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FlakMan
2004-04-15, 07:56 PM
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/

OfaLoaf
2004-04-15, 08:04 PM
Yay. If a meteor hit Detroit I wouldn't die.

Infernus
2004-04-15, 08:11 PM
You wouldn't die immeadiatly... the website only calculates crater size... chances are there would be radioactive fallout (depending on composition and mass) or the sheer force of the seismic shockwave could literaly rip you apart... 'course I'm talking doomsday mass, below that is very different...

Smaug
2004-04-15, 08:16 PM
It wouldn't be radioactive :p. You're talking about a 2 year winter that is caused by massive dustclouds blocking out the sun.

Infernus
2004-04-15, 08:18 PM
By all means it would be radioactive... your talking about massive peice of cosmic rock teraing a whole in the o-zone... thats why I said it depends on the size... if the asteroid is big enough it will open the floodgates for UV rays...

EDIT: One more thing... we do not know the entire composition of wayward celestial bodies... Flash frozen iron, plus plenty of possibly radioactive materials... all of which would be pulverized on impact and scattered...

Smaug
2004-04-15, 08:19 PM
I'm sorry but an asteroid hitting the earth does not produce a nuclear, or radioactive explosion of any kind. It does however if large enough produce a massive dustcloud. It also won't "tear a hole in the ozone" permanently. It is nowhere large enough to have a profound effect on the ozone.

OfaLoaf
2004-04-15, 08:23 PM
It depends on the size of the asteroid.

Spee
2004-04-15, 08:26 PM
It depends on the size of the asteroid.



If Mars hit us, it would disrupt the ozone.


Move your hand through the air. Did you create a total vaccum, devoid of O2? Maybe for an iota of a second. Ozone is o2....with another O attached to it. Ozone would be like "OSHIT HERE COMES A BIG ASS ROCK!!!111" then be pushed away, then come back saying "Man. That was a big fookin' rock, eh?"


Im assuming all O3 molecules are canadian.

Infernus
2004-04-15, 08:29 PM
Fallout n. 1.The slow descent of minute particles of debris in the atmosphere following an explosion, especially the descent of radioactive debris after a nuclear explosion. 2.The particles that descend in this fashion.

A rock hitting the earth at a massive speed would cause an explosion... the dust cloud would contain radioactive particles that were part of the asteroid... while most noteably the word fallout is used to describe the effect of a nuclear explosion it can be applyed to any explosin thats leaves articles light enough to be despersed across a large area over an amount of time produces fallout... Radioactive Particles= Radioactive fallout...

... ... why I feel liek arguing this so much I have no idea ... besides nobody knows what will happen... the only cataclysmic event on this scale that ever happened on this planet is undocumented, all we know is that it killed a bunch of big lizards...

JetRaiden
2004-04-15, 08:30 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

ew....I hope O2 molecules arent canadian too, because Id hate to have that inside of me.

Infernus
2004-04-15, 08:30 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

ew....I hope O2 molecules arent canadian too, because Id hate to have that inside of me.

:scared:

Kaikou
2004-04-15, 08:32 PM
If Mars hit us, it would disrupt the ozone.


Move your hand through the air. Did you create a total vaccum, devoid of O2? Maybe for an iota of a second. Ozone is o2....with another O attached to it. Ozone would be like "OSHIT HERE COMES A BIG ASS ROCK!!!111" then be pushed away, then come back saying "Man. That was a big fookin' rock, eh?"


Im assuming all O3 molecules are canadian.

ROFL

Very well put. There would be no radiation from a big chunk of rock hitting earth unless that big chunk of rock was radioactive to begin with. Same as throwing a rock at a pile of sand. That's all an asteroid crashing into earth is, only super sized.

Hezzy
2004-04-15, 08:33 PM
If Mars hit us, it would disrupt the ozone.


Move your hand through the air. Did you create a total vaccum, devoid of O2? Maybe for an iota of a second. Ozone is o2....with another O attached to it. Ozone would be like "OSHIT HERE COMES A BIG ASS ROCK!!!111" then be pushed away, then come back saying "Man. That was a big fookin' rock, eh?"


Im assuming all O3 molecules are canadian.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

Smaug
2004-04-15, 08:37 PM
A rock hitting the earth at a massive speed would cause an explosion... the dust cloud would contain radioactive particles that were part of the asteroid... while most noteably the word fallout is used to describe the effect of a nuclear explosion it can be applyed to any explosin thats leaves articles light enough to be despersed across a large area over an amount of time produces fallout... Radioactive Particles= Radioactive fallout...

... ... why I feel liek arguing this so much I have no idea ... besides nobody knows what will happen... the only cataclysmic event on this scale that ever happened on this planet is undocumented, all we know is that it killed a bunch of big lizards...

Yet you are assuming that the asteroid is itself composed of radioactive material which is highly doubtful. You are describing a highly unlikely situation, which in your first post you made very unclear, making you sound like you're crazy.

Infernus
2004-04-15, 08:38 PM
Yet you are assuming that the asteroid is itself composed of radioactive material which is highly doubtful. You are describing a highly unlikely situation, which in your first post you made very unclear, making you sound like you're crazy.


I am crazy... ...u didn't know?

/me hides in the corner babbling crazily...

Mango
2004-04-15, 08:39 PM
Owned!

Mag-Mower
2004-04-15, 08:40 PM
hahahah thats terribley funny

Spee
2004-04-15, 08:42 PM
OKAY. Maybe this is easier to comprehend.

Non-Nuclear rock + owwy owwy heat from Ozone, who are hunting moose and eating ham, while calling it bacon + impact with earth, whos now pissed at the asteroid belt = NON-nuclear fallout cloud. Winter from dust, seismic disruptions, thermal radiation, etc. For clarification


THERMAL RADIATION = HEAT.


As in "Ow, mommy, I stuck my hand up Satan's ass and it burned me"

Now. If a big-ass chunk of plutonium/uranium, or some isotope of iron or whatevertheshit it is, THEN there would be nuclear fallout. Oh, theres another condition that would make it nuclear.


Detroit Nuclear Power Plant: Y HELO THAR!
Meteor: Whattup, bitch?
DNPP: OW.
Fallout: EAT CANCER, PEONS!!!!11
People: OMFG LUKEMIA! LOLOLOL


There ya go. Unless theres SOME nuclear element to begin with, the fallout CANNOT be radioactive, UNLESS theres involvement with "The Isotope Fairy" who goes around and turns harmless elements into thier radioactive isotopes.

Smaug
2004-04-15, 08:46 PM
OKAY. Maybe this is easier to comprehend.

Non-Nuclear rock + owwy owwy heat from Ozone, who are hunting moose and eating ham, while calling it bacon + impact with earth, whos now pissed at the asteroid belt = NON-nuclear fallout cloud. Winter from dust, seismic disruptions, thermal radiation, etc. For clarification


THERMAL RADIATION = HEAT.


As in "Ow, mommy, I stuck my hand up Satan's ass and it burned me"

Now. If a big-ass chunk of plutonium/uranium, or some isotope of iron or whatevertheshit it is, THEN there would be nuclear fallout. Oh, theres another condition that would make it nuclear.


Detroit Nuclear Power Plant: Y HELO THAR!
Meteor: Whattup, bitch?
DNPP: OW.
Fallout: EAT CANCER, PEONS!!!!11
People: OMFG LUKEMIA! LOLOLOL


There ya go. Unless theres SOME nuclear element to begin with, the fallout CANNOT be radioactive, UNLESS theres involvement with "The Isotope Fairy" who goes around and turns harmless elements into thier radioactive isotopes.
For shizzle, bizzle. And also I'm not even sure if our solar system has any asteroids that would be composed of uranium or something of the sort. Most asteroids are made of metals/rock.

Spee
2004-04-15, 08:48 PM
For shizzle, bizzle. And also I'm not even sure if our solar system has any asteroids that would be composed of plutonium or something of the sort. Most asteroids are made of metals/rock.



:lol:


Pssst....Pssst....Plutonium = Metal :lol:

Smaug
2004-04-15, 08:49 PM
pfft ok fine, non-radioactive metals, like iron.

Spee
2004-04-15, 08:53 PM
pfft ok fine, non-radioactive metals, like iron.


I could nail you on a technicality for isotopes of iron, but, I say its about time to bury this thread.

EarlyDawn
2004-04-15, 09:08 PM
I could nail you on a technicality for isotopes of iron, but, I say its about time to bury this thread.:lol:

Infernus
2004-04-15, 09:13 PM
I could nail you on a technicality for isotopes of iron, but, I say its about time to bury this thread.

Agreed... I sure as heel aint arguing the radioactive case anymore... heh my teacher says that my far out unprovable theories will be the death of any career I have... heh all I dream of doing now is building a metal gear...

Spee
2004-04-15, 09:20 PM
heh all I dream of doing now is building a metal gear...



Dont even get me started. Ive practically memorized all the dialogue from every cutscene in that game.

It was the only game I played for a year or two, and, due to how many times people wanted to see the game played in its fullness, I played it like a motherfucker.


SS: Metal Gear?!
DARPA Chief: You knew?! Metal Gear is one of the most Secret black projects!
SS: We've had a few run-ins in the past...

Smaug
2004-04-15, 09:24 PM
solidus turns me on

JetRaiden
2004-04-15, 09:25 PM
solidus turns me on

thank you for ending what couldve possibly been a 5-page debate.

Smaug
2004-04-15, 09:36 PM
I do the best with what I've got.

Rayder
2004-04-15, 11:48 PM
Your Inputs:

Distance from Impact: 1.61 km = 1.00 miles Projectile Diameter: 1.00 m = 3.28 ft = 0.00 miles Projectile Density: 1 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 1.00 km/s = 0.62 miles/s Impact Angle: 55 degrees Target Density: 4 kg/m3 Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil Energy:

2.62 x 105 Joules = 0.00 KiloTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is less than 1 month.Crater Size:

What does this mean? (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterexp.html#crater)


Transient Crater Diameter (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#transient): 9 m = 28 ft Final Crater Diameter (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#final): 14 m = 44 ftThe crater formed is a simple crater (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#simple)

Spee
2004-04-15, 11:50 PM
Your Inputs:

Distance from Impact: 1.61 km = 1.00 miles Projectile Diameter: 1.00 m = 3.28 ft = 0.00 miles Projectile Density: 1 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 1.00 km/s = 0.62 miles/s Impact Angle: 55 degrees Target Density: 4 kg/m3 Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil Energy:

2.62 x 105 Joules = 0.00 KiloTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is less than 1 month.Crater Size:

What does this mean? (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterexp.html#crater)


Transient Crater Diameter (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#transient): 9 m = 28 ft Final Crater Diameter (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#final): 14 m = 44 ftThe crater formed is a simple crater (http://www.ece.arizona.edu/~rmarcus/craterglos.html#simple)


Thats scientist speak for...


"If an Ice cube falls an extremely slow rate and hits a house next door, I wont be vaporized."

Setari
2004-04-15, 11:58 PM
Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 11270.00 km = 6998.67 miles
Projectile Diameter: 2000000.00 m = 6560000.00 ft = 1242.00 miles
Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 72.00 km/s = 44.71 miles/s
Impact Angle: 90 degrees
Target Density: 3000 kg/m3
Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

Energy:
8.69 x 1031 Joules = 2.07 x 1016 MegaTons TNT
The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 4.0 x 1014years

Crater Size:
What does this mean?


Transient Crater Diameter: 10987.54 km = 6823.26 miles
Final Crater Diameter: 37045.38 km = 23005.18 miles

The crater formed is a complex crater.
Thermal Radiation:
What does this mean?


Time for maximum radiation: 1230.18 seconds after impact

Visible fireball radius: 80947.2 km = 50268.2 miles
The fireball appears 1632.4 times larger than the sun
Thermal Exposure: 2.91 x 1013 Joules/m2
Duration of Irradiation: 115103 seconds
Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 252617.9

The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 2254.0 seconds.
Richter Scale Magnitude: 15.5 (This is greater than any shaking in recorded history)
Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 11270 km:

XI. Rails bent greatly. Underground pipelines completely out of service. General panic. Conspicuous cracks in ground.



The air blast will arrive at approximately 37566.7 seconds.
Peak Overpressure: 187119952.5 Pa = 1871.1995 bars = 26571.0333 psi
Max wind velocity: 10009.0 m/s = 22389.6 mph
Sound Intensity: 165 dB (Dangerously Loud)
Damage Description:

this thing is fun to play around with :D

SDM
2004-04-16, 12:50 AM
Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 11270.00 km = 6998.67 miles
Projectile Diameter: 2000000.00 m = 6560000.00 ft = 1242.00 miles
Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 72.00 km/s = 44.71 miles/s
Impact Angle: 90 degrees
Target Density: 3000 kg/m3
Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

Energy:
8.69 x 1031 Joules = 2.07 x 1016 MegaTons TNT
The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 4.0 x 1014years

Crater Size:
What does this mean?


Transient Crater Diameter: 10987.54 km = 6823.26 miles
Final Crater Diameter: 37045.38 km = 23005.18 miles

The crater formed is a complex crater.
Thermal Radiation:
What does this mean?


Time for maximum radiation: 1230.18 seconds after impact

Visible fireball radius: 80947.2 km = 50268.2 miles
The fireball appears 1632.4 times larger than the sun
Thermal Exposure: 2.91 x 1013 Joules/m2
Duration of Irradiation: 115103 seconds
Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 252617.9

The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 2254.0 seconds.
Richter Scale Magnitude: 15.5 (This is greater than any shaking in recorded history)
Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 11270 km:

XI. Rails bent greatly. Underground pipelines completely out of service. General panic. Conspicuous cracks in ground.



The air blast will arrive at approximately 37566.7 seconds.
Peak Overpressure: 187119952.5 Pa = 1871.1995 bars = 26571.0333 psi
Max wind velocity: 10009.0 m/s = 22389.6 mph
Sound Intensity: 165 dB (Dangerously Loud)
Damage Description:

this thing is fun to play around with :D
Sounds like what happend in my ass the last time I ate Stouffer's Brand Lasagna. :sick: