Damage of Weapons

[NeoTassadar]

Approx. how much will it take to eat through the 100 health (not armor, I can figure that out) with say, a Vanu Beamer? I know the things still being tweaked, but a ballpark figure would be nice. I hope it's not a lot like Halo, but not as little as Ghost Recon (well, maybe that much because of armor). I'm all about first strike, so I hope it's somewhere near realistic.

[Tobias]

To kill some one with a beamer:

Inf suit:
Headshots 2
Body: 6-9
Standard Armor:
Headshots: 2-3
Body: 9-12
Agile Exo suit:
Headshots: 2-3
Body: 10-12
Renforced:
Headshots: 3-4
Body: 10-16
MAX: How much ammo do you have?

[Ludio]

The devs have stated that there aren't going to be any headshots.

They could change that of course.

[The Eternal]

I'm pretty sure they said they'd have headshots, I remeber they were talking about Sniping and said it take one headshot to kill somebody in Agile armor... I could be wrong, But I'm pretty sure there are headshots.

[Sputty]

NONONONONONO...There are no headshots!!! Unless the devs changed that, which would be HUGE news, there are no headshots or any region specific damage

[Civilian]

No headshots=Spray & Pray

Chainguns and Cycler's will dominate the game and snipers will be able to aim for the torso and get kills in 2-4 shots? meh

[Sputty]

Ehhh, actually only an idiot would do that but anyway, there's a bunch of threads on this already. Look a tthose. Also, remember poeple will nomrally get lucky headshots. Praying won't working with this type of aiming system either. Only short controlled bursts. Also, snipers are powerful enough and it allws them to aim for the body, as they should anyway. This isn't Quake, it's not meant to be a frag fest but a tactical FPS

[Hamma]

Lets not debate snipers until we actually know how they operate.

No matter how they end up, someone will be pissed.

[Sputty]

Yep, if tehy find middle ground, everyone will be a little pissed. If they do one side then the other side will whine until they send it to the other side and so and so forth

[obskure]

no headshots = lose

[Zanzibar]

but actually..hama dus only the person who gets the kill get BEP? cus if not then it dont matter peeps were complaining that if you shot sum1 wit a sniper rifle then theyd just come over and kik yo punai lil ass. but then its ure own fault for goin out on your own! and if youre not then hey! let your mates guard you!
ps oh shit this is turing into anuver sniper post innit?
pps sputty hit the nail on the head with thatone
ppps what obscure?!!

[NapalmEnima]

To address each of the questions asked here:

1) There are no hit locations... you hit or you don't.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum2/HTML/001729.html

Scroll down about half way... get the straight dope from SJ.

2) BEP: Everyone gets the same BEP for a kill, alone or with a squad of 10. So get in a squad, you'll get x10 the experience. Providing that the rest of the squad kills as fast as you do, of course. One could argue that you'll actually get BEP faster, because you don't die so often, get your armor and health repaird, etc.

Just get in a squad.

http://www.planetside.info/psdevchat2.txt

Again, about half way down. Just search for "bep", you'll go right to the question... the answer is a couple lines down from there.



The truth is out there.

So go find it.

Ya bums. :p

[Civilian]

Turn your sniper-thread radar down. I'm not interested in debating or discussing snipers, that was just an example.

I am interested in the merit of a system where you take 2 shooters on opposing sides, at close range, using the same weapon, 1 fires at the feet and gets 5 hits, the other fires at the head and gets 4 hits and the one that was shooting at the head dies.

[FraBaktos]

I have heard many times that there will be headshots but ONLY for snipers... I am pretty sure that is true

[diluted]

no hit specific locations. awww. at least a SMALL damage change. instead of doing 10, it would do 20 or maybe 15 :(

[Warborn]

Originally posted by FraBaktos
I have heard many times that there will be headshots but ONLY for snipers... I am pretty sure that is true

Where's the sense in having headshots but only for snipers? Are regular, non-sniper bullets incapable of penetrating helmets?

As for the reason why there aren't any headshots, it's to keep the game more newbie-friendly. This is an MMOG, remember. They base their success on how many customers they have. In Counter-strike for example, headshots are King. And newbies who aren't good at aiming for the head get annihilated. That simply cannot be allowed to happen in PS.

[diluted]

even so i like my idea. 50% of normal damage is added when it hits the head. noobs wont have a big problem with it and im sure the vets would appreciate it too.

[Navaron]

PREFACE!!! THIS FELL OFF THE RADAR - SO COULD BE OUTDATED

I remember hearing that the headshots for kills were only for the boltdriver. Other weapons didn't have that. This however, dissapeared. So who the hell knows. I bet the devs got sick of sniper threads, just stopped giving info on it, and they'll just figure it out in beta.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by FraBaktos
I have heard many times that there will be headshots but ONLY for snipers... I am pretty sure that is true
So far the only things devs have said is that there is no region specific damage. Find where it says that and I'll believe but I have heard alot from different people who've played that there's no headshots. This may be changed but so far no news on it

[SandTrout]

I have heard a lot about there being no head-shots from the forums, yet I still havent seen any chat logs that have Devs saying there are only headshots from bolt-drivers. Could you please link me to record of a dev saying there were only bolt-driver headshots?

[ZeroMasters]

im gona snipe some ones foot and kill em??? well er, that, uh would suck....a buller hits your fingertips and poof, your KIA.......

[LesserShade]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
PREFACE!!! THIS FELL OFF THE RADAR - SO COULD BE OUTDATED

I remember hearing that the headshots for kills were only for the boltdriver. Other weapons didn't have that. This however, dissapeared. So who the hell knows. I bet the devs got sick of sniper threads, just stopped giving info on it, and they'll just figure it out in beta.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is true.. think Dave G, think t2, think laser rifle.. only weapon that can get headshots in t2. Dunno.. *shrugs*

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by LesserShade
I wouldn't be surprised if it is true.. think Dave G, think t2, think laser rifle.. only weapon that can get headshots in t2. Dunno.. *shrugs*

Not true. Even in T1 most weapons did different damage based on where they hit. A spinfusor could take 3 shots to kill a light if you hit him in the leg, but only 2 if you hit him in the chest/head.

Same with chainguns and blasters. Mortars, well didn't realy matter, did it?

However, the difference in the damage done with a headshot vs. the likelyhood of geting one with those weapons was neglidgable at best.

Shocklances in T2 also had location variables that were as noticable as the laser-rifle. It was posible to 1-shot a heavy with a shocklance to the back of the head.

[LesserShade]

you can shocklance a heavy and kill him one shot anywhere so long as he has his back turned to you.

[SandTrout]

Realy? I never played T2 that much, didn't have the apeal of the original.

Er, lets avoid a flame war and stop this debate here though. Planetside is the first in the next generation of multi-player games.

Pong->Doom->Quake->Tribes->Planetside

We can only dream about what will follow Planetside in the FPS hall of fame.

[LesserShade]

Originally posted by SandTrout
Pong->Doom->Quake->Tribes->Planetside
:.) ah yes, PS definitely seems to take the FPS genre to the next level. The FPS world needed something revolutionary, this last year has been pretty dry titlewise.

[Ludio]

The FPS world needed something revolutionary, this last year has been pretty dry titlewise.

So MOHAA, Global Ops, JK2: Jedi Outcast, SOF2, Battlefield 1942, Mafia, NOLF2, Hitman 2 and UT2k3 is a pretty dry year huh? :D

Damn, I would hate to see your standards...you sure Planetside is worthy of you? Sorry, I dont mean to nitpick, but there were plenty of good FPS titles in the last year.

[Sputty]

2002 was a great year for gaming on the Pc. Alot of great titles came out