The shuttles gone.

[Mtx]

There's no way the Columbia survived. :(

[MrVicchio]

You are fucking cold hearted mother fucker.

My prayers right now are to thier families. Not Speculation on it being gone..

[Navaron]

That's horrible. They just started a program to take up a new teacher. Thats just terrible.

[Ludio]

They are both tragedies. 7 people dead and a major blow to the space program. Not much info now though, I wonder how it happened.

[Revolution]

WTF are you talking about??!?

[Hijinks]

:jawdrop:

[Ludio]

Watch the news. Columbia has blown up.

[Hamma]

www.cnn.com

There is no hope heh, its either all or nothing with such a complicated process.

:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
:( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Revolution]

Being a NASA born baby due to my parents............. AH FUCK HORSE SHIT DAMN IT TO HELL thats BULLSHIT!!!!!(sorry staff)

This day was looking good but not anymore......

I would like to send a prayer to all the families and friends of them. And pray for a miricle. They can happen. If you all would do that with me please.

I just checked CNN and BBC but they both did not confirm a disaster, just that they didnt know what happened and debrise. Maybe there is some hope. I dont have TV so I only read whats going on on the net.

I am praying now. If you flame me you should burn in HELL.

[Navaron]

NASA declared a disaster. Those guys are dead. It's a shame, but even if they got out before it blewup, they still don't have a chance. It's a bad thing.

[Civilian]

It's a pretty awful thing.

I had the misfortune of hearing it explode hear in McKinney. We heard 2 explosions or "booms"(the first likely being an explosion and the second likely being the shuttle's sonic boom) and it shook our windows.

A very sad day indeed.

[Revolution]

I just prayed miricles can happen.

As I posted earlier about the celestial planet allignment, I thought it was a good thing, and hope it still is.

[MrVicchio]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
NASA declared a disaster. Those guys are dead. It's a shame, but even if they got out before it blewup, they still don't have a chance. It's a bad thing.

Nav.. it was @200,000 ft AGL going 12,500 mph... you cant bail out up there..

Speculation: Shuttle is OLD and it suffered a complete structural failure.

[MrVicchio]

On launch day, a piece of insulating foam on the external fuel tank came off during liftoff and was believed to have struck the left wing of the shuttle.

Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission Control, had assured reporters Friday that engineers had concluded that any damage to the wing was considered minor and posed no safety hazard.

Taken from Fox News.

[Civilian]

According to Frank Kizis, a former NASA engineer(worked with propulsion) If there was enough damage to the Carbon-Carbon on the front of the wing(likely damaged on take-off by the insulation or ice falling from the fuel tanks) it could cause alot of yaw, so much in fact that it could cause the tail to break-off. It's all speculation at this point, but I would guess it has something to do with the insulating foam hitting the wing.

[Incompetent]

:tear:
Those things are getting way to old, i was hoping they would have the sense to phase them out before something aweful like this happened.

[diluted]

it angers me that bush's first response is "i hope it wun nun dem teriss" ugh.

[SleightOfHand]

The airframes were rated at 100 missions each, and the Colombia only had 28.

There have only been 113 shuttle flights *total.*

[MrVicchio]

Diluted, you fucking idiot. With the Isreali on board, the the security was super tight, and the media starting barking about "Was it Terrorist" and the white house press put out.. "No doesn't look like it"

The president was in Camp David, he's got to get back the White house, and then decided what to say.. Moron.

[diluted]

what did he say exactly anyway

[MrVicchio]

He hasnt spoken yet, that was just a white house Press message. Standard operations.

[Navaron]

Vic, what I was saying was the the shuttle only has ejection for the pilot and copilot, so even if they hopped, the rest died. Also, at that altitude and speed, they wouldn't have made it. You can't bail at mach 6, the body can't take it.

[Mtx]

Originally posted by MrVicchio
You are fucking cold hearted mother fucker.



What?!

:confused:

[Navaron]

O noooo

[MrVicchio]

Sorry, I really respect the Shuttle and Space Programs, and I heard a freaking line about "See what happens when you put a *** in space" Right before I posted here.. and my freaking nerves were shot.

[Airlift]

Don't turn a tragedy into a political debate. I was watching TV with my 4th grade class when the Challenger exploded and my heart and prayers go out to the families.

[Strygun]

They found a big piece of the shuttle in the median of a highway in texas.

From NBC news

[Hamma]

If this thread is turned into a political debate I will ban all those involved. :mad:

Lets keep the flaming and attacking of peoples opinions to a Minumum :|

http://www.dragonwolves.com/forums/images/smilies/salute.gif

[mistled]

No politics here Hamma. We're cool, just everyone's nerves are shot is all.

[Navaron]

It's always a shame to see people go out like that, not expecting it, with no real chance to prevent it. Like a car wreck, but more traumatic.

[Led]

:ugh:

[Bighoss]

shit happens I guess:tear:

I wish America could just buy some land in a desert and put up a lot of cheap buildings with no people, and then bomb the hell out of it too take out our anger on and then they could film it for us to watch

[Ludio]

What? :confused:

[�io]

:(

[Zanzibar]

hey hoss whatch how you type. i wasnt offened but if peeps get angered by
"There's no way the Columbia survived."
then they arent gonna like that. but i agree with you all. im from england and still it really does hurt. and i also feel for the isrealies (strangly) their first ever astronaut in space...
sumhow this game doesnt seem so appealing anymore. i dunno-itll wear off. but hamma. i think you should get rid of this thread. its just gonna be arguments and speculation and i think all that needs to be said has been said. for everyones sdaske- i personnaly dont want to lose any potentiol friends in n argument over this

[Bighoss]

revolution already started one about this minor tradgedy tragedy with me

[ABRAXAAS]

I told my roomate 2 days ago something was gonna happen ,Im just sad im right :confused:

[Sandtaco]

Speculation: Shuttle is OLD and it suffered a complete structural failure. Vic, your specualtion is partially wrong, while it probably does have something to do with the shuttle being so old. The shuttle was completely rebuilt earlier this year (coulda been a year ago). And also, Mtx said nothing wrong, I think he desverves an apology.

[Navaron]

:stupid: , also every five trips they do a complete system overhaul that includes but isn't limited to all boosters, nav comps, hydraulics, electronics, engine systems, and regulations systems being replaced. They are just in amazing shape. When that piece of Ice came off, it could have made enough of a gash that the tiles just couldn't protect that area of the wing and it sheered off, at mach 16 it's just too much pressure. My point is the last shuttle came down because of a brittle o ring. They are just such high performance machines that everything has to work 100% the way it is meant too.

Also, one thing that really bothers me is these newstations. Sure you can get a family member on television - but that doesn't make it right. Leave them be. These families however are some of the strongest people I have ever seen and I salute them.

[Airlift]

I agree, media executives feed on tragedy and conflict. I turned the shit off as soon as I got the basics of what happened, no thanks on the 3.7 million repeat showings.:mad:

[Bighoss]

I agree the media is retarded. They don't give a rats ass about news they just go for ratings. If the slightest thing happens that might be a terrorist attack they go nuts and act like we've been nuked so I can sit at home wondering thinking that I'm gonna die so I need to watch this channel more to find out if I am

[MrVicchio]

Thats why I watch Fox news. Not one griveing family member.

[Toimu]

http://www.dragonwolves.com/forums/images/smilies/salute.gif

I feel for all those who this hurt.

P.S. I don't watch T.V. at all. Well, a few movies every year. But I haven't watched T.V. (other than being at a friends house and me glancing at the T.V.) in 3-4 years. Just hate all the crap that is on. There are alot of good news radio stations.

[diluted]

:spam:

[Doobz]

damn, this....... sucks is the best word i guess

[SandTrout]

Shit happens, mistakes are made, lives are lost. My condolences to the families and friends of those onboard. Let's just try to find out what happened here so it won't again.

[Revolution]

I know you all probably dont listen to coast to coast am, but even the great Art Bell show is doing a special for the shuttle disaster.( I dont have TV just raido/internet.)

God Bless their families/friends and the Space Program. It is essential to our survival as a race, IMO, and their sacrafice will not go in vein(God willing, please)

Dont flame on this thread give me a FUKIN break. :mad:

Show some compassion and :love: for ONCE!!!

[NewmanOnIsland]

"The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted, it belongs to the brave."
-President Reagan, speaking after the Jan. 28, 1986 Challenger explosion.

We have lost some of humanities brave. But I know in my heart there are those among you that will grow to become the brave of the future.
Forward..always.
NewmanOnIsland


flags at half mast folks.

[KoldFusion]

this is a terroble tragedy.... my condolences go out to their families. Space travel is a dangerous thing.... I think we have been lucky there hasn't been more accidents. I think the piece of insulation impacting the wing my have been an oversight on their part however.... I just I don't live to see another space tragedy... I still remember what i was doing when challenger blew up....

[MrVicchio]

They need to do a 21st Century Shuttle Fleet.

[KoldFusion]

Wasn't there a program that got scrapped during the Clinton Adminstration the was to build a next gen shuttle.... it was more like a plane as far as take off went.... i could be wrong

[Hamma]

I'm not sure when/if it was scrapped. I know they were working on things, problem is money was/is so short they could not continue it.

[Revolution]

Originally posted by NewmanOnIsland
"The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted, it belongs to the brave."
-President Reagan, speaking after the Jan. 28, 1986 Challenger explosion.

We have lost some of humanities brave. But I know in my heart there are those among you that will grow to become the brave of the future.
Forward..always.
NewmanOnIsland


flags at half mast folks.

Very nice newman. I support your response. Only hope some of us will strive to ........