View Full Version : The french resistance in WW2
Jaged
2004-05-02, 09:29 PM
I have a report due on this topic soon. Does anyone know any info on it that they would be willing to share with me.
And I know some one is going to post the google smilie. I am indeed raping google for all its worth on this topic.
Setari
2004-05-02, 09:31 PM
what resistance.
Strygun
2004-05-02, 09:33 PM
:google:
EineBeBoP
2004-05-02, 09:35 PM
what resistance.
:lol: thats exactally what I was going to say.
I think tea was served when the germans arrived.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 09:35 PM
Thank you strygun :D
And regardless of how much of a fight they put up, I still have my report.
EarlyDawn
2004-05-02, 09:37 PM
...This will be a short paper.
JetRaiden
2004-05-02, 09:55 PM
:rofl: :rofl:
omg france bashing never gets old.
Mr1337Duck
2004-05-02, 10:08 PM
The French resistence was probably one of the brightest points in French history. When the Germans took over they waged an intelligence war. I have a good story here:
The Germans held this mansion, and a guy who worked there, who was a member of the resistence, knew where they kept loads of documents about troop positions. But guards checked everyone moving stuff out of the castle. So this guy was sneaking in rats instead of lunch, lots of rats. When it became severe, the germans hired an exterminator. Another member applied, saying that the rats were French, and only special methods could be used to get them out. He goes in, catches a bunch of them, and starts to take them out, and the guard checks him. The rats jump out and run back into the castle. The "exterminator" swears a bit, then tells the guard to stay there so he doen't have to catch them a third time. He goes back, catches the rats again, and stashes the papers in the box with them. The guard is obviously not wanting to make the guy do it again, so the "exterminator" sneaks out with documents that helped the British make a major assault.
Funny thing is that the underground people were thugs, murderers, thieves, other such criminals. And they were way more loyal to their country than anyone else was.
Setari
2004-05-02, 10:12 PM
lol French thugs.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 10:16 PM
lol French thugs.
An oxymoron.
And thank you 1337duck.
General. lee
2004-05-02, 10:17 PM
there was No resistance the 3rd Reich marched in blew some shit up then listened to the country scream I surrender...yeah but enough with the french bashing the rest of europe would have done the same thing if Germany hadent opened up a 3rd front to the east.
also in ur report add if it werent for the Americans the french would be speaking German right know...lol im sry i just had to say it ok im through with the bashing know:)
Strygun
2004-05-02, 10:27 PM
:google:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=french+resistance+in+ww2
Biohazzard56
2004-05-02, 10:35 PM
The french before D-Day got an advanced warning by a few days and helped destroy some bridges that prevented Mechanized German from moving south into the Causeways from the northern coentin peninsula, they also cut communication lines from the causeways to the beaches, not vital but still prevented alot of Headaches. I learned this from the book D-Day from the guy who wrote Band of Brothers (Steven E. Ambrose) if you want another good book to read, refer to the code:
D-Day>Band of Brothers=Citizen Soldiers
All of those were written by Steve E. Ambrose, who is also an executive and historical director for Band of Brothers Mini-Series.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 10:37 PM
And I know some one is going to post the google smilie. I am indeed raping google for all its worth on this topic.
:google:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=french+resistance+in+ww2
BlackHawk
2004-05-02, 10:58 PM
also in ur report add if it werent for the Americans the french would be speaking German right know...lol im sry i just had to say it ok im through with the bashing know:)
If it weren't for the Soviets soaking up 2/3rds of the German army for the better part of the war, the western Allies never would have made it to Berlin.
Dharkbayne
2004-05-02, 11:04 PM
I'm sick of people saying "IF IT WASN'T FOR AMERICA, U ALL WOULDA DIED"
It was a JOINT EFFORT, the U.S. didn't do everything, it took almost all of europe to defeat the Axis, not just the U.S.
Jesus christ, watch the history channel.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 11:07 PM
The war was close dhark. Without any of the key parties involved the war could of easily gone the other way. The US was definatly a key party. It is safe to say that with out us the war would of been lost. You can say that about almost any country that fought in the war.
AztecWarrior
2004-05-02, 11:14 PM
We were important. Had it not been for us, bear in mind that:
A: Japan would have beaten China, then pwned the Pacific.
B: Germany would have rallied, taken over England, then proabably stalemated the USSR. England was totally unprepared for an invasion, it was just able to make it via its air force and navy.
Setari
2004-05-02, 11:15 PM
lets not turn this into a pol debate.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 11:16 PM
yes, this is not a thread to discuss the US's role in the war. It is to discuss the French peoples role in thw war.
AztecWarrior
2004-05-02, 11:16 PM
It can't, unless we debate the effectiveness of each government. It COULD turn into a historical debate...
Setari
2004-05-02, 11:16 PM
It can't, unless we debate the effectiveness of each government. It COULD turn into a historical debate...
i stand corrected.
Rbstr
2004-05-02, 11:19 PM
If it weren't for the Soviets soaking up 2/3rds of the German army for the better part of the war, the western Allies never would have made it to Berlin.
Yeah if Hittler was smart and didn't attack the Soviets it woudl have been a very different war
Dharkbayne
2004-05-02, 11:24 PM
The war was close dhark. Without any of the key parties involved the war could of easily gone the other way. The US was definatly a key party. It is safe to say that with out us the war would of been lost. You can say that about almost any country that fought in the war.
That's what I mean, I'm just sick of people thinking that the US won the entire war alone, and whatnot.
Setari
2004-05-02, 11:26 PM
i was watching some movie about d-day on the history channel and they were talking about the beaches. but they neglected to mention canada :rolleyes:
Dharkbayne
2004-05-02, 11:27 PM
I don't think there was alot of fighting on that one (Juno, if I remember)
Rbstr
2004-05-02, 11:27 PM
canada did take one beachhead didn't they? They did quite well in the war, they just didn't have as many people so the wree kinda forgotten
Jaged
2004-05-02, 11:28 PM
FRENCH resistance people
Dharkbayne
2004-05-02, 11:29 PM
I think it was Canada and Britain on that one, I don't think the canadian army attacked a beach alone.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 11:33 PM
My thread has been hijacked.
UncleDynamite
2004-05-02, 11:34 PM
Random factoid: France is the only country to have lost two wars to Italy.
Anyway, back on topic: can your paper include information on how the French helped hide Jewish refugees? If it can, I might have some information on that.
Jaged
2004-05-02, 11:36 PM
Random factoid: France is the only country to have lost two wars to Italy.
Anyway, back on topic: can your paper include information on how the French helped hide Jewish refugees? If it can, I might have some information on that.Sure, tell me everything you got.
Cyanide
2004-05-02, 11:46 PM
Summary of the French resistance in WW2:
French military guy: "Let's build a le wall of guns to keep out the le Germans"
Other French military guy: "but I am le tired"
French military guy: "Well then take a nap....AND THEN BUILD THE LE WALL!!!1"
Another French Military guy: "I am Jean-Luc Picard, of the U.S.S Enterprise"
A little while later...at the wall of guns
French military guy: "Here come the le Germans"
Other French military guy: "Uh, I le think they are le walking around us"
Another French military guy: "Oh le NOES!!!....I am Jean-Luc Picard, U.S.S Enterprise!"
French military guy: "Ok, lets le surrender and le hide behind the Americans and British"
The End
UncleDynamite
2004-05-02, 11:47 PM
One of the best examples of the French hiding **** is in the town of Le Chambon-sur-Lignon. After France surrendered to Germany, the pastor of the town gave a speech that led to what one person call "a conspiracy of goodness." If I remember correctly, the town had 5,000 Christians that managed to hide some 5,000 **** during the war. There's a documentary about it called "Weapons of the Spirit." Though it's pretty dry, it gives a good overview of the actions those people took. You'd probably get the same information with a Google search on "Le Chambon-sur-Lignon" and "Weapons of the spirit," though.
That's all that comes to mind, but I'll give you more if I think of any.
Setari
2004-05-02, 11:51 PM
Summary of the French resistance in WW2:
French military guy: "Let's build a le wall of guns to keep out the le Germans"
Other French military guy: "but I am le tired"
French military guy: "Well then take a nap....AND THEN BUILD THE LE WALL!!!1"
Another French Military guy: "I am Jean-Luc Picard, of the U.S.S Enterprise"
A little while later...at the wall of guns
French military guy: "Here come the le Germans"
Other French military guy: "Uh, I le think they are le walking around us"
Another French military guy: "Oh le NOES!!!....I am Jean-Luc Picard, U.S.S Enterprise!"
French military guy: "Ok, lets le surrender and le hide behind the Americans and British"
The End
The Picard thing doesnt work cuz it wouldnt be USS.
Cyanide
2004-05-02, 11:56 PM
Picard is from france...duh.
And he's not on the ship at that moment. I hate it when I have to explain humor to people...
I Hate Pants
2004-05-02, 11:59 PM
I don't think there was alot of fighting on that one (Juno, if I remember)
Oh how wrong you are.
We took juno all by ourselves, and suffered the second highest casualties of all beach landings. Omaha took the most. But that beach landing was a disaster. Canadians were the only ones out of all the beach landing to complete all objectives. From then on we moved into Caen, where thier was heavy fighting with the Germans. We managed to take the city, and that was done by ourselves too.
Im only stating the facts here, so don't turn this into an America vs. Canada thread again.
Smaug
2004-05-03, 12:02 AM
U.S.S. stands for United States Ship, duh.
- I hate when people edit their posts and make mine meaningless.
Veteran
2004-05-03, 12:18 AM
The Maginot Line is a direct parallel to the worthlessness of America's beloved Missile Defense System.
France could have used the resources that it took to construct the Maginot Line to pose an effective defense if certain corrupt contractors didn't line their pockets with the money.
Now they have a long row of concrete mushroom farms. So it goes.
OfaLoaf
2004-05-03, 07:09 AM
U.S.S. stands for United States Ship, duh.
Eh, for Trek it doesn't.
And as for the French resistance, I'm surprised no-ones mentioned Charles deGalle.
DeadTeddy
2004-05-03, 08:28 AM
there was an underground, but I think it was only outside the area of the vichy goverment.
and as for the war, the germans were winning until they got stuck in the russian winter. THAT is what made such a difference on the eastern front. combine that with the americans bombing every supply route and you have starving germans with no tracks for their tanks and not enough ammo. if I remmember right the russians lost something like 52 million soldiers in that war, so give them some respect.
HunterKiller
2004-05-03, 09:28 AM
Yeah if Hittler was smart and didn't attack the Soviets it woudl have been a very different war
and if they would have developed their jet planes sooner.
OfaLoaf
2004-05-03, 03:58 PM
and if they would have developed their jet planes sooner.
Eh, there are documented dogfights where the props downed the jets. not only that, the Allies were also working on jets as well...
:rofl: :rofl:
omg france bashing never gets old.
Yeah it does, like 40 years ago.
DeadTeddy
2004-05-03, 05:07 PM
Yeah it does, like 40 years ago.
maybe in france ;)
Biohazzard56
2004-05-03, 05:35 PM
Hitler could not change the tide after Barborssa to say that Hitler could take on England and Russia is incorrect. I read rise and fall of the third reich and it talked about Operation Sea Lion that was supposed to take place on September 11th, 1941. The problem was the English Channel, hitler abandoned the plan and went after Russia, then Barborssa and El Alamein and the rest is history. About the French Resistance, the French back then were not like the pussy french we have today. They did help us in WW2. We should have left the french by themselves in Vietnam, Battlefield: Total Recall :rofl:
Angel_of_Death
2004-05-03, 05:36 PM
and if they would have developed their jet planes sooner.
Or if they made the A-Bomb quicker...they had the technology and were further in development than the US, but halted progress due to the war effort.
I don't know anything 'bout the resistance though...
Oh, and Hitler made 3 big mistakes, not just attacking the Soviet until winter.
Onizuka-GTO
2004-05-03, 07:14 PM
British, Canadian and Regiments of the British Indian Army, assault some of the beaches together.
Ironic that people complain that Canadians aren't really mentioned, and yet we have forgotten all about the Indian Army.
As for turning points in the War.
Hitler switch his focus after the defeat of the "Battle of Britain" you cannot shake that fact. If it wasn't for that singular effort, and if Hitler had continued his assault for even a month longer Britain would of lost it's entire Air Force. Lost of Air superiority would of lead to the eventually conquest of our Islands. This would of then gave the Germans a base to plant future defences against any future attack from the USA.
Second Point.
As oppose to popular belief that the USA was cause of the eventual victory of WWII is only half true.
Americans only won the Eastern Hemisphere side of the War.
The Russians won the original conflict, which is shown clearly when the war was unofficially ended when Russian Tanks after some impatient negotiation with its Allies, waited until Western half was close enought to Berlin before they rolled the Red Hammer into the city.
Russia is the real reason we won the war. Hitler underestimated the ferocity of it's people, its weapons and its capabilities. By the end of 1944, Russia had the most heaviest tanks that was practically invincible to any tanks of it's allies or german counterpart.
They had 100:1 ratio in terms of infantry, vehicles, aircraft (Such as the Anti-tank rocket firing busting Sturmovik IL-2 a.k.a FLYING TANK ).
And it was all thanks to Hitler, for turning like a rabie dog upon the sleeping bear. Don't attack bears. really.
;)
P.S: also Britain was the central organisation HQ of all Partisan Resistance against the German in the WHOLE of Europe.
Without S.O.E we would never of got all those secret information, documents, tactical movements, and stragically crippling targets that made D-Day possible.
Oh and the British also designed the first Jet-Engine, But came second in production a working operational jet-aircraft behind the Germans.
:p
Mr1337Duck
2004-05-03, 07:43 PM
In response to earlier posts about the US sucking and not being important:
We held the Pacific front. We captured island after island leading up to Japan. We were also very important in the siege of France. We did two of the five beaches, took a ton of the towns there. The Soviets and British were also critical. The French were out of commission for the later parts of the war. The Brits, Americans, and Soviets were the only ones who hadn't either been wasted by Hitler, or captured by him.
OfaLoaf
2004-05-03, 08:48 PM
Or if they made the A-Bomb quicker...they had the technology and were further in development than the US, but halted progress due to the war effort.
I don't know anything 'bout the resistance though...
Oh, and Hitler made 3 big mistakes, not just attacking the Soviet until winter.
I saw this one History Channel thing about the Nazis and Nukes... the US thought they were going at a steady research clip, but in fact, they screwed up bad. They scarcely had any idea at all what they were doing.
Happy lil Elf
2004-05-03, 11:03 PM
If it weren't for the Soviets soaking up 2/3rds of the German army for the better part of the war, the western Allies never would have made it to Berlin.
And if it weren't for Hitler being a power hungry fucking nut he wouldn't have attacked the soviets. Of course if Hitler hadn't of been a power hungry fucking nut, he wouldn't have started invading countries sooo...yeah.
Dhark was right (hold on.................ok, sky isn't falling, whew!) in saying it was a joint effort. To put it in simple terms: A lot of shit went down, much of it because of the previous shit that went down. Trying to give credit to any one event is idiotic at best.
General. lee
2004-05-04, 09:01 PM
Shit i would be a power hungry fucking nut if i won the 1st class iron cross of bravery in ww1 for being in a regiment that had everybody killed and had new people replaced 50 times!!!!!!!!!! and survived everytime and no one else did shit i would think i was on the top of the world...............................also i was watching the history channel about the german blitzkreig into russia trying to beat the winter, well anyways i cant remember the german tanks name but it blew up 43 russian tanks by its self and had to retreit because it was out of ammo!
then it showed a clip of when the russians invaded gemany and it showed russian and german tanks fighting in a destroyed city, and the german tank ended up getting blown up and like 5 seconds after it got nailed, a german soilder hoped out of the tank with only 1 leg and started hoping away! i was like damn thats one crazy ass fucking badass i would be laying on the ground screamnin or something!
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