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Unregistered
2003-02-07, 03:30 PM
So they have been plaing a few tracks from Audioslave on the radio here and I thought they sounded pretty good so I picked up the whole album last night and just got done hearing it all the way through for the first time.

Let me say it's an interesting combo of musicians. You can deffinatly tell that the band is Rage Against the Machine. It has there sound that's for sure.

The interesting part is Chris Cornel. I was never a huge fan of Soundgarden, or his solo stuff, but his work here is fairly impressive. The pace of the album is a lot slower then and RATM album ever was, and has a real Soundgarden feel to the whole thing, but with RATM backing him it gives the music something new that Soundgarden was never capable of doing.

All in all it's a good album, and I was wondering if anyone else had heard it and what their impression of it was.

To any pontical buyers of this album I have to warn you that if you hoping for something as angry as RATM you'll be dissapointed. If you hoping it's more like Soundgarden your gonna be very impressed with the album.

Overall I give it a B+

Rage > Audioslave > Soundgarden

HotDogTommy
2003-02-07, 03:34 PM
I agree, it seems like its been a while since I've liked a pop band that I could call 'rock and roll'.

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-07, 03:36 PM
who's Audioslave/Rage Against the Machine/Chris Corne/ Soundgarden/RATM:confused:

Unregistered
2003-02-07, 03:39 PM
If you don't already know you must listen to either County or cRap.

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-07, 03:48 PM
No country ,rap yes ,house, elctronica alot of top 40 stuff ,but none of that rings a bell,well soundgarden kinda does but I cant remeber what they do :confused:

Unregistered
2003-02-07, 04:02 PM
They don't do anything anymore since Chris Cornel (their singer) left a few years ago.

They sung songs like "Black Hole Sun", "The Day I Tried to Live" and "Spoonman"

RTAM = Rage Against the Machine. They are a bunch of Politicly Charged Harverd Grads that had the heavist, and best done Rap/Rock sound until their singer quit last year. If Anarchy had an anthem they'd be the ones singing it.

They did songs like "Gorilla Radio", "Know Your Enemy", and "Sleep Now in the Fire"

So Rage had no sinnger, and Chris Cornel had no band so they teamed up to become Audioslave.

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-07, 04:04 PM
I feel learnded:D

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:05 PM
I was a part of the Official Audioslave Street Team, until they shut us down after the albums release.

I am a huge Chris Cornell/Soundgarden fan, so I really enjoy Audioslave's music. Although I think this was a poor first effort, but I blame that on Rick Rubin. There was at least one song, "The Better Bomb" that I thought belonged on the album, but for some reason didn't make it, and the voice effects and "studio" sound Rubin added are awful.

I am most impressed by Tim C's bass playing. I always thought of Morello as the only talented musician in Rage, but I think Tim C is better than Morello in some aspects(I still think Brad Wilk is an awful drummer).

The album is probably a little "slow" for Rage fans. But there are a couple of pretty hard-rockin' songs, that some of you might enjoy.

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:08 PM
Btw, that's where I got my name. This project was originally name "Civilian." ;)

Unregistered
2003-02-07, 04:16 PM
That's pretty cool stuff Civ. Can you get me free tickets to the upcoming show at the warfield in SF? ;)

I'm thinking about going. Infact that's why I bought the album. Just to make sure they were worth seeing live. The last time I went to see a band live that had one or two good radio songs it turned out to be the worst concert I have ever suffered through. Infact I was so dissgusted by it all that I walked out before it was done.

So take my advice, unless you need a cure for insomnia never go see Perfect Circle live.

Hamma
2003-02-07, 04:17 PM
I've heard some of their songs on the radio.

Pretty good stuff :D

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-07, 04:23 PM
Tom Morello fell of a long time ago. His niche was coming up with interesting sounds with his guitar. Unfortunately his bag of tricks has run dry. Now he is trying to compensate with more conventional guitar playing and it does nothing for me. :(

Well, atleast Audioslave is not as bad as the stuff Zack De La Rocha did with Roni Size.

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:25 PM
That's pretty cool stuff Civ. Can you get me free tickets to the upcoming show at the warfield in SF?

Unfortunately, no. :( You can get advanced ticketing if you join the "online" street team. The best I could do, is a sticker and the "Cochise" single, sorry. :( I have tickets for both the Austin show and the Dallas show. Can't wait.

So take my advice, unless you need a cure for insomnia never go see Perfect Circle live.

I looove A Perfect Circle! They are already working on a new album, which means no Tool :(. Know Your Enemy is probably my favorite Rage song, because Maynard has that small part in it.

mistled
2003-02-07, 04:28 PM
I like what I've heard of their's on the radio. I was a huge soundgarden fan (there's an acoustic version of spoonman that is really cool), but lately I've been in more of a RATM style mode than SG, so I haven't picked up the album for the very reason mentioned. What I've heard of it is much more SG than rage.

Does anyone who what Zach's doing now??

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:31 PM
Zack's working on his new album, with Trent Reznor producing. So he is going to stick with the Rock-Rap hybrid, I am guessing. He will have a new song on the soundtrack of The Matrix Reloaded.

mistled
2003-02-07, 04:37 PM
What band is he playing with?? Just some studio guys??

Unregistered
2003-02-07, 04:37 PM
Sorry Civ, but you have to understand that I'm a Speed Metal fan from way back.

Slayer, Venom, Exodus, S.O.D., Deicide, Gorguts, Canibal Corpse. Stuff like that. When I want to mellow out and hear something with a slower tempo i'll pop in something like the Misfits, NOFX, Screeching Weasle, Dr. Know or English Dogs.

Don't get me wrong. I like stuff that's even Mellower then Speed Metal, or Punk but when I went and saw Perfect Circle I was expecting more Tool, and less Pink Floyd. Had I known what I was getting myself into before hand I might have enjoyed the show a little more.

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:45 PM
Oh I see, I did misunderstand :) A Perfect Circle never struck me as something Maynard should be a part of, but I am actually a fan of any kind of rock, including APC. I can't believe you like Audioslave if that's the case.

What band is he playing with?? Just some studio guys??

I would imagine it's similar to what Reznor does with most of his bands using alot of electronic beats and baselines. Although there probably will be a studio band, I doubt they will play a large part in any of his songs.

mistled
2003-02-07, 04:47 PM
Oh well.... I guess I was hoping for another Zack/Morello type match up.

Civilian
2003-02-07, 04:48 PM
Yeah, that would be nice. I am not saying that won't happen, he has been pretty tight-lipped about his solo stuff. It may be VERY similar to Rage, I dunno.

Unregistered
2003-02-07, 04:52 PM
I just have to be in the right mood for melow music like Pink Floyd or some of the Audioslave tracks. Some of the other tracks like Gasoline kick much ass.

I like all kinds of music, but my tastes definnatly lean tword the harder/faster stuff.

Hell I even went and saw Neil Dimond live one, and had a great time. That dude rocks live, and given the chance I'd go again. Nothing like a stadium full of people going nuts sining along to "Sweet Caroline *BUM* *BUM* *BUM* Good times never felt so good, I been Inclined......shit I'm getting carried away, sorry :D

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-07, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Civilian
Yeah, that would be nice. I am not saying that won't happen, he has been pretty tight-lipped about his solo stuff. It may be VERY similar to Rage, I dunno.

I am not expecting much from that guy, his vocal delivery was getting steadily worse with each album.

HotDogTommy
2003-02-07, 10:12 PM
Brad Wilk is an awful drummer?!?!?!
That sounds pretty nuts to me. Do you play any instruments Civilian?
And Lex! Tom Morello was always known for being creative with different sounds on his guitar, but the reason he stayed popular was because he wrote great riffs. He got popular before everyone saw videos of him doing weird shit with his guitar, b/c the songs were good. And besides, he's still doing different things, I can hear it on the album.
Everyone just took the band in a different direction than RATM and SG, which makes sense as its a different band. I always thought Rage would have been a good band if they got rid of Zach and just started rocking. And they did! I been waiting a long time for this.

Civilian
2003-02-07, 10:44 PM
Lollapalooza is back with QOTSA, J5, Incubus and Audioslave headlining. Gonna be GREAT!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1469847/20030207/audioslave.jhtml?headlines=true

Yes, I play guitar.

Years of Matt Cameron drumming may have me skewed but I'm just not all that impressed with Wilk. He is definitely the weakest musician in that band, and probably wouldn't make my top 50 drummers.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-08, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by HotDogTommy
And Lex! Tom Morello was always known for being creative with different sounds on his guitar, but the reason he stayed popular was because he wrote great riffs.

I disagree, Morello does not crank out great riffs. What he does do is crank out interesting guitar tricks and sounds. He has run out of tricks. Raw guitar noises are better suited to a rawer sound than Audio Slave has anyways. His riffs with RATM are very simple and repetative, almost without exception.

Now he is trying to do something that is not his forte and it shows. Someone like Navarro would be a better fit for the sound Audioslave seems to want to have.

Speaking of Dave Navarro, what the hell is Perry Farrel up to these days? Is he still going on and on about "Jubilee."

HotDogTommy
2003-02-08, 05:42 PM
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree Lex.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-08, 06:42 PM
:rock:

Tolvy
2003-02-09, 05:23 PM
I have some RATM, Soundgarden and Audioslave CD's. Really good stuff. Although, I think Audioslave's new album would sound better with Rage's old singer. Chris Cornell should have stuck with Soundgarden.
Although these bands are cool, I'd have to say that "Sevendust", "KoRn", and "Tool" top all!

Edit: WOOHOO I'm a Veteran rank now!