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I Hate Pants
2004-05-26, 02:15 PM
Sorry if this has been asked already and please don't burn me too hard. But is it neccessary to still keep the pol. debate forum for contributors only now that PSU doesn't depend on donations anymore?

Sputty
2004-05-26, 02:17 PM
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Mr1337Duck
2004-05-26, 02:17 PM
Hmm... good question.

Kaltagesta
2004-05-26, 02:17 PM
Only if you beat Lex in a 'The war was right!' debate. So, in short, no.

TekDragon
2004-05-26, 02:18 PM
Only if you beat Lex in a 'The war was right!' debate. So, in short, no.

:rofl:

OfaLoaf
2004-05-26, 02:19 PM
Only if you beat Lex in a 'The war was right!' debate. So, in short, no.
:lol:


Please can the Political Debate forum be opened to non-contributors again? Pleeeeeeease?

Red October
2004-05-26, 02:25 PM
I'd prefer it stay locked. Its like an addiction to smoking, you know its bad for you, but you do it anyways. Hamma is helping me in my recovery.

Hezzy
2004-05-26, 03:20 PM
Just send Hamma $10. It's not hard.

Onizuka-GTO
2004-05-26, 03:21 PM
I say keep it like that, it's nice with Lex and Headrattle keeping the peace, and chewing up everyone who dare to post without thinking first...
:rofl:

Ivan
2004-05-26, 03:22 PM
The money you still donate will go towords a new and better server for PSU.

OfaLoaf
2004-05-26, 03:59 PM
The money you still donate will go towords a new and better server for PSU.
Does that warrant us contributing before we can go into Pol. Debate?

TekDragon
2004-05-26, 04:07 PM
I say keep it like that, it's nice with Lex and Headrattle keeping the peace, and chewing up everyone who dare to post without thinking first...
:rofl:

:rolleyes:

Yeah.... you've obviously never been to the pol debate forum.

MrVicchio
2004-05-26, 04:13 PM
No its become a deserted forum but a few angry souls, I say release the locks Hamma!

Glaynor
2004-05-26, 04:33 PM
The money you still donate will go towords a new and better server for PSU.


That is such bullshit. By what you are saying, only those who want to post in political debate must pay to upgrade the servers. I understood when those in political debate and hot girls had to pay to keep PSU going, but now we have to pay for upgrades. That is unfair, completely unfair.

Ivan
2004-05-26, 04:42 PM
That is such bullshit. By what you are saying, only those who want to post in political debate must pay to upgrade the servers. I understood when those in political debate and hot girls had to pay to keep PSU going, but now we have to pay for upgrades. That is unfair, completely unfair.
All I was saying is where your money goes when you donate. I didn't say Hamma was going to keep it locked. Chill out man. Have a...

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Glaynor
2004-05-26, 04:56 PM
All I was saying is where your money goes when you donate. I didn't say Hamma was going to keep it locked. Chill out man. Have a...

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I misunderstood what you were saying. My bad. I read into it that it was going to be kept locked.

Ivan
2004-05-26, 05:00 PM
I misunderstood what you were saying. My bad. I read into it that it was going to be kept locked.
No problem man. Thought that was the case.

:groovy: :hug: ;)

Red October
2004-05-26, 06:54 PM
No its become a deserted forum but a few angry souls, I say release the locks Hamma!


NO! NO! Not before I complete my 12-step program! The urge to post will overwhelm me!

OfaLoaf
2004-05-26, 06:59 PM
NO! NO! Not before I complete my 12-step program! The urge to post will overwhelm me!
You must submit to the will of the post.... you must submit.... cast off your foolish program and become one of the borg-- er, one of the political debaters.... you will be tempted 3 times this week...







Sean Hannity is TEH MAN!

Navaron
2004-05-26, 07:12 PM
No its become a deserted forum but a few angry souls, I say release the locks Hamma!


Admitting you have a problem is the first step. I'm proud. ;)

Onizuka-GTO
2004-05-26, 09:12 PM
:rolleyes:

Yeah.... you've obviously never been to the pol debate forum.

Actually i frequently visit there, i find it very interesting though I can't post due to obvious reasons.

But it's great fun, watching Headrattle and Lex chew everyone out.
:lol:

obviously your still stinging from the previous tussle with the pair, i mean really i don't know why you bother to argue with them.
:rolleyes:

It's like the monkey that keeps charging into the Siberian Wolve cage... :rofl:

MrVicchio
2004-05-26, 09:52 PM
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. I'm proud. ;)


Yes I have a problem. Not enough posters in the Political debate forum. Your point?

EineBeBoP
2004-05-26, 09:58 PM
It's like the monkey that keeps charging into the Siberian Wolve cage... :rofl:

:lol:

:thumbsup:

TekDragon
2004-05-26, 10:21 PM
lol, that's funny.

It must be fun being a liberal sheeple. You can follow and agree with any other liberal, no matter how wrongheaded they are and how much they act like fools while debating.

The fact that you make that generalized blanket comment, coupled with the fact that headrattle and Lex are about as opposite as night and day, lead me to believe your just a troll.

GG :)

Navaron
2004-05-26, 10:27 PM
lol, that's funny.

It must be fun being a liberal sheeple. You can follow and agree with any other liberal, no matter how wrongheaded they are and how much they act like fools while debating.

The fact that you make that generalized blanket comment, coupled with the fact that headrattle and Lex are about as opposite as night and day, lead me to believe your just a troll.

GG :)


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I Hate Pants
2004-05-26, 10:36 PM
lol, that's funny.

It must be fun being a liberal sheeple. You can follow and agree with any other liberal, no matter how wrongheaded they are and how much they act like fools while debating.

The fact that you make that generalized blanket comment, coupled with the fact that headrattle and Lex are about as opposite as night and day, lead me to believe your just a troll.

GG :)
It never ends with you. Does it?

OfaLoaf
2004-05-27, 06:58 AM
lol, that's funny.

It must be fun being a liberal sheeple. You can follow and agree with any other liberal, no matter how wrongheaded they are and how much they act like fools while debating.

The fact that you make that generalized blanket comment, coupled with the fact that headrattle and Lex are about as opposite as night and day, lead me to believe your just a troll.

GG :)
There are plenty conservatives much like that. How many Limbaugh fans are in the USA?


no, wait--- must not make it a political debate topic!

Onizuka-GTO
2004-05-27, 08:17 AM
lol, that's funny.

It must be fun being a liberal sheeple. You can follow and agree with any other liberal, no matter how wrongheaded they are and how much they act like fools while debating.

The fact that you make that generalized blanket comment, coupled with the fact that headrattle and Lex are about as opposite as night and day, lead me to believe your just a troll.

GG :)

:rolleyes:

I think i will do the sensible thing and ignore that.
I will let the experts deal with you...

*whistles for Lex and Headrattle*

Here boys! over here! Get him!
:love: ;)

KDLxXxPyRoxXx
2004-05-27, 09:33 AM
Well this is what the election boils down to. Bush is gonna win b/c John Kerry is a little bitch. Anyone who supports gay marriage and all gays living on this earth should rot in hell...and to all u gays out there...ROT IN HELL *******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zodiac
2004-05-27, 10:35 AM
Yes I have a problem. Not enough posters in the Political debate forum. Your point?hmm. Prehaps your other problem (For those missing the obvious, the blinding insanity.) has something to do with the "problem" of there not being enough posters in the POL forum, which you "moderate". While not Navarone's point, it is a good one to consiter none the less.

Hamma
2004-05-27, 10:39 AM
This thread sucks now..

Anyway, I have no real desire to change how it is now.

Navaron
2004-05-27, 11:06 AM
Anyway, I have no real desire to change how it is now.

BAN 'EM ALL HAMMA!!!

Just think of the hilarity that would ensue!!!

213 OMGWTF I GOT BANNED threads. That would be a good time for all.

Dharkbayne
2004-05-27, 12:40 PM
Well this is what the election boils down to. Bush is gonna win b/c John Kerry is a little bitch. Anyone who supports gay marriage and all gays living on this earth should rot in hell...and to all u gays out there...ROT IN HELL *******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rofl:
You are possibly the most ignorant person I have ever seen on these forums.

Red October
2004-05-27, 12:47 PM
:rofl:
You are possibly the most ignorant person I have ever seen on these forums.

martyr
2004-05-27, 12:48 PM
i donated, and i refuse to post in pol. debate.

take that.

Dharkbayne
2004-05-27, 01:02 PM
I have one post in PolDeb, and that's only because the thread I posted in was moved from the lounge TO poldeb.

Triggar
2004-05-27, 01:15 PM
Well this is what the election boils down to. Bush is gonna win b/c John Kerry is a little bitch. Anyone who supports gay marriage and all gays living on this earth should rot in hell...and to all u gays out there...ROT IN HELL *******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow... where do I even begin with that one?? Buddy, if you actually believe what shit is spewing from your ignorant mouth, then:

a) You don't belong on any forum other than "KKK UNITED"
b) Shut your mouth because in the real world, speaking such vile filth will get your scrawny ass beaten to a bloody pulp. Believe it or not, there are a lot of gay men out there who can bench 400lbs and would gladly have your face meet a brick wall.

Hezzy
2004-05-27, 01:19 PM
Wow... where do I even begin with that one?? Buddy, if you actually believe what shit is spewing from your ignorant mouth, then:

a) You don't belong on any forum other than "KKK UNITED"
b) Shut your mouth because in the real world, speaking such vile filth will get your scrawny ass beaten to a bloody pulp. Believe it or not, there are a lot of gay men out there who can bench 400lbs and would gladly have your face meet a brick wall.

Aww! Leave "it" alone Triggar... "it's" only like 7 :rofl:

Triggar
2004-05-27, 01:24 PM
Oh I'm done... but as a certified *** Hag, I couldn't let that go!

SDM
2004-05-27, 01:30 PM
I have one post in PolDeb, and that's only because the thread I posted in was moved from the lounge TO poldeb.
:stupid:

Mr1337Duck
2004-05-27, 01:39 PM
Lex is like Jacque Cartier at pro-american. He's an okay debater, but even after he loses, instead of shutting up and starting the argument again in another thread, he keeps posting. Even if his points are beaten to a pulp, like the minimum wage stuff.

Here's an example of that debate:

Lex: It is an unalienable right to a $6 minimum wage

Duck: No it's not. Wages are decided by the employer, with reference to his potential employee's need to provide for his family.

Lex: But how can he provide with a low minimum wage?

Duck: Those mexicans seem to get by with low wages, it's not a stretch to think an American can, too.

Lex: If they pay people more, they'll have more money, which helps the economy.

Duck: No, their employers start losing money, and eventually the expenses are getting a little too high for his desire. He starts driving up prices so he keeps making a good buck. Then less people come to his store. So he has to drive down his expenses so he doesn't have to have high prices. So he starts laying people off. Now those people, instead of having some money, have no money. And the workers behind are being expected to break their backs to keep work going as well as it was before the layoffs. So it's bad for them. And the factories where you might be buying stuff from are also laying folks off, so they aren't producing stuff as fast as you need it. So you don't even have some goods, a bad situation for most stores. Higher minimum wage is just a bad deal all-around. Some is good to keep employers from screwing everybody over, but too much and it murders your economy.

Lex: They still oughta have minimum wage.

Hezzy
2004-05-27, 02:00 PM
Lex is like Jacque Cartier at pro-american. He's an okay debater, but even after he loses, instead of shutting up and starting the argument again in another thread, he keeps posting. Even if his points are beaten to a pulp, like the minimum wage stuff.

Here's an example of that debate:

Lex: It is an unalienable right to a $6 minimum wage

Duck: No it's not. Wages are decided by the employer, with reference to his potential employee's need to provide for his family.

Lex: But how can he provide with a low minimum wage?

Duck: Those mexicans seem to get by with low wages, it's not a stretch to think an American can, too.

Lex: If they pay people more, they'll have more money, which helps the economy.

Duck: No, their employers start losing money, and eventually the expenses are getting a little too high for his desire. He starts driving up prices so he keeps making a good buck. Then less people come to his store. So he has to drive down his expenses so he doesn't have to have high prices. So he starts laying people off. Now those people, instead of having some money, have no money. And the workers behind are being expected to break their backs to keep work going as well as it was before the layoffs. So it's bad for them. And the factories where you might be buying stuff from are also laying folks off, so they aren't producing stuff as fast as you need it. So you don't even have some goods, a bad situation for most stores. Higher minimum wage is just a bad deal all-around. Some is good to keep employers from screwing everybody over, but too much and it murders your economy.

Lex: They still oughta have minimum wage.

:rofl:

Kaltagesta
2004-05-27, 02:04 PM
I'm willing to bet that it didn't happen exactly like that...

Navaron
2004-05-27, 02:17 PM
That's how it happens in his dreams.

MrVicchio
2004-05-27, 02:29 PM
Actually that is about right. Only Lex rarely uses 20 or less words to say.. anything.

Mr1337Duck
2004-05-27, 03:38 PM
Nav's our resident RINO. Dude, you advocate high minimum wage, weak military, all the stuff the left digs. How are you "The only conservative out there".

Onizuka
2004-05-27, 03:47 PM
:rolleyes:

I think i will do the sensible thing and ignore that.
I will let the experts deal with you...



That's what I didn't do :( :(

Sputty
2004-05-27, 03:48 PM
Nav's our resident RINO. Dude, you advocate high minimum wage, weak military, all the stuff the left digs. How are you "The only conservative out there".
When did Nav advocate "weak military" and all the stuff the "left digs"

This is the same reason why the pol debate forum sucks. It comes down to members trolling and attack anyone who disagrees with them, and a mod who won't do anything to someone who has agreed with him. I'm tired of it, and I'm tired of the forum becoming a support mechanism for Republican(not Conservatives) to pat themselves on the back while attacking anyone with nothing but personal attacks, fueled by the fact that the mod does the same thing.

After reading the posts made by the mod concerning Lex, the other mod, I'm going to say this outright
MrVicchio has no right or reason to be a moderator at PSU, especially something where an unbiased opinion has to come in concerning judgement. He should be removed as a moderator as his comments break all the rules of the debate forums regularly and he isn't even willing to keep things respectful about other mods. He never passes judgement on Republican members who say things such as "stupid ***" but will ban someone for making a personal comment that offends in a PM. He's forgotten a Mod is supposed to do more than protect himself and one side of the forum, but everyone, and I'm sick of it
Fix it or just close the political debate forum because until he's removed it's not debate, it's trolling, with a mod to help them

Navaron
2004-05-27, 04:21 PM
Nav's our resident RINO. Dude, you advocate high minimum wage, weak military, all the stuff the left digs. How are you "The only conservative out there".


I've never said anything like that, but I'll let it slide since apparently you can't read.

As to what sputty said, I'm going to withhold my opinions until someone else posts.

martyr
2004-05-27, 04:35 PM
i'll post.

get this crap outta our nice peaceful non-partisan lounge!

Red October
2004-05-27, 04:36 PM
I think this thread should now be moved to the Political Debate forum.

Hezzy
2004-05-27, 04:40 PM
I think this thread should now be moved to the Political Debate forum.

Agreed. Anything with the word Political in it makes my brain hurt :(

Navaron
2004-05-27, 04:40 PM
If it does get moved now, before the issue sputty brought up is at least addressed, then the problem will never reach resolution.

Ivan
2004-05-27, 06:01 PM
i donated, and i refuse to post in pol. debate.

take that.
Same.

Mr1337Duck
2004-05-27, 06:36 PM
Meanies.



You serious, Nav? I could swear I heard you say you wanted to cut military spending. Musta been someone on another board.

Hamma
2004-05-27, 06:37 PM
Screw moving it, I am closing it.