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HunterKiller
2004-04-27, 06:04 PM
link (http://www.michaelscomputers.com/index2.html) :huh:

TheRegurgitator
2004-04-27, 06:20 PM
I'm too bored to read it all.

JetRaiden
2004-04-27, 06:29 PM
its a really fast computer.

EineBeBoP
2004-04-27, 06:32 PM
Dont see why thats a scam. Didnt see any prices tho.

HunterKiller
2004-04-27, 06:33 PM
did you even look at the system specs for the desktop?

he has an AMD 64 fx-51 3400+ with 500 gb raid-x ultra harddrive. there is no such thing.

for his 3dmark2003 a score of 17,894, that is like impossible.

EDIT: sorry forgot part it.

EineBeBoP
2004-04-27, 06:35 PM
500 gb HD is probobaly 2.
And yes, there is a processor like that
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9488,00.html

Indecisive
2004-04-27, 06:36 PM
Shit, that computers 3.5k. You can get a 3.4 ghz proc for 3.5k.

HunterKiller
2004-04-27, 06:39 PM
i feel sorry for anybody who thinks this site is legitimate.

Fragmatic
2004-04-27, 06:41 PM
It is.

CLICK ME (http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20040317/too_good_to_be_true-01.html)

EineBeBoP
2004-04-27, 06:44 PM
he has an AMD 64 fx-51 3400+ with 500 gb raid-x ultra harddrive. there is no such thing.

for his 3dmark2003 a score of 17,894, that is like impossible.

EDIT: sorry forgot part it.
Why is this impossible? Thoes two pieces of hardware are real. I dont know anything about benchmarking, but Is this really impossible?
I think you might not have had all your facts when you made this post :)


Edit: My mistake you were correct.
I still dont see the reasons you listed as proof tho.

Fragmatic
2004-04-27, 06:47 PM
did you even look at the system specs for the desktop?

he has an AMD 64 fx-51 3400+ with 500 gb raid-x ultra harddrive. there is no such thing.

for his 3dmark2003 a score of 17,894, that is like impossible.

EDIT: sorry forgot part it.

AMD 64 FX-51 is a real processor.

500 gb raid-x? Basically means 500gb of storage in RAID (RAID-X just basically means any number, its up to them what they set it to) They probably use RAID 0 and call it a hard drive, because raid 0 pretty much "merges" the drives.

And a 3dmark 2k3 score that high? I don't believe it either.

Mag
2004-04-27, 06:48 PM
That man needs to be publically executed.

Rbstr
2004-04-27, 06:49 PM
Sorry *** Toms hardware proved its a joke, and most of those parts don't exist

There is an Athlon Fx-51 and an Athlon 64 3400+ but no FX-51 3400+

RAID-X is also somethign i've Never heard of, though a 2 hd raid in either JABOD or raid 0 would do it.

Also he has a bunch of awards he never recived up there, 7.7 seconds to boot is basicaly impossible with any new windows system. nd 17k on 3d03 is not possible with those setups

JetRaiden
2004-04-27, 06:49 PM
someone try to order something from him. maybe just a pen to see if the order process is legit.

Vis Armata
2004-04-27, 06:58 PM
This guy is a hoax...don't even try to order from him, unless you like chasing scam artists.

Rbstr
2004-04-27, 06:58 PM
for got sakes his page has a built in time to make it load up slower, then he uses the saying, if you computer took time to load this its too slow

HunterKiller
2004-04-27, 07:18 PM
AMD 64 FX-51 is a real processor.

500 gb raid-x? Basically means 500gb of storage in RAID (RAID-X just basically means any number, its up to them what they set it to) They probably use RAID 0 and call it a hard drive, because raid 0 pretty much "merges" the drives.

And a 3dmark 2k3 score that high? I don't believe it either.

they listed it as AMD 64 fx-51 3400+, which is impossible since they are 2 diff. procs.like your link said

Everay
2004-04-27, 07:19 PM
well, the hard drive is possible, but the proccesor doesnt exist, so no.

Cyanide
2004-04-28, 12:59 PM
From his FAQ:
Q: When a client says �But what about support? We have always chosen Dell"

A: The United States Navy couldn�t have said it better, �Michael, I have associates who say they want Dell because of the support of when something goes wrong (laughing) and something will always go wrong with a Dell. And getting assistance was extremely troublesome. I went through the same thing with Gateway and Compaq. When you need the support, who are going to end up speaking with? The maker of the system or some hired phone support of Dell, who doesn�t even know the specifics of your system, but only by a textbook they have in front of them that may only solve half of the problem. I only choose Michael's Computers over any other company because it�s far better to know the maker and someone you can trust and is a Christian.�

Q: When a client says �How can your systems be instant?"

A: Simply, because most operations that occur on other systems take time to load or render. We eliminated the so called "wait-time" a few years ago with inventing our TXK modeling for our Hard Drive systems. Where many systems today are built with just the "fastest" processor, we dive deeper into incorporating the true components that allow every application you run, to run at the fastest speed possible.

If you read those and can't figure out that this is a scam, you deserve to be ripped off. It reads like it was written by a 12 year old.

Indecisive
2004-04-28, 01:08 PM
Lmao. He states that you can trust him because he says hes christian...rofl..

Onizuka
2004-04-28, 05:17 PM
Interesting..