Paul Johnson beheaded

[Squeeky]

R.I.P. :( :( :(

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/vert.johnson.wife.ap.jpg


(CNN) -- Al Qaeda militants kept a pledge to kill their American hostage, posting three chilling photographs Friday on an Islamist Web site to prove they had beheaded Paul Johnson Jr.

The Lockheed Martin Corp. employee was kidnapped in Riyadh last Saturday. Sources in Riyadh said Johnson's body was found in the eastern part of the city; official statements are expected soon.

U.S. officials confirmed Johnson's death, saying the remains shown on the al Qaeda-linked Web site are "definitely" his. An official said a photograph that shows a severed head sitting on the back of a headless body is "very clear."

Abdel Aziz Al-Muqrin, the self-proclaimed military leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, had threatened Tuesday to kill Johnson in 72 hours unless the Saudi government released al Qaeda prisoners and Westerners left the Arabian Peninsula.

"As we promised, we the mujahedeen from the Falluja Squadron slaughtered the American hostage Paul Johnson after the deadline we gave to the Saudi tyrants," said a statement on the Web site that has been translated from the Arabic.

"So he got his fair share from this life and for him to taste a bit of what the Muslims have been suffering from Apache helicopter attacks. They were tortured by its missiles."

The photographs on the Web site plainly show the face of Johnson, the man seen in videotapes with his captors earlier this week.

Johnson, 49, worked on Apache helicopters in Saudi Arabia and had lived there for more than a decade.

Three suspected militants were shot to death by Saudi security forces later Friday in Riyadh, the Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya television announced.

The FBI stands ready to help Saudi Arabia track down Johnson's killers, a bureau official said Friday.

"We are in close coordination with Saudi Arabia to determine what can be done to assist the Saudi authorities in this case now. But of course it is a sovereign country so it depends on what the Saudi government decides," the official said.

President Bush offered his sympathies to Johnson's family.

"The murder of Paul shows the true nature of the enemy we face," the president said, adding that there was no justification for the killing.

"We must pursue these people and bring them to justice before they hurt other Americans," the president said. "They are trying to get us to retreat. We will not be intimidated."
'Exceeds all boundaries of a civilized people'

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell condemned what he called an "action of barbarism."

"It shows once again what the world is dealing with -- to behead somebody or murder somebody, somebody innocent who was only trying to help," he said. "It will cause us and the Saudis to redouble our efforts to go after the terrorists wherever they are, wherever they hide."

Carol Kalin, the media attach� to the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh, said the embassy and the American community in Saudi Arabia felt "a tremendous sadness at Paul's death."

"It exceeds all boundaries of a civilized people," she said.



"What can I do for him?" said Noom, a native of Thailand. "I want to see him come back to see me. He don't do anything wrong, he nice with the people. I never see him have problem in the 10 year here. Never."

Kalin said the embassy is "strongly urging Americans to depart" Saudi Arabia and urging "those Americans who do choose to remain to exercise the utmost caution."

"It's tough times out here," she said.


Al-Muqrin had claimed responsibility for Johnson's kidnapping and the death of another American, Kenneth Scroggs, on Saturday on behalf of a group called the Falluja Squadron, which claims to have ties to al Qaeda.

A senior U.S. State Department official in Washington told CNN the United States will now act to "batten down the hatch and [not] give them an easy target."

"We want Americans to leave. We want the people that are there to take appropriate precautions," the official said.

The official added that Johnson lived away from the heavily fortified expatriate compounds and "was a sitting duck."

The al Qaeda Web statement also said the killing was "a lesson for them to learn for whoever comes to our country, this will be their punishment."

Muslim friends of Johnson -- including some clerics -- also pleaded for his release. But the militants were not swayed.

Lockheed Martin spokesman Tom Jurkowsky said the company is "dealing with the family."

"All we can say is we're very distressed, very disheartened," Jurkowsky said.

The Web statement addressed those pleas.

"A lot of voices were very loud, expressing their anger for taking a Christian military person as a hostage and killing him while they kept their mouth shut from saying anything supporting those poor Muslims who are in prisons and being tortured by the hands of the cross-believers," the Web site statement said, an apparent reference to the abuse of Iraqis held at Abu Ghraib prison.

[Setari]

not again...but I'm still not really surprised. Sad to hear that. :(

[Mag-Mower]

uhhh... thats sad... really, im serious...

p.s. nice sig squeeky

[Dharkbayne]

Sick fuckers. I hope we kill every last fucking one of them. All of them.

[Khronos]

...godwtf...

[Zodiac]

Sick fuckers. I hope we kill every last fucking one of them.:nod:

[SDM]

Sick fuckers. I hope we kill every last fucking one of them. All of them.
Indeed. Fucking primates.:mad:

[Setari]

i know ways to kill people that would make the Nazis quiver in their boots. I could help get rid of the terrorists but i cant say they will be viewed as once-living material when I'm done.

[ControlledBurn]

I've said it countless times before this one, but I'll say it again: Glass Factories are in high demand.

[Mr1337Duck]

al-Zarqawi and his al-Qa'ida dogs have commited another murder of an innocent. But the UN can never condemn them, the UN can't say "Mr. Bush, it seems you were right about one thing... these guys are bastards, you have our authorization to terminate them with extreme prejudice, Abu Ghraib is forgiven."



I can't believe the liberal scum in this country is comparing making some terrorists pose naked for the camera with Nick Berg and Paul Johnson's violent murders. Those terrorists at Ghraib, in my opinion deserved it, they're scumbags, and they'll get over a little abuse. Sure they have to look devastated at the mosques for a while, but nothing else. I believe in justice for people, I don't believe in documents about human rights in their case. Human rights stuff is for people who don't spend all of their time murdering innocents.

[Mushnator]

All he did was work on Helios, he didn't deserve this crap.

And they say that the US torture controversy is bad. :rolleyes:

[Liquidtide]

Yeah guys, this sucks. And right here in Jersey too. I was hoping they were going to shoot him rather than behead him which I hope does not become a fad overthere. :(

Lots of people hung flags around the State today and one radio station declared this weekend "The Great American Weekend" and they aer asking everyone to hand a flag, have a bbq, and eat apple pie, and maybe play some baseball.

God Bless the USA

~Tide

[Cryptica]

I just read this...and I can't even put into words how it makes me feel. Maybe it's just me but something about reading this story slapped me right across the face with how corrupt this world is as a whole. I...I don't know what to say other than that while I opposed the war in the first place...now, all I want is for every last of those God-forsaken scumbag goat-fucking, camel dick sucking asshats to go and rot in fucking Hell.

[Setari]

I just read this...and I can't even put into words how it makes me feel. Maybe it's just me but something about reading this story slapped me right across the face with how corrupt this world is as a whole. I...I don't know what to say other than that while I opposed the war in the first place...now, all I want is for every last of those God-forsaken scumbag goat-fucking, camel dick sucking asshats to go and rot in fucking Hell.
and you see that's one of the things they want. We should give it to them but really need to be careful about he we do it. Another thing they want is to shock the American public. These guys really could care less about how many heads are taken from where they should be. Now we can't give them what they want as that would...well give them what they want. Of course another problem with the situation is that we are on their turf in their cities, on their streets. That complicates the situation that much more.

[scarpas]

Sick fuckers. I hope we kill every last fucking one of them. All of them.


by all of them do you mean just the terrorists?

[Mr1337Duck]

Helios? What's that?

[Mushnator]

Short for Helicopters.

[Dharkbayne]

We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.

[ControlledBurn]

Short for Helicopters.

Helo, Heli, Chopper, Whirley bird, whirley gig, and so ugly the ground repels it I've heard as nicknames for helicopters, but never Helios.....When I see helios, I think "Sun"

Keep in mind I grew up as the son of a Marine Helo crew chief/maintenance chief, and have been personally involved in the aviation community for the past 5 years, not counting my lifetime obsession with it.

[Mushnator]

It's a combo of Helo and Heli, I heard it somewhere before and just kept saying it sence.

[Setari]

We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.
we win at life.

[RuskiVodka]

I'm surprised they didn't send the boys to find Johnson. Very sad to hear this.

Hard for me to put it in words, but I can only say, he will be a hero among all. (Hope that made sense.)

The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday

5 minutes of fame was all he got lol!! The leader will surely be remembered [/sarcasm] (Err honestly these topics about Terrorism and such, I can't really talk about)

[ControlledBurn]

I'm surprised they didn't send the boys to find Johnson. Very sad to hear this.

Hard for me to put it in words, but I can only say, he will be a hero among all. (Hope that made sense.)



5 minutes of fame was all he got lol!! The leader will surely be remembered [/sarcasm] (Err honestly these topics about Terrorism and such, I can't really talk about)

I very much doubt they did not send the boys to try and find Johnson in time. From what I read, they found the guy as he was trying to dispose of the body. They've not mentioned any units attached to those who found him and his cohorts, so I would venture a guess that they did indeed send a team of some sort out to find him, and we were unfortunately too late.

Edit: Just read the updated CNN article

More than 15,000 Saudi security forces, working with U.S. forces, combed areas believed to be al Qaeda hubs in recent days, searching about 2,000 locations for Johnson and his captors, Al-Jubeir said.

[RuskiVodka]

I very much doubt they did not send the boys to try and find Johnson in time. From what I read, they found the guy as he was trying to dispose of the body. They've not mentioned any units attached to those who found him and his cohorts, so I would venture a guess that they did indeed send a team of some sort out to find him, and we were unfortunately too late.

Since Media manipulates people's thoughts and knowledge of the world. We only see perspectives of what the reporters write. You are right that they have sent a team to do SAR. We don't know cause we rely on Media, but it's a routine that Units from the Military, do searches secretly. (Hope that made sense, sorry on the Vodka dosage ATM.)

EDIT: Read the article as-well oops:

[EarlyDawn]

I've said it countless times before this one, but I'll say it again: Glass Factories are in high demand.Indeed. The time for talk is over. Less negotiation and policy, more making the necessary people dead.

[AztecWarrior]

Indeed. The time for talk is over. Less negotiation and policy, more making the necessary people dead.
Indeed.

[JetRaiden]

We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.

Instead of using real bullets, they should use rubber ones so instead of killing the guy instantly he suffers horribly from the pain of getting rubber in your chest from a 12 gauge. am I a bad person?

[JakeLogan]

Instead of using real bullets, they should use rubber ones so instead of killing the guy instantly he suffers horribly from the pain of getting rubber in your chest from a 12 gauge. am I a bad person?
Then soak him in pig blood and then kill him.

[ControlledBurn]

Then soak him in pig blood and then kill him.
I've never thought about pig's blood, but something similar is something I've always been an advocate of for these fuckers. Killing them only makes me a martyr (Not TangoUniform) however, stuffing their face full of ham, bacon, or other pork products and leaving their body where their friends can see or find it like that might dissuade some of them from continuing in their ways due to their beliefs.

[Dharkbayne]

Someone find that article about the guy who did that.

[JakeLogan]

Someone find that article about the guy who did that.
I know what your talking about guy had 100 extremists doused 99 in pigs blood and killed them let one go didn't have trouble for 40 years. But if we did do that then the U.N. would be bitching. Along with everyone else. "MY GOD THATS SO SICK AND TWISTED". Yeah it may be but it gets the fucking point across pretty damn well.

[ControlledBurn]

My reply to those who bitch: "It's no more sick and twisted than what those animals are doing to non-combatant contractors."

[Darksim]

Thats. Fucking. It.

Why Have We Not Turned Iraq Into A Big Fucking Piece Of Glass? Huh? Huh?
Fucking Insane Arabs.

[SDM]

so ugly the ground repels it
:rofl: truth

[ControlledBurn]

Thats. Fucking. It.

Why Have We Not Turned Iraq Into A Big Fucking Piece Of Glass? Huh? Huh?
Fucking Insane Arabs.

Well
A) This happened in Saudi Arabia, so nuking Iraq isn't going to fix the fuckers who aren't there.
B) Too many people would squak about it I'm sure, despite the fact that it would certainly solve an enormous number of the worlds problems by doing so.

[Cryptica]

I vote for global domination by the US. Well, US and Australia since I think Aussies rock....but them two should own the world.

[Triggar]

Nuclear bombing anyone won't solve anything, as we're hated by enough extremist nations and their allies that we would reap what we've sown, threefold. This isn't 1945 - drop the bomb, end of problem - we've got complications now that we didn't have then. Namely, other countries with nuclear capabilities.

[ZionsFire]

HAH! That is why I have my own nuclear bunker! You guys can come too of course. :)

[JakeLogan]

HAH! That is why I have my own nuclear bunker! You guys can come too of course. :)
Yeah so do I my house has like 40 layers of lead paint. (Hey it worked in the simpsons)

[Dharkbayne]

Yeah so do I my house has like 40 layers of lead paint. (Hey it worked in the simpsons)

Have fun with cancer and brain damage. :D

[Triggar]

Have fun with brain damage. :D

Works for you :groovy:

:love: teh dharkie

[Darksim]

Imagine if we left. There would be a power-struggle instantly and a big civil war would go out on who wants the chair.

[Mushnator]

Have fun with cancer and brain damage. :D

But the chips.... taste so good! :D

[Mr1337Duck]

I tell you, every time the Arabs bitch when we mess up and bomb a civvy target (I'm not talking about the wedding thing, those guys were definite terrorists), I think about 9/11, when they were dancing in the streets, celebrating the deaths of our people. They're orgasmic when 3,000 of our people die, they're dancing in the streets, shooting their AK-47s off, stuff like that, but when a few terrorists get humiliated, they're pissed. What the hell is that?

[Cryptica]

I agree with Mr1337Duck completely. They should all die.

[EarlyDawn]

Nuclear bombing anyone won't solve anything, as we're hated by enough extremist nations and their allies that we would reap what we've sown, threefold. This isn't 1945 - drop the bomb, end of problem - we've got complications now that we didn't have then. Namely, other countries with nuclear capabilities.Which is all the more reason to accelerate work on a global missle defense system. Negate everyone else's long range nuclear arsenal and the world suddenly becomes a much more peaceful place. :)

[Hamma]

I say we ignore the worlds problems and just worry about ourselves.

[TekDragon]

Yeah so do I my house has like 40 layers of lead paint. (Hey it worked in the simpsons)

When we build our place we're putting a few layers of lead paint between the cinder blocks and the brick.

That's not even counting what we do to the bunker out back.

Have fun with cancer and brain damage. :D

Huh? You do realize lead BLOCKS radiation, right?

[TekDragon]

I say we ignore the worlds problems and just worry about ourselves.

:huh:

I hope your joking at being a liberal, Hamma. That's not funny. If we went by that belief we'd all be speaking either german, russian, or japanese by now.

[Hamma]

:boohoo:

I'm just tired of everyone elses bullshit being our bullshit. And it amazes me how quick people catagorize other people, I make one comment and now I am a liberal.

I am not a liberal or a conservative, I simply believe what I want to believe. I don't stick to the views of one party.

[Mushnator]

Pretty much after WWII we going involved because we didn't want another Pearl Harbor.

I guess we got more than we bargained for. :(

[Dharkbayne]

When we build our place we're putting a few layers of lead paint between the cinder blocks and the brick.

That's not even counting what we do to the bunker out back.



Huh? You do realize lead BLOCKS radiation, right?

I'm talking about the lead paint itself.


I hope your joking at being a liberal, Hamma. That's not funny. If we went by that belief we'd all be speaking either german, russian, or japanese by now.

No, because that was our problem. Iraq was not our problem, but we MADE it our problem.

[Mr1337Duck]

ED, we have lasers that can shoot down nukes in mid-air from space. Nuclear missles are not a big problem.

[Dharkbayne]

ED, we have lasers that can shoot down nukes in mid-air from space. Nuclear missles are not a big problem.

If we do, why was bush so worried about Saddam launching a missile at us? How do you know it would work every time? How do you know it even exists?

[Mr1337Duck]

They did a test with Star Wars earlier. They said it failed, but I think it's bullcrap. Think about it. If Joe Dictator decides to fire a nuke at Israel, he's gonna wonder if the nuke can be stopped. If he thinks it can't be stopped, he'll fire the nuke and sit on his arsenal of those, not bothering to develop better stuff. If he knows a nuke will be stopped by a laser, he'll attack some other way, some way we haven't learned to fight against.


And we're not worried about city-destroying nukes being created in the middle east, we're thinking more like suitcase nukes, ones that will destroy everything within 1-4 blocks, not something that could destroy Los Angeles. You don't fire these suitcase nukes, you hide them in a vehicle.

[WritheNC]

I hope they find the people that did this soon and bring swift retribution upon them.

[Dharkbayne]

I hope they find the people that did this soon and bring swift retribution upon them.
Don't any of you read? They already did.

[WritheNC]

Oops. My mind was in space. I really just read the quotes. There's more to find,anyway.

[Mr1337Duck]

Yeah, serves the bastards right.

[ControlledBurn]

If we do, why was bush so worried about Saddam launching a missile at us? How do you know it would work every time? How do you know it even exists?
I don't think Bush was worried about any missile launches so much as a nuke or other wmd being set off in somewhere like Israel, a mid-east forward base for our troops, or said wmd being sold off to some terrorist fundamentalist group and then being smuggled into the US to be used against us.

[Sputty]

Huh? You do realize lead BLOCKS radiation, right?
Do you plan on completely sealing the house or bunker and leaving it sealed for decades?

BTW, please don't turn this thread into something you can use for political debate or gain

[EarlyDawn]

They did a test with Star Wars earlier. They said it failed, but I think it's bullcrap. Think about it. If Joe Dictator decides to fire a nuke at Israel, he's gonna wonder if the nuke can be stopped. If he thinks it can't be stopped, he'll fire the nuke and sit on his arsenal of those, not bothering to develop better stuff. If he knows a nuke will be stopped by a laser, he'll attack some other way, some way we haven't learned to fight against.


And we're not worried about city-destroying nukes being created in the middle east, we're thinking more like suitcase nukes, ones that will destroy everything within 1-4 blocks, not something that could destroy Los Angeles. You don't fire these suitcase nukes, you hide them in a vehicle.
First of all, the Star Wars program as we developed it was ground based and thus ineffective in all published evidence from the trials. Our anti-missle shield technology is now heading towards aircraft-mounted lasers (currently in development) for theatre defense. Satelite would be the most effective for the sake of accuracy and lack of targetting / technical aspects of ground based equipment, but is controversial because many nations, including Russia, have said that if the united states develops satelite based anti-missle weapons, they will begin selling nuclear weapons to any buyers, leading to massive proliferation.

Second, if we truely had a 100% effective, totally secret missle shield in place to shoot down a nuke launched from anywhere in the world, do you not think that this would begin to affect our world policy? The U.S. is working on numerous threat classification programs, like predator and eschalon to catigorize and accumulate information about covert terrorist style threats across the world. Once we had that in place, we would essentially be totally untouchable.

Thus, I do not believe the sucess rate for the Star Wars ground-based missle defense systems were downplayed. Were that the case, I don't think we would have invested millions into airborn anti-missle systems.

[Sputty]

"Star Wars" seems like a waste of money in most ways. It's generally not effective, it may stop some missiles, but the required circumstances(planes being near the launch point for example) mixed with the fact that the weapons are firing at fast missiles as they ascend makes it hard for them to hit. A large amount of nukes would get past easily, and fighters could easily destroy the modified 747

[Squeeky]

I am not a liberal or a conservative, I simply believe what I want to believe. I don't stick to the views of one party.

I think Chris Rock said it best when he said:

"You gotta be one stupid motherfucker if you make up your mind about an issue, before you even hear the fucking issue. I'm not a liberal, i'm not a conservative, i'm a little bit of both."