Effectively rendering vague opinion polls obsolete...

[AztecWarrior]

...an ELECTORAL map of who will win the Presidency. It looks like the post-convention bounce helped Kerry a bit...but it's going to be close.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[JetRaiden]

Rednecks 4 Bush!

[Sputty]

That does look a little...odd

[Electrofreak]

God, I hope I don't have to deal with another 4 years of Bush. I'm voting Kerry, at least he won't throw the nation into an unjustified war based upon lies and deceit (on the president's part). I love how the last 2 Bushes have sent our troops marching around in the mideast to solve the situation by killing instead of diplomacy (or at least, more reserved and organised killing). Go ahead and flame me, I know somebody will.

[Baneblade]

Well I don't like either of them...and it sucks that we have to choose between two people I would never hire for a grocery store manager position.

[Electrofreak]

True, I admit Kerry wasnt my first choice either, but IMO hes better than the crazy cowboy.

[OfaLoaf]

This is pol. debate material...

At least Kerry seems to have California and New York....

[Infernus]

eh... I still don't know who I want to win... but according to that Pennsylvania is swinging the way of the donkey...

[Triggar]

w00t, Florida's a blue state now :)

Guess I'll have to have more John Kerry Fundraising parties to make it colored in blue then, eh.

You're all invited!

[Jennyboo]

w00t, Florida's a blue state now :)

Guess I'll have to have more John Kerry Fundraising parties to make it colored in blue then, eh.

You're all invited!
I cant vote :p but I'll come GO Kerry party:

[AztecWarrior]

w00t, Florida's a blue state now :)

Guess I'll have to have more John Kerry Fundraising parties to make it colored in blue then, eh.

You're all invited!
F U

It's really close. And both my parents are voting Bush.

[Hydralisk]

If that chart is true... Kerry wins... He has NY, Florida, California, and PA.
Bush is actually intellegent... He just isn't a very good speaker... I will never vote for a democrat. They tax you based on your wealth. Harder workers don't need to be taxed more because they have goals and aren't lazy couch-potatoes. Bush didn't send the troops in for no reason. Iraq was the ground zero of terrorism. Wtf? Saddam gassing hundreds of thousands of his own people? Any good President would have sent troops in to control the insanity in the middle east. I'm not trying to flame, but most teenagers are too ignorant to see that...

[Infernus]

Most teenagers are ignorant in general and don't know what the middle east is... :rolleyes:

If I could vote this year would be the year I abstain from voting... neither of the candidates appeal to me, and I sure as hell ain't gonna toss a vote to that arsewipe Nadar...

[Triggar]

I will never vote for a democrat. They tax you based on your wealth. Harder workers don't need to be taxed more because they have goals and aren't lazy couch-potatoes.

Wha?!

Bush's tax cuts screwed over poor people - he should have learned from past president's mistakes that the whole "trickle-down" theory, where if you cut the taxes for the rich people, they'll spend more money and eventually it'll help out the poor people, doesn't work.

Bush is a strong, strong ally of the wealthy Americans. The poor people being affected by Bush's stance on unions (he's against them, much to WalMart's delight - they can keep paying their employees jack shit) generally don't get their news from anywhere but Fox (studies have proven it), so they don't have a clue that the hand that is feeding them is the same hand that takes their money.

[SDM]

WTF IS THIS THREAD DOING IN MY LOUNGE!?

[Hydralisk]

He isn't cutting the taxes for the rich people, he is making them even with poor peoples.
We can't really make an argument on who would be better however until we see how Kerry handles things(If he is elected).

Most teenagers are ignorant in general and don't know what the middle east is... :rolleyes:

If I could vote this year would be the year I abstain from voting... neither of the candidates appeal to me, and I sure as hell ain't gonna toss a vote to that arsewipe Nadar...
Roffles :lol:

[Triggar]

WTF IS THIS THREAD DOING IN MY LOUNGE!?

I apologise your Highness, my complete lack of understanding with the Republican Peoples leads me to lash out irrationally from time to time... I hope you understand oh mighty Butt Pillager!

[Spee]

Iraq was the ground zero of terrorism. Wtf? Saddam gassing hundreds of thousands of his own people? Any good President would have sent troops in to control the insanity in the middle east. I'm not trying to flame, but most teenagers are too ignorant to see that...


Yarr, ignorance ahoy!

Find me a plausible, refuted connection with 9/11 and Saddam. Yeah, Saddam was a douchebag, but we put him there. Whups.

And as per Saddam gassing his own troops, and us goign to fix it. I could list of several countries that are ruled by tyrants, and have people being opressed constantly. The lack of nuclear weapons/weapons of mass destruction made bush backpedal and say "Um...yeah. We were...Um...LIBERATING the Iraqi's. yeah. Liberating."

And even IF Saddam did have WoMD's, there is a very SMALL chance that any of them could make it over here. MIssile guidance/propulsion systems take a lot of people, and a lot of money to run properly. From iraq, a nuke MIGHT be able to hit new York. Maybe.

And if Saddam was so intent on killing us all, why didnt he build a reactor core (or easier yet, BUY plutonium from some people) and book a private plane, and blow a dirty bomb in an airport? If He really wanted to, he COULD have blown us up good like.

But no. We went to war because there was a tyrannical ruler standing on a big pile of oil. I KNOW that Bush went there over oil. Halliburton would not have gotten a no-contest contract to rebuild it if he hadnt. WoMD's, Liberating Iraqi's was all a pretty cover story to make the public swallow the war without much unrest.

And I dont give a frag if I'm wrong. You can debate me all day, and Ill stick to this theory. Yarrr.

[Hydralisk]

I agree with you on the oil prospect.
/end post

[Hamma]

Looks about right.

[firecrackerNC]

God, I hope I don't have to deal with another 4 years of Bush. I'm voting Kerry, at least he won't throw the nation into an unjustified war based upon lies and deceit (on the president's part). I love how the last 2 Bushes have sent our troops marching around in the mideast to solve the situation by killing instead of diplomacy (or at least, more reserved and organised killing). Go ahead and flame me, I know somebody will.


Eh wtf? The first war was %100 justifiable.You cant talk peace with terrorists,they retarded losers who think Allah tells them to blow them self up.As for this last war yes,true some of the reasons were a bit wrong and yet Saddam is out of power,Iraq is free in a way and hopefully can be more stable in the coming months.Id rather have Bush who does what NEEDS to be done then Kerry whos gonna kiss everyones ass we hurt ties with,IE the French. Hes gonna totally screw up Iraq and pull out too early and cause that nation to fall under a dictator rule again.

[OfaLoaf]

Yes, Afghanistan was excellent; everybody supported us, the taliban were bad shits, it was the dawn of a glorious era. Iraq: the most fucked over PR evar.

We hurt more nations than the French. We hurt ties with almost all of Europe excluding the UK.

[THrONeBeaST]

Im still voting none of the above

[SDM]

I apologise your Highness, my complete lack of understanding with the Republican Peoples leads me to lash out irrationally from time to time... I hope you understand oh mighty Butt Pillager!
OMG ur having a SARCASMSPASM! wtf! UR soo mean to n00bs! REPOARTERD!

[UncleDynamite]

STFU SDM you troll! Stop obcessing!

[Sputty]

SDM can obsess with me anytime :brow: