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SandTrout
2003-02-06, 07:18 PM
In DAoC, there used to be gatherings between the realms so people could chalenge one-another to 1v1 matches.This dueling was fairly popular to watch and participate in, but I'm wondering if you guys think it will happen.
It also gave ingame comparison between some classes for the purpose of balanceing.
Camping Carl
2003-02-06, 07:28 PM
I'd love to find the most arrogant people from other empires and shut them up. Or see Da King shut them up. :D
doggzj
2003-02-06, 07:28 PM
Bad idea...
PrivateMonkey
2003-02-06, 07:28 PM
It won't happen, but it would be interesting.
On the other hand, PS is a PvP game. You will always be dueling. What is the point of getting together to do it? It certainly wouldn't be that special.
What I do perhaps see is rival outfits fighting for control of specific bases/continents. For example, Server X could have an "event" on Searhus, or any of the other continents. The event would take place during the early morning when there isn't that much traffic on any of the continents. Three large outfits could agree to battle it out on a specific continent.
But again, there isn't any real reason to do this. The game is at it's core PvP already.
Lexington_Steele
2003-02-06, 07:29 PM
If the training simulator allows it, there might be duels between people of same fation.
Hamma
2003-02-06, 07:33 PM
Dont think you will see 1 on 1 duels happening at all (somthing where everyone stops and watches) there is always someone who is gonna cap one of them lol
mistled
2003-02-06, 07:38 PM
I dont' think it'll happen just b/c of the mass number of people in game and the fact that you can't communicate with the enemy. It would have to be planned out of game (which means knowing how to contact someone when all you have is their screen name to work with... unless they are in an outfit, which would be easier to track down), and it would require voice communication to get started. Otherwise, how would the people know when to begin since they can't talk in game??
I do think it would be fun though. Matter of fact, I've got some people in SoF2 I'd love to get into a one on one duel. :)
Navaron
2003-02-06, 07:42 PM
IN THE WHITE CORNER - THE WAMS OF PSU AND IN THE PINK CORNER - HAMMA AND HIS THONG OF FEAR!!!
DING DING DING
Arenas would be sweet. Have a teleporter to get into it and when inside you can only be attacked if you accept a duel. Grief points would be ignored. Ha! What a great idea. Perfect for practicing your twitch before a big battle. The arena it self would be a small quakestyle level.
Spectators could watch from the outside. To add even more to the fun allow people to register bets at a terminal (so there is not cheating). Give everyone some money to use for bets in when they kill an enemy. Aside from this the 'money' would be useless.... unless you wanna add some useless perks you can buy with money... like a larger appartment? You could do a lot with this idea.... arena stat tracking.... and % chance on winning based on stats (for the gamblers)
I like it! Maybe after a few months they could add something like this in a pwnage patch.
ABRAXAAS
2003-02-06, 07:56 PM
If they are going to add that on later all the need is a special Island only accessable by hart drop pods ,and it could be like starwars jedi outcast 2 where you pick a fight etc ,and they could have a big arena and a race track around the outside for buggy races and hoops floating in the air for air races and a target range for accuracy etc ,it would be a great thing to add after a few months have passed as a refresshing change :D
SandTrout
2003-02-06, 08:04 PM
The devs will most likely not support this in-game. In DAoC you could not chat with other realms either, but people arranged these matches via IRC and forums.
To PrivateMonkey: The differece is that you dont always get to fight someone on the field 1 on 1. You'll almost always be with a squad or against one. Duels are for chalenges of skill between 2 players(hence the term "duel")
I agree it will probably not happen, but I would like it to because it could give insight on the use of weapons, implants, armor, and equipment.
TheGreatCarbini
2003-02-06, 08:36 PM
In PS you could set up a duel easily, just group with someone and then you could have a pistol duel or something. friendly fire is on and grief points aren't counted inside your own squad right? So just make a 2 man squad and go to town.:)
Just fight around something you can respawn at. ;)
mistled
2003-02-06, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by TheGreatCarbini
In PS you could set up a duel easily, just group with someone and then you could have a pistol duel or something. friendly fire is on and grief points aren't counted inside your own squad right? So just make a 2 man squad and go to town.:)
Just fight around something you can respawn at. ;) Well, yeah, I'll do this in my own outfit since we're nuts, but I'm looking for duels against an enemy. You know, that guy you seem to see every other day at your base. That guy who it always seems has your number. That's the guy's ass I want to kick. Duels within my group are simply a diversion when there's not much going on. :)
Navaron
2003-02-06, 08:49 PM
........or a good excuse for why mist unexplainably keep dying.
mistled
2003-02-06, 08:55 PM
Don't even try it... it's pretty obvious after the third time that "navarone kills mistled with ak74" flashes at the top of the screen. :p
Zetre
2003-02-06, 09:29 PM
i personally like the idea very much. And it would be really stupid to not put in dueling sometime or another, cause people are gonna do it anyway. Just form a squad, and then get away from each other in your sanctuary a bit, then find each other and kill. It would be especially cool. cause other people would run around, and you would have to make sure you are shooting the right person
Kyonye
2003-02-06, 10:41 PM
its not a bad idea but i doubt it would happen. there's always one person who doesn't know whats going on. he'll be the one to ruin it. everyone wants action, most people don't care to sit around and watch. action is better then watching, we all know that.
mistled
2003-02-06, 10:44 PM
I like the idea of an arena a lot. But it's kind of a big undertaking for the devs for something that doesn't even directly affect the rest of the game. Probably too big of a hassle to implement to be thrown in as a bonus on an expansion.
LesserShade
2003-02-06, 10:46 PM
^agreed.. it was a little different in daoc.. all it will take is one newb to tap the trigger on his assault rifle and it'll get ugly fast.
Whatever, i'll be too busy making ANT runs to have time for dueling :o
Kyonye
2003-02-06, 10:47 PM
damn straight.
Fire_Monkey
2003-02-06, 10:48 PM
The downfall of dueling is that it defeats the entire purpose of
PS since is squad based... but it would be cool. It won't be included in any patches/expansion though
Zetre
2003-02-06, 10:59 PM
thank you ms. cleo
it wouldn't take that long to make an arena area, and it would be kinda cool. It would be a good way to compete in a skill based way, cause it's just 1 on 1, and there could be an option to set both of the people to the same thing. EG pistol duling. I would really like this, and hope that the devs look into it
Irrational
2003-02-06, 11:19 PM
Yeah I think it would be pretty hard to get it to happen, and if anybody comes by where ur dueling then they will ruin it. The idea of a dueling arena is interesting tho....
Zetre
2003-02-06, 11:25 PM
why would it ruin the dual. It would just make it more interesting, you would have to avoid shooting the noob. You could use him as a sheild and stuff, it would be funny
TGF NightHawk
2003-02-06, 11:29 PM
I too like the idea of dueling, you could see what areas you would need to improve in to make your character"tougher". I'm not sure that it will be possible but...who knows!
WCruler
2003-02-07, 02:51 PM
You should only be able to duel people from your own empire, sorta like if some kid in your squad pisses you off you can kill him with out getting grief penelty.
I mean dueling people from another empire? Why dont you just shoot them?
Ok I am done, thanks for listening! :spam:
Tobias
2003-02-07, 03:08 PM
dueling arena sounds cool, but I think I will just snipe people and call it a one on one duel that I usally win.
Arshune
2003-02-07, 03:16 PM
If a duel took place in an outdoor area, all the people watching would get hit by stray fire and a battle would probably break out anyway. I think it'd be really cool to duke it out with people in your own empire though, I'd like to be able to frag my friends instead of strangers once in a while.
TheGreatCarbini
2003-02-07, 04:31 PM
An intra-empire area duel would be kool. you could make it like a paintball kinda thing and have a broken helicopter and some random walls around everywhere, then it might be kinda fun, maybey even squad duels, this would make for good training against live oponets, you could prolly just incorperate it right into the VR thing.
Saint
2003-02-07, 04:44 PM
If I see some people dueling I will toss 4 or 5 grenades up in there and stealth up behind some agiles and backhand them with a melee boosted secondary attack.
Zetre
2003-02-07, 08:24 PM
here's what we could do. If anyone in here is good at modding, then someone should just make a Planetside like mod for a game, probably halo PC. Then we could all buy that game, and then just play the mod. We could call it something strange like Mooncorner, and have all of the things have the same damage models and everything, but just look different. This way, we could play PS in a fast paced way to get our skills flowin, and to just have lan parties and such (cause the PS weapons and systems are pretty cool) and then whoop booty in the real game. Anyone in here mod?
Dueling will never happen in the game unless the creators do something like what Sol was saying, although I highly doubt that they would do something like this.
If I ever saw a large group of people standing around, whether they were watching a duel or not, I would definately start blasting ass like there was no tomorrow.
Also if I saw just two people in the middle of nowhere fighting, i would start shooting the enemy, if one of them was in my Empire, for fear that it was not a duel and I would try to save the life of my ally.
If both of them were not in my Empire I would cap them both also tho =).
Subliminal
2003-02-12, 10:18 PM
Well duals without spectators will be common because what happenes when 2 enemy buggies just going along their merry way in the middle of nowhere get just to close for comfort. Yes the big battles with be really cool but i imagine just 1v1 in the wilderness will be pretty fun too.
Jet_Li
2003-02-12, 10:24 PM
it would take out the whole reason for the game, to work as a team in a game that is simular actuall war. Duels would take this away and replace the war with a way to upgrade your charactor and then be unstopable at the duels. Even if not everyone thinks this way, if you are in a duel and lose misrably, it will take pat of the reall, original game from you and have your goals spread out between them.
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