President Bush suggests posibility of alien life

[Revolution]

Click Here Mofo's (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/03/tech/main539116.shtml)

Bout time the gov admits to the 'posibility' of other life out there.



I am not talking about UFO's and crop circles and cow mutilations, etc, just that other inhabitable worlds are more than likely out there with other life on them. I am a firm believer of the possibility if not statistical fact. Keep your flames in your lighters and matchbooks you wankers. If you want to flame, take it to another thread.

*Attempting to play Nice:love: *

[ABRAXAAS]

Bush just went up a notch in my like O meter :D

Simple there are aliens ,and we should stop worrying about fighting amungst ourselves when we could be exploring the stars
and meeting new cultures
:D

[Hamma]

Interesting :brow:

[Bighoss]

Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
Bush just went up a notch in my like O meter :D

Simple there are aliens ,and we should stop worrying about fighting amungst ourselves when we could be exploring the stars
and meeting new cultures
:D

no no we conquer and enslave them:D then take their natural resources and technology. I imagine if we ever get into space we will be like the scourge of the universe cuz we really are just like parasites.

[Toimu]

How can you say there is life on a planet other than Earth? Didn't you get the memo I sent out? I hopped into my UFO, and kill them all!

Anyone that says there is no way for life to be on another planet is ..... I don't even know. Dumb just doesn't do it this time.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Revolution

Bout time the gov admits to the 'posibility' of other life out there.

Let the debate begin because I KNOW for a fact some people are going to deny the possibility. Sad really that you are so closed minded.


About time??? What do you think SETI was all about?

Why all the whining about "I know some of you say it is not possible," and "Sad that some of you are so closed minded." It seems like you are trying to take cheap shots at everyone who thought your were a crackpot for your belief that our government is secretly using remote viewing.

Think of your sugggestion, that the government is using remote viewing, is akin to suggesting that the government is involved with diplomatic negotiations with aliens.

Please, stop with the cheap shots so I don't have to bring up remote viewing again.

[chopstickz]

"Bush suggests posibiliy of alien life"

himself?? who knows???

[Hijinks]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
About time??? What do you think SETI was all about?

Why all the whining about "I know some of you say it is not possible," and "Sad that some of you are so closed minded." It seems like you are trying to take cheap shots at everyone who thought your were a crackpot for your belief that our government is secretly using remote viewing.

Think of your sugggestion, that the government is using remote viewing, is akin to suggesting that the government is involved with diplomatic negotiations with aliens.

Please, stop with the cheap shots so I don't have to bring up remote viewing again.

Actually, he's a troll. He says things like "I know some of you say it is not possible," and "Sad that some of you are so closed minded." so that people will flame him.

:rolleyes:

[Mtx]

Bush seems like ah nice guy who wants to do the right thing. He's just not the best speaker.

This war with Iraq isn't going to be as fast as desert storm because we have to put their goivernment back together afterwards.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Hijinks
Actually, he's a troll. He says things like "I know some of you say it is not possible," and "Sad that some of you are so closed minded." so that people will flame him.

:rolleyes:
Good call.

[Revolution]

Back on the SUBJECT before SOMEONE wanted to attack me, does anyone have any comments that Bush(Thats our President) actually on the News stated of evidence of other inhabital worlds, and rock on to project promethius.

*trying to play nice with the kiddies*

[Mtx]

I can't believe we have a president who is semiu honest. Frankly that terrorfies me. :D

[Lexington_Steele]

Rev, there was an easy way to avoid this. Don't write in crap like:

"Sad really that you are so closed minded."

This was obviously a reference to when you got flamed for your Remote Viewing posts.

What did that statement add to the information you were trying to present? Why did you include that statement?

To flame maybe?

Rev, you derailed this thread before it even started.

[Revolution]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
About time??? What do you think SETI was all about?.

P.S. Are you talking about THIS SETI?

SETI.ORG (http://www.seti.org/about_us/Welcome.html)

I reason I ask is That seti is a private organization and is not government ran.

Maybe he is softening us up for an invasion, or so thats what the Remote Viewers say Lex! :rolleyes:

*Still trying to play nice with the kiddies* :mad:

[Lexington_Steele]

And it enjoyed government funding for a long time.

[Hamma]

Rev, you continue to lower to the point of name calling, and it frankly sickens me.

Please, learn how to play well with others.

I have a list of trolls and you are inching your way to that list.

[ABRAXAAS]

Yeah you dont wanna join us ,its a deep pit and hella hard to get out :(

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Said pit doubles as my urinal :D

[Derv]

Ummm first of all I would just like to say that this topic of which Bush is talking is very vague. What we picture as "Alien life" is like little green things with one eye and stuff, things that resemble something like an animal or a human or something.

However, if there is some kind of Alien life as Bush says (although I think that Bush is a complete idiot and has no clue what he's talking about, probably something that was taken out of context from one of his advisors) this "alien life" would probably be something like bacteria or something microscopic and extremely primitive, in order for it to be able to survive on a planet in such conditions that most other planets have, such as no gravity, no oxygen, no water, extreme heat, extreme cold.

Therefore the "alien life" is probably something that nobody would care about except for the reason that it is technically "alive" and on another planet.

The way I see it is that Bush is trying to prepare us or use some kind of propaganda for something he's going to do, it's all political I tell you!

I hope I haven't brewed too many enemies due to my views on "W" because this is a computer game and RL politics has nothing to do with it, so don't hate me as a game player for my views. Let's agree to disagree =).

[Nohimn]

Well... There is no life in the universe:

If there are an infinite number of planets and a limited number of habitible planets, thats:

habitable planets limited
---------------------- = ---------------- = 0
planets infinite



Therefore, the inhabitants of the universe are only the imagination of a deranged mind.

[Bighoss]

I actually believe that chances are that we are the only intelligent life. Life is classified under these 6 characteristics

Cells

All living things are composed of one or more cells.

Different types of cells have different "jobs" within the organism. Each life form begins from one cell, which then will split. These cells split, and so on. After this has happened several times, differentiation is undergone, when the cells change so that they are not the same thing anymore. Then they are used to begin to put together the final organism, some cells, for example, as the eyes, some as the heart, etc. The only arguable exception to this is viruses. They are not composed of cells, but are said to be "living."

- Organization

Complex organization patterns are found in all living organisms. They arrange themselves on very small levels, grouping like things together. On larger levels, they become visible. This also has to do with differentiation, as the cells are organized in a manner that makes sense for the organism after they change to what they�ll be in the final organism.

- Energy Use

All organisms use energy. The sum of the chemical energy they use is called metabolism. This energy is used to carry out everything they do. Autotrophs (plants) use energy from the sun for photosynthesis, to make their own �food� (glucose). Heterotrophs (animals and humans) must ingest food for this purpose.

- Homeostasis

All organisms have stable internal conditions which must be maintained in order to remain alive. These include temperature, water content, heartbeat, and other such things. In a way, this has to do with energy use, because a certain level of energy must be kept within the body at all times. For this, obviously, humans must then ingest food on a regular basis. Not all conditions are for the body to maintain itself; though most are.

- Growth

All organisms grow and change. Cells divide to form new, identical cells. Differentiation happens, as well, when cells mutate into other types of cells, making a more complex organism. Organisms growing, changing, and becoming more complex is called development. Single-celled organisms do grow as well, but they will only become slightly larger � this is nearly unmeasurable.

- Reproduction

All organisms reproduce in order to continue the species' life. This is combining genetic information (in sexual reproduction) or splitting into two organisms (in asexual reproduction) in order to create another of the same species. In sexual reproduction, the new organism will have some characteristics from the mother, and some from father. It may look like either of them, or it may not. In asexual reproduction, the new organism is an exact copy of the first. Sometimes, not every member of a species is able to reproduce. As long as others are (which we know they can, if they still exist today) then it does not threaten the species.

Who says that Life exists on other planets? We are also limited to our 5 senses. There can obivously be more than what we can see,taste,touch,hear, and smell. We may not be able to pick up on these other forms of existence. For all we know there are millions of intelligent species crawling over the earth. Life may not exist but there could be somthing else like a booperblanop (pardon my french:D) That is a gas cloud that is extremely smart but can't effect us and we can't effect it.

[Mtx]

Originally posted by Hamma

I have a list of trolls

Oh yeah?

So... what is my rank on this list? :D

[ABRAXAAS]

Originally posted by Mtx
Oh yeah?

So... what is my rank on this list? :D

I think that would be a conflict of intrests :D

[Nohimn]

I'm on that list... I know it... I don't think Bighoss and ABRAXAAS are on it though...

[Bighoss]

Somone respond to my post above !!!:mad:

[Mtx]

Die!

http://images.andale.com/f2/104/127/7218717/1042105338844_Seizure.gif

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Bighoss
That is a gas cloud that is extremely smart but can't effect us and we can't effect it.

If we have no way of interacting, detecting, or recognising it, then for all intents and purposes it might as well not exist.

[ABRAXAAS]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
If we have no way of interacting, detecting, or recognising it, then for all intents and purposes it might as well not exist.

hey ,theres thinkin in the box :confused:

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
hey ,theres thinkin in the box :confused:
What confused you?

[ABRAXAAS]

If we have no way of interacting, detecting, or recognising it, then for all intents and purposes ...well the same could be said about us by that verey thing wich we do not know, but we should always keep our minds open to the possibilty IE: thinking outside the box ;)

[Mtx]

I suggest we redesign our cities so they may lower in the ground incase of an attack. Who knows when the Zentradi will arrive. ;)

[Lexington_Steele]

Yes, a creature that can not physically interact with, effect, communicate with, or recognise our existance might as well consider us non existant.

The moment we can recognise the existance of such a thing, that all changes.

What if there are sentient creatures among us that can only live in low light and when you turn on a light you are killing hundreds of them. They have no way of effecting us. We have yet to recognise that creatures like this exist, but it is possible.

So should you avoid turning on lights to save these creatures that could possibly exist?

Or should you continue living your life the way you do now?(where for all intents and purposes, you treat these low light creatures as if they don't exist)

If ever we could recognise these creature, we should take them into account. Until we are able to recognise their existance, we are going to continue to act as if they don't exist.

[Bighoss]

you can't say what existence is because none of us really know. You will never know whats reality or not this could all be a dream or you could be like the guy the truemen show

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Bighoss
you can't say what existence is because none of us really know. You will never know whats reality or not this could all be a dream or you could be like the guy the truemen show
You have no chance to survive make your time

[Bighoss]

its an unanswerable question. Like you will never be able to describe nothing to me or what it looks like. You will never be able to imagine or describe infinity because we can't comprehend the thought

[�io]

I still can't understand how some people can think earth is the only planet out of millions and millions that can sustain life. It baffles the mind!

[Incompetent]

:stupid:

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Dio
I still can't understand how some people can think earth is the only planet out of millions and millions that can sustain life. It baffles the mind!

I think it is only the uber religious and the crazies that believe that there is no other life out there. I think that these are the minority.

Since life has occured on this planet, that would definately not rule out the possibility of there being life on other planets.

BTW we have found evidence of life outside of the Earth. Unfortunately it is not conclusive evidence.

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/whatsnew/pr/010226F.html

[Bighoss]

Originally posted by Dio
I still can't understand how some people can think earth is the only planet out of millions and millions that can sustain life. It baffles the mind!

I said I don't think there is LIFE there could very well be something else out there. To think that life exisits on other planets is extremely narrow minded. Their could be something else out their a a blob of goo that is extremely intelligent but isn't life. It doesn't move it isn't alive it isn't life its something else.

[Hamma]

:huh:

[Bighoss]

its okay Hamma only us close to achieving moksha can understand such thoughts:D

Hamma god damnit make that planetside response emailer thing stop I have 816 unread messages !!! MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP:tear: :tear:

Its the ultimate punishment for a spammer/troller I'll CHANGE JUST MAKE IT STOP *breaks down into tears thinking about how painful it will be to delete all of them*

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by Derv
However, if there is some kind of Alien life as Bush says (although I think that Bush is a complete idiot and has no clue what he's talking about, probably something that was taken out of context from one of his advisors) this "alien life" would probably be something like bacteria or something microscopic and extremely primitive, in order for it to be able to survive on a planet in such conditions that most other planets have, such as no gravity, no oxygen, no water, extreme heat, extreme cold.

Wow, a planet with no gravity. When was this discovery made? :rolleyes: I think you should check your own facts before you call someone else an idiot.

On topic: There very well could be a planet that could support multicellular life, and therefore possibly sentient life. Many of these planets could be Billions of years older than our solar system because our Sun is a relitively young star.

Then again, if there is sentient, intersteler life, why the hell would it want anything to do with us?

[Bighoss]

no planet has no gravity it couldn't exist. Every physical object has mass. Every object with mass has its own gravitational field.

[�io]

Originally posted by Bighoss
I said I don't think there is LIFE there could very well be something else out there. To think that life exisits on other planets is extremely narrow minded. Their could be something else out their a a blob of goo that is extremely intelligent but isn't life. It doesn't move it isn't alive it isn't life its something else.

Heh should have specified i was just spouting my opinion about alien life, i wasn't aiming it at you or anybody else who posted here. :)

That being said there is indeed life out there, it's not a possibility it's a certainty. There's just no way earth is the only planet in millions to have life, granted the only life on planet Y in galaxy X might just be some type of bacteria of some type of primitive lifeform but there is life out there for sure and most likely there is also intelligent life out there somewhere as well.

[Bighoss]

they have found evidence of microscopic life on mars. I actaully have to say there has to be life. Who says their more advanced though? Maybe we could conquer them:D

[�io]

:lol:

Well as i said is there intelligent life out there who knows, that is a mystery. Is there life out there? Of course, that is a certainty. :)

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by Bighoss
no planet has no gravity it couldn't exist. Every physical object has mass. Every object with mass has its own gravitational field.

Exactly my point Big, just stateing it more subtley.

[Bighoss]

Originally posted by Dio
:lol:

Well as i said is there intelligent life out there who knows, that is a mystery. Is there life out there? Of course, that is a certainty. :)

nah the world is flat and the stars are only about 1000 miles away and the dome of heaven is 3000...

We don't know about the universe's size. I doubt that it is infinity I get the feel that if earth was Point A and u just went straight foward through anything in your way that u wouldn't just keep going further but u would eventually end up back at Point A

[SandTrout]

Look up "The New World of mr. Thomkins" on amazon, it describes the shape and size of the univers. Let me tell you one thing, the Universe need to get back in shape fast, its at critical dencity.(read the book and you'll understand)

Oh yeah, ans skip quantum phisics, it will just give you a headache and/or drive you insane.

[Bighoss]

for some reason physics is kinda common sense to me actaully. We took this pre test at the beginning of the course to see if anyone knew anything and I did surprisingly well best in class.

[xuur]

it would be the ultimate in arrogant denial to think that in the entire universe, we're it.

not to mention how truly sad it would be for it to be true.

[Incompetent]

:stupid:
i wish i could think of a better way to say it, but he said it exactly the way i've always thought of it

[Tobias]

So far I only know of 12 alien races that are sentiant, as in as smart or smarter then humans, but these are only in this Galaxy, and with so many Universes out there, life must be abundant.

[Hamma]

What frightens me most is there could be more BigHoss's out there :scared:

[ABRAXAAS]

Originally posted by Tobias
So far I only know of 12 alien races that are sentiant, as in as smart or smarter then humans, but these are only in this Galaxy, and with so many Universes out there, life must be abundant.

what the hell you talkin about foo:huh: