf war.

[I Hate Pants]

Trauma Studios homepage - http://www.traumastudios.com/

Edit - Ok, they're hired by DICE instead and are making something new, most likely an expansion as they don't have the knowledge of creating an engine.

UGH! I've already known that for some time now. But they still haven't exactly mentioned what it is they're exactly doing.

Ok, but even so, you can't make a realistically balanced game out of the gulf war.

Technically speaking the Vietnam War was very fair either. NVA lost over a million trops while America took just below 50,000. But EA/DICE managed to make it fair. It'll just have to be an arcade style game.

The only problem I see is stacked American teams with a game like that.

[OfaLoaf]

If going back into the past becomes a hassle because of the reload rates, why not just skip guns altogether?

Why not a Crusades FPS? The reload rate wouldn't be that slow, since there'd be no guns, and it'd look pretty cool. Maybe you could attack the asassins (an actual sect that existed during the middle ages, their name is derived from hashish, which they smoked before killing), or try and kill an elephant Return of the King style.

Or maybe go against the Mongols! Yeah, that's the ticket!

[Fragmatic]

If going back into the past becomes a hassle because of the reload rates, why not just skip guns altogether?

Why not a Crusades FPS? The reload rate wouldn't be that slow, since there'd be no guns, and it'd look pretty cool. Maybe you could attack the asassins (an actual sect that existed during the middle ages, their name is derived from hashish, which they smoked before killing), or try and kill an elephant Return of the King style.

Or maybe go against the Mongols! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Pirates mod for Battlefield 1942. Nuff said.

[ChewyLSB]

Yes but the difference between Vietnam and The Persian Gulf is that Vietnam had many battles which were very close between the NVA and the Americans. However, in the Persian Golf, practically every battle was a decisive victory for the Americans.

[Smaug]

Who said anything about realistic. Purely realistic games are boring. Games like CoD/MOH/BF are far from pure realism. Sure they have the same weapons, and same battles, but the force strength isn't the same, the weapon ROFs are usually changed for balance, and both teams usually get the same vehicles that one side sometimes just didn't have at all. Is DC realistic? In terms of weapons yes, in terms of victories, hell no. The iraqis have just as much of a chance to win at a DC game than the americans.

[JetRaiden]

We need a WWI shooter. Ive played through so many divisions of WWII I have a clear understanding of dozens of companies.

btw, Baker Company was a company of the 101st, 502nd regiment, just like Easy company right?

[Hamma]

Enough WWII Games.

[Indecisive]

Battlefield: Iraqi Freedom :p

[ChewyLSB]

I understand balance, but you're bending realism beyond the realm of what is believable. While this works for some people, I'd much rather just stick with Axis v. Allies.

[Smaug]

Ok what would you consider believable. Would the nazis winning in a game of BF:1942 be believable? Then how is the iraqis winning in a game of DC unbelievable?

[Squeeky]

Enough WWII Games.

Yes plz

[AztecWarrior]

Enough WWII Games.
What he said.

How about a post-modern shooter that DOESN'T suck (cough Soldner cough).

[Rayder]

Let's make a WWI FPS where, instead of guns and stuff, we all use chemical bombs and the mission is to try to infect your enemies coffee with nerve gas and laugh when their eyes bulge.

[ChewyLSB]

The nazi's winning WWII is believeable. If Germany hadn't attacked russia, there would have been a very good chance of the Axis forces winning.

[Rayder]

Well... you should factor in Operation: Overlord. If Hitler had listened to Rommel's advice and had sent the Panzer division over to the beaches... just think about that.

[Smaug]

The nazi's winning WWII is believeable. If Germany hadn't attacked russia, there would have been a very good chance of the Axis forces winning.

Well we can say the iraqis could have survived as a nation if they had never invaded kuwait, and hadn't started this whole thing in the first place. Bottom line is that realism is boring. Repitition is also boring. Why play the same setting in 5 different games? Its just the same thing over and over.

[TheN00b]

Hopefully Gearbox wont fuck it up after the trainwreck that was Halo PC.

Eh? I dunno 'bout the rest of you, but I thought Halo PC was a damn good port.

[Dharkbayne]

They need to start doing shit differently. I'm sick of these WWII games. I'd like to see a modern war game, especially a MMO one, i.e. Desert combat + Planetside.

[ChewyLSB]

Well we can say the iraqis could have survived as a nation if they had never invaded kuwait, and hadn't started this whole thing in the first place. Bottom line is that realism is boring. Repitition is also boring. Why play the same setting in 5 different games? Its just the same thing over and over.

That's avoiding the war. That's completely different. By that logic, America would've won the war if Japan never attacked Pearl Harbor, but they didn't really win, did they?

There just aren't many good war situations which make good FPS's.

[Smaug]

Well fine if you're going to keep sticking to that one point then why don't they just stop making war games. How about they just make shit up like they used to. I'd much rather play that, than another ww2 game.

[ChewyLSB]

Which is why almost all FPS's are categorized into two themes, WW2 and futuristic FPS's.

[OneManArmy]

you dont have to like ti but I will and I know there will be plenty of others who will too. I never tire of playing GOOD games, no matter what the setting.

[Rayder]

That's avoiding the war. That's completely different. By that logic, America would've won the war if Japan never attacked Pearl Harbor, but they didn't really win, did they?

There just aren't many good war situations which make good FPS's.
Wha? America only got started in WWII because of Japan. So, how the hell could we have won if we didn't even fight?

[ChewyLSB]

That's what I'm saying. Smaug said that Iraq wouldn't have gotten into the war if they didn't invade Kuwait and whatnot, but that's not really winning the war, is it?

[OneManArmy]

um..... same thing... http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/brothersinarms/screenindex.html