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RF-Oneself
2004-04-28, 10:36 AM
Is there a better race then another race? Like does one race kick ass because of weapons or special things? Which race are you and why do you like them?

oddfish
2004-04-28, 10:39 AM
Is there a better race then another race? Like does one race kick ass because of weapons or special things? Which race are you and why do you like them?

they're empires. not to nitpic, but you might offend someone.

empires. and just play and find out for yourself you poop head.

haha.. kidding. um, really, the only way you can figure that out is by playing. NC hits hardest, TR shoots the most shit into the air, and VS has some of the coolest stuff, plus the UBERLASHER.

Real Mulambo
2004-04-28, 10:40 AM
I hate lashers soooooooooooooooooooooooo much

oddfish
2004-04-28, 10:41 AM
I hate lashers soooooooooooooooooooooooo much

me too.

WolfA4
2004-04-28, 10:58 AM
me too.

sign me up for the club.

*lash lash lash* *dead wolfie*

Cryptica
2004-04-28, 11:00 AM
death to lasher

Onizuka-GTO
2004-04-28, 11:10 AM
ahh. nothing like whipping the dogs tonight.

*wave with a Lasher*

:love:

scarpas
2004-04-28, 12:05 PM
they're empires. not to nitpic, but you might offend someone.

empires. and just play and find out for yourself you poop head.

haha.. kidding. um, really, the only way you can figure that out is by playing. NC hits hardest, TR shoots the most shit into the air, and VS has some of the coolest stuff, plus the UBERLASHER.

:)

easypickings
2004-04-28, 12:13 PM
lashers are gay, they have like 10 meter wide bullets that shoot round corners, only pick VS if your a total noob or can aim to save your life....

ChewyLSB
2004-04-28, 12:48 PM
Are you serious? I have a VS with Heavy Assault and a TR with Heavy Assault, and I like the MCG way more than the Lasher. I can get so many more kills with the MCG than with the lasher, it's not even funny. The lasher requires a HUGE lead, which neither the MCG or the JackHammer need, and plus, the orbs move so slowly, you ahve to compensate for that.

Honestly, I still believe the JackHammer is the best HA.

Eldanesh
2004-04-28, 01:05 PM
Empires, weapons and all, are balenced, the most they ever have been since release. All it comes down too is personal preference in regard to color, mentality, and weapons.

By server, the empire balence is more worked off the quality of the leadership in my opinion. Looking at some of the vs command spam I can understand why they end up zerging 2 continents to death and losing all their others.

Back in beta I chose NC because I liked the colors and the tanks. Plus shotguns own.
HA-wise I would prefer the MCG 3 months ago before it became rexoside. I have been using JH for so long now, plus with its ttk on rexo what it is I would currently take agile/pshield/JH over anything else.... but a scatmax.

easypickings
2004-04-28, 01:15 PM
i agree with that really,
just dont like being shot round corners thats all, but i do belive that all HA weapons are very well balanced

dscytherulez
2004-04-28, 03:43 PM
VS because they have the beamer...

No, just kidding. They are all pretty balanced, just depends on your style of play. You have to play them all and see for yourself.

Phaden
2004-04-28, 03:46 PM
I despise all HA, regardless.

Desperado
2004-04-28, 03:51 PM
I prefer sweeper over lasher, I get better 1 on 1 results from the sweeper, but taking on multiple enemies is where the lasher shines, but then again you could just cert SA.....

TR = elmos
VS = barneys
NC = smurfs

pick one and go with it, they all seem balanced to me :)

JetRaiden
2004-04-28, 07:53 PM
ahh. nothing like whipping the dogs tonight.

*wave with a Lasher*

:love:

everyone hates the other empire's heavy assault, its just natural. I have a TR and NC character, so I know what its like being hammer-owned. Im making a VS character on werner sometime I think, so I can have a full-time character on all three servers (NC Markov, TR emerald and VS werner)

TheRegurgitator
2004-04-28, 08:08 PM
I'm New Conglomerate. It was the first empire page I looked at back in beta and I guess I liked the story. I think I got hooked on their story. Maybe if I would have looked at the other teams first I might've gone with theirs. hmmm... but nc has the best command by far.

Nalar
2004-04-28, 09:43 PM
I chose to be Vanu back before I got into beta. I think i really liked the story behind them and I liked the fact that they were all into the advanced alien technology with the laser guns and floating tanks and stuff. And the armor looks really cool.

But it all comes down to play style. Like someone mentioned earlier, each empire has its niche of weapons. The TR have the fast firing weapons, NC have the hard hitting weapons and the VS have the middle of the road, but good for most situation weapons.

UncleDynamite
2004-04-28, 11:18 PM
I love most everything about the TR: look, colors, and weapons.

JetRaiden has a point, though: you'll naturally hate the Heavy Assault of your rival empires, no matter which empire you choose. By and large, however, everyone is pretty balanced, it's really up to how you want to play.

Gunslanger
2004-04-29, 04:39 AM
OMG, people are attacking the lasher! saying it shoots around corners, and use it as a n00b. :lol: had this arguement in outfit chat the other night. think about it like this: if the lasher is soo uber, why don't you see other empires wielding it that often? you will see VS HA people using the MCG and JH alot more than you'll see TR or NC using the lasher! proof the lasher is not as uber you people make it seem!

By and large, however, everyone is pretty balanced, it's really up to how you want to play.

/agree

Gunslanger
2004-05-03, 04:42 AM
heh, no response there, eh? :p

Eldanesh
2004-05-03, 05:19 AM
think about it like this: if the lasher is soo uber, why don't you see other empires wielding it that often? you will see VS HA people using the MCG and JH alot more than you'll see TR or NC using the lasher! proof the lasher is not as uber you people make it seem!



The lasher has different ammo that other empires also have to store in their locker. That is why you do not see as many cross-empire lasher users. I can fill my locker full of mcgs very efficently, lashers suck to use for anyone not vs.

And again, HA is balenced. :)

Onizuka-GTO
2004-05-03, 05:29 AM
The lasher has different ammo that other empires also have to store in their locker. That is why you do not see as many cross-empire lasher users. I can fill my locker full of mcgs very efficently, lashers suck to use for anyone not vs.

And again, HA is balenced. :)

weeee! Us Vanu got natural anti-theft built into our lashers and pulsars!!
p43r 0uR 4dv4nc3 w34p0n2!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

buttfour9567
2004-05-03, 09:53 AM
i was playing vs a while ago and i noticed that they had no organization at all so i switched over to c22 on emerald as a tr. i love the mcg, the cycler,etc...but i will always have a place in my HART for the lasher and its abilities to pwn when rushing a gen hold.....4 rexo+1 with a lasher* AI MAX= PWNED

SilverLord
2004-05-03, 10:24 AM
Just start a character on each empire and find what you like best. You can go for looks and colors, weapons, style, leadership, the fun aspect, anything. It's just what you prefer, I just switched to the NC from almost being maxed out on emerald TR. I deleted my guy yesterday and started a new one about 2 seconds after. I am glad I finally switched, i've wanted to for a very long time.

TheN00b
2004-05-03, 06:16 PM
everyone hates the other empire's heavy assault, its just natural. I have a TR and NC character, so I know what its like being hammer-owned. Im making a VS character on werner sometime I think, so I can have a full-time character on all three servers (NC Markov, TR emerald and VS werner)

Hmm, me disagrees. I'm fine with the Lasher, and when I was NC, I was fine with the MCG: I think that they're fairly in since with each other in terms of balance. But I feel that the Jackhammer really does need a slight damage nerf to stop it from being so overpowering indoors (I know it's meant to be, but still...). When you're attacking a 'Cong base, a combination of Maelstroms and Jackhammers is practically impossible to beat inside.

JakeLogan
2004-05-03, 06:32 PM
I chose TR because I love the sound of high ROF weapons. (Hell I had a Dashi with nothing but machine guns in MW4:Mercs)

oddfish
2004-05-03, 06:38 PM
Hmm, me disagrees. I'm fine with the Lasher, and when I was NC, I was fine with the MCG: I think that they're fairly in since with each other in terms of balance. But I feel that the Jackhammer really does need a slight damage nerf to stop it from being so overpowering indoors (I know it's meant to be, but still...). When you're attacking a 'Cong base, a combination of Maelstroms and Jackhammers is practically impossible to beat inside.

This Heavy Assault argument is getting really fucking old. Not flaming anyone or trolling or anything. I'm just saying: The HA weapons are gonna be the way they are and they don't need any changes. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SEEM OVERPOWERD AND FRUSTRATING TO FIGHT AGAINST! That's the whole point. Aside from tearing you a new asshole, they should also piss you off. Demoralize you. They're powerful for more than just the reasons of combat, also they are powerful to be tools of fear and frustration in the game. Like a flamethrower to WWII Infantry, not much you can do, just outmaneuver the damn thing. If you can't, well, consider yourself done. :(

Gunslanger
2004-05-04, 04:40 AM
i think HA is ok the way it is. i don't see a major need for change. but, i am just pointing out a fact.
The lasher has different ammo that other empires also have to store in their locker. That is why you do not see as many cross-empire lasher users. I can fill my locker full of mcgs very efficently, lashers suck to use for anyone not vs.
we all know that is not totally true. yes, it sucks to put a lasher with ammo in a locker. but, people more often pick up weapons on the battle field looted from dead enemies corpses. for example, usually when i use a jackhammer or MCG, i loot it on the battlefield. All my favorites except my agile fav are totally the exclusive vanu ammo. i don't carry 9mm or AP rounds EVER. not to mention shotgun rounds. but, its not a big deal when your looting off the dead in the field, because you just swap most of your rounds for theirs. i save a box or so of rounds for my pulser. so, the excuse of "the reason you don't see many people using the lasher is because the ammo is different" is bullshit.

Eldanesh
2004-05-04, 05:12 AM
i think HA is ok the way it is. i don't see a major need for change. but, i am just pointing out a fact.

we all know that is not totally true. yes, it sucks to put a lasher with ammo in a locker. but, people more often pick up weapons on the battle field looted from dead enemies corpses. for example, usually when i use a jackhammer or MCG, i loot it on the battlefield. All my favorites except my agile fav are totally the exclusive vanu ammo. i don't carry 9mm or AP rounds EVER. not to mention shotgun rounds. but, its not a big deal when your looting off the dead in the field, because you just swap most of your rounds for theirs. i save a box or so of rounds for my pulser. so, the excuse of "the reason you don't see many people using the lasher is because the ammo is different" is bullshit.

THe arguement that the lasher must suck because *you* don't see everyone dropping whatever they carry to pick it up is also BS ;) I know that unless I am in a tower, I probably will loot another empire HA given I have enough time ot do so. I have seen plenty of NC using looted lashers, somtimes I see tr using looted lashers against nc, However the energy ammo is a reason why the lasher may not see as much storage.

Lartnev
2004-05-04, 09:04 AM
I guess it was inevitable that a question about the various empires would lead to a slugging match over the HAs.... ok it's not that bad yet, but lets not get to that point :chill:

Gunslanger
2004-05-04, 04:44 PM
i didn't say Lasher sucked...go back in this thread and tell me where i said the lasher sucked...ok, now, what i did say is that all these people claim its sooo uber, yet i almost never see it when i'm in the battlefield except on Vanu. not nearly as often as i see Vanu looting JH and MCG. my point being that if its so good (referring to the comment on how its overpowered and it just pwns), why don't i see it on the battlefield. didn't say it sucked. like i said, i think HA is fine the way it is. just calling out those people that swear its so uber.