So, what is tommorow?

[Vick]

First person to get it right gets a weed cookie.

*looks at 1024*

[Bighoss]

tuesday?

[Derfud]

4:20, the stupid day where all the kids skip school to go and smoke pot. It's a retarded idea.

[Dharkbayne]

...:spam:...

[Vick]

4:20, the stupid day where all the kids skip school to go and smoke pot. It's a retarded idea.

wow, you got it in less then a minute!

I am shocked, anyway, I just wanted to make this thread because I dont do that alot. :(

I am a post reply whore.

You can delete this now.

[Everay]

i thought it was 4 20 pm when your supposed to do that, but, its a pretty stupid idea, i mean, theres no scientific fact proving that smoking pot at this time or another time is better. fuckin stupid potheads.

[Dharkbayne]

...
It's the 19th. And it's 1:27 PM.

[I Hate Pants]

YAY! Hopefully no one will show up for classes than and I get to go home early.

[DeadTeddy]

my birthday, which also happens to be hitler's birthday...

anyway, why do people skip school on 20/4?

[Kyonye]

:) can't wait....... I rarely do it and why not celebrate the history of weed while doing it with thousands of people.

[SkunkPunk]

4:20, the stupid day where all the kids skip school to go and smoke pot. It's a retarded idea.

Well maybe I think the the name derfud is a retarted name, you dont like it? Good you get a fuckin cookie.

i thought it was 4 20 pm when your supposed to do that, but, its a pretty stupid idea, i mean, theres no scientific fact proving that smoking pot at this time or another time is better. fuckin stupid potheads.

Its a tradition among stoner culture... All the religeons have their own holidays, so should we. And nobody said smokin weed at that time is better, maybe if you knew anything about the origin of 4:20... Im not here to give a history lesson but it all started as a bunch of highschool dopers who would smoke up at 420 as tradition, then the tradition spread throughout the country and is now international. This was the generation before me(where everyone smoked weed), it wasnt some tight ass generation where people are afraid to have fun and have to ruin others fun because they arent having fun. Now if you will excuse me...

/me rolls up a joint

[Kyonye]

i thought it was 4 20 pm when your supposed to do that, but, its a pretty stupid idea, i mean, theres no scientific fact proving that smoking pot at this time or another time is better. fuckin stupid potheads.


Please don't talk of things you do not know of.....it has been proven hundreds of times it is good for medicinal use with many different illnesses......fuckin people like you are the reason alot of my friends and family have been suffering..because you guys don't know the fucking truth about pot. you want the truth? READ....it may help. don't just go off what you watch on TV commercial because that stuff is complete bullshit....

http://www.norml.com/ there ya go, fucking learn the truth.

[I Hate Pants]

meh! Maybe i'll have a toke too tommorow. I haven't gotten stone in months now. Hopefully my friends will have some on them tommorow.

[Dharkbayne]

I don't see it as any different as smoking cigarretes.

[I Hate Pants]

Trust me. There's a big difference.

The medical reasons alone are a difference. Cigarettes are just disgusting.

[SkunkPunk]

I don't see it as any different as smoking cigarretes.

hmm well you get HIGH... and pants, u gotta have more than a toke... not getting stoned on 4:20 is like not openeing presents on christmas( unless for some other religeon crap, that i know aztec is gonna freak about me saying)

[Everay]

Please don't talk of things you do not know of.....it has been proven hundreds of times it is good for medicinal use with many different illnesses......fuckin people like you are the reason alot of my friends and family have been suffering..because you guys don't know the fucking truth about pot. you want the truth? READ....it may help. don't just go off what you watch on TV commercial because that stuff is complete bullshit....



hfs stfu, i never said anything about medicinal weed, i said i found it really stupid that 420 is the best time to smoke pot, and i thank the skunk for the lesson. personaly im all for smoking it for medical purposes, and im pretty sure there are no long term side effects when you smoke it for recreational purposes.

if im ever wrong about something, dont give me a lecture, correct me.

[I Hate Pants]

hmm well you get HIGH... and pants, u gotta have more than a toke... not getting stoned on 4:20 is like not openeing presents on christmas( unless for some other religeon crap, that i know aztec is gonna freak about me saying)

I've gotten stoned 2 or 3 times before. I just meant I haven't even toked up in months now. Seeing as im not working tommorow I guess i'll go for it.

[Kyonye]

Hmmm....Statistics show:

425,000/year die from cigarettes

80,000/year die from Alcohol

0/year die from Marijuana


now saying there is no difference between marijuana and cigarettes is like saying you see no difference between a fucking horse and a cow.....

[FlakMan]

Doesn't weed kill brain cells?

[Fragmatic]

Doesn't weed kill brain cells?

Doesn't alcohol kill brain cells?

[Spee]

Isnt 4/20 also HITLERS BIRTHDAY?!

[SkunkPunk]

Isnt 4/20 also HITLERS BIRTHDAY?!

Yes, quite ironic isnt it?

[Fragmatic]

Isnt 4/20 also HITLERS BIRTHDAY?!

Yes, read the fucking thread, it's already been pointed out.

[I Hate Pants]

Doesn't alcohol kill brain cells?

owned

[Kyonye]

Please no one argue weed..your ass will be handed to you :p

[SkunkPunk]

So, Whats everyone got planned for tomorow?

Im makin tomorow golden, I havent smoked up in about a week, and after tomorow im taking a break because of some personal reasons. Im gonna roll up a nice 6 paper for myself, and have a bowl or 2 with my friends.

[oddfish]

all i'm going to say is this: I'm a freshman in college and one thing i've noticed is that high school was: YEAH, LET'S ALL GET HIGH, it's 4 20! now it's: hey, it's monday, this sucks, let's get stoned.

I rarely ever smoke weed. ever. but i do every once in a great while. in my opinion the effects of smoking weed are far less detrimental than the ones achieved by drinking alcohol. and, my other point is this: if smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol is legal, why isn't smoking pot? politics, yeah. but, real reasons, someone tell me one, and it had better be full proof. my roommate smokes regularly and i'll get him to refute your ass no matter how good your argument is. haha. ;)

[Everay]

it makes people go insane and they start to kill people!!!!!oneone!!!111

[Fragmatic]

it makes people go insane and they start to kill people!!!!!oneone!!!111

Quite the opposite.

[Everay]

notice the !!!!oneone!!!111 that means it was a joke, however, in actuality thats one of the original reasons it was banned, however not true it may be, people belived it because of proproganda.

[I Hate Pants]

it makes people go insane and they start to kill people!!!!!oneone!!!111

i have yet to see that.

[SkunkPunk]

notice the !!!!oneone!!!111 that means it was a joke, however, in actuality thats one of the original reasons it was banned, however not true it may be, people belived it because of proproganda.

OK... Wrong again everay... This is the last post im making in attempt to correcting people, it was "banned" because of racial matters, which im not going to get into right now.

*edit* refer to my other post, so whats everyone got planned for tomorow?

[Kyonye]

Please no one argue weed..your ass will be handed to you :p


must I quote myself? ^^


cigarettes are still legal because the cig companies basically bribe the government to keep it legal. alcohol will never become illegal because too much of it has religious or nationality tradition connection....being the US is the most diverse country in the world.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

I don't smoke. I may in the future, bot not at the moment. I have no issues with smoking pot, as I live in a town centered around the 7-11 and copious marijuana smoking (noticing the link here?). So no, I won't be smoking for 4:20, but that's more out of indifference then personal beliefs.

If any of the more educated on the subject wish to correct me, go ahead.

[Kyonye]

I don't smoke. I may in the future, bot not at the moment. I have no issues with smoking pot, as I live in a town centered around the 7-11 and copious marijuana smoking (noticing the link here?). So no, I won't be smoking for 4:20, but that's more out of indifference then personal beliefs.

If any of the more educated on the subject wish to correct me, go ahead.


lol, there is nothing to correct. all you said was you weren't gonna smoke it....

[SkunkPunk]

must I quote myself? ^^


cigarettes are still legal because the cig companies basically bribe the government to keep it legal. alcohol will never become illegal because too much of it has religious or nationality tradition connection....being the US is the most diverse country in the world.

More diverse than canada? A country based on diversity?

[Kyonye]

More diverse than canada? A country based on diversity?


Both country's are based on diversity but i'd still say we are more diverse. that also comes from beings many times larger then canada. you may have to correct me on this but i think you guys only have around 22 million people, right? correct me if i'm wrong.

[oddfish]

More diverse than canada? A country based on diversity?

i think he just means we have more hispanics.

(prepares to be flamed by everyone)

no, actually, that's the middle-school hunky-dory way to view the U.S, the whole: COUNTRY BUILT ON MANY RACES AND CREEDS! but really, this country is kind of fucked up when it comes to diversity. we have all kinds of people here, but most of them don't get along. oh well. i'm a little whitey white boy, cracka. may i burn in hell for eternity + 2. then again, i could brag about having all sorts of friends who "happen to be black," or "happen to be hispanic," or "happen to be _________" ... sigh... USA.. i love it here, but it is so fucked up.

i can fight a war but i can't have a beer, i can mary my girlfriend but i can't mary my boyfriend, if i'm a woman i can't sell sex but i can get an abortion because it's my body and i can do what i want with it.. this country is so ass backwards. eek. but god bless the place. it fucking tries. ... sigh...

[SkunkPunk]

In total numbers the USA is more diverse... simply because there are more of you, in percentages, well im pretty sure canada is the most diverse.

wow this thread got derailed, so... ill ask again, whats everyone got planned for the great 4:20?

[Kyonye]

i think he just means we have more hispanics.

(prepares to be flamed by everyone)

no, actually, that's the middle-school hunky-dory way to view the U.S, the whole: COUNTRY BUILT ON MANY RACES AND CREEDS! but really, this country is kind of fucked up when it comes to diversity. we have all kinds of people here, but most of them don't get along. oh well. i'm a little whitey white boy, cracka. may i burn in hell for eternity + 2. then again, i could brag about having all sorts of friends who "happen to be black," or "happen to be hispanic," or "happen to be _________" ... sigh... USA.. i love it here, but it is so fucked up.

i can fight a war but i can't have a beer, i can mary my girlfriend but i can't mary my boyfriend, if i'm a woman i can't sell sex but i can get an abortion because it's my body and i can do what i want with it.. this country is so ass backwards. eek. but god bless the place. it fucking tries. ... sigh...


you are right about that....but all countries have problems.....and the reason we have alot of problems partly comes from our diversity.......Much <3 for the country though..

[Dharkbayne]

I'm pretty su- WHO THE FUCK CARES


Really, why the hell are you arguing about which country is more ethinically diverce.

[Indecisive]

Drugs suck.

[BizSAR]

Glad to see some informed posts in this thread :rolleyes:

Marijuana is a mediciinal herb used throughout time for diverse healing effects on the body. It is only one of very few psychoactive substances known by medical science to have IT'S OWN receptor cells in the brain, instead of most psychoactive and non-psychoactive substances that mutate to fit receptors not intended for them (cocaine being a perfect example). It has yet to be scientifically proven that it is harmful to the human body, hindered by the fact that all studies on the plant were made illegal by the United States government approximately 30 years ago, due in part to a heavy lobby by pharmaceutical companies (mainly DuPont) who would stand to lose the most financially, if the plant were made even medicinally viable in the eyes of the United States government, which it sadly isn't. There have been no reported deaths by marijuana overdose in the history of medical science.

420 is a code that marijuana-smokers use. Over the past 40 years, it has meant anything from a time/date for all marijuana smokers to "light-up", thereby producing a feeling of comradre with other marijuana smokers, to a code used to sell the plant. There are many legends surrounding how "420" became synonymous with marijuana smoking. One of the most widely believed is that in the 60's, "420" was the San Francisco police department's code for marijuana-smoking in progress, although that fact has not been substantiated.

It is felt that a marijuana smoker feels as one with the community of other marijuana-smokers by celebrating "420" at 4:20 AM/PM and lighting up, the feeling being that many like-minded indviduals will be doing the same in unison. 4:20AM/PM on April 20th is considered by many to be the "Hippy New Year", much like the Roman New Year on 1/1, and is surrounded by much fanfare.

I could go on. Don't get me started. This is NOT a subject to argue about in a thread I have access to. Trust me.

[Indecisive]

http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/harmful-effects-of-marijuana.htm

[EarlyDawn]

Marijuana is a mediciinal herb used throughout time for diverse healing effects on the body. It is only one of very few psychoactive substances known by medical science to have IT'S OWN receptor cells in the brain, instead of most psychoactive and non-psychoactive substances that mutate to fit receptors not intended for themThat's interesting. Does that say something about our biology or brain structure?

[BizSAR]

Unsubstaniated bunk,Gohan. As with most organizations like this one (you'll find partially funded by the US government directly or indirectly), there is no legitimate scientific proof to back up their claims.

I'll be adding footnotes to my previous post, providing references once I get home from work.

It IS interesting about the receptor cells, but like so much of the rest of the brain, modern science has yet to understand why the brain is built the way it is.

[eXoSloth]

0/year die from Marijuana


Bull.Shit.

[Dharkbayne]

Bull.Shit.

[Kyonye]

Prove me wrong then....it is impossible to die from Marijuana.

to overdose in weed you would have to smoke 15 pounds of it straight, without stopping, and you would have to eat 55 pounds of it straight, which is physically impossible.


now if you drive under the influence and crash your car and get killed, you died from a car accident, not weed. its not weed that made you get into the car, its your own stupidity.

If someone died from smoking weed, it was laced with crack or formaldehyde (embalming fluid). it wasn't the weed that killed the person, it was the other crap it was laced with by some idiot. they call it Dirt Weed, because thats what it is. Smoking Weed can not kill you.

no way to die from weed.

[Dharkbayne]

now if you drive under the influence and crash your car and get killed, you died from a car accident, not weed. its not weed that made you get into the car, its your own stupidity.


So, technically, by those guidelines, alcohol hasn't caused a single car wreck either?

[SkunkPunk]

So, technically, by those guidelines, alcohol hasn't caused a single car wreck either?

Technically you are correct

[Indecisive]

If a substance affects your abillity to react, then it the damn drugs fault.

If tests have been outlawed, how can you scientifically prove that weed is NOT harmfull?

You are trying to tell me that everything on that list is bull? Bull.

[Kyonye]

So, technically, by those guidelines, alcohol hasn't caused a single car wreck either?


its the stupidity of the person to drive drunk.....

[Vick]

If a substance affects your abillity to react, then it the damn drugs fault.

If tests have been outlawed, how can you scientifically prove that weed is NOT harmfull?

You are trying to tell me that everything on that list is bull? Bull.
I can speak from experiance, not that I am a scientist or anyone qualified to speak on the matter, but still.

Its all bullshit, just not true.

[Indecisive]

Bull.Shit.

[Kyonye]

If a substance affects your abillity to react, then it the damn drugs fault.

If tests have been outlawed, how can you scientifically prove that weed is NOT harmfull?

You are trying to tell me that everything on that list is bull? Bull.


If you open your eyes a little bit more, you'll see that they Marijuana and Hemp are constantly tested in other parts of the world, I.E. Europe. Hemp, which is the male form of the plant, is yet again becoming one of europes largest exports and trade items. also, it is legal in some parts of the world to smoke Marijuana.... the US is not the center of the Marijuana shit....they just make the greatest deal out of it....

also, it doesn't speed up your heartbeat.....It actually slows down your heartbeat....which is fine.

Also, Like most things in this world, yes it harms you a very small amount. if you placed Weed on the list of what causes fatalities the most, it would be LAST on the list.

Good fact to know:
the AMA (American Medical Association) was one of the first groups to fight the Marijuana prohibition that started in the 1930's.

also, whoeve it was that said the reason Marijuana was made illegal was, yes it was basically started because of racial issues but then spread and became more then just that. the media hyped it up to the point where people were afraid of it, bullshit I might add.

[1024]

I don't do that stuff anymore. http://forums.bohicagaming.com/html/emoticons/dry.gif

People who drugs come off as weak minded and lazy to me. You don't need an external substance to get high.

[Octavian]

Exactly, but Marijuana may fuck up your brain enough to make you want to kill yourself.


EDIT - It WILL fuck up your brain

[Kyonye]

I do it for many reasons.

1. yes i like the feeling that it gives me. why? because i have a depression problem..i have no reason not to admit it, especially when it comes to Marijuana. and also because i do like the feeling.

2. why should i sit back and not help prove something is actually good for you by doing it myself and showing people that nothing has ever happened to me, to this day.

[JetRaiden]

First person to get it right gets a weed cookie.

*looks at 1024*

what is 1024 the signature stoner of PSU? cool. :cool:

[eXoSloth]

2. why should i sit back and not help prove something is actually good for you by doing it myself and showing people that nothing has ever happened to me, to this day.

So you're saying that smoking pot actually makes you healthier in some way? Explain.

[Indecisive]

If you have depression problems, you go see a fucking shrink, not go smoke some damn substance that will make you addicted, and even more depressed if you ever stop.

[Dharkbayne]

Technically you are correct

So, technically, if I were to shoot you in the head it wouldn't be me that killed you, but the bullet? And cigarettes don't kill you, cancer does?

[Smaug]

Prove me wrong then....it is impossible to die from Marijuana.

to overdose in weed you would have to smoke 15 pounds of it straight, without stopping, and you would have to eat 55 pounds of it straight, which is physically impossible.


now if you drive under the influence and crash your car and get killed, you died from a car accident, not weed. its not weed that made you get into the car, its your own stupidity.

If someone died from smoking weed, it was laced with crack or formaldehyde (embalming fluid). it wasn't the weed that killed the person, it was the other crap it was laced with by some idiot. they call it Dirt Weed, because thats what it is. Smoking Weed can not kill you.

no way to die from weed.

Weed is just as carcenogenic as cigarettes are. You can die of weed, just like you can die of cigarettes.

[Vick]

I don't do that stuff anymore. http://forums.bohicagaming.com/html/emoticons/dry.gif

People who drugs come off as weak minded and lazy to me. You don't need an external substance to get high.
Fine, more for me. :)

As for the weed haters, chill with the ignorance, no one is making you do it anyway. Although I bet you would like it if you tried.

[Indecisive]

Damn potheads.

[eXoSloth]

Damn potheads.

Indeed

[Everay]

OK... Wrong again everay... This is the last post im making in attempt to correcting people, it was "banned" because of racial matters, which im not going to get into right now.

*edit* refer to my other post, so whats everyone got planned for tomorow?


well i dont recall the original people petitioning for it to be banned, go to congress and tell them such things, no, instead they used medical reasons that were bogus, yes, underneath it all it was the get the mexicans out of texas and 3 other states.

[Kyonye]

So you're saying that smoking pot actually makes you healthier in some way? Explain.

Is drinking healthy for you? Is eating Mcdonalds, or any other fast food healthy for you? Is getting too little of sleep or getting too much healthy for you? is the carbon monoxide that cars produce healthy for you? is TV healthy? is sitting at a computer screen playing games healthy for you? every single thing i have listed is worse then weed.

now i know many of you are gonna be like "yeah but i don't do that stuff," well who cares that you don't do it. this is a general thing, not directed toward one person alone. the day you see someone directly die from weed is the day you see a fucking pig fly (without an airplane or any other stupid shit to help it along. i mean a fucking pig flying, and nothing else up there to help it).



If you have depression problems, you go see a fucking shrink, not go smoke some damn substance that will make you addicted, and even more depressed if you ever stop.

Oh wow......IGNORANCE.....that is the only word that comes into my head when i see this. Weed has been proven over and over and over to NOT be ADDICTIVE like other drugs and cigarettes. what makes weed give you that "high" is the THC. thc is no an addictive chemical. It does not make you violent. what it does is make you happy, hungry, and tired. i've been around alot of people who do it, and i mean alot of people, and never have i seen anyone ever become violent. Never has anyone ever become "Addicted" to it.

Weed is just as carcenogenic as cigarettes are. You can die of weed, just like you can die of cigarettes.


and no it is not.....Just go take a look at what is in Cigarettes....Cigarettes contain fucking Cyanide <==== CYANIDE...that is very deadly to the body..i will say it again..VERY DEADLY..reason they put it in cigarettes? it keeps the little "buzz" you get from cigarettes going a little bit longer....

[Rbstr]

Damn potheads.

indeed
Is drinking healthy for you? Is eating Mcdonalds, or any other fast food healthy for you? Is getting too little of sleep or getting too much healthy for you? is the carbon monoxide that cars produce healthy for you? is TV healthy? is sitting at a computer screen playing games healthy for you? every single thing i have listed is worse then weed.

Now to go down the line of stupidness:
Yes drinking can be healthy for your heart in modereation, but Pot has no healing effects the only thing it does is reduce pain.

Fast food may not be healthy but what does that have to do with addictive substances? It can make you fat and yes its a health rick but I think its safe to say that just like pot it kills you indirectly so it doesn't count.

Yeah you don't realy inhale much CO unless youve started your car up in a garage because your in a deep depression caused by being addicted to pot.

Is TV unhealthy in any way? Oh but you can sit down for Days at a time and develop sores and get fat!

Computer games go in the exact same place as TV except they can realy improve your handeye coordination and quickthinking skills.

Smoking pot has just the same risks at smoking cigarettes, and more. I'm fine with seeing a person trying it once that poses no real risk to anyone unless they are being stupid about it, and maybe using it in a medical sense when other drugs don't work to kill the pain(though opiates are as bad/wore in some cases). But you stupid addicted potheads thats say its the best thing in the world and even claiming its HEALTHY for you realy piss me off


Oh wow......IGNORANCE.....that is the only word that comes into my head when i see this.

yep

EDIT: rant added

[Dharkbayne]

Is drinking healthy for you? Is eating Mcdonalds, or any other fast food healthy for you? Is getting too little of sleep or getting too much healthy for you? is the carbon monoxide that cars produce healthy for you? is TV healthy? is sitting at a computer screen playing games healthy for you? every single thing i have listed is worse then weed.

now i know many of you are gonna be like "yeah but i don't do that stuff," well who cares that you don't do it. this is a general thing, not directed toward one person alone. the day you see someone directly die from weed is the day you see a fucking pig fly (without an airplane or any other stupid shit to help it along. i mean a fucking pig flying, and nothing else up there to help it).





Oh wow......IGNORANCE.....that is the only word that comes into my head when i see this. Weed has been proven over and over and over to NOT be ADDICTIVE like other drugs and cigarettes. what makes weed give you that "high" is the THC. thc is no an addictive chemical. It does not make you violent. what it does is make you happy, hungry, and tired. i've been around alot of people who do it, and i mean alot of people, and never have i seen anyone ever become violent. Never has anyone ever become "Addicted" to it.




and no it is not.....Just go take a look at what is in Cigarettes....Cigarettes contain fucking Cyanide <==== CYANIDE...that is very deadly to the body..i will say it again..VERY DEADLY..reason they put it in cigarettes? it keeps the little "buzz" you get from cigarettes going a little bit longer....


Prove it.

[Smaug]

and no it is not.....Just go take a look at what is in Cigarettes....Cigarettes contain fucking Cyanide <==== CYANIDE...that is very deadly to the body..i will say it again..VERY DEADLY..reason they put it in cigarettes? it keeps the little "buzz" you get from cigarettes going a little bit longer....

You're right that cigarrettes have more harmful chemicals, but weed is just as(if not more) than likely to cause cancer. Inhaling hot smoke into your lungs is not good for you, no matter how many times you tell yourself it is.

[Kyonye]

Damn potheads.


First off, i'm not a pothead.....a pothead is someone who smokes it as much as a person who loves everquest, plays everquest...

my friend used to play everquest like it was his life. he would wake up, go to school, come home, play everquest, get one hour of sleep, wake up and do it all over again. a pothead is someone who will wake up and smoke, got to school, come home and smoke, and then smoke some more later on.

i find it rude to be making an assumption like that.

I respect everyone's opinion. if you don't like pot, then you don't like pot. what i have a problem with is when people say shit like "pot makes you violent," or "pot is and addictive drug." thats what i find to be very disrespectful.

get your facts straight people...

[Indecisive]

Give. Me. Some. Fucking. Proof. You havent even given me a damn website link. Where are the tests that prove what you said.

And btw, even if weed is what you said it is, you are still hiding your damn problems behind a god damn substance. Face reality you pussy pothead.

[FlakMan]

I have proven that I really don't know much about pot at all

Can you become addicted to it?

[Smaug]

I'm pretty sure it is not addictive.

[Kyonye]

You're right that cigarrettes have more harmful chemicals, but weed is just as(if not more) than likely to cause cancer. Inhaling hot smoke into your lungs is not good for you, no matter how many times you tell yourself it is.


you've got that right smaug. i never said that inhaling hot smoke was perfectly good for you. but remember there are many different ways to smoke it. take baking for instance. all baking does is take the THC right out of the plant and then you inhale it, without the side effects of the heat you are talking about. also, weed is no where near as likely to cause cancer....Cigarettes are far worse then weed. there is only one way Cigarettes can be less harmful then weed...and that way is to just get rid of Cigarettes altogether.

[Smaug]

And thus it is settled :).

[Kyonye]

Give. Me. Some. Fucking. Proof. You havent even given me a damn website link. Where are the tests that prove what you said.

And btw, even if weed is what you said it is, you are still hiding your damn problems behind a god damn substance. Face reality you pussy pothead.


i've faced reality.....and don't you ever fucking call me a pussy....you don't fucking know my reality....
and yes i have given you a link. here it is again, since you did come into this debate late.

http://www.norml.com/

[JetRaiden]

weed has a 0% fatality rate. no one has ever died from it. you cant "overdose" on it like you can with narcotics. you can smoke 900 joints in one sitting and not die. Ive done it alot, and I never had any long term effects.

[Kyonye]

weed has a 0% fatality rate. no one has ever died from it. you cant "overdose" on it like you can with narcotics. you can smoke 900 joints in one sitting and not die. Ive done it alot, and I never had any long term effects.


JetRaiden, i know you are helping a good cause, but yes you can OD. it is impossible given the sheer amounts you need to smoke to OD but you can. it is one of my many above posts.

[Indecisive]

Sorry, but im not being fucking politically correct over damn narcotics.

[Octavian]

Sorry, but im not being fucking politically correct over damn narcotics.

I know you're helping a good cause Gohan, but please use correct grammar and punctuation. Otherwise they may think we're stupid.

[Indecisive]

You're such a troll Oct.


In closing I say this: dont offer me pot, and dont run over any kids, and i'll leave you alone.

[Dharkbayne]

i've faced reality.....and don't you ever fucking call me a pussy....you don't fucking know my reality....
and yes i have given you a link. here it is again, since you did come into this debate late.

http://www.norml.com/

You linked a pot smoker advocate's website, pretty damned obvious it's going to be biased.

[Kyonye]

You linked a pot smoker advocate's website, pretty damned obvious it's going to be biased.


like the link gohan gave us earlier wasn't biased?

[SkunkPunk]

www.erowid.org is your fucking proof... so you say inhaling hot smoke gives you cancer? use a water bong! still not satisfied? eat it! even better... make a batch of hash brownies...

[Octavian]

You're such a troll Oct.


In closing I say this: dont offer me pot, and dont run over any kids, and i'll leave you alone.

No I'm just offering you advice. To help ban drugs...more.

[Dharkbayne]

Yet again, a stoner website.

[Rbstr]

Your never going to get an unbiased website about this issue. Never. your Either going to get a bunch of Pothead's that want to get high leagaly or a bunch of conservatives that think its poisoning the mind.

I personaly don't see why anyone would need or want a drug,

[Kyonye]

Yet again, a stoner website.


that last one was not a stoner website....

[JetRaiden]

JetRaiden, i know you are helping a good cause, but yes you can OD. it is impossible given the sheer amounts you need to smoke to OD but you can. it is one of my many above posts.

if you smoke 2 pounds in like a day. maybe, I guess so. but by the time you got through the first couple ounces youd be too fucked up to light another one.

[Octavian]

that last one was not a stoner website....


Kyonye, you're fighting a losing battle here. Give up.

Now can we all be peaceful?

[Smaug]

www.erowid.org is your fucking proof... so you say inhaling hot smoke gives you cancer? use a water bong! still not satisfied? eat it! even better... make a batch of hash brownies...

I wasn't saying that smoking(or whatever) pot was wrong or right. I was just trying to help with the facts.

[Kyonye]

Kyonye, you're fighting a losing battle here. Give up.

Now can we all be peaceful?


I am not fighting a losing battle...some of you guys are just not seeing the truth...who cares if i'm the only one left here battling for Marijuana being legal...i'm still fighting. i will be peaceful about it, i just don't like people being ignorant on a subject they know nothing about (do not take offense to "ignorant").

[Kyonye]

if you smoke 2 pounds in like a day. maybe, I guess so. but by the time you got through the first couple ounces youd be too fucked up to light another one.


i will restate them

15 pounds you must smoke straight to OD

55 pounds you must eat straight to OD

[Octavian]

Oh sure it hasn't done anything to you yet, but it will eventually. It's like saying that you'll never have a car crash. But you will if you're not careful.

[SkunkPunk]

kyoyne im still in on this... but some people are just too damn closed minded... octavian you know nothing... you guys want proof weed can be helpful? my brother, im not gonna get into his history or anything but after getting alcohol poisoning like 100 times, well if it werent for weed he would still be out on the streets begging for booze

[Kyonye]

Oh sure it hasn't done anything to you yet, but it will eventually. It's like saying that you'll never have a car crash. But you will if you're not careful.


and eating fatty foods hasn't done anything to yet either, or maybe you will get cancer from the carbon monoxide you inhale from cars....but it may happen if you're not careful.

[eXoSloth]

kyoyne im still in on this... but some people are just too damn closed minded... octavian you know nothing... you guys want proof weed can be helpful? my brother, im not gonna get into his history or anything but after getting alcohol poisoning like 100 times, well if it werent for weed he would still be out on the streets begging for booze

That's like cutting your arm off so your missing leg won't hurt so much...

[Rbstr]

aor maybe you will get cancer from the carbon monoxide you inhale from cars....

Yea you don't inhale much CO in your average car. Well assuming your not a pothead that can't afford anything other than a 15 year old POS.

Or turn it on in a garage to commit suicide

[Octavian]

Are you agreeing with Kyonye?

[Kyonye]

Take the adirondacks for instance. for those of you who don't know what Adirondacks are, they are the mountains in NY state.


in the Adirondacks, the Acid rain has become to bad that anyone who lives their and gets there water from a well, should run their water for a short while because the water that sits in the pipes become to toxic to the body to drink...so many people worry about issues like Marijuana that they forget to look at other things like Cigarettes, Alcohol, Car accidents, hard drugs (ie coke, heroine, ecstacy, speed).

why don't people ever look at that. this country spends $6 billion a year to try and get people to stop smoking weed when that could be used for more important issues as what i have listed above...why don't they have Commercials that say, "Stop shootin up heroine," or "stop sniffing coke." those would be much more useful. or how about spending that $6 billion dollars on education, or welfare?

[Rbstr]

me no i think he's fighting for the wrong things and am personaly againt everything he has said more or less, but i don't have much against him as a person.

Though i think your missreading becaue my I['m definently not agreeing with him

6 million dollars is NOTHING at all in this countries budget

[Neon Apocalypse]

Take the adirondacks for instance. for those of you who don't know what Adirondacks are, they are the mountains in NY state.


in the Adirondacks, the Acid rain has become to bad that anyone who lives their and gets there water from a well, should run their water for a short while because the water that sits in the pipes become to toxic to the body to drink...so many people worry about issues like Marijuana that they forget to look at other things like Cigarettes, Alcohol, Car accidents, hard drugs (ie coke, heroine, ecstacy, speed).

why don't people ever look at that. this country spends $6 billion a year to try and get people to stop smoking weed when that could be used for more important issues as what i have listed above...why don't they have Commercials that say, "Stop shootin up heroine," or "stop sniffing coke." those would be much more useful. or how about spending that $6 billion dollars on education, or welfare?

the guy has a point, if someone wants to do drugs or smoke cigs thats up to them if they wanna ruin themselves, we gotta stop what we cant stop by ourselves

[Dharkbayne]

That's like cutting your arm off so your missing leg won't hurt so much...

You mean you're NOT supposed to do that? Shit!

[FlakMan]

I don't see why this thread isn't locked yet. Someone yet again started a thread about something they obviously enjoy and everyone has to roll in and play high and mighty and declare them wrong. A lot of you guys are too immature to debate this subject. You get so offended, and for what? Nothing.

[Neon Apocalypse]

This is what happens when people disagree. I believe that kyonye had a good point though.

[Kyonye]

I will admit there were points in this one day too many hours debate where i became immature. all debates become heated like this, especially when people have personal reasons to back up there side of the issue....


and thank you neon for backing me up on that....i appreciate it.

[SkunkPunk]

we should all be happy god gave us this wonderful plant! 420 is coming up everyone be :) not :mad:

[Angel_of_Death]

OK I've never heard of this 4/20 garbage skipping thing...but every day before a long weekend or break our school skips. So we win.

[ZeusCali]

looks like the arguments/debate is over sides are peaceful again, But i would like to point out a few things

First it was 6 Billion dollars not million, Rbstr.

Second Gohan Your like 14 and you sound like a brain washed youth, that never looks out side or inbetween the lines of what is presented to him. Do your own resaearch and don't follow the media's high influence so much.

Third i had a friend back in the U.S. that was and likely still is a weed taker(found out from here pothead is the extreme use). He Claimed not to be addicted which may be true chemically but still, even without chemical influences, It is an enjoyable experience and therefore can be seen as a type of addiction. As anything in life that one enjoys.

Fourth I agree with 1024 that some weed-takers are very stupid lazy people. But In Actuality it is just a coincedance(sp?) that they act that way, or likely they just seem that way as social conditioning (everyone says you suck, you get depressed , you take the herb equavilent to lithium)

Yet I agree with Kyone's Arguments, Espeicially Weed isn't harmful in the extremes of most other drugs if even harmful at all.


Personally I have never puffed but have had spirtual highs that seem to be the equivalent to Weed highs. I Know the social stupitity, innocents, and ignorance of some of the subjects fighters and currently to much miss information is given to them(refering to the anti-weed debators, Gohan as an example).

There we go i have added my 2 bits, it is 4:48 am and i have class at 9 so good night people.

[Rbstr]

6 billion is still a drop in the bucket

and its teh weed that makes them the lazy people, getting high is only a temporary part, there are many lasting effects that come with it.

I could care less about the morals of it or if you can kill yourself withit. but i've read up and know what this stuff acctualy does to you physicaly, its just a bad chooise to start doing it.

[SkunkPunk]

Stupid noobs at my school think that bob marley died on 4:20... he died on may 11th... so so ignorant, these are also the kids who are 'da real pot heads' who buy a dime and take a toke everyday for a month straight

[FlakMan]

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/chris/ad/matador-splash.gif

[I Hate Pants]

Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. I smoke it occasionaly with my friends i've really only gotten stoned like 3 times. I've been meaning to do it again. I do it once every few months or so. Not much harm to yourself really if you do it ocassionlly. Just like people who only drink during social occasions.

Your missing out if you don't atleast get stoned once. Although im sure that most people who argue that pot is bad have never even seen a joint or probably even a dime in thier life.

Oh yeah! Vanilla papes are the best!

[321]

I'm surpriesd at how many people smoke pot even on a forum and how many people just say it and let everyone know that they do. I always thought that pot was one of thoes things that only a very few people did. And by few I mean at a school or so because I know that there are a lot worldwide.

[I Hate Pants]

I'm surpriesd at how many people smoke pot even on a forum and how many people just say it and let everyone know that they do. I always thought that pot was one of thoes things that only a very few people did. And by few I mean at a school or so because I know that there are a lot worldwide.

Really? Marijuana use is on an all time high with young people. Or atleast in Canada. Afterall where I live carrying 30 grams or less of pot had been decriminalized.

[321]

Here in America it's illegall to carry any pot.

[I Hate Pants]

yeah I know.

[Lonehunter]

This brings up the old question...


Man made beer
God made pot
Who do you trust?

[Fragmatic]

God also made poisonous snakes, and other vicious animals.

[1024]

I really don't give a fuck if someone i don't have to interact with goes and smokes their brains out. Whatever. But if i gotta put up with the annoying part of being around someone who's stoned/perpetually stoned, then you'll probably see me gettin' pissed.

[BizSAR]

Therapeutic Use of Cannabis
(Greatly condensed)

WARNING:

There is no pharmacological free lunch in cannabis or any drug (including alcohol, which IS a drug, and one of the most toxic). Negative reactions can result. A very small percentage of people have negative or allergic reactions to marijuana. Heart patients could have problems, even though cannabis generally relieves stress, dilates the arteries, and in general, lowers diastolic pressure. A small percentage of people get especially high heart rates and anxieties with cannabis. These persons should not use it. Some bronchial asthma sufferers benefit from cannabis; however, for others it may serve as an additional irritant.

For the overwhelming majority of people, cannabis has demonstrated literally hundreds of therapeutic uses. Among them:

1. Asthma:
Smoking cannabis would be beneficial for 80% of the roughly 15 million Americans afflicted with asthma. This is due to the fact that marijuana acts as a bronchial-dilator, actually opening air passageways, the direct opposite effect of cigarettes. Doing so would add 30-60 million person-years in the aggregate of extended life to current asthmatics over presently legal toxic medicines such as the Theophylline prescribed to children.
�Taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop a full blown asthma attack.� (Dr. Donald Tashkin, 12/12/89 and 12/1/97)
Today, only in the state of California, can an asthmatic patient can legally grow and use cannabis medicines, even though it is generally the most effective treatment for asthma.
(Tashkin, Dr. Donald, UCLA Pulmonary Studies (for smoked marijuana), 1969-97; Ibid., asthma studies, 1969-1976; Cohen, Sidney, & Stillman, Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana, 1976; Life Insurance Actuarial rates; Life shortening effects of childhood asthma, 1983)

2. Glaucoma:
Cannabis smoking would benefit from 90% of our 2.5 million glaucoma victims, and is two to three times as effective as any current medicines for reducing ocular pressure (hence the �red-eye effect� occasionally seen with smokers). Cannabis has no toxic side effects to the liver and kidneys; nor is there any danger of the occasional sudden death syndromes associated with the legal pharmaceutical glaucoma drugs/drops. Again, today, only in the state of California can a glaucoma patient get the one truly safe medicine they need to stop, and in many cases, begin to actually reverse the effects of this crippling disease.
(Harvard; Hepler & Frank, 1971, UCLA; Medical College of Georgia; U. of North Carolina School of Medicine, 1975; Cohen & Stillman, Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana, UCLA, 1976; National Eye Institute; Records of Bob Randolph / Elvy Musika, 1975, 1998)

3. Tumors
Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia discovered that cannabis is an incredibly successful herb for reducing many types of tumors, both benign and malignant. The DEA and other federal agencies had ordered these tumor studies done after hearing erroneous reports of possible immunicological problems associated with cannabis smoke. But, in 1975, instead of health problems, an apparent medical breakthrough occurred and successful tumor reductions were recorded. Following this remarkably positive discovery by the Medical College of Virginia, orders were immediately handed down by the DEA and the National Institute of Health to defund all further cannabis/tumor research and reporting. Since 1996, the Medical College of Virginia has again applied to receive grants for cannabis research and has been turned down by the DEA.

4. Nausea Relief (eg, AIDS, Cancer Therapy, Sea Sickness
�Marijuana is the best known agent for control of nausea in cancer chemotherapy,� according to Dr. Thomas Ungerleider, who headed California�s Marijuana for Cancer research program from 1979 to 1984. This is also true in AIDS and even in the unsettled stomach common in motion sickness.

5. Epilepsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Back Pain, Muscle Spasms
Cannabis is beneficial for 60% of all epileptics. It is definitely the best treatment for many, but not all types of epilepsy, and for victims� post-seizure mental traumas. Cannabis extract is more effective than Dilantin (commonly prescribed anti-epileptic with severe side effects). �Marijuana�is probably the most potent anti-epileptic known to medicine today� (Mikuriya, Tod H., M.D. Marijuana Medical Papers 1839-1972, page xxii.)
Cannabis users� epileptic seizures are of less intensity than the more dangerous seizures experienced by users of pharmaceuticals. Similarly, smoking cannabis has proven to be a major source of relief for multiple sclerosis.

Aside from addictive morphine, cannabis, whether smoked or applied as an herbal pack or poultice, is also the best muscle relaxant, back spasm medicine, and general antispasmodic medication on the planet.
(Cohen & Stillman, Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana, 1976; Consult U.S. Pharmacopoeia prior to 1937; Mikuriya, Tod H., M.D. Marijuana Medical Papers 1839-1972.)

6. Arthritis, Herpes, Cystic Fibrosis, and Rheumatism
Cannabis is a topical analgesic. Hemp leaves and/or flower tops heated in water or alcohol and placed on painful joints is still a widely used remedy in Mexico, and Central and South America.
Direct contact with THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) killed herpes virus in a University of South Florida (Tampa) 1990 research study by Dr. Gerald Lancz.

(continued in the next post)

[BizSAR]

7. Lung Cleaner and Expectorant
Cannabis is the best natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust, and the phlegm associated with tobacco use.
Marijuana smoke effectively dilates the airways of the lungs, the bronchi, opening them to allow more oxygen into the lungs. It is also the best natural dilator of the tiny airways of the lungs, the bronchial tubes � making cannabis the best overall bronchial dilator for 80% of the population (the remaining 20% sometimes show minor negative reactions).
(UCLA Tashkin studies, 1969-97; U.S. Costa Rican, 1980-82; Jamaican studies 1969-1974, 76)
Statistical evidence � showing up consistently as anomalies in matched populations � indicates that people who smoke tobacco cigarettes are usually better off and will live longer if they smoke cannabis moderately, too. (Jamaican, Costa Rican studies).

9. Sleep and Relaxation
Cannabis lowers blood pressure, dilates the arteries, and reduces body temperature an average of one-half degree, thereby relieving stress. Using cannabis allows most people a more complete rest with a higher amount of �alpha sleep� during sleep as compared to prescription drugs. Prescription sleeping pills (�safe and effective�) are often just synthesized analogs of truly dangerous plants like mandrake, henbane, and belladonna.
Unlike Valium, cannabis does not potentiate the effects of alcohol. It is estimated could replace more than 50% of Valium, Librium, Thorazine, Stelazine, and other �-zine� drugs.

10. Therapeutic Emphysema Potential
Medical research indicates that light marijuana smoking might be useful for a majority of mild emphysema victims. All research into the oxygen blood transfer effects caused by cannabis indicates that many of the symptoms associated with heavy smog days are usually alleviated by cannabis smoking throughout the day. A cannabis smoker cannot get or potentiate emphysema.
(Tashkin�s Marijuana Pulmonary Research, UCLA, 1969-1997)

11. Stress and Migraine Headache Relief
While cannabis intoxication varies with psychological set and social setting, �the most common response is a calm, mildly euphoric state in which time slows and a sensitivity to sights, sounds, and touch is enhanced.�
While tobacco constricts arteries, cannabis dilates (opens) them. Because migraine headaches are the result of artery spasms combined with over-relaxation of veins, the vascular changes cannabis causes in the covering of the brain (the meninges) usually make migraines disappear. Evidence of vascular change caused by cannabis can be seen in the user�s eyes, which are vascular extensions of the brain. However, unlike most other drugs, cannabis has no apparent effect on the vascular system in general, except for a slight increased heart rate during the onset of the high.

12. Increasing Appetite
We�ve all heard about the increased appetite associated with marijuana smoking. Hundreds of thousands of Americans in old age, convalescent wards, or hospital situations have anorexia. Most could be helped by cannabis. This effect can also extend the lives of victims of AIDS and pancreatic cancer (eat or die). However, the DEA and U.S. government prevented any research or use of cannabis in pancreatic cancer therapy since 1976.

ACCEPTABLE RISKS (a closure)
Every U.S. commission or federal judge who has studied the evidence has agreed that cannabis is one of the safest drugs known. With all its therapeutic uses, it has only one side effect that has been exaggerated as a concern: the �high�. The DEA says this is not acceptable, so cannabis continues to be totally illegal in utter disregard for both doctor and patient.
Every day we entrust physicians to determine whether the risks associated with therapeutic, yet potentially dangerous, drugs are acceptable for their patients. Yet, doctors are not allowed to prescribe the herb that Federal Judge Francis Young in 1988 called �one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man.�
We don�t put our doctors in charge of stopping violent crimes. The police, prosecutors, and prison guards should not be in charge of which herbal therapies people may use to treat their personal health problems.

(SOURCES FOR ABOVE WHERE NONE LISTED:
1. Cohen & Stillman, Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana, UCLA, 1976, Medical College of Virginia.
2. Mikuriya, Tod H., M.D. Marijuana Medical Papers 1839-1972, Medi-Comp Press, Oakland, CA, 1973
3. The Antibiotic Effect of Cannabis Indica, 1952-53-55
4. Harvard Medical School Mental Health Letter, Vol. 4, No. 5, November 1987
5. Ruben, Vera & Comitas, Lambros, Ganja in Jamaica, A Medical Anthropological Study of Chronic Marijuana Use, Mouton & Co., The Hague and Paris, Anchor Books, U.S.A., 1976
6. Stopping Valium Public Citizen Heath Research Group, 2000 P ST NW, Washington D.C.

[BizSAR]

HOW DANGEROUS IS MARIJUANA COMPARED WITH OTHER SUBSTANCES?

Number of American Deaths Per Year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance actuarial (death) rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon General�s reports.

TOBACCO�����������������������.................... .................................................. .......340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders).......................................... .150,000
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose)������������............................. .................................180 to 1000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.)............................................1 ,000 to 10,000+
�LEGAL� DRUG OVERDOSE (deliberate or accidental from prescribed or over the counter medicines and/or in combination with alcohol � e.g. Valium/alcohol)..100,000+
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental from all illegal drugs except marijuana)�.......................3,800 to 5,200

MARIJUANA�������������������...................... .................................................. ��������..0 (zero)

(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general nonmarijuana-using population as a whole. Cancer Study, UCLA; U.S. funded ($6 million), first and second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et. al. LOWEST TOXICITY: 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)

I rest my case, ladies and gentleman, and trust you have the dignity and maturity to discuss this issue in an open and frank manner. I present to you the facts. If you would like more information, please respond as a mature adult, and I'll be more than happy to oblige.

I also submit the above information as a first-hand testimonial. In 1998, I was diagnosed with testicular cancer, whereby I had to have one testicle removed and undergo a rigorous 3 month panel of chemotherapy to save my life. I could not have lasted the "treatment" without the calming and anti-nauseous benefits of cannabis. I refused all and any toxic, artificial anti-nausea medications (which included suppositories if I couldn't keep the pills down), and did not have one mere second of nausea/vomiting. I also lost only 10% of the weight expected due to cannabis' appetite stimulation. I can happily say that i recently celebrated my 6th year of being cancer-free, which in the medical world, is considered a total cure.

Thanks for your time, I sincerely hope you came away at least slightly informed.

[SDM]

omg would you stop it?!

[Indecisive]

I found an article disproving all that you said in your triple post, but if I find it im just gonna get this thread closer to locking.

Zeus: fuck you I'm two months away from 17 :p . "


*Predicts thread locking......now*

[FlakMan]

I bet it's a propaganda site Gohan... :rolleyes:

[Indecisive]

And the things listed above are not? Please. As stated before, we arent gonna find anything that is impartial.

Im not gonna go find it. Bastards got me too hyper about this shit.

[ZeusCali]

I bet it's a propaganda site Gohan... :rolleyes:
i think so too

Gohan if your older then 14 you need to start acting your age a bit more. You are still not looking past the blindfold the mdeia can put over you.
(der be wapons fud mash destroctiun in Arfganestan!!! nak them1!@!oneoneone)

[Jennyboo]

240 - Pot smoking day ...but it's a stupid day :ugh:

[FlakMan]

And the things listed above are not? Please. As stated before, we arent gonna find anything that is impartial.

Im not gonna go find it. Bastards got me too hyper about this shit.
Do the rolling of 'my' eyes not indicate sarcasm to you? And in reply to your entire post, get out of the house more. It's good for you.

[BizSAR]

It's there in black and white, man. You wanted substantiated fact, and I provided you with such. Want more? I'm not gonna look up the sources I cited for you. That you must do on your own. The medical community knows this little plant is fairly safe, but is afraid to do or say much about it because of the draconian laws imposed on our country and others, imposing our twisted view of reality by placing fines and embargos on poor countries that disagree with us. It's shameful. At least reschedule it so that doctors can prescribe it if needed without fear of repercussion.

Finally, Happy 4:20 day everyone! See you all at 4:20PM today in-game or out! ;)

[Kyonye]

5 States have accepted Medicinal Marijuana and now use it under very high supervision. 6 more states are in the process of making Medicinal Marijuana legal....including NY state where i live.

now you tell me...if 5 states have it legal, and 6 are in the process, then how can it be dangerous?

[eXoSloth]

5 States have accepted Medicinal Marijuana and now use it under very high supervision. 6 more states are in the process of making Medicinal Marijuana legal....including NY state where i live.

now you tell me...if 5 states have it legal, and 6 are in the process, then how can it be dangerous?

Alcohol and Tobacco are allowed in all 50 states for non-medical purposes. Morphine (among other drugs) is allowed for medical purposes.

[SDM]

Morphine is dangerous?! Surely not!

[Kikinchikin]

Drugs suck. Why do you need an artificial substance to get you "high?" Aren't there enough things in life that can give you a natural high?

And the reason they are legalizing pot is because everyone uses it. They may just as well do it, since there's no way they can stop someone.

I must commend PSU's majority. I figured this thread would be full of potheads, but I gladly see that's not the case.

[SDM]

On that note; everyone should try LSD atleast once. I had a friend of mine convinced he was an Orange, he was all like "DON'T PEEEEEEL ME!" and I'm like "Dude. Stop freaking out". He wouldn't stop freaking out, so my other friend (in his infinite acid induced wisdom) says "Lets put him in the 'tomorrow box' man". "Yeah, the tomorrow box!" I replied. Then I'm all like "Brent, you need to get in the tomorrow box, 'cause we can't deal with you today". Brent spent the rest of the night crying in the closet thinking he was an Orange. Good times. GOOOD TIMES.

[Kikinchikin]

On that note; everyone should try LSD atleast once. I had a friend of mine convinced he was an Orange, he was all like "DON'T PEEEEEEL ME!" and I'm like "Dude. Stop freaking out". He wouldn't stop freaking out, so my other friend (in his infinite acid induced wisdom) says "Lets put him in the 'tomorrow box' man". "Yeah, the tomorrow box!" I replied. Then I'm all like "Brent, you need to get in the tomorrow box, 'cause we can't deal with you today". Brent spent the rest of the night crying in the closet thinking he was an Orange. Good times. GOOOD TIMES.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[martyr]

we're getting a swastika-shaped ice cream cake.

[SDM]

we're getting a swastika-shaped ice cream cake.
party:

[BizSAR]

Anything can be taken to an abuse level. LSD and marijuana are worlds apart in psychoactivity. LSD should only be taken in a controlled, SUPPORTIVE environment. Little kids and teenagers/immature adults shouldn't mess with any of it to excess. There's a very good reason LSD is illegal, and you just related the poster-child story. It's not so much the drug itself, but the idiots that use it recklessly.

Putting someone in a closet and then sitting there while they cried?! With friends like you, who needs enemies? Your lack of compassion only mirrors your lack of integrity.

Remember, this thread was about what today is: 4/20, and it's significance and meaning.
Go sit in a corner and pull the wings off of flys somewhere else, SDM.

[SDM]

Anything can be taken to an abuse level. LSD and marijuana are worlds apart in psychoactivity. LSD should only be taken in a controlled, SUPPORTIVE environment. Little kids and teenagers/immature adults shouldn't mess with any of it to excess. There's a very good reason LSD is illegal, and you just related the poster-child story. It's not so much the drug itself, but the idiots that use it recklessly.

Putting someone in a closet and then sitting there while they cried?! With friends like you, who needs enemies? Your lack of compassion only mirrors your lack of integrity.

Remember, this thread was about what today is: 4/20, and it's significance and meaning.
Go sit in a corner and pull the wings off of flys somewhere else, SDM.
Go smoke a penis.

[Kikinchikin]

LSD should only be taken in a controlled, SUPPORTIVE environment. Little kids and teenagers/immature adults shouldn't mess with any of it to excess.

LOL! LSD should not be taken period. There are no medical uses for it, and it can kill.

And if my friend came to me high on LSD, I'd turn his ass into the cops, not "support" him.

[SDM]

LOL! LSD should not be taken period. There are no medical uses for it, and it can kill.

And if my friend came to me high on LSD, I'd turn his ass into the cops, not "support" him.
BizSAR has no gift of funnay. Or he's just to high up on his soapbox to catch the funnay. Either way, he can smoke a penis.:tear:

[Dharkbayne]

On that note; everyone should try LSD atleast once. I had a friend of mine convinced he was an Orange, he was all like "DON'T PEEEEEEL ME!" and I'm like "Dude. Stop freaking out". He wouldn't stop freaking out, so my other friend (in his infinite acid induced wisdom) says "Lets put him in the 'tomorrow box' man". "Yeah, the tomorrow box!" I replied. Then I'm all like "Brent, you need to get in the tomorrow box, 'cause we can't deal with you today". Brent spent the rest of the night crying in the closet thinking he was an Orange. Good times. GOOOD TIMES.
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[Kyonye]

Drugs suck. Why do you need an artificial substance to get you "high?" Aren't there enough things in life that can give you a natural high?

And the reason they are legalizing pot is because everyone uses it. They may just as well do it, since there's no way they can stop someone.



well first off, Marijuana is not an artificial substance.

Second, they are legalizing it because it is a Medicinal herb...thus it has Medicinal properties....

why would the American Medical Association be one of the first groups to argue against Marijuana becoming illegal?

why? Because it helps people.

[SDM]

LSD should only be taken in a controlled, SUPPORTIVE environment...
Yeah, like the Manson family.:doh:

[Dharkbayne]

i think so too

Gohan if your older then 14 you need to start acting your age a bit more. You are still not looking past the blindfold the mdeia can put over you.
(der be wapons fud mash destroctiun in Arfganestan!!! nak them1!@!oneoneone)

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[Everay]

:rofl: this thread is teh funnay!!!

[ZeusCali]

sorry MEDIA is that better mr anal marster farker?

[Dharkbayne]

i think so too

Gohan if your older then 14 you need to start acting your age a bit more. You are still not looking past the blindfold the mdeia can put over you.
(der be wapons fud mash destroctiun in Arfganestan!!! nak them1!@!oneoneone)

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[ZeusCali]

Correct the words highlited in red.
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[Neon Apocalypse]

12 min till 4:20

[Kaltagesta]

Personally, i couldnt give a fuck if someone smokes weed, thats not my problem. It's when someone who i'm meant to be working with or something similar does, and it fucks me up as a result that i'd get pissed. Equally, Your not allowed to drink and drive, and rightfully so - it inhibits your ability to drive. This, depending on the person, takes more than one beer, usually, to happen to an extent that makes it realistically dangerous, and so you can drink a little bit, and still drive legally.

With Pot, you couldnt. When you get high, your gone, flat, can't drive. That's one of the reasons it's illegal. And it's a pitty Led doesn't come here anymore, she has a reason for hating pot - She [yes, she] got slashed in the face by a pothead with a knife once, and now has two large scars on her face. Sure, not everyones gonig to be like that, but people being killed [as Led easily could have, as could anyone walking near a road when a guy on pot is driving] is it worth it, jsut so school kids can legally do what they already do?

And i agree with 1024 here, if you need a drug to get high, as opposed to for medical reasons, how much do you really think getting high for half an hour is gonna help? Yep, Kyone, go ahead with fooling yourself into thinknig it's helping you, but in the end, who's really happier? Those who need to get high on drugs, possibly lined with any old shit that could get you killed, or people who can go and hang out, drug free, and are actually able to concentrate on things?

(GG)

[oddfish]

i have officially been asked ten different times if i wanted to go smoke. wow.

here's my options:

A) Smoke weed,
B) go see Annie for a few hours.

hmmmmmm.. that's really fucking rough. :doh:

i told her and she just laughed and said: go get high, i'll wait for you.
that gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. so, since i'm a great guy and all, i'm not getting high, i'm just going to go play. but, before i do, i'm gonna post some important shit in the game discussion forum that you may want to have a look at, whomever you are. it's about the space combat discussion that was going on a while back. my tablet's been real finicky, so i couldn't draw the pics digitally, so i sat down the other day and did 'em in pencil. some of 'em. they'lll be up soon.

anyways, hope you people enjoyed 4:20 on 4/20.. later

[SkunkPunk]

lol i still am

[JetRaiden]

i have officially been asked ten different times if i wanted to go smoke. wow.

here's my options:

A) Smoke weed,
B) go see Annie for a few hours.

hmmmmmm.. that's really fucking rough. :doh:

i told her and she just laughed and said: go get high, i'll wait for you.
that gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. so, since i'm a great guy and all, i'm not getting high, i'm just going to go play. but, before i do, i'm gonna post some important shit in the game discussion forum that you may want to have a look at, whomever you are. it's about the space combat discussion that was going on a while back. my tablet's been real finicky, so i couldn't draw the pics digitally, so i sat down the other day and did 'em in pencil. some of 'em. they'lll be up soon.

anyways, hope you people enjoyed 4:20 on 4/20.. later

I know I did. 4:20 AM that is...

happy pot smokers day everyone!

[Indecisive]

Let this thread die before something else does.





At my hands.

[BIGTROJANMAN]

ok this thread has 11 pages of potheads, wanabe potheads and people who dislike pot.
ok this is fuckin sad you guys are fighting over the stupidest thing. i used to smoke and im not scared to tell people. I love the feeling of not giving a fuck to care for anything. lisen Shunkpunk and Kyoneye i dont know how old you guys are but i have been smoking pot, weed, grass whatever the fuck you guys call it now in these days. but i have been smoking since i was 13 and im 18 now thats only five years. and i used to be very addicitve i would spend 20 a month when i started then when i got a job at 15 i would buy a once an month but when i was 16 me and me friend would buy 2 onces a month.so around a month ago i realised i have worked to hard for that fucking shit and i spend to much money on it so i quited it. and im doing good i relised i dont need it. and if you got issues like being depressed your only numbing the pain not stoping it. and if you need it see a fucking shrink.

now all i have to do is stop smoking ciggs thats is hard than weedand then im good to go. :)

[Indecisive]

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[eXoSloth]

well first off, Marijuana is not an artificial substance.

Second, they are legalizing it because it is a Medicinal herb...thus it has Medicinal properties....

why would the American Medical Association be one of the first groups to argue against Marijuana becoming illegal?

why? Because it helps people.

Like I said before, dangerous drugs can have medicinal purposes (See morphine).

I never said marijuana didn�t have medicinal uses.

But, Do you have an ailment that requires marijuana to treat it? Are you using marijuana under the supervision of a doctor?

[Kyonye]

And i agree with 1024 here, if you need a drug to get high, as opposed to for medical reasons, how much do you really think getting high for half an hour is gonna help? Yep, Kyone, go ahead with fooling yourself into thinknig it's helping you, but in the end, who's really happier? Those who need to get high on drugs, possibly lined with any old shit that could get you killed, or people who can go and hang out, drug free, and are actually able to concentrate on things?
(GG)

Well, its more like 5 hours but besides that...Like i said before, i have plenty of reasons to do it. i have plenty of highs from life already...Once again, i am not a pothead...I do not smoke it everyday like potheads do. i barely even smoke it once a week...maybe once a week. i actually haven't done it in a while. today is 420 and i'm not smoking (a reason no one would understand). I fight for Medical Marijuana more then anything else dealing with the drug....well, i fight for Industrial Hemp too, just as much actually. I like it....and am very happy with it. i am happy with my life. i may be in a depression right now....and no, shrinks don't work. i know everyone is gonna argue that i'm probably not trying hard enough with them but i have and it just didn't work out the way i hoped for. Marijuana is not my alternative. but I like it. it helps me ease myself. it helps get rid of my stress i build up from school or from my friends or anything else. I fight for it because I know that Marijuana is a medicine. it has been a medicine in the past, it should be a medicine now.

ok this thread has 11 pages of potheads, wanabe potheads and people who dislike pot.
ok this is fuckin sad you guys are fighting over the stupidest thing. i used to smoke and im not scared to tell people. I love the feeling of not giving a fuck to care for anything. lisen Shunkpunk and Kyoneye i dont know how old you guys are but i have been smoking pot, weed, grass whatever the fuck you guys call it now in these days. but i have been smoking since i was 13 and im 18 now thats only five years. and i used to be very addicitve i would spend 20 a month when i started then when i got a job at 15 i would buy a once an month but when i was 16 me and me friend would buy 2 onces a month.so around a month ago i realised i have worked to hard for that fucking shit and i spend to much money on it so i quited it. and im doing good i relised i dont need it. and if you got issues like being depressed your only numbing the pain not stoping it. and if you need it see a fucking shrink.

now all i have to do is stop smoking ciggs thats is hard than weedand then im good to go. :)


i'm sorry you spent that much money on pot, i'm sorry you had that addiction to it. it is not my fault for the way you ended up. you are different from me. I do not and never will smoke pot like you did. i am not like that. I don't buy 2 ounces a month. i don't buy alot of it because i don't smoke it alot.

and i hope you can quit cigarettes as soon as possible, those murdered both of my grandparents... cigarettes are bad for you. i'm also sorry you had started them in the first place....

let me clarify one thing again...
Pothead is a person who smokes it everyday. a pothead is someone who lives off of it. A pothead is the equivalent of an alcoholic....someone who drinks it everyday, and needs it.

I, on the other hand, do not need it like they do. sometimes if i'm feeling down, i may smoke it. does me no harm..and like i said before, it helps me relieve stress.



Also, do i have a hard name to spell or something? :p

[SkunkPunk]

ok this thread has 11 pages of potheads, wanabe potheads and people who dislike pot.
ok this is fuckin sad you guys are fighting over the stupidest thing. i used to smoke and im not scared to tell people. I love the feeling of not giving a fuck to care for anything. lisen Shunkpunk and Kyoneye i dont know how old you guys are but i have been smoking pot, weed, grass whatever the fuck you guys call it now in these days. but i have been smoking since i was 13 and im 18 now thats only five years. and i used to be very addicitve i would spend 20 a month when i started then when i got a job at 15 i would buy a once an month but when i was 16 me and me friend would buy 2 onces a month.so around a month ago i realised i have worked to hard for that fucking shit and i spend to much money on it so i quited it. and im doing good i relised i dont need it. and if you got issues like being depressed your only numbing the pain not stoping it. and if you need it see a fucking shrink.

now all i have to do is stop smoking ciggs thats is hard than weedand then im good to go. :)


Smoking it a year longer than me doesnt make you know everything... You didnt like it so you quit, good for you, but as long as im still enjoying it I will keep smoking it... this thread sucks now

[Kyonye]

Much :love: for you guys :) ......it was a good debate!

[BIGTROJANMAN]

Smoking it a year longer than me doesnt make you know everything... You didnt like it so you quit, good for you, but as long as im still enjoying it I will keep smoking it... this thread sucks now

no i liked it i just knew it wasnt good for me at the time im going to collage next year, and i knew i need to grow up and get responsiblitiy. do what you got to do i didnt say it was bad for you i said it wasnt going good for me. you will get what i mean in like the next 2 years. and another thing i do know alot. and yes this thread has sucked since it was made


oh if i start again shunk ill send you a movie of me showing you how smoking is really done. :D

[SkunkPunk]

no i liked it i just knew it wasnt good for me at the time im going to collage next year, and i knew i need to grow up and get responsiblitiy. do what you got to do i didnt say it was bad for you i said it wasnt going good for me. you will get what i mean in like the next 2 years. and another thing i do know alot. and yes this thread has sucked since it was made


oh if i start again shunk ill send you a movie of me showing you how smoking is really done. :D
lol, we will just have to wait and see