Devs, lock the servers and level the playing field.

[Sentrosi]

Message to all Devs who read here.

Please, lock the servers down to one empire per server? The population imbalance on certain servers is absolutely intollerable. You are slowly loosing people who are dedicated to certain empires. People who have sworn that this is a great game. Now, their faith is slowly eroding like the empire populations. I cannot and will not post this over on the OFs, as I believe they are a haven for people who cannot understand the game the same way as those of us over here do.

If you cannot do this, please respond as to why this cannot be done. All we need are some answers. Not asking much at all. Feel free to PM me if you wish to take this private.

[Henya]

post on the OF thats where you need to go to get the devs to reply

and fyi i dont think they are considering that at all

[Firefly]

Screw private. Let's get this shit out in the open. Loyal fans have been screaming for months that we want it one empire per server. If you want to empire hop on Markov or Emerald or Werner, buy a damn second account. If you want to play different teams, there's three friggin' servers and three friggin' empires. Do the math. Three minus three equals zero.

I am tired of seeing players log out as one side and come back as another. I am tired of seeing switch-hitters shifting. "Oh no, the Vanu are losing! Better go NC so I can XP-whore myself to death." Come on- this is flat-out ridiculous.

IT IS NOT FUN WHEN YOU LOG IN AND SEE NO BASES AND A SIXTY PERCENT POP FOR ONE EMPIRE.

And get off my nuts, people. The solution is not to join them. I play TR, and TR alone. If you don't, nobody cares- I didn't ask anyone to see it my way.

[FatalLight]

Amen to all above

[Red October]

/signed.


I agree, force people to play one empire on one server. That or find a way that gives more BEP/CEP to defend vs. attack...and make it a large difference, not a marginal one.

[Sentrosi]

Posted on the OF's. Now lets see if the Devs pay attention or not.

[Henya]

Link to thread?

I know im lazy

[GraniteRok]

Agreed.

Find a fix for the pop balance.

Make empire incentives according to global pop not cont pop.

Make fixed permament links from sanc to continents.

[SandTrout]

/sign I already have my NC on emerald :evil:

[EarlyDawn]

I honestly do not believe we should lock the populations. That will simply cement the problem. We need to overbuff the TR in all areas to sway the population over to TR, then when it hits roughly equal, lock it down.

[SandTrout]

He means lock one of the empires(IE: Emerald NC) so that you cant create chracters for that empire any more, but you can still make chracters for the other empires..

[EarlyDawn]

I understand that. But it will still cement the situation in place because everyone will know if they leave NC they can't come back. They need to massively overbuff TR to bring the forth empire over, and then make each server monoempirical again.

[Sieldan]

Yea, the first empire to break whatever pop level, lets say 37% gets lock. No more logins to that empire. Make it a dynamic thing. Not permalock.

[Baneblade]

I wouldn't play PS if I couldn't log into my NC.

I don't care about my TRs...

[Indecisive]

1. Broadcast warpgates are horrible
2. 1 empire per server needs to be re-implemented. If you want to be an empire hopper, you need to *pay* for it.
3. Devs need to fucking LOOK at the tr and realize WHY we are in these situations to begin with.

As stated over on the offical forums, on that huge thread that has gotten no dev attention as of now. Devs need to stop basing the entire game on numbers. Devs need to look what players accually do.

Shit, on top of that, their damn math is screwed up most of the time.


For 13 god damn bucks a month I want to have fun. I dont want to be in the army. I dont want to sit on my ass and do nothing.

The second that the game no longer is fun, is when you start having problems. People switch. Populations become unbalanced. More people switch or leave the game all together.

The devs need to get their shit together, or they are going to be out an empire soon.

[Sentrosi]

They won't be out of an empire, they'll just continue to offer 30 day trials for $10 and bring in newbies to the game. And then they'll tease you into giving you a 10 day "Battle" reactivation.

I think that Spork did say something about them 'looking into the population situation' that might be in store for a patch after 2.8, but not 100% sure on this.

It truly is sad, that this is happening. I have been one of the staunchiest supporters of this game and this community for over a year. To see all that it is right now really leaves a hollow place right now; almost like my best friend cheated on me with my wife.

Some may say, "Hey, switch to NC if you don't like it." Not me. I came in as a Terran Republic soldier. I will leave a Terran Republic soldier. If it comes down to people in my outfit switching empires, that is your decision. It won't matter to me, because I will have officially quit by then and chucked my Planetside CD's into a blender and sent back to SOE.

Just my .02 worth.

[scarpas]

[slight exageration]i do belive that the topic has been posted on the of more than 10 times.[/slight exageration]




PS: great sig

[KIAsan]

Well, first give us real incentives if we are underpopulated (and make these global):

Zero respawn time, no vehicle clock, no max clock.

To heck with the BEP incentives (they just don't work). However, if your empire is at 40% and your zerging an underpopulated empire. Think of how much harder it will be with them insta spawning and popping out as many reavers/maxes as they can.

It may not make things more balanced, but it would sure spread the pain to the overpopluated empire and give the underpopulated defenders a better time.

BTW, TR is not the problem. NC have a pop advantage on Emerald. On Markov, TR have the advantage and it's the NC and VS on the receiving end of things.

[Lartnev]

You know, Ask the Devs is tomorrow, someone submit a question about it :)

[FatalLight]

BTW, TR is not the problem. NC have a pop advantage on Emerald. On Markov, TR have the advantage and it's the NC and VS on the receiving end of things.

[Gigabein]

I say give everyone a choice. Implement the patch, and the next time the player enters the character selection screen throw a warning pop-up that says something like this: "The next character you log in with will become the only empire available to you on this server. Characters from any other empire will be deleted from this server. You may still switch empires by deleting all characters and starting over." That's a bit wordy, but you guys get the idea. Probably gonna lose some customers with this, but it's the only realistic and fair way to do it, and people won't feel like they got ambushed.

Using the population percentage to lock people into an empire is rather communist. You would have to assume EVERYONE is logged in at the same time, and not on a crappy alt. They'd lose more customers doing it this way, imo.

[Sieldan]

Let me preface by saying that I am TR. And only TR. Have been since early beta. Will be until I am no longer in Planetside.

That said, put a 24 hour timer on char sets. I have no problem with others having multiple Empires on one server. I do have a problem with being able to jumpship at the drop of a hat. Last night on Emerald I saw the TR pop plummet from 31%ish to 25% in a matter of 15minutes. Guess what? NC/VS pops rose by almost that amount. A fair amount of TR just quit for the night. I did. I say once you log in on a Empire, you play that empire for the next 24 hours. Give a 5minute grace if you want, but one empire per day.

[EarlyDawn]

I say give everyone a choice. Implement the patch, and the next time the player enters the character selection screen throw a warning pop-up that says something like this: "The next character you log in with will become the only empire available to you on this server. Characters from any other empire will be deleted from this server. You may still switch empires by deleting all characters and starting over." That's a bit wordy, but you guys get the idea. Probably gonna lose some customers with this, but it's the only realistic and fair way to do it, and people won't feel like they got ambushed.

Using the population percentage to lock people into an empire is rather communist. You would have to assume EVERYONE is logged in at the same time, and not on a crappy alt. They'd lose more customers doing it this way, imo.Why not just let everyone keep their characters, just force them to decide on one banner to place them under?

[Rbstr]

Emerald is fucked up.

Markov has a bit of this, but it happens to every empire. TR and VS and NC have just abou the same following. So leave markov alone. Making these changes on emerald is fine.

[Gigabein]

Why not just let everyone keep their characters, just force them to decide on one banner to place them under?

I like this even better. That way no progress is lost.

Emerald is fucked up.

Markov has a bit of this, but it happens to every empire. TR and VS and NC have just abou the same following. So leave markov alone. Making these changes on emerald is fine.

I bet a lot of the empire-hoppers would switch to Markov so they could continue their retardation.

[StrangeFellow]

I bet a lot of the empire-hoppers would switch to Markov so they could continue their retardation.

yeah they would...they would have to put the restraints (sp?) on all of the servers if they decide to put them in at all

[Manitou]

Personally I feel that forcing people to make a decision on the Empire they are locked into won't help the situation - its like putting a small bandaid on a sucking chest wound.

The problem is not the people switching back and forth, that is a symptom of the problem. The problem is that the TR have something that drives people away. Maybe it is the weaker Max armors, the weaker AA, the perceived tank issues, who knows? But my suggestion is they find out why the TR are leaving in droves and deal with that.

[TheN00b]

We be Terran.
We be angry.
We be angry; Devs won't listen. No listen on MAX's; no listen on tanks; no listen on population.
We be Terran, or we leave. We not want our fellows betray.
We want not, a Conglomerate server. We want; equality; equilibrium; balance.
Give us back; old things as were.
'Buff' our MAXes; tanks.
Incentives? Pathetic. We want power.
We have none.
We be angry.

[Gigabein]

We be Terran.
We be angry.
We be angry; Devs won't listen. No listen on MAX's; no listen on tanks; no listen on population.
We be Terran, or we leave. We not want our fellows betray.
We want not, a Conglomerate server. We want; equality; equilibrium; balance.
Give us back; old things as were.
'Buff' our MAXes; tanks.
Incentives? Pathetic. We want power.
We have none.
We be angry.

It's like a retarded pirate's poem.

[Red October]

Ok, I had an idea...it may be lame, but it may work or not...but it just might, just maybe, get someones attention...

GENERAL STRIKE!

With pop balance out of control on said server, why fight it. Just don't play on it all. Refuse to play TR on that server UNTILL the problem gets addressed. But you need to start a PR drive. Post it on every forum (yes that includes the OF) you know of that plays on that server. Get a campaign going. Force the issue. People on the other empire playing won't be happy about it...it may even be boring. And you'll have them mad (at either the devs or TR...but either way the issue hits front and center).

Why do I care? I play on Markov, but pop imbalances aren't a major problem (as far as I can tell). But I don't want that happeing there or to another empire, even if its the NC :lol: Anyway, just another one of my crazy ideas...pay no mind if its too lame.

[Firefly]

Just don't play on it all. Refuse to play TR on that server UNTILL the problem gets addressed
Except that I don't play any other character in any other empire or any character of any empire on any other server.

I have one total character- Firefly, TR, Emerald.

[AztecWarrior]

Agreed. You should have unlimited characters, provided they are all one empire.

[TheN00b]

Except that I don't play any other character in any other empire or any character of any empire on any other server.

I have one total character- Firefly, TR, Emerald.

Exactly. I hate the 4th Empire with all my stony, heartless soul. Curse those Smurf and Barney bastards (though the Barneys aren't as bad (except for Ait'Al)).

[KIAsan]

If they just fixed that timer bit about switching characters. The way it is now, you get one free switch. Then the 12 hour rule kicks in. It should never have been that way. You should get the choice of which empire, but the second you choose that empire, the 12 hour rule is in effect. That would stop the rats from fleeing the sinking ship. Either they stayed and fought, or they could leave the server for 12 hours. No more bandwagoning onto the overpopulated side and making matters worse for those left behind.

I personally don't give a rats rear end if someone wants to switch between empires, thats up to them. I just don't need someone logged in as TR, find out VS has the pop, then switch to VS to assist them at the detriment to TR.

[BUGGER]

As none of you, I like having 2 empires per server (actually wished for all 3, but eh). Course now yall gonna fuck me, well fuck you.

my main character is TR on Markov, since the server merger however I have both TR and NC to choose from. I usually choose TR because, well its the first empire I've choosen and that character in my sig IS the orriginal person I used since day 4 when i finally d/led the first 2 updates (and after more than a year I got only br15 course thats because I have another life, yet not another game that wont act as if I need more ram online). Yet on occassions I choosen NC. However I dont use it at my advantage, if I did it would be at least BR6 right now (as i said, on occassions i used my nc char).

Course every other server I have different empires, with a secondary empire just to even it out. (M=TR/NC, E=VS/TR, W=NC/VS). Yet never had I used one right after another, never had I checked wether the VS is killing the TR or not. I fight loyal, not selfeshly.


Though I do know people would do this even though this is the first time i've even heard of this problem, or even realised what this thread was about. I am sad to say we can do nothing about it. I want my oppertunity to fight a different character on Markov rather than TR for a change of pace and weapons so i odnt have to experience more lag on the other servers (markov is my coastal server). Which is also why i wish for all 3 empires to be choosen.




Now speaking of other characters, I haven't used one of my TR guys for a while so i used him and everyone in my old outfit is DEAD. EVERYONE is gone atleast a year. Its fucking funny! (if you bother, look up ******* on markov on the ps site and click on my outfit)

[KDLxXxPyRoxXx]

I am a TR solider on Markov, and have been since beta. The NC are over powered and over populated. Just the other day the NC almost had both the TR and the VS sent back to sanc. The TR had 2 bases on amerish (both orange alerts) and the VS had one (red alert). This is a fucking issue. If the JH can kill someone in 3 shots, why can't an MCG? And don't tell me because of the goddamn refire rate. Make it ten shots for all I care. It takes roughly 25 rounds to kill someone. The MCG clip is on 100 rounds. JH has 16 rounds and kills ppl in 3 shots. It kills two more people in a clip. And it reloads faster. I feel better now...

[Baneblade]

<rip>

...amn refire rate. Make it ten shots for all I care. It takes roughly 25 rounds to kill someone. The MCG clip is on 100 rounds. JH has 16 rounds and kills ppl in 3 shots. It kills two more people in a clip. And it reloads fas...

</rip>
Maybe it is an aiming problem? I admit I haven't played recently, but I doubt it is that bad...

I mean me, a TR nub, can loot a MCG and do more than that... =/

[Diddy Mao]

Just be like the rest of the Tr and join the NC problem solved :-p

[321]

No I love two empires so I can play my alt TR on Markov keep two empires.

[KDLxXxPyRoxXx]

Any TR who goes over to the NC is an idiot, and a pathetic player. I don't have problems mowing people down with the MCG, its just the JH does it faster.Thats why on the leaderboards, the NC leader almost has double the amount of kills than the TR leader.

[juggalokilla]

There was not a population issue before the server merge, i don't think anyone here can deny that. I agree that once you log as a character you shouldnt be able to switch for a while, like 12 hours or so. If not, go with earlydawns idea of making all characters on one server the same nationality.
A big problem on emerald i've seen recently is as%#ole spies using their alts to ruin any attempts to recover from losing to an enormous enemy population, IE tr26%-VS28%-NC46%. This is an average on emerald. It is hard enough to defend what you have , or more often lately, get out of sanc to drain cause you have nowhere to hack when you lose all your bases when some "cheaters", yeah, i said it, switch to tr from nc just to send tells to their nc buddies where we are draining and loc of our ams's. I've seen this done with vs before also while i was vs smuggling to my people. lovely seeing a vs global of where tr are preparing a raid. makes the game fun right?
I have a vs alt which i chose because they dont have a high pop either. i only use him to deliver mags and lashers to my tr buds anyways, so i dont feel like a traitor, i only fight nc with him. If they dont level pops or stop the spies, i wont be playing too much longer. The spying is whats turning me away most at the moment. Kills all fun of the game. Sorry about the lengthy post, i needed to vent :bang:

[Manitou]

Just be like the rest of the Tr and join the NC problem solved :-pNevah!!! I will wear Black and Red forevah! :D

[Yerster]

why is it all we do its bitch an moan about everything. yes i think it needs to be 1 empire per sever. I my self only have 1 toon VS on Emrild.

...instead of makeing topic after topic on this why not just get the peopel here at PSUor the dervs at SoE topost it as a poll on there site.

1)do youwont severs to be locked down to 1 toon per sever?
2)do you wont it to stay the way it is?

simple yes or no question would get alot more atintion. than all the treeds you put up to bitch in.

[FatalLight]

The spelling burns my eyes >_<

[BUGGER]

Why is going from TR to NC a problem? (I'm assuming its to me cause i started the liking of alternate empires)

Its a change of pace i think. You have to admit, people with jackhammers will loot for MCGs just because they are tired of their god damn weapons.

Going TR to NC makes no difference. Half the people that own Heavy assult just use it so they can get a jackhammer so why complain going from anything to nc is just whimpy.

NC is just as good as TR and VS, dont complain, its a fucking game.

[Kikinchikin]

The one day I logged in during the free week was of course unpleasant, but my situation was the exact contrary to the one being discussed. The TR had I believe 47% of the population and it was an absolute zerg fest. But of course, when the tides did begin to turn, TR went from power house to out house. The population shift was so great that the TR that remained had no chance. It's terrible for the game, and it also undermines the sense of duty and pride in your empire. They should fix this as one of (many) changes. *cough broadcast gates*

[Diddy Mao]

Nevah!!! I will wear Black and Red forevah! :D
Guess I'll have to come play TR >< it just feels weird starting over :-( I have to xp whore :0

[Radaeron]

Hooray for monoempirical serverisation!!!! Wooo :P hehe..

Need 1 empire 1 server again.. we have 3 servers, so if you wanna empire hop, bugger off to somewhere else :D

Locking the populations might be an idea... but what about new players? Would there be more spaces for each empire as theyre brought up to level? (Hypothetical blabla because the devs probably wont do it)

[Cryptica]

I agree with locking the servers to one empire. The only times I ever made a second empire on the same server is when I got bored with being my usual NC grunt and wanted to try a VS infil a couple times. I wouldn't have a problem playing on a different server, only that my pc sucks and the difference between 35 ping on emerald and 155 on Markov is enough to be a big problem, lol. But I'm gettin' a new pc anyways so it doesn't matter.

[Indecisive]

I agree with locking the servers to one empire.