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CookieM
2004-06-23, 05:33 PM
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firecrackerNC
2004-06-23, 05:41 PM
Jesus ******* *****!! Hope those bastards die a long painful death.

Onizuka
2004-06-23, 05:41 PM
No. I hate that site, I hate stuff like that.

Triggar
2004-06-23, 05:43 PM
Wasn't it these forums who said that the Korean people were trying to hack the site to prevent that from being shown?

I have a slightly morbid sense of curiosity, but I like to sleep at night. Therefore I pass on the video.

CookieM
2004-06-23, 05:44 PM
Wasn't it these forums who said that the Korean people were trying to hack the site to prevent that from being shown?

I have a slightly morbid sense of curiosity, but I like to sleep at night. Therefore I pass on the video.

Me too Trig, I refuse to watch it.

Triggar
2004-06-23, 05:46 PM
Why would you post it if you refuse to watch it yourself?

Sputty
2004-06-23, 05:46 PM
Wasn't it these forums who said that the Korean people were trying to hack the site to prevent that from being shown?

I have a slightly morbid sense of curiosity, but I like to sleep at night. Therefore I pass on the video.
OGrish has a thing about it on the site. They're being hacked

CookieM
2004-06-23, 05:47 PM
:tear:

Triggar
2004-06-23, 05:49 PM
On a lighter note...

Cookie, have you got the full video of the guy from your avatar? That guy is such a tool, I have to see his moment of glory again!

1024
2004-06-23, 05:58 PM
there isnt a word for me to use to descirbe how much i want to kill those fuckers.

TekDragon
2004-06-23, 05:58 PM
They will all burn in hell.

I just pray they burn alive too.

Sputty
2004-06-23, 06:03 PM
there isnt a word for me to use to descirbe how much i want to kill those fuckers.

Firefly
2004-06-23, 06:52 PM
Every site that puts this bullshit up there allows more people to listen to these fuckers' messages. Way to promote their agenda.

Mr1337Duck
2004-06-23, 06:59 PM
Those fucks. I swear to god, every one of them needs to die slowly. Fuck Geneva (doesn't apply to terrorists anyway), fuck the UN, fuck the pussier elements of Europe, fuck Michael Moore, fuck John Kerry, fuck all of them, those bastards need the kind of punishment found only in torture.



And I didn't even watch it yet.

Triggar
2004-06-23, 07:00 PM
Those fucks. I swear to god, every one of them needs to die slowly. Fuck Geneva (doesn't apply to terrorists anyway), fuck the UN, fuck the pussier elements of Europe, fuck Michael Moore, fuck John Kerry, fuck all of them, those bastards need the kind of punishment found only in torture.

I'm sensing some pent-up hostility.

Mr1337Duck
2004-06-23, 07:01 PM
Damn right that's hostility. These fucks go out there, killing our civilians, and now a civillian of a friend, and now I'm saying they need to die.

Dharkbayne
2004-06-23, 07:18 PM
Fuck that. I'm not watching it.

Biohazzard56
2004-06-23, 07:27 PM
Ive seen the Nick Berg video, and im not sure if I want to see the other two. I am angry beyond words even though Duck did describe my anger with these monsters. These videos are one of the reasons why ive been in JROTC for the last past year, and why I plan on going into Marine OCS.

:usa:

Hamma
2004-06-23, 07:50 PM
I have removed the video out of respect for those involved. Posting shit like this feeds the terrorists and sites like that should be DDOS'd

living.ghost
2004-06-23, 08:38 PM
I'm sensing some pent-up hostility.

You should be angry, too.

Triggar
2004-06-23, 08:50 PM
There are things that, by being angry, I can change.

Situations like this don't require me to be angry to do what I can to change the way things are in this world.

I can sit here and be pissed and say, "I HOPE THEY ALL DIE!" or I can give money to charitable organizations and people who can directly influence governmental policies that bring our military to these nations in the first place. I can get out and volunteer to educate people on foreign and political affairs and get them to become agents of change in their own right. I can send care packages to the men and women overseas to boost their morale and show my appreciation for them doing the work that I can't do myself.

There isn't any point in having anger if it isn't productive. It isn't enough to sit back and say, "Those sick bastards" if you're simply going to resign yourself to the fact that these things, that's life.

Sputty
2004-06-23, 08:53 PM
/me sets mode: +ghandi *Triggar

Triggar
2004-06-23, 08:54 PM
Shut up.

I hate it when people complain about something they have no intention of changing. I have a life that binds me to where I am right now, I can't do much, but I hate the state of the world today. Rather than feeling frustrated and helpless, I'm doing whatever I can.

Sputty
2004-06-23, 08:59 PM
Shut up.

It was a compliment(Ghandi's good)

Squeeky
2004-06-23, 09:00 PM
:rolleyes:

Triggar
2004-06-23, 09:03 PM
I'm just saying, put your anger to good use!

Everay
2004-06-23, 09:17 PM
he said hes gonna do Marine OCS, i will too as soon as i can, no better way to change that bullshit than that, well, besides going over there and lighting them all up by yourself, or getting into politics, however that will take too long for me.

CookieM
2004-06-23, 09:49 PM
Granted, I don't like sickos who get their jollys by looking this stuff up, posting it shows the brutality these animals are made of.

Biohazzard56
2004-06-23, 10:18 PM
I saw the Nick Berg video, and I dont want to see the other two out of respect. I encourage everyone to do the same.

Indecisive
2004-06-23, 10:18 PM
Anger is good for smashing things.

Heavygain
2004-06-23, 11:20 PM
I watched it, all i have to say is, WTFS!?!?!? IM GONNA FUCKING NUKE THERE FUCKING HOUSES! OR SIG MY RABID MALTESE DOG ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but seriously, I will most likely join the marines when i am of age.

Firefly
2004-06-24, 12:01 AM
but seriously, I will most likely join the marines when i am of age.
I'm sure you'll be a shoe-in with that Rambo syndrome. What do you want on your tombstone?

Everay
2004-06-24, 12:48 AM
Here lies a Big Great Man, or wait, was it, Here lies a Great big man, which was better?

Retroactive
2004-06-24, 01:13 AM
disturbing.
a different video of another beheading though, I will never forget. I almost threw up when I saw it.

Angel_of_Death
2004-06-24, 01:41 AM
I'm sure you'll be a shoe-in with that Rambo syndrome. What do you want on your tombstone?
:lol:

The video wasn't that sickening...it was too hard to actually see anything.

SDM
2004-06-24, 03:22 AM
Someone should make that entire region glow in the fucking dark. Let the end justify the means.

living.ghost
2004-06-24, 04:35 AM
I'll donate to that charity, SDM.

Squeeky
2004-06-24, 06:13 AM
:doh:

Kaltagesta
2004-06-24, 06:14 AM
What the fuck are you laughing at.

Uh, the person he was quoting, maybe?

Squeeky
2004-06-24, 06:33 AM
Oh shit, i totally misread that. I thought he quoted the original poster, and was laughing at the beheading. My bad :doh: :doh:

Sputty
2004-06-24, 08:45 AM
I'm sure you'll be a shoe-in with that Rambo syndrome. What do you want on your tombstone?
Pepperoni and Cheese

Jennyboo
2004-06-24, 08:50 AM
Cookie i dunno why you would post that shit in here no one wants to see it ..I know that dosent get me off ...if it gets you off umm :rolleyes: ok :rolleyes:

Maxminus
2004-06-24, 01:31 PM
Well folks having been there for the last 9 months all I can say is that we are going about this the wrong way. They don't adhere to our accepted rules so why the F**K are we still using them? I mean come on ....the way to stop these bastards is to do this:

Since they believe that because they are in a "holy" war and if they died they got to heaven, but only if they are "pure" (they go through a cleansing ritual before going on an operation) here's what we do...shoot the F**KS with bullets dipped in pig fat. Collect the remains and bury them in a pigskin sack in an undisclosed location so the family cannot retrieve the body. According to their own rules they would not get into heaven because their bodies were un-pure (pig fat and leather) and their family couldn't purify them because the body is hidden. That would be a hard choice to make for any religious zealot...kill a few people and face eternal damnation....or learn to live in a world where everyone doesn't need to think and act the same....sorry F**KING bastards....

firecrackerNC
2004-06-24, 03:19 PM
i like the nuking idea........First get all innocent people out,like tell the terrorists were gonna let em have there country but anyone who wants to be free can come with us,then after we got alot of civvies outta there nuke the damn place to obilvion and then deny everything and say the terrorists blew themselves up.

Firefly
2004-06-24, 08:06 PM
And this is why none of you should ever lead troops or be involved in policy-making, let alone politics.

Stooping to their level makes us as bad as them. We already have a credibility problem with the rest of the world. Fighting like them will only ensure we become the next global invasion target.

Get a clue.

Everay
2004-06-24, 11:03 PM
come on Fire, i realise that you can not go around nuking countries (though why have nukes if your never gonna use em? i know i know, deterents), however its just how some of us feel, very angry.

Setari
2004-06-24, 11:21 PM
This is one of the reasons I'd like to join the Army. Of course I have many other reasons as well but this really has to be stopped. We need either tighter security on our people or better yet, pull em out.

Firefly
2004-06-24, 11:27 PM
I'm not talking about the nukes, that's way too low in the shallow end of the common sense wading pool. I'm talking about the Abu Ghraib wanna-be who thinks we should engage in Swamp Fox routines against our enemies. Lowering your standards is not the answer. It only makes you look like a horrible piece of shit in the eyes of the foreign community.

And while some overly-zealous patriots are all for isolationism and "Fuck the rest of the world!" attitudes, it's rooted in ignorance, stupidity, lack of education beyond your GED or 12th grade ticket, and it shows a complete lack of exposure to the rest of the world. Contrary to popular belief, the USA is a country on Planet Earth and thus Earth does not revolve around America. And that cavalier cowboy attitude about butchering Muslims and burying them in leather sacks with pig crud all over them is a sickening, disgusting display of the very arrogance that's earned us the blackened reputation that we have now.

CookieM
2004-06-24, 11:56 PM
..I know that dosent get me off... ok :rolleyes:

Then don't watch it.

Angel_of_Death
2004-06-24, 11:59 PM
I'm not talking about the nukes, that's way too low in the shallow end of the common sense wading pool. I'm talking about the Abu Ghraib wanna-be who thinks we should engage in Swamp Fox routines against our enemies. Lowering your standards is not the answer. It only makes you look like a horrible piece of shit in the eyes of the foreign community.

And while some overly-zealous patriots are all for isolationism and "Fuck the rest of the world!" attitudes, it's rooted in ignorance, stupidity, lack of education beyond your GED or 12th grade ticket, and it shows a complete lack of exposure to the rest of the world. Contrary to popular belief, the USA is a country on Planet Earth and thus Earth does not revolve around America. And that cavalier cowboy attitude about butchering Muslims and burying them in leather sacks with pig crud all over them is a sickening, disgusting display of the very arrogance that's earned us the blackened reputation that we have now.
Very well put Fire. Been trying to find the words to say that.

That is all.

Everay
2004-06-25, 01:24 AM
you know firefly, your right, very much so, but its just some people get angry, they say those things, but i dont think any of us would do em, i hope not at least, ive said, or thought some of those same things, but i honestly hope i wouldnt do it. just pisses me off.

SDM
2004-06-25, 05:50 AM
I'm not talking about the nukes, that's way too low in the shallow end of the common sense wading pool. I'm talking about the Abu Ghraib wanna-be who thinks we should engage in Swamp Fox routines against our enemies. Lowering your standards is not the answer. It only makes you look like a horrible piece of shit in the eyes of the foreign community.

And while some overly-zealous patriots are all for isolationism and "Fuck the rest of the world!" attitudes, it's rooted in ignorance, stupidity, lack of education beyond your GED or 12th grade ticket, and it shows a complete lack of exposure to the rest of the world. Contrary to popular belief, the USA is a country on Planet Earth and thus Earth does not revolve around America. And that cavalier cowboy attitude about butchering Muslims and burying them in leather sacks with pig crud all over them is a sickening, disgusting display of the very arrogance that's earned us the blackened reputation that we have now.
Don't dis my zealous message board politics Captain PC!

/me buries your dad in pig crud, and nukes yer MOM ndabutt.

Jennyboo
2004-06-25, 08:55 AM
Then don't watch it.
I dident watch it .. I just know those things arent something that should posted on the PSU forums.Period end of story

Squeeky
2004-06-25, 09:20 AM
I dident watch it .. I just know those things arent something that should posted on the PSU forums.Period end of story

She speaks the truth.

Gigabein
2004-06-25, 01:29 PM
And that cavalier cowboy attitude about butchering Muslims and burying them in leather sacks with pig crud all over them is a sickening, disgusting display of the very arrogance that's earned us the blackened reputation that we have now.

The "pig fat bullets" is a reference to a purported story about General "Black Jack" Pershing, in which he executed terrorists in the Phillipines. The General did this to stop a spree of Islamic terrorism. According to Snopes, the veracity of the story is undetermined.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm

Triggar
2004-06-25, 02:45 PM
DIPLOMACY NOW!

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

Firefly
2004-06-25, 05:30 PM
Don't dis my zealous message board politics Captain PC!

/me buries your dad in pig crud, and nukes yer MOM ndabutt.
My father would kill you before you got within a hundred feet, and my mom would probably turn you into a prison bitch and sodomize you with a cinderblock. You've got no chance at either. As far as me and PC goes, I'm the least PC person. The problem with society in general, as well as flagrant stupidity infested in idiots, is that "PC" becomes a crutch for those who lack simple common sense and intelligence. There's a difference between being a sensitive chump and someone who is aware of life outside his or her shallow, narrow-minded elitist existence.

The "pig fat bullets" is a reference to a purported story about General "Black Jack" Pershing, in which he executed terrorists in the Phillipines. The General did this to stop a spree of Islamic terrorism. According to Snopes, the veracity of the story is undetermined.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm
And those were different, more brutal times. We don't run around throwing Christians in lion's dens, and we don't execute and murder **** because they're not like us. There's this thing called Law of Warfare, Rules of Engagement, and proper conduct on the battlefield. Such things are what keeps us somewhat on the right side, and allows the civilized world to feel hatred for people who do engage in this sort of activity.

SDM
2004-06-25, 07:31 PM
my mom would probably turn you into a prison bitch and sodomize you with a cinderblock.

pfft. thats been done.

btw, my dad could beat up your dad.

Jennyboo
2004-06-25, 07:36 PM
pfft. thats been done.

btw, my dad could beat up your dad.
:lol: :rofl:

Ya well Hamma could beat up your dad :lol: jk :P~

Firefly
2004-06-25, 07:40 PM
btw, my dad could beat up your dad.
If you say so

Ivan
2004-06-25, 11:53 PM
Well my grandmother's sexier than your grandmother!

SDM
2004-06-25, 11:54 PM
Well my grandmother's sexier than your grandmother!
Yeah. She is. :brow:

Triggar
2004-06-26, 09:23 AM
Yeah. She is. :brow:

What's funny is, this thread started out serious and well-intentioned enough....

Onizuka-GTO
2004-06-26, 10:03 AM
I'm not talking about the nukes, that's way too low in the shallow end of the common sense wading pool. I'm talking about the Abu Ghraib wanna-be who thinks we should engage in Swamp Fox routines against our enemies. Lowering your standards is not the answer. It only makes you look like a horrible piece of shit in the eyes of the foreign community.

And while some overly-zealous patriots are all for isolationism and "Fuck the rest of the world!" attitudes, it's rooted in ignorance, stupidity, lack of education beyond your GED or 12th grade ticket, and it shows a complete lack of exposure to the rest of the world. Contrary to popular belief, the USA is a country on Planet Earth and thus Earth does not revolve around America. And that cavalier cowboy attitude about butchering Muslims and burying them in leather sacks with pig crud all over them is a sickening, disgusting display of the very arrogance that's earned us the blackened reputation that we have now.

Ah, Firefly is back again, and in style.

Always a pleasure when i see Firefly post some of his best stuff, and always give me hope that eventually the USA still has some hope to salvage its international reputation and respect with the rest of the world.

As for the "Pig-Fat Bullets" it did not originate in the philipine by some US general. It actually originated during 1650-1750 in India. When the British attempted to form the first British Sopoy Indian Army in serivce of the East Indian Company to protect the trade roots and to "persude" the natives in certain Indian states to co-operate. At that time there was already a small but growing Anti-British attitude, and the first Indians to join were actually Muslims not Hindus. Back then they still used Muskets, where you had bite the ends of smalle messured powder capsules, pour it down the barrel, and put the paper wad and lead musket ball before ramming it down. Unfortunately a rumour had spread to the Muslim troops said that the Waxy coating used to keep the paper powder waterproof was made from pig fat. They refused to follow orders until rectified. The British overseas brought court-marshall them, they refused and went on a riot, until the British changed the cartilges wax-coating for a substitute.

So there you have a little peice of useless history... :rolleyes:
I hope you all didn't fall sleep..... :lol:

Cryptica
2004-06-26, 10:44 AM
Well as much as it makes me upset and nauseous (sp?) to hear of all the cruel things done to both our troops and the Iraqi/Terrorists/Al Quadi(sp?)/et al I still firmly believe that no matter what happens going to war is never the best option. People who claim that we're justified going to war because we were attacked on 9/11 are only feeling how they wanted us to feel. Of course it's all right to be angry, frustrated, sad, pissed, whatever. But the point is that you'll never solve world conflict by creating more conflict! By going to war, over 500 more americans have died already, plus countless people (yes, they ARE people too, not just the enemy) from Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and anywhere else. Did those deaths bring the victims of the trade center attack back? Are they somewhere up in heaven saying "Oh good. We've killed enough terrorists now I can actually go live with God"? Of course not, the only people we're serving by going through all this is our own selves, our own pride. It's a wasted effort, because no matter how much we obliterate the opposition, we'll always face more of it at the end.

Go ahead, bash me, call me stupid or unpatriotic. The fact of the matter is that I don't believe the best way about this is through more violence. But I guess that's just my opinion.

Everay
2004-06-26, 11:04 AM
you are stupid... :p

we should never go to war, nope, not even when we take out a dictator whos killed countless people, including his own civilians, and civilans from Iran too, yes, those iranian bastards are people too!

conflict ends conflict, but use with caution.

Triggar
2004-06-26, 11:11 AM
Conflict most certainly does not end conflict. Think about this:

Sure, we went into Iraq and got rid of their horrible dictator. Sure, we bombed Afghanistan to try and kill the terrorists, and we bombed the hell out of Iraq to eradicate those threats. But in the meantime, we're killing innocent people - the fathers and brothers of more innocent people. What does this say? This tells those families that Americans are blood-thirsty terrorists who kill innocent people. Does this sound familiar? Then what happens? They vow revenge on America.

It's a vicious circle. Scoff all you want at diplomacy, but diplomatic people are the only ones who are rational enough to end conflict peacefully.

Glaynor
2004-06-26, 11:17 AM
It's a vicious circle. Scoff all you want at diplomacy, but diplomatic people are the only ones who are rational enough to end conflict peacefully.


Diplomacy only works with rational people. Muslim terrorist fanatics can not be reasoned with. That would absolutely fail horribly. They do not want peace - they want to erradicate us. They do not want to stop our military - they want to stop our way of life.

Everay
2004-06-26, 11:26 AM
conflict ends conflict, but use with caution.


the caution being is that it is not always the right action, however i have to agree with glaynor, its like the israel thing, they almost had peace about a year ago, a cease fire and talks about what to do with the occupyed lands, but what happened? palestinian partisans blew up a bus, israel struck back, and it started over again.

but im not saying blow up all palestinans, im just saying, its hard to reason with em.

Hamma
2004-06-26, 11:28 AM
This thread really sucks. :p