BF1942 for BFV, in other words a free gift from EA

[Biohazzard56]

For some time, DICE Canada has been secretly working on something very cool as a gift for owners of Battlefield Vietnam. We�re pleased to finally announce the fruition of this work: the OFFICIAL WWII Mod for Battlefield Vietnam.

Have you ever wondered what Wake Island or Iwo Jima would look and play like with real tropical foliage? Do you love Battlefield Vietnam but you want to be able to relive the classics without having to dig up your 1942 disks?

The WWII Mod includes the classic Wake Island, Invasion of the Philippines and Iwo Jima maps rebuilt to take advantage of all of the new features of the Vietnam rendering engine (normal mapping, undergrowth, overgrowth, etc.), as well as the gameplay tweaks that came with BFV. (capture timer, 3D Map, use of kit weapons from passenger seats, vehicle radios, etc.)

But that�s not all, DICE Canada has also added a brand new Flamethrower weapon for both the Axis and Allied teams and re-animated all of the weapons from Battlefield 1942�s Pacific Theatre. The WWII Mod has been in heavy testing here at EA for some time, so expect to see it some time in the near future.

That came from the latest community update on the BFV Site. Cant wait :D

[Indecisive]

FLAMETHROWER! OMG.


neat.

[MattxMosh]

Oh that is sa-weet.

[EineBeBoP]

Awesome. Hope they redo the vehicle skins too, and .... hell I want a huey on wake island :)

[Jennyboo]

Sounds cool party:

[JetRaiden]

Sounds cool party:

party:

[ChewyLSB]

Uh yeah, because Japan was known for it's use of Flamethrowers during the battle of Iwo Jima.

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[Indecisive]

Flying Upside Down Skulls!

[Smaug]

Fscking pwn. I love when developers do stuff like this for customers.

[Salazar]

Uh yeah, because Japan was known for it's use of Flamethrowers during the battle of Iwo Jima.

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Yeah and Russians used Mp18's and Americans used No4's. Battlefield isnt known for its realism.

[Incompetent]

party:

[ChewyLSB]

Yeah and Russians used Mp18's and Americans used No4's. Battlefield isnt known for its realism.

Yeah I know that. So many things unrealistic about BF1942. But that's not the point. Still a good game, although not what I like.

Actually, aren't No. 4's just Enfield's?

[Setari]

Yeah I know that. So many things unrealistic about BF1942. But that's not the point. Still a good game, although not what I like.

Actually, aren't No. 4's just Enfield's?
well yea there's the Lee Enfield No.4 but there's also a Springfield '04. But I think in BF it's the Enfield.

[Doop]

Since there's already a thread on the topic of Battlefield, can anyone tell me why my CD drive is all the sudden not reading my BFV disc? It's not scratched or anything, and it worked a few days ago.

[martyr]

canadian mind-reading lasers.

[Everay]

but, there was flamethrowers in the Pacific, and Iwo Jima was during the MAcAurthers island hopping campaine, mabey im wrong, but i do think they did have em.

[martyr]

so, how long til they make a DC mod for the 1942 mod for bvf?

[JetRaiden]

but, there was flamethrowers in the Pacific, and Iwo Jima was during the MAcAurthers island hopping campaine, mabey im wrong, but i do think they did have em.

yea they had em. not very abundant (Im sure it will be in-game), but nonetheless they were there.

[Biohazzard56]

so, how long til they make a DC mod for the 1942 mod for bvf?

No Desert Combat for BFV, DC .8 should be out within a month. They have been busy working on Battlefield 2.

[Sputty]

BTW, the gift was from DICE, not EA

[ChewyLSB]

but, there was flamethrowers in the Pacific, and Iwo Jima was during the MAcAurthers island hopping campaine, mabey im wrong, but i do think they did have em.

Yes, AMERICA used flamethrowers. America's known for it's use of flamethrowers during the battle of Iwo Jima. (But then again, Flamethrowers weren't exactly the best back then. A flamethrower's life span was measured in seconds) Japan never used flamethrowers. Hell, Japan detested SMG's. Only about 100 Type 100's (or was it 101's? I don't remember) were issued, which were SMG's, because Japan didn't like SMG's.

[Sputty]

Why? Because Japanese ground tactics and equipment was retarded

[ChewyLSB]

I believe their reasoning for not using SMG's was something along the lines of "A rifle's always worked for me, why do I have to switch to an SMG?" This probably caused the defeat in many battles. I mean, hell, as it was, America had a tough time with many battles (Iwo Jima comes to mind).

EDIT: Oh another thing, flamethrowers really didn't have much of a use during World War II. They were too cumbersome and easily killed (one shot to the back = dead, and everyone around him in a 10m radius)

[Indecisive]

Seriously, in a realistic setting, when you are going for straight killing power, why go for short range flames, over longer range rifle?

[Smaug]

Flame throwers were used for clearing out caves in Iwo Jima. A very helpful weapon. Instead of charging in there and getting several men killed, you just fry them all.

There is really no point in arguing that BF isn't realistic, because it never was supposed to be, and never will be.

[Sputty]

BFV1942(or whatever it's called) will make alot of people realise why flamethrowers don't work in games like that. The 15 people runnning around causing fps rape and creating streams of death will get annoying

[Smaug]

I won't mind. Just more sniper bait for me.

[Sputty]

I won't mind. Just more sniper bait for me.
Try sniping at 3 fps

[Dharkbayne]

You know when it comes out, EVERYONE'S gonna try out Ol' Flamey, I hope htey make it so if you get hit in the tank, you blow the fuck up./

[ChewyLSB]

Flame throwers were used for clearing out caves in Iwo Jima. A very helpful weapon. Instead of charging in there and getting several men killed, you just fry them all.


Do you know what the strategy was for cave clearing in Iwo Jima? Three people, one armed with a flamethrower, one armed with a Thompson (I think, maybe an M3), and the last with a Garand, would move into position outside the cave entrance. They would use the flamer to fire into the cave opening, kill maybe one person max, then a Japanese rifleman would shoot the flamer, killing all three. Repeat about 20 times until you kill... the 5 japanese inside the cave.

So that's 60 people for only a handful of Japanese. The same job could be done the same, if not better, with grenades.

[MattxMosh]

No Desert Combat for BFV, DC .8 should be out within a month. They have been busy working on Battlefield 2.

I can't wait fo rthat, but, if you liked teh Eve of Destruction Mod, thats being worked on for BFV, which should be great.

[Sputty]

...Why? What does Eve have that BF:V doesn't? Maybe some more maps, and a couple more vehicles, but it seems rather pointless

[MattxMosh]

...Why? What does Eve have that BF:V doesn't? Maybe some more maps, and a couple more vehicles, but it seems rather pointless

It'll be more like a free expansion pack I suppose.

I really liked EoD, more so than BF:V, a lot more, but hey, thats just me.

Edit: The multiplayer maps are much more fun to me.

[Dharkbayne]

Do you know what the strategy was for cave clearing in Iwo Jima? Three people, one armed with a flamethrower, one armed with a Thompson (I think, maybe an M3), and the last with a Garand, would move into position outside the cave entrance. They would use the flamer to fire into the cave opening, kill maybe one person max, then a Japanese rifleman would shoot the flamer, killing all three. Repeat about 20 times until you kill... the 5 japanese inside the cave.

So that's 60 people for only a handful of Japanese. The same job could be done the same, if not better, with grenades.

I doubt they did the EXACT SAME THING 20 times in a row, on every cave, if 5 people died every time. :doh:

[Sputty]

While the Marines lost a lot of troops in combat on Iwo Jima, the Japanese lost far more.

[ChewyLSB]

Japan didn't have as many people as you think on Iwo Jima. Japan knew it was going to lose Iwo Jima, so they fought to the death, with the theory of "taking down as many American's as they can".

I saw something on the History Channel about Iwo Jima.

Dharkbayne: It sounds stupid, but that is EXACTLY what they did. Same strategy, over and over again for one cave entrance until the cave was clear. Next cave, same exact thing. Japan fortified Iwo Jima extremely well, and more American's were lost than were Japanese (I am almost 90% sure of this, maybe I'm wrong).

EDIT: I stand corrected, Japan lost 25,000, America lost 20,000. That's pretty impressive for Japan considered how outnumbered they were.

[Sputty]

You're wrong. Hundreds of thousands of Japanese died at Iwo Jima. I believe around 50k Americans were lost.

[oddfish]

You're wrong. Hundreds of thousands of Japanese died at Iwo Jima. I believe around 50k Americans were lost.


actually, there were lots of advanced medics on Iwo Jima. you'd be surprised at the minimal loss of men. Something like eight guys who were only BR3 or something. n00bs.

[ChewyLSB]

Sputty, that is a) impossible and b) improbable. There weren't even "hundred of thousands" of Japanese on Iwo Jima, there were 25k Japanese on Iwo Jima. I editted my last post... so...

[Dharkbayne]

Why are you so gung ho about defending Japania, they lost.

[ChewyLSB]

I'm just saying the loss on Iwo Jima wasn't a "crushing defeat" on Japan as some people think.

[Sputty]

It's not Japania idiot
It's Japanico

[Dharkbayne]

It's not Japania idiot
It's Japanico
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Sputty]

Bah, the site I got Iwo Jima info from sucked

[JetRaiden]

I hate the No1 rifle in BF1942. it has the fire power of a BB Gun and Ive never seen it before in my life. Why couldnt they have the M1 Garand from the start?

[ChewyLSB]

The reason they didn't use the Garand is because there is no German or Japanese semi-automatic rifle, so they gave American's the No. 4's, or else they'd have an unfair advantage.

[Incompetent]

yes god forbid there is the slightest variance between the two sides equipment. :rolleyes:

[ChewyLSB]

But then it wouldn't really be fair. I mean, the American BAR (which is absurd that so many guys get it, btw) is already considered more powerful than the MP44 (also known as the StG44, in case you're wondering what I'm talking about), so why give the American's ANOTHER advantage? Unless you make the MP40 and the German sniper rifle (it's been such a long time, I'm 90% sure it's the Kark98k) more powerful than the american variants...

[JetRaiden]

[QUOTE=ChewyLSB]But then it wouldn't really be fair. I mean, the American BAR (which is absurd that so many guys get it, btw) QUOTE]

yea. thats why I like DoD so much. the classes are more realistically balanced. not like 20 guys with BARs, 4 thompsons, a couple No4s, and a few Springfield 03s.

[Hamma]

So now they turn a Vietnam game into a WW2 game.

Havent we had enough fucking WW2 games?!!?!??!

[Biohazzard56]

So now they turn a Vietnam game into a WW2 game.

Havent we had enough fucking WW2 games?!!?!??!

Its free, its not like EA will be shoving it down you throat.

.....Wait a minute, Whats this on the back of CD Case, Oh My GOD! MEDAL OF HONOR, MUST BUY!

[Kaltagesta]

I always thought that BFV was the Vietnam mod for BF1942. So... They are making a WW2 mod for a Vietnam mod of a WW2 game!

Well im happy, its free.

[Biohazzard56]

The reason they didn't use the Garand is because there is no German or Japanese semi-automatic rifle, so they gave American's the No. 4's, or else they'd have an unfair advantage.

No, Americans endered the war with the garand :doh:

The only reason it wasnt in BF1942 before 1.4 is because they didnt make one, its that simple. Most soliders in the war were equipped with a garand or something very similar. It could have been for gameplay balance maybe thats why they didnt make one. Also, the germans out numbered us in automatic firepower 5:1.