View Full Version : Plasma or Frag?
Jaged
2004-04-18, 06:45 AM
Ahh, the age old question. What type of grenade should I use with my new-found love, the thumper. I have been using frag grenades to great effect for some time now. Would plasma be better for mowing down infantry?
ChewyLSB
2004-04-18, 08:13 AM
Use Plasma Grenades for Infantry, Frag for Vehicles, and Jammer for mines/vehicles. If I remember correctly (it's been awhile since I've used the thumper), it takes 3 direct plasma grenades to kill a rexo.
MrPaul
2004-04-18, 09:08 AM
Don't use the thumper for infantry... unless you're indoors and want to bounce the 'nades off walls. I much prefer the rocklet rifle, aim for the feet and you can kill agile's really easily, rexos.. not as easily but it's not great challenge, and as for MAXes.. well... I've done it a few times, but .. meh.
nCoOnC
2004-04-18, 11:12 AM
Plasma is most likely better when using the thumper defending a base. Frag to me is good for more long range combat.
nCoOnC
2004-04-18, 11:15 AM
Umm, why does it bleep my signature out for my char: ICanNeverThink Of Names? My name doesn't have spaces but if you write it without spaces it bleeps part of it.
MrPaul
2004-04-18, 11:32 AM
Because the letters O, F and N are together. Maybe. Even though we have this smiley: :***: bleh...
EDIT: ROFL! Go on advanced post and look under the smilies at the "more" and you get the option to put this critter in > http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/images/smilies/***.gif but the name is: :o f n: (without spaces) so it won't allow it. Hamma, maybe ye need to sort that out.
XxXMaRiNeXxX
2004-04-18, 11:34 AM
Maybe becuase those letters are ***
:)
Yah, its O F N...wish I knew what that meant
MrPaul
2004-04-18, 11:36 AM
Maybe becuase those letters are ***
:)
Yah, its O F N...wish I knew what that meant
old phucking news
Otherick
2004-04-18, 11:54 AM
I prefer Farg to Plasma because 1 It damages health a bit more then plasma (at least in me past) and 2 It because its more controled that means less grief
ZionsFire
2004-04-18, 11:57 AM
Frag for MAX's and plasma for infantry.
Sputty
2004-04-18, 12:47 PM
I always used Plasma. IMO, the best grenade over all. It does a lot of damage to infantry, while it may allow them to heal a bit, thjey'll be so obsessed with the plasma they're easy pickings for you or someone else.
Deadlock
2004-04-18, 01:06 PM
if its a crowd, stick with frag, they kill quicker... if its sparse defense and ur not in danger of grief go for plazma, it doesnt kill as quick but it runs a mental attack on your attackers. Their hud flashes read and they run off to heal not leaving any time for them to judge ur actual numbers.
LimpBIT
2004-04-18, 01:30 PM
Use the thumper for everything. I do and i manage just fine.
Jaged
2004-04-18, 02:26 PM
Could someone tell me the numbers. Like how much health and armor damage each one does. How long the damage takes for plasma ect.
Could someone tell me the numbers. Like how much health and armor damage each one does. How long the damage takes for plasma ect.
I use frag for everything, plasma is way to grieflock.
AltaEgo
2004-04-18, 03:36 PM
I prefer Farg to Plasma because 1 It damages health a bit more then plasma (at least in me past) and 2 It because its more controled that means less grief
I agree. Always used Frag myself. Very powerful for killing Troops, MAX Units, and Vehicles.
scarpas
2004-04-18, 06:19 PM
i belive plasma is weaker but has a bigger blast radius, while frag is stronger but has a smaller blast radius.
i like all three nades, they all have thier uses, but if its just a hand nade then go with the jammer, its an awesome tool.
Black
2004-04-18, 07:22 PM
O F N thing is filtered because squeeky was using it WAY to often....
Acaila
2004-04-18, 10:41 PM
Plasma kills a rexo in 2 direct hits. Plasma is definately superior, though you get less grief if you chance to hit a friendly with frag. The whole "frag is better at MAXs and Vehicles" is a stupid argument, if you're shooting frag nades at vehicles, you're in a bad situation anyway. I don't know the exact figures, but the amount of AV damage caused by frag cannot be that much higher than Plasma in any case, I regularly take out MAXs using plasma, doesn't seem to take any longer than using frag.
UncleDynamite
2004-04-18, 11:12 PM
Personally, I found out that Frag is better if you have good aim. A direct hit with a Frag does a lot of damage. Plasma is good if you have poor aim, or if you're too far away to reliably get direct hits. That's because an enemy will always get tagged with plasma as long as he's in the splash radius of the grenade, but how far away he is from the center of the explosion doesn't seem to matter. Frag grenades, however, have splash damage that degrades the further the enemy is from the explosion center, so accurate shots mean a lot.
drsomewhere
2004-04-18, 11:19 PM
40 plus kills per base defense per hour with thumper grenades. You are one safe mother sitting from the battlements taking out groups with your plasma. Never tried frag, but plasma is for massive amounts of kills. 3 per rexo is a sure thing, great for supression and stopping advancement. Plasma all the way.
Rayder
2004-04-18, 11:51 PM
*Sigh* Frag grenades are better for Agile and lower. Plasma is better for Rexos and MAXs. Neither are good for armor. It's as simple as that.
Real Mulambo
2004-04-19, 07:48 AM
I had to get rid of the thumper because of the NOOB puppies who like to chase the balls.
Bounce one around a wall and off they go. Fetch boy fetch.
Major grief
SilverLord
2004-04-19, 10:55 AM
I wish I had the certs for SA. The Thumper is the easiest killing machince when defending a base by far.
Jaged
2004-04-19, 03:33 PM
I tested it and plasma kills a rexo in two direct hits. Frag takes three. Plasma has more splash dammage. You get to see it you hit with plasma, wich is also usefull for tracking cloakers before DL charges. I love the psychological effect of plasma. It sends enemies (and stupid friendlies) running back jamming the medkit button looking for repairs. It only gets you grief if you use it in crowds. Use something like a gauss for that. Frag does less dammage, has less splash, and less psychological effect. Plasma>frag IMO.
Red October
2004-04-19, 04:09 PM
As an infil I use grenades (hand tossed of course) pretty much exclusively. My personal experience, use plasma outside. Larger area of splash so you don't have to be too terribly acurate. Its nice to run up to a wall and lob plasma (in your case shoot) over it. Nothing like catching a few enemies running through the courtyard off guard...and with plasma, its a good chance it will happen. However, I almost never use plasma indoors, like it was said earlier, instant grief machine. Particularly in a crowded battle and someone bumps you hard and you end up throwing the nade to the wall next to you. Hurt your troops and kill yourself all with one lob. But on certain occasions its a beautiful weapon (such as a tower basement full of nc or vs)....lots of death.
Frag nades are wonderful indoors. Frag tend to be concentrated in smaller areas hence it just kind of fits in small corridors, doorways, etc. Plus less grief from the guy's that run right into the area (even though they see you lobing).
For vehicles, I usually lob a jammer on it and then follow up with frag.
Just my personal prefrence.
Lonehunter
2004-04-19, 05:11 PM
Thumper + Plasmas + Decent skill = Awesome
Thumper + Frags + Excellent Skill = Even better
Plasmas are awesome, but when the skill is applied, frags will own.
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