A Tribute to Nicholas Berg

[snowwolfe]

Best wishes to his family who has to live with knowing what happened to his son, and knowing anyone can access the video on the net with ease. I did not watch it nor am I interested in watching it. The son of a bitches who did this to him are going to pay.


:usa:

[Rayder]

Mind me asking who Nicholas Berg is? Was he the prisoner that was killed?

[snowwolfe]

He was an american contractor I believe who went to Iraq to do communications work and was in the wrong place at the wrong time. They caught him, cut his head off with a knife (or something) filmed it and released it.

[Dharkbayne]

:usa: :tear:

[Jaged]

Lots of people have died in iraq and lots more will die. I don't mean to sound cold, but why morn this guys death any more then another guys death?

[Infernus]

Best wishes to his family who has to live with knowing what happened to his son, and knowing anyone can access the video on the net with ease. I did not watch it nor am I interested in watching it. The son of a bitches who did this to him are going to pay.


:usa:

Indeed... his family is my uncle's neighbor...

EDIT:Lots of people have died in iraq and lots more will die. I don't mean to sound cold, but why morn this guys death any more then another guys death?

Cause of the way he was brutally decapitated on an internet video... and on that note... Not for the Weak of Heart...***not for PSU, either*** (http://*******)

WARNING: THAT LINK LEADS TO A VERY GRUSOME WAR CRIME! ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!

[Angel_of_Death]

Ya I've noticed it's been going around. I'm not squeemish or have a weak stomach or anything, I just don't want to see it.

[snowwolfe]

Lots of people have died in iraq and lots more will die. I don't mean to sound cold, but why morn this guys death any more then another guys death?


This is true, but they dont film everyone they kill and release it to the public like this. I mean, its bad enough he got killed, but how would you feel if you knew anyone that could access the internet could see your son getting his head cut off?

[ghost018]

His head was sawed off, Jaged. And he wasn't even a member of the military.

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[Jaged]

So we morn his death more because we have a video tape of it? What a shallow society we live in.

Edit: In reply to ghosts post.
I am sure some of our soldiers have met some very grusome (sp?) ends too. And no madder if you are in the military or not, you are still a human being.

[ghost018]

If you're trying to make some deep philisophical statement, use another thread.

[snowwolfe]

Thats your opinion and im not going to argue about it.

[Jaged]

Look, i really don't mean to sound cold. It is not that I don't care about his death. I do care. All loss of life is sad. I just don't care about his death any more then any other death and I don't understand why others do.

[Strygun]

I eidted out the link of the video. I personally havn't watched it, but from what I hear it is extremely graphic and not for the weak at heart. (Normally I can handle things like this, but I somehow know that if I watch it, it will stick with me. I don't want that.)

You can PM Infernus if you truly wish to watch the actual death of a human being.

http://www.dragonwolves.com/forums/images/smilies/salute.gif

[snowwolfe]

I see where your coming from, but all the other deaths just arent presented like this one.

[Dharkbayne]

from what you hear? It's a guy getting his head cut off, of course it is, anyways, that's just sick, and anyone who says it's because of the whole prison "scandal", they would've killed him anyways. We should nuke that whole fucking region into glass. Nothing good has ever come out of it.

[snowwolfe]

Yeah I agree strygun, just something I dont want in my memory so I havent and most likely never will watch it.

[Strygun]

Oh, one more thing.

Don't let this thread turn into a political debate.. otherwise, it'll have to be moved to the, well obviously, political debate forum.

[d3ath4u]

me sad. :( I really feel sorry for his family, and how they have to deal with this, especially when the whole world knows about it, and can even watch his death. I'll say a prayer for the family.

[Hamma]

Please never post that link anywhere on these forums, it is disrespectful not to mention nasty.

As for "why is this guys death different" it really isnt all that different than everyone else who dies in iraq. However, it is different because this man is a civilian all he was doing there was working. He had no weapons or anything. It was brutally murdered on camera, then these images were broadcast around the world for everyone to see. It's yet more proof that the enemy we fight has no mercy, and more proof that the enemy we fight no longer has an army, at least not one where the battle lines are drawn.

Like it or not this guys death is different from the others, this man was a normal person simply going to iraq to work.

[Kikinchikin]

Agreed Hamma. The animals that did this should pay tenfold. It's just sick and inhumane.

[Hezzy]

That's bad. :(

BTW, the video isn't really grusome; you can't see anything graphic, apart from the end, but still, it's of a person being killed.

[Navaron]

I think it's important to remember that he was Jewish, as was Daniel Pearl and many others.

[HunterKiller]

:usa: to all Americans

[Triggar]

The other thing that makes his death different from a military death is, when a soldier is captured and killed (or just killed in battle), they were trained and had the opportunity to defend themself. They had weapons and it was a fair fight. But what happened in this video was, these armed (and psychotic) men grabbed a civilian who was there TO REBUILD THEIR COUNTRY and violated the Geneva Convention by showing his gruesome death.

I understand that death is death, and that soldiers and civilians are all humans, but what's infuriating is that it was a completely unfair fight - the man who was killed had neither the training nor the means to defend himself.

[lightfire]

The other thing that makes his death different from a military death is, when a soldier is captured and killed (or just killed in battle), they were trained and had the opportunity to defend themself. They had weapons and it was a fair fight. But what happened in this video was, these armed (and psychotic) men grabbed a civilian who was there TO REBUILD THEIR COUNTRY and violated the Geneva Convention by showing his gruesome death.

I understand that death is death, and that soldiers and civilians are all humans, but what's infuriating is that it was a completely unfair fight - the man who was killed had neither the training nor the means to defend himself.

yes yes your right triggar but, we did violate the geneva convention as well.

[Infernus]

I eidted out the link of the video. I personally havn't watched it, but from what I hear it is extremely graphic and not for the weak at heart.

Please never post that link anywhere on these forums, it is disrespectful not to mention nasty.

sorries...

[JakeLogan]

yes yes your right triggar but, we did violate the geneva convention as well.
2 wrongs don't make a right.