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Rbstr
2004-04-13, 06:49 PM
Well today i got my gig of ram 2 sticks of DDR400 wich regretfully has to ruin at a maximum of DDR266 speeds, luckily however i was able to get the cas settings dow to 2.0! and i'm in the process of lowering the other Latencies as well.

Anyway i recorded some PS fps at different times
(before, with the new Nvidia drivers witch lowered my FPS alot but boosted IQ enough to be worth it)
30-50 in sanc
20-35 in small squad battle
20-30 in mild zerg
5-20 in uberzerg

Now i get
30-50
20-40
20-35
10-25

not much of an increase is it but there is one thing that stood out, the door loading was gone, conts loaded relativly quickly and the slowdows do to pingspikes wer substantialy less. I now have no problems with the FPS rate i get in this game, even the 15-20 fps that i get are perfectly playable.

Anyway if you don't have a gig, or don't have two sticks to dual channel with i REALY recomend getting a matched stick to the one you have or a new set.

WildEagle
2004-04-13, 06:55 PM
what's overclocking, and I thought you were helpin me.
BTW that's great man you could do pretty well in an uber zerg. My friend has a super computer with 2 terabytes of memory= no problems in-game evar.

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 08:16 PM
what's overclocking, and I thought you were helpin me.
BTW that's great man you could do pretty well in an uber zerg. My friend has a super computer with 2 terabytes of memory= no problems in-game evar.

I presume you mean 2TB of RAM, right?

BS

No motherboards currently support that, and the maximum capacity for RAM modules currently is 2 gb, he would have to have 100 of those, which no motherboard can take.

I presume you mean hard drive space, 10 200gb drives (or 8 250gb drives) is plausable, but not much room for anything else (Unless he has 2 psu's).

WildEagle
2004-04-13, 08:29 PM
did you catch super computer?

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 08:55 PM
did you catch super computer?

Yes I did.

Unfortunately, any "super computer" would not even be able to play games.
They have a completely different architecture to a normal computer, and run custom operating systems, not capable of running games.

Go look in the mirror little boy, you have gullible written on your forehead.

Rbstr
2004-04-13, 09:04 PM
You have just runied my thread!!

quit bickering, thoguh frag is right, And and average human bieng making less than sevveraly milion could not buy/pay for the power that a super computer would take

WildEagle
2004-04-13, 09:09 PM
the dude is rich, his parents are multi millionaires. that spoiled bitch

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 09:21 PM
the dude is rich, his parents are multi millionaires. that spoiled bitch

So what does he use the supercomputer for?

Edit - Actual contribution to the thread.

Rbstr, have your load times decreased? Judging by your system, you should be getting better performence!

What res/graphics detail do you run at?

Rbstr
2004-04-13, 09:29 PM
Yes they have decreased a noticeable ammount, I'm doing med textures and med Particles with everything but shadows on at 1024xwaht ever it is

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 09:32 PM
Somethings wrong then.

I'm running on -

Atlon 2800+
1gb DDR PC2700
Radeon 9600XT

Pretty much simular to your system. Now, I run at 1280x1024, medium details (with Flora turned off) and I get (in same FPS orders you used)

80-120 in sanc
35-60 in small squad battle
20-30 in mild zerg
15-25 in uberzerg

Rbstr
2004-04-13, 09:36 PM
Well there is one MAJOR difference i have a celleron, with a 400mhz fsb, it is crappy in all possible ways, if i had a 2.4ghz P4 i would be getting similar results

EDIT: Also i have some drivers for my 5600 that are leaked from nvidia they do wonders for Image Quality fixeing the Purple splotch thing in the spawntubes even, and that made my Max FPS go way down, from maxes of 103 to the 50ish i have in sanc, but the bottom end went up a bit.

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 09:40 PM
Well there is one MAJOR difference i have a celleron, with a 400mhz fsb, it is crappy in all possible ways, if i had a 2.4ghz P4 i would be getting similar results


I have an Athlon with an fsb speed of 333mhz and a total clock speed of 2.2ghz, your point is?

Edit - I was going to say, that maybe it's to do with the cache size on your cpu, but in fact, it's pretty much the same as mine.

WildEagle
2004-04-13, 09:42 PM
hey what about my stuff?

Rbstr
2004-04-13, 09:46 PM
yes but yours is doubled mine is quaded, so its realy 100, yours is different, and yours has a full 512 cache yours offers performance similarity with a 2.6ghz/2.8ghz P4 Northwood 'c', mine would be something like a 1800+

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 09:46 PM
hey what about my stuff?

Start a seperate thread about overclocking.

This thread is about rbstrs results from upgrading to 1gb of RAM, and you didn't answer my last question.

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 09:56 PM
yes but yours is doubled mine is quaded, so its realy 100, yours is different, and yours has a full 512 cache yours offers performance similarity with a 2.6ghz/2.8ghz P4 Northwood 'c', mine would be something like a 1800+

Mine runs at 333mhz FSB TOTAL, so 166, you have an advantage there. I don't have a 512k L2 Cache, it's not a barton core, its a Thoroughbred B core.

Compare specs -
2800+
Total Clock Speed - 2250mhz
FSB - 333mhz
Volts - 1.65
L1 Cache - 128kB
L2 Cache - 256 kB (Full)

Celery 2.4
Total Clock Speed - 2400mhz
FSB - 400mhz
Volts - 1.3
L1 Cache - 32kB (High compared to a P4 L1 Cache - 8kB Data + 12kB ETC)
L2 Cache - 256kB

Overall, your CPU should be better than mine, especially at the speeds you're running it at. The only major difference I can see is L1 cache size, but it's always small for Intel CPUs.

Rbstr
2004-04-13, 11:08 PM
I am preaty sure my CPU has only a 128kB cache

and its not clock for clock that matters, you have an Athlon XP, they run much faster clock per clock, and overall FSB speed doesn't mean much, my memory speed is limited to 234 because of my FSB (117) or asyncronus i can run it at 266, you howver can run its syncronously at ddr333 because of your FSB at 166mhz

Fragmatic
2004-04-13, 11:24 PM
I am preaty sure my CPU has only a 128kB cache

It does, for L1 cache. Have to take both into account, L2 being the most Important.

Intel Celeron Specs (http://cpuscorecard.com/cpuprices/ic.htm)

Rbstr
2004-04-14, 08:21 PM
my cpu: http://www.ajump.com/ajump/product.asp?dept%5Fid=2522&pf%5Fid=2840352&sku=99%2D99%2D99%2D99%2D99%2D2840352

http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/celeron/detail.htm#twofourghz

I also when back to my pooper IQ drivers and am getting 90+ in sanc sometimes, a 10fps boost on those drivers

Electrofreak
2004-04-14, 10:30 PM
Rbstr even CTDs faster now with that new RAM :p

Rbstr
2004-04-14, 11:41 PM
yeah it nice instead of waiting 10 min before it finaly get to desktop it was instant. Funny its the first time i've CTDed for no apperant reason(most charshe i have are me messing with the bios) scence that relay buggy Test Server patch

Acaila
2004-04-15, 02:21 AM
A Celeron 2.4 does fuck all operations per clock when compared to an Athlon 2800+. It is all about architecture. A 2800+ is comparable to a P4 2.8|533MHz FSB and it will perform significantly better than his OCed Celeron. It should, it costs a shit load more. AMD have proven that clock speed isn't everything.

A 9600XT is also way way waayyyy better than an FX5600. Take that into account aswell, it is a huge performance difference.

OnT: 1GB sure does help alot. You should get a 2.6 at 800 FSB and OC the crap out of it. Can get them up around 3.1-3.4 with air cooling, 3.0 is safe with stock cooling. You could use your RAM to the best of its abilities that way. Your current FPS are limited by your GFX card a little aswell. I have a Pixelview FX5600U, the damn thing comes stock OCed with 256MB DDR2 and I still average 20-25 FPS in an uber zerg with eye candy off, with a P4 3.0 OCed to 3.4|1GB DDR400 running 5:4 (not happy about that, need faster RAM ffs). All in all, looks like a good upgrade, can play in any circumstance.

Electrofreak
2004-04-15, 02:27 PM
::Eagerly awaits his 1 gig of Kingston HyperX PC3500::

Should be here today or tomorrow....

can't wait to OC it up to like 230mhz, and get my AMD 64 3200+ running at 1:1 with the RAM (2300mhz).

Couple that with my Radeon 9800 PRO, and I should be gettin some serious frames...

:D

Rbstr
2004-04-15, 04:14 PM
yeah i'm working on getting me a 2.4 or 2.6 P4c.

Hey electro if your bros comp has a socket 478 then i can sell you my Cellron for $50 in addition to the 512 stick. then i can buy me a 2.4 P4 (maybee a 2.6 if my friend will let me use his discount)

i would definently oc the heck out of that baby

Electrofreak
2004-04-15, 04:17 PM
::hmms:: im not sure what the specs are on that comp, i'll check it out and definately consider

Rbstr
2004-04-15, 05:01 PM
sweet man, i just need to find a place that has P4's for $150

DemiInuyoukai
2004-04-20, 11:49 PM
even if u could get 2 tb of ram, and a supercomp could play games, which it can't, only like maybe 5 gigs of that would be used. What's the point of the extra? Big ass movie editing?