I need some car audio advice...

[SDM]

I can't decide which of these to go with, they both are about the same price.
I'd appreciate any input you can give...

OPTION 1 - Infinity:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3382/amp1.jpghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6435/sub1.jpg
AMP:
97 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms (CEA-2006 Compliant) (http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/learningcenter/car/cd_glossary.html#cea-2006_compliant)
142 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
283 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms in bridged mode
stereo or bridged mono output
4-ohm stable in bridged mode
variable high-/low-pass filters (32-320 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
variable Bass EQ (0-12 dB @ 50 Hz)
requires 8-gauge power and ground leads � hardware and wiring not included with amplifier
preamp outputs
preamp- and speaker-level inputs
12"W x 2-11/16"H x 11-7/16"D
fuse rating: 30 amps x 1
SPEAKERS:
polypropylene cone
deep-draw I-beam basket
70-ounce magnet structure
recommended power range 50-250 watts RMS
peak power handling 1,000 watts
frequency response 25-400 Hz
sensitivity 88 dB
top mount depth: 5-9/16"
sealed box volume: 0.75 cu. ft.
ported box volume: 1.75 cu. ft.

OPTION 2 - Alpine:
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7981/amp2.jpghttp://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5880/sub2.jpg
AMP:
80 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
110 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
220 watts RMS x 1 in bridged mode
stereo or bridged mono output
Tri-way capable (Tri-Way Crossover (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EfLHMaUxyGN/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=127TM100) required)
requires 10-gauge power and ground leads � wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
Bass Engine� features:

variable 15-400 Hz high-pass/30-400 Hz low-pass crossover, 12 dB/octave
variable Bass EQ (0-12 dB of boost at 50 Hz)

MOSFET power supply
STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference)
speaker- and preamp-level inputs
oversized power and ground connections
gold-plated screw terminals
top-mounted controls with cover
detachable front cover
blue power LED
9-3/4"W x 2-1/2"H x 8-1/4"D
SPEAKERS:
Kevlar�-treated pulp cone
3/4" Santoprene rubber surround
dual oversized Nomex� spiders
frequency response 30-1,000 Hz
power range 50-200 watts RMS
peak power handling 600 watts
sensitivity 87 dB
top-mount depth 5-13/16"
sealed box volume: 0.6-1.25 cubic feet
ported box volume: 1.0-1.75


PLEASE HELP:D Discuss and shit.

[martyr]

that first one - is that made by infinium labs

<snicker>

[SDM]

that first one - is that made by infinium labs

<snicker>
wtfareyoutalkingabout?







I'm guessing the most constuctive post in this thread will be an "I'd hit it" from Dharkbayne.

[martyr]

i don't know a blessed thing about car audio.

i don't own a car.

wanna know about aircraft comm systems?

[UncleDynamite]

I can't give any sort of informed opinion, but I know that my friend chose an Alpine system over a similar Infinity system, and he has no regrets. He says that the Alpine sounds great and hasn't give him a single problem, and from what I've seen and heard, I'd agree.

[OneManArmy]

he's talking about that company thats making some new console/pc thing.....


personally I'd go with the first one.

and on a slightly cheaper note, I just replaced the factory radio/speakers in my new 'bird with...

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2003/130/h130DEHP460_1_LD.jpeg
and these
http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6228/6228762_sa.jpg

[SDM]

and on a slightly cheaper note, I just replaced the factory radio/speakers in my new 'bird with...*pics*
I did the same thing. I got a JVC cd-deck, and 4 pioneer speakers (2 - 6.5" 3ways, and 2 - 4"x10" 2ways). It sounds about 100 times better than the old factory stuff, but I'm missing the low end. I basically have 6 tweeters, and 4 mids. I need some woof. I'm leaning twards the Infinity, but they'd both be perfect for what I'm looking for. The only reason I'm leaning twards the Infinity set is because I think it would look better :).

[Electrofreak]

Not knowin a thing about car audio systems... I'm gonna say the first one... it looks cooler. :p

[RuskiVodka]

I would recommend Digital Amps from Signat with JBL Audio Subs.... But I'll gather some info of the setup I got on my car.

[Asmodeus]

Ok ok, here we go guys.

I personally love infinity. I have a set of 6x9's in my rear deck and was looking at getting a pair of Kappa perfect 12" subs (The deal fell through so I didn't get it.)

When you're shopping for subs/amp combos you need to keep in mind how many subs you'll be running and at what resistance.

Also, if you're going to buy subs, buy them in pairs and get a custom box built to the specifications that your sub was ment to sit in (Right sized box) otherwise you can shread/toast your subs in no-time.

Just looking through crutchfield here and going off my knowledge -

If you want two Infinity Reference 12" subs, you'll want to pair it up with the Infinity Reference 610A amp. : 657 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms (when you split off the sub in parallel, it`ll lower the amp down to 2 ohms and you`ll be running aproximately 330w into each sub. It`s ALWAYS better to have more power running through than less. Makes the amp work less and you get a crisper sound)

The Infinity Reference 12" sub's ratings: recommended power range 50-300 watts RMS
You'll be putting about 330w into each sub, so you're just over it's 'recommended' range... but the peak wattage is 1230w, so you're MORE than safe.


Don't go with the Alpine stuff that you are suggesting. If you are going to get an amp, look for 1 channel, or a monoblock amp. They are built specifically to run subs and nothing else. Also, if you want to pay a little bit of extra money, go up to the Infinity Kappa series subs. Trust me, you wouldn't be disappointed.

If you need help with anything, wiring, etc, send me a pm over at www.dragonwolves.com or here (though I don't frequent here often) or hit me up on yahoo/aim: Asmodeus404

I'd be more than glad to help out a lost car-audio soul.

[SDM]

Ok ok, here we go guys.

I personally love infinity. I have a set of 6x9's in my rear deck and was looking at getting a pair of Kappa perfect 12" subs (The deal fell through so I didn't get it.)

When you're shopping for subs/amp combos you need to keep in mind how many subs you'll be running and at what resistance.

Also, if you're going to buy subs, buy them in pairs and get a custom box built to the specifications that your sub was ment to sit in (Right sized box) otherwise you can shread/toast your subs in no-time.

Just looking through crutchfield here and going off my knowledge -

If you want two Infinity Reference 12" subs, you'll want to pair it up with the Infinity Reference 610A amp. : 657 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms (when you split off the sub in parallel, it`ll lower the amp down to 2 ohms and you`ll be running aproximately 330w into each sub. It`s ALWAYS better to have more power running through than less. Makes the amp work less and you get a crisper sound)

The Infinity Reference 12" sub's ratings: recommended power range 50-300 watts RMS
You'll be putting about 330w into each sub, so you're just over it's 'recommended' range... but the peak wattage is 1230w, so you're MORE than safe.


Don't go with the Alpine stuff that you are suggesting. If you are going to get an amp, look for 1 channel, or a monoblock amp. They are built specifically to run subs and nothing else. Also, if you want to pay a little bit of extra money, go up to the Infinity Kappa series subs. Trust me, you wouldn't be disappointed.

If you need help with anything, wiring, etc, send me a pm over at www.dragonwolves.com (http://www.dragonwolves.com/) or here (though I don't frequent here often) or hit me up on yahoo/aim: Asmodeus404

I'd be more than glad to help out a lost car-audio soul.These are 10"s btw, and after reading a few things (and your post) I'm getting a 1 channel amp. I knew nothing of this crap, but I'm learning:doh: Thx

[Dharkbayne]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3382/amp1.jpghttp://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6435/sub1.jpg
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7981/amp2.jpghttp://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5880/sub2.jpg


http://gphan.com/pics/albums/omghi2u/hititbush_001.jpg

[SDM]

http://gphan.com/pics/albums/omghi2u/hititbush_001.jpg
:clap: ,:rofl: ,:lol: , and :love: .


OK, how about these:
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5525/amp0.jpg

Amplifier Type: Mono
RMS Power: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=rms+power) 200W x 1 @ 4 Ohms
Bridged RMS Power: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=bridged+power) 400W x 1 @ 2 Ohms
THD at Rated RMS Power: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=thd) n/a
Speaker Level Inputs: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=speaker+level+inputs) Yes
Preamp Outputs: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=pre+amp) Yes
Built-In Crossovers: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=crossover) LP
Bass Boost: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=bass+boost) 0-18 dB
Frequency Response: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=frequency+response) 20-200 Hz
Channel Separation: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=channel+separation) n/a
Signal to Noise Ratio: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=signal-to-noise+ratio) 90 dB
Fuse Rating: n/a
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8020/sub0.jpg

Size: 10 inch
Rec. Sealed Box Dims: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=sealed+enclosure) 0.50 - 1.00 cu.ft.
Rec. Ported Box Dims: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=ported+enclosure) 1.00 - 2.00 cu.ft.
Free Air Usage: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=free+air) not recommended
Sensitivity: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=sensitivity) 83 dB
Frequency Response: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=frequency+response) 36-150 Hz
Recommended RMS Power: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=rms+power) 400W
Peak Power Handling: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=peak+power) 800W
Impedance: (http://www.sounddomain.com/glossary/glossary.pl?term=impedance) dual 4 ohms

about $350 with wiring etc.

[Indecisive]

Just anal them both.

[SDM]

I think Hamma should do this to the back of his Focus:



http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3910/FocusConnections.jpg

[Sputty]

All the car audio advice I can give: The whistles go WOOOOOOOO