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TGF NightHawk
2003-02-06, 01:41 AM
Cert Calculator?
I wonder how accurate this is?
http://www.uea.ac.uk/~y0210188/PSskillcalc.html

TheGreatCarbini
2003-02-06, 01:47 AM
Ya i saw that on the official NC boards, i dunno the acuracy but i figure if u take out 2 of your points you could get a safe estimate on what you can become.

Madfish
2003-02-06, 01:59 AM
That things totally made up! Whats with all those Medium armour classes? And there's no max... nah it's just someone mucking around; we don't have any information on costs or indeed a COMPLETE certificate list. Even though its late in the day now, these things will still change, even during inclusive beta.

Unknown
2003-02-06, 02:01 AM
Actually it's not very accurate at all. Most of it is just assumptions and deductions. Some of it is based on fact but even that can be changed with beta. The devs aren't releasing very many hard numbers right now because they are constantly in flux and they don't want misinformation out there. As an example, when SmokeJumper first released information about the towers, he said there'd be 30 per continent. A couple days later he revised that to 15 because 30 'was too many'. But I do have faith that as more information is released that calculater will keep up. So by release I'd be willing to bet that it will be accurate, but right now there's just not enough information.

TheGreatCarbini
2003-02-06, 02:02 AM
heh

MAX armor: 22 points

suckers...

Unknown
2003-02-06, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Madfish
That things totally made up! Whats with all those Medium armour classes? And there's no max... nah it's just someone mucking around; we don't have any information on costs or indeed a COMPLETE certificate list. Even though its late in the day now, these things will still change, even during inclusive beta.
No, it's not totally made up. It's actually very well informed and laid out. The numbers themselves may not be accurate but the tree looks like it's probably close to what it will be like. It also appears he's got most of the certifications listed pretty accurately based on current information. Alot of effort went into that, don't go dismissing it out of hand, but don't take it as gospel either as it is just based on current information (which is in constantly in flux) and assumptions.

Madfish
2003-02-06, 06:08 AM
I apologies for my comments earlier; I was half asleep! This calculator does look good - it's clear alot of works been done.

I didn't think the devs have said what dependencies there will be for certs?

Hamma
2003-02-06, 08:13 AM
I saw this thing the other day, its definatly a good guesstimate. Fun to mess around with ;)

archaic1128
2003-02-06, 10:04 AM
i was messing around w/ that as well. I was also wondering how accurate it was? It makes me wonder why the Max is under agile?

Airlift
2003-02-06, 10:19 AM
All armor is under Agile, right?

Yogi
2003-02-06, 11:29 AM
That's slick.

I remember using the character generator for DAoC a long time ago.

That was before I realized the game was bland and boring.

LesserShade
2003-02-06, 11:48 AM
^yes. the calculator's were pretty useful

txMaddog
2003-02-06, 12:00 PM
Good job! I like it!

Hopefully the maker will keep it updated as new info comes available. I think the basic structure is there and it kinda make sense (1 cert for your basic stuff, 2 for next level and 3 certs for the air vehicles).

I also used the DAoC char builder, when using the char builder got to be more fun than the game, I quit DAoC. :D

Yogi
2003-02-06, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by txMaddog

I also used the DAoC char builder, when using the char builder got to be more fun than the game, I quit DAoC. :D

rofl, yeah. I spent more time trying to calculate my Eldritch than actually playing him.

LesserShade
2003-02-06, 12:07 PM
I got suckered into buying shrouded isles.. i spent all my time after that with the char calc creating a half dozen new characters that never made it past lvl 11 :P

archaic1128
2003-02-06, 12:10 PM
Airlift,
All armor is under Agile, right?

I see i didn't phrase that right. What i mean is do we need to have Agile to get Max ,or is it possible to go from having Standard, to Reinforced to Max? Is Agile going to be required ?

SKAHT
2003-02-06, 12:48 PM
I read on the site that Agile is a pre-req for all other types of Armor, check the Armor section, I think thats where I read it. I don't think it's a bad thing. If you commit to being a MAX operator than your role in combat is going to be fairly restricted. You'll be the support guy for every unit you work with. But having a cert for agile armor opens up some "grunt" work if you were in the mood for it.

Hamma
2003-02-06, 12:50 PM
Yea that info was mentioned fairly recently by dave.

Kyonye
2003-02-06, 10:23 PM
Damn skill calculator won't freaking work on my computer. it just doesn't make any sense. it works in school but not at home, nor on my friends computer. WTF!!

Toimu
2003-02-06, 10:39 PM
The link was broken when I just tried it. Is it a web page thing, or something you download?

Kyonye
2003-02-06, 10:43 PM
its no something you download. like i said, it worked at my school's computer lab but not at me house nor friends house.

Toimu
2003-02-07, 06:13 PM
You cannot unclick Standard Armor or Standard Weapon. I hope you can trade in your Standard Weapon & Armor cert, if I have Agile Armor, I would never use Standard Armor. Wasting a cert like that would suck. But if we can trade in Standard Armor cert, can we then go without any armor? I don't think we can, because we haven't seen a no armor pic yet.

If this is so, at Level 20, you will always have 1 cert point left over by this calculator.

Unknown
2003-02-07, 06:53 PM
Standard armor and Standard Weapon are free certs, you don't actually buy them, they are permanent. You also start with 2 cert points to spend as you see fit. So no trading in standard, but no buying em either.

Toimu
2003-02-08, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by Unknown
Standard armor and Standard Weapon are free certs, you don't actually buy them, they are permanent. You also start with 2 cert points to spend as you see fit. So no trading in standard, but no buying em either. I thought the 2 free cert points was from VR training.

Unknown
2003-02-08, 02:52 AM
Nope, you can get up to level 5 (4 more cert points) before leaving VR. You start with 2 certs on level one and get one cert per level gained after that (hence: 21 certs at level 20). So if you didnt spend any certs to start with and went through the entire training and levelled up to 5, then you'd have 6 certs to spend as you see fit, and standard armor/weapons on top of that.

Duritz
2003-02-08, 06:14 PM
Not quite, they haven't said that those two certs arent the ones you start off with, and you'd have 6 cert POINTS. Big difference because certs cost 2 or 3 points. so you cound have 3 certs in whatever you want if 1st two are free and only 2 in what you want if those certs are the standard certs.