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Squeeky
2004-06-28, 02:58 PM
Iraq Combat - What It's
Really Like Over There
By Joseph L. Galloway
Knight Ridder Newspapers
6-28-4


WASHINGTON - The Internet, which fills our inboxes with spam and scams every day and keeps our delete keys shiny, occasionally delivers a real keeper, such as the words below, which were written by a graduate of West Point, Class of 2003, who's now at war in Iraq.

We tracked down the author, who gave us permission to quote from his letter so long as we didn't reveal his name.

Old soldiers in the Civil War coined a phrase for green troops who survived their first taste of battle: "He has seen the elephant." This Army lieutenant sums up the combat experience better than many a grizzled veteran:

"Well, I'm here in Iraq, and I've seen it, and done it. I've seen everything you've ever seen in a war movie. I've seen cowardice; I've seen heroism; I've seen fear; and I've seen relief. I've seen blood and brains all over the back of a vehicle, and I've seen men bleed to death surrounded by their comrades. I've seen people throw up when it's all over, and I've seen the same shell-shocked look in 35-year-old experienced sergeants as in 19-year-old privates.

"I've heard the screams - `Medic! Medic!' I've hauled dead civilians out of cars, and I've looked down at my hands and seen them covered in blood after putting some poor Iraqi civilian in the wrong place at the wrong time into a helicopter. I've seen kids with gunshot wounds, and I've seen kids who've tried to kill me.

"I've seen men tell lies to save lives: `What happened to Sergeant A.?' The reply: `C'mon man, he's all right - he's wondering if you'll be OK - he said y'all will have a beer together when you get to Germany.' SFC A. was lying 15 feet away on the other side of the bunker with two medics over him desperately trying to get either a pulse or a breath. The man who asked after SFC A. was himself bleeding from two gut wounds and rasping as he tried to talk with a collapsed lung. One of them made it; one did not.

"I've run for cover as fast as I've ever run - I'll hear the bass percussion thump of mortar rounds and rockets exploding as long as I live. I've heard the shrapnel as it shredded through the trailers my men live in and over my head. I've stood, gasping for breath, as I helped drag into a bunker a man so pale and badly bloodied I didn't even recognize him as a soldier I've known for months. I've run across open ground to find my soldiers and make sure I had everyone.

"I've raided houses, and shot off locks, and broken in windows. I've grabbed prisoners, and guarded them. I've looked into the faces of men who would have killed me if I'd driven past their IED (improvised explosive device) an hour later. I've looked at men who've killed two people I knew, and saw fear.

"I've seen that, sadly, that men who try to kill other men aren't monsters, and most of them aren't even brave - they aren't defiant to the last - they're ordinary people. Men are men, and that's it. I've prayed for a man to make a move toward the wire, so I could flip my weapon off safe and put two rounds in his chest - if I could beat my platoon sergeant's shotgun to the punch. I've been wanted dead, and I've wanted to kill.

"I've sworn at the radio when I heard one of my classmate's platoon sergeants call over the radio: `Contact! Contact! IED, small arms, mortars! One KIA, three WIA!' Then a burst of staccato gunfire and a frantic cry: `Red 1, where are you? Where are you?' as we raced to the scene ... knowing full well we were too late for at least one of our comrades.

"I've seen a man without the back of his head and still done what I've been trained to do - `medic!' I've cleaned up blood and brains so my soldiers wouldn't see it - taken pictures to document the scene, like I'm in some sort of bizarre cop show on TV.

"I've heard gunfire and hit the ground, heard it and closed my Humvee door, and heard it and just looked and figured it was too far off to worry about. I've seen men stacked up outside a house, ready to enter - some as scared as they could be, and some as calm as if they were picking up lunch from McDonald's. I've laughed at dead men, and watched a sergeant on the ground, laughing so hard he was crying, because my boots were stuck in a muddy field, all the while an Iraqi corpse was not five feet from him.

"I've heard men worry about civilians, and I've heard men shrug and sum up their viewpoint in two words - `F--- 'em.' I've seen people shoot when they shouldn't have, and I've seen my soldiers take an extra second or two, think about it, and spare somebody's life.

"I've bought drinks from Iraqis while new units watched in wonder from their trucks, pointing weapons in every direction, including the Iraqis my men were buying a Pepsi from. I've patrolled roads for eight hours at a time that combat support units spend days preparing to travel 10 miles on. I've laughed as other units sit terrified in traffic, fingers nervously on triggers, while my soldiers and I deftly whip around, drive on the wrong side of the road, and wave to Iraqis as we pass. I can recognize a Sadiqqi (Arabic for friend) from a Haji (Arabic word for someone who has made the pilgrimage to Mecca, but our word for a bad guy); I know who to point my weapons at, and who to let pass.

"I've come in from my third 18-hour patrol in as many days with a full beard and stared at a major in a pressed uniform who hasn't left the wire since we've been here, daring him to tell me to shave. He looked at me, looked at the dust and sweat and dirt on my uniform, and went back to typing at his computer.

"I've stood with my men in the mess hall, surrounded by people whose idea of a bad day in Iraq is a six-hour shift manning a radio, and watched them give us a wide berth as we swagger in, dirty, smelly, tired, but sure in our knowledge that we pull the triggers, and we do what the Army does, and they, with their clean uniforms and weapons that have never fired, support us.

"I've given a kid water and Gatorade and made a friend for life. I've let them look through my sunglasses - no one wears them in this country but us - and watched them pretend to be an American soldier - a swaggering invincible machine, secure behind his sunglasses, only because the Iraqis can't see the fear in his eyes.

"I've said it a thousand times - `God, I hate this country.' I've heard it a million times more - `This place sucks.' In quieter moments, I've heard more profound things: `Sir, this is a thousand times worse than I ever thought it would be.' Or, `My wife and Sgt. B's wife were good friends - I hope she's taking it well.'

"They say they're scared, and say they won't do this or that, but when it comes time to do it they can't let their buddies down, can't let their friends go outside the wire without them, because they know it isn't right for the team to go into the ballgame at any less than 100 percent.

"That's combat, I guess, and there's no way you can be ready for it. It just is what it is, and everybody's experience is different. Just thought you might want to know what it's really like."

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About The Writer -

Joseph L. Galloway is the senior military correspondent for Knight Ridder Newspapers and co-author of the national best-seller "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young." Readers may write to him at: Knight Ridder Washington Bureau, 700 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045.

� 2004 KR Washington Bureau and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
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OfaLoaf
2004-06-28, 03:00 PM
:usa:

Fragmatic
2004-06-28, 03:02 PM
Woah...

jsloan31
2004-06-28, 03:04 PM
:usa:

Very nice find.

Infernus
2004-06-28, 03:13 PM
Wow... just wow...

Dharkbayne
2004-06-28, 03:13 PM
Wow.

:usa:

Setari
2004-06-28, 03:20 PM
One of the best things I've ever read.

Fragmatic
2004-06-28, 03:21 PM
Don't forget we had limeys there!

http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Fragmatic/1.jpg

Infernus
2004-06-28, 03:27 PM
Fragums check forum PMs... :)

TheN00b
2004-06-28, 04:30 PM
:usa:

Fragmatic
2004-06-28, 04:35 PM
Can we get a waving union jack or a waving UN/nato flag or something?

I feel left out :(

Infernus
2004-06-28, 04:36 PM
Can we get a waving union jack or a waving UN/nato flag or something?

I feel left out :(

No, but I will say your boys have been doing jolly good work over there... Cherio!

OfaLoaf
2004-06-28, 05:47 PM
Can we get a waving union jack or a waving UN/nato flag or something?

I feel left out :(
http://www.dreamingfish.co.uk/images/WavingFlag.gif

Fragmatic
2004-06-28, 05:50 PM
http://www.dreamingfish.co.uk/images/WavingFlag.gif

Erm... as far as I know, the union jack doesn't have surfboards... :huh:

:rofl:

OfaLoaf
2004-06-28, 05:51 PM
Only one I found I google. shush.

Fragmatic
2004-06-28, 05:52 PM
Only one I found I google. shush.

Ok then :D

http://www.dreamingfish.co.uk/images/WavingFlag.gif

Biohazzard56
2004-06-28, 05:59 PM
Great Read. Ive talked to several veterans of both Gulf Wars, 5 Devil Dogs just got back from their Tour of Duty in Iraq and I play planetside with them regulary. A personal friend of mine, and one of my sisters friends whos husband just came back from Iraq and did some tileing for our kitchen floor and they have all said similar things. They have all said good and bad things about the War but they all generally agree that it is a good thing and that if they go back they hope to bring out something good as much as they can with all the bad that is going on right now. All, I can say is thank god we have such curageous men and women fighting for our freedoms whether you agree with the war or not. I even know a few guys in a Battalion from the 101st that are transferring to an active division because they are that passionate. I even get angry when I hear of all the assinations and bombings, and beheadings that even before the war broke out I joined ROTC and Im planning to go into Marine OCS and personally bring hell up those people like Abu Al Zawahari.

:usa:

QuakCow
2004-06-28, 06:07 PM
:usa:

(we need a saluting smiley)

Ivan
2004-06-28, 06:10 PM
Erm... as far as I know, the union jack doesn't have surfboards... :huh:

:rofl:
:rofl: :lol:

Mr1337Duck
2004-06-28, 06:20 PM
If you're planning on joining the service, it's good to read that. I'm thinking more and more about the Army.

Indecisive
2004-06-28, 06:42 PM
http://forums.bohicagaming.com/html/emoticons/usaflag.gif

Angel_of_Death
2004-06-28, 07:28 PM
Awesome read. I would seriously be thinking about joining the army, if I didn't live in Canada. It's just to inactive unless you're a Peacekeeper up here.

Biohazzard56
2004-06-28, 09:01 PM
Awesome read. I would seriously be thinking about joining the army, if I didn't live in Canada. It's just to inactive unless you're a Peacekeeper up here.

Yea those two american army deserts are the closest thing Canada has to an active military.

Firefly
2004-06-29, 07:01 PM
Yea those two american army deserts are the closest thing Canada has to an active military.
That's uncalled for. You know absolutely nothing. I've served with Canadian Army guys, and they're about the best bunch of bad-asses to have at any given time.

As far as this article goes, all I have to say is...

HOOAH!

Heavygain
2004-06-30, 12:56 AM
:usa: