View Full Version : BFR Pics!
Infernus
2004-08-12, 09:37 PM
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Biohazzard56
2004-08-12, 09:44 PM
TR for teh win.
UncleDynamite
2004-08-12, 09:51 PM
Nice! Thanks Inf :thumbsup:
Hamma
2004-08-12, 10:14 PM
Sweet looking
Firefly
2004-08-12, 10:19 PM
Rock on. Let's hope TR missiles aren't dumbfire. Make it like the Striker. Ha.
Yerster
2004-08-12, 10:38 PM
I think i wet my pants
MrCovertMan
2004-08-12, 11:01 PM
VS one looks the best.
BFR no longer stands for Battle Frame Robotics
It stands for Big Freaking Robots
Doppler
2004-08-12, 11:06 PM
Oh great more flying bullshit.
Cauldron Borne
2004-08-12, 11:17 PM
Big FUCKIN' Robots....
TR looks like....a CauldronBorn ('MechWarrior).... good GOD I'm gonna get a lot of /tells now.....
JakeLogan
2004-08-12, 11:23 PM
Big FUCKIN' Robots....
TR looks like....a CauldronBorn ('MechWarrior).... good GOD I'm gonna get a lot of /tells now.....
I'd say a mix of the cauldron borne and the bushwhacker really. the bw is my favorite mech that little guy can cause alot of damage at close range.
mechaman
2004-08-12, 11:45 PM
I cant wait till they are in game, they are going to fucking own
Warborn
2004-08-12, 11:51 PM
Oh great more flying bullshit.
Maybe they'll be flying bullshit designed to eliminate other flying bullshit. You know, the much asked for air-to-air fighters. I think that would be the ideal situation. If they're just more aircraft designed to spam the shit out of ground targets I'll be thoroughly disappointed.
Rbstr
2004-08-12, 11:52 PM
You know waht i realy liek tha way these look
Personaly i think the NC looks more liek a bushwacker, Both the NC and TR are Very Battletechish and thats cool
I bet they have JJ's but probably not much more than that, or perhaps a flying mode, with no weapons out.
Cauldron Borne
2004-08-12, 11:57 PM
TR, NC: 'MechWarrior
VS: Robotech/Gundam Wing/Voltron
Warborn
2004-08-12, 11:58 PM
I bet they have JJ's but probably not much more than that, or perhaps a flying mode, with no weapons out.
It was stated in the magazine, or somewhere else, that the one-man version of the BFRs can fly. The two man version packs heavy ordinance. Paraphrased of course, but basically the above.
Doppler
2004-08-13, 12:11 AM
Maybe they'll be flying bullshit designed to eliminate other flying bullshit. You know, the much asked for air-to-air fighters. I think that would be the ideal situation. If they're just more aircraft designed to spam the shit out of ground targets I'll be thoroughly disappointed.
And yet we both know that that's what going to happen, as the developers seem commited to keeping airpower dominant, and if the flying varient was an air to air hunter they most likely wohuld have mentioened it by now.
Warborn
2004-08-13, 12:39 AM
And yet we both know that that's what going to happen, as the developers seem commited to keeping airpower dominant, and if the flying varient was an air to air hunter they most likely wohuld have mentioened it by now.
Yep, you're right. It'll probably just be a generic "durrr guns shoot ground targets gud!" aircraft like the Reaver, but the developers have been making some good decisions lately, and I would like to try and remain optimistic that perhaps aircraft will some day be the most effective way to deter other aircraft.
BIGTROJANMAN
2004-08-13, 12:55 AM
:tear: The page wont come up form me. :tear:
Biohazzard56
2004-08-13, 01:37 AM
The NC one looks like its about to shit a brick.
SecondRaven
2004-08-13, 01:56 AM
Before i start ya i know i said i was leaving PSU but i have to comment on this
After you all get done with the hype of saying OMFG big ass things with big ass guns to shoot up shit and what not;
1.You should realise that with this your going to see the 7 day trial guy just spending points in mechs and rip all the vets a new ass.
1b. Yes the vets will aslo have these mechs, everyone will! we will never see any other vech. Well we will see aircraft on the TR and NC side.
2. Can anyone think of a word that is going to be heard after these thing are realsed? A word that is commonly used when people get pissed? A word that someone would use when they think that they are the underdog? Well kidies that word is NERF and it will be all over the fourms.
Oh and if they think that this will intise us to go down to the Core then well maybe it will but that means that everyone that doesnt have CC has to get it. This is the only high point i can see in the whole thing. Due to the CC is sorta fun to fight on.
Planetside better change its name to Mechwarrior Online due to thats all your going to see.
Feel free to comment on this, i know that I'm going to get mixed reviews on what i said but thats to be expected
Meursault00
2004-08-13, 03:58 AM
Actually, it was mentioned earlier that an attuning process will be required before being able to use the BFRs. It was also mentioned that having Core Combat was needed to use the BFRs. I don't feel the attuning process will be quick and easy, rather it will be a difficult journey for players.
One of the checks used to make sure (that has been revealed by the developers) that the BFRs are not super weapons is that they will be susceptible to small arms fire from infantry. Thus a well coordinated assault by a squad of infantry can take these things out.
I don't know what they're going to do about BFRs stepping on people. But like I commented earlier, it'd be funny to see a BFR fall over after stepping on an infantry unit.
The developers have not released enough information regarding the ways they will balance the BFRs for anyone to pass judgement and begin calling Planetside, MechWarrior.
Give it a chance people. It deserves at least that much.
Edit: Back on topic though, I like how the BFRs look. Uncanny resemblance to MechWarrior though, I have to admit that. The TR BFR does look somewhat like a Cauldron Born mech, the NC BFR reminds me of the Bushwacker, the VS BFR looks nice, but I don't quite like how the head is suspended.
Ait'al
2004-08-13, 07:43 AM
I like the VS one. IM just glad they didnt start out with 200 feet tall combining robots like power rangers. *PPHHEEWW!!!* Wahts this attuning proccess. Did htey mean soemthing in game or out of game? And cool, you need Core combat! :P~
I have to say this! GOTTA CATCH EM ALL! :D :evil:
ThEOnLyOnE
2004-08-13, 08:19 AM
looking good.. except for the NC one..
VS looks outstanding.. very nicely done..
TR looks like something straight out of mech warriors.. still looks hot as hell
NC does look like its taking a shit.. please please redo this BFR!!
the devs can make a better looking one for NC..
Warborn
2004-08-13, 08:20 AM
Before i start ya i know i said i was leaving PSU but i have to comment on this
After you all get done with the hype of saying OMFG big ass things with big ass guns to shoot up shit and what not;
1.You should realise that with this your going to see the 7 day trial guy just spending points in mechs and rip all the vets a new ass.
1b. Yes the vets will aslo have these mechs, everyone will! we will never see any other vech. Well we will see aircraft on the TR and NC side.
2. Can anyone think of a word that is going to be heard after these thing are realsed? A word that is commonly used when people get pissed? A word that someone would use when they think that they are the underdog? Well kidies that word is NERF and it will be all over the fourms.
Oh and if they think that this will intise us to go down to the Core then well maybe it will but that means that everyone that doesnt have CC has to get it. This is the only high point i can see in the whole thing. Due to the CC is sorta fun to fight on.
Planetside better change its name to Mechwarrior Online due to thats all your going to see.
Feel free to comment on this, i know that I'm going to get mixed reviews on what i said but thats to be expected
I have a difficult time imagining something which is 20 meters tall, has a timer longer than 5 minutes, and is already got a reputation for being dangerous doing a hell of a lot. They will be easy to hit (though the VS one is pretty narrow, the TR and NC ones are big and bulky targets), easy to bomb, easy enough for even Reaver pilot to blast away at, and of course they're supposedly vulnerable to infantry weapons. Once one of these gets into a fight, they will be taking some massive damage. If they do end up being overpowered, that's fine, we'll all have our own to cancel the enemy's out until they are made more reasonable.
Oh, and specifically re: the "tear the vets apart" bit, anyone can do that already by just certing Reaver.
Ait'al
2004-08-13, 08:31 AM
I have a feeling they will have nice damage but low atack rate when it comes to attacking in a swarm. So you will prabably be attacking large targets with them mostly. And they are vulnerable to infantry attacks... So you will need, like in many mech situations, a surrounding armor to support them tactically for them to survive long enough to be worth using(except in this case you dont support with fuel you support with protection from infantry etc). So people probably shouldnt scream nerf untill theyve figured out the tactics they put around using it safely. I think another part of thse mechs is to centralize combat tactics in the field also. Through the things i just stated.
ON top of that, If they are strong against small gruops all of the time, it may wipe out to an extent very small attacks or movement in the feild(VS especially which is sorta a good tactic for them and i think the point of ours flying) and force feild battles back into larger more strategically focused arena.
Lartnev
2004-08-13, 08:37 AM
I don't really like the VS one, too anime for my tastes.
The TR and NC both look cool, the NC one looks similar to the raptor from G-Police: Weapons of Justice :)
Red October
2004-08-13, 10:21 AM
Sweet looking :drools:
But you know what this means? Lotsa of AV certing! Striker Bait!
....then again...do you know how hard its going to be to miss with a deci? heh...balance already achieved.
MrPaul
2004-08-13, 11:05 AM
http://img14.exs.cx/img14/2563/hmm4.gif
Saw this on the OF. Notice the similarity?
TR finally get the best looking vehicle!
Meursault00
2004-08-13, 11:12 AM
The attuning process was discussed in an interview with SmokeJumper by HomeLan. I can't seem to find the article, but it said that an attuning process (whatever that might mean) would be required with the AI core of the BFR. Or something to the similar extent. This attuning process must be completed in the caverns. After the attuning process, getting a BFR is as easy as getting any other vehicle. Of course, the timer is much longer. Longer than 5 minutes, that is for sure.
BattleFrames (official name for these big f'ing robots) are heavy tanks, and such are designed to take on other vehicles solely.
I love how the shield generators fit into the overall design of the individual mechs. I can't seem to find the shield generator on the TR BFR though....maybe I'm not looking hard enough or something.
I hope the VS BFR wil be able to use those wings (Voltron!)
Rbstr
2004-08-13, 11:34 AM
I personaly liek the NC mech it's sym,etrical for the mostpar, and has that cool Bushwacker look. the BW was my fav mech evar, no JJ's but at 50ish tons it carried alot of armor, and a big punch, including the Bigest gub in thte game the UAC20 mwhahaha!
The MW4 version of teh bushy
http://www.portugal-global.com.pt/Games/MECHWARRIOR4/mech_BUSHWACKER_2.gif
i am currently not playing PS anymore
the main reason was nothing new is added and it just got to boring and same ol for me so i quited
but i know i will have go at it when these things are live
whatever year that will be something like 2006 my guess
anyway i assume these things will have a serious limit on empire
or are they going to allow a 20 BFR squad to storm a base
which brings up the question how big are they i assume you will stick out a bit above the base walls !!
Thunder_Hawk
2004-08-13, 01:20 PM
Do these thtings have names yet?
anywho, NC does look like the child of a Bushwacker and a Champion from MW3. what the hell are those wings for?!? the VS is more like Anime than the TR was Supposed to be. TR looks the best, accually looks like a Walking tank, not a human robot, or whatever the hell the nc is.
Warborn
2004-08-13, 03:14 PM
what the hell are those wings for?!?
The one-man version can fly. You may also notice what looks like little wings on the cockpit of the NC mech.
EarlyDawn
2004-08-13, 03:35 PM
I highly doubt those wings have anything to do with actual aerodynamics of the BFRs when in flight. They probably use the tried-and-true jumpjet by force system in Battletech.
Ait'al
2004-08-13, 03:40 PM
*cough*bullshit*cough* 8)
Rbstr
2004-08-13, 03:44 PM
?
Ait'al
2004-08-13, 03:46 PM
The wings done fly... *cough*bullshit*cough*
They should! :)
JakeLogan
2004-08-13, 03:53 PM
they are probably gonna stick to the PS flight system. you know VTOL and all that. So the wings are useless. maybe thats where the heavy weapons are mounted?
Warborn
2004-08-13, 03:55 PM
I highly doubt those wings have anything to do with actual aerodynamics of the BFRs when in flight. They probably use the tried-and-true jumpjet by force system in Battletech.
Yeah, reading the scan from the CGW magazine, and it seems you're right. The magazine said "yank out the gunner seat and you've got a nimble fighter", which is what I remembered. The part after it though -- "with jump jets" -- is what I didn't remember. So yeah, apparently the one-man version will have jump jets, and the two man version won't, but it'll have heavier firepower.
Also, obviously it has nothing to do with aerodynamics. Nothing in PS is even close to aerodynamic.
Rbstr
2004-08-13, 04:00 PM
the skeeter is sorta streamlined
JetRaiden
2004-08-13, 04:44 PM
I had a dream that had BFRs in them last night....it was pretty cool...
Liquidtide
2004-08-13, 04:51 PM
These BFR's might actually be a reason to start up PS again.
kcirreda
2004-08-13, 04:57 PM
I dont know about U guys that quit PS, its still as great as it was da 2nd month after release 2 me.
Anyway, I allways trusted the devs 2 come thro (besides overdue balance of empires)
on new content. And guys, its nice 2 discuss the BFRs but dont be saying bad things bout them untill they get in public test.
BTW, NC got nerfed with theyre BFR model!! :p you lil sh1ters! LOL JK
Otaku Jones
2004-08-14, 12:25 PM
I remember the days when it was said 'NO GIANT MECHA' in planetside .. ahh how people will roll over and change when they need players ;)
Doppler
2004-08-14, 12:30 PM
Yep, you're right. It'll probably just be a generic "durrr guns shoot ground targets gud!" aircraft like the Reaver, but the developers have been making some good decisions lately, and I would like to try and remain optimistic that perhaps aircraft will some day be the most effective way to deter other aircraft.
I prefer to remain optimistic that someday well get reliable ground based anti-air a deployable version of the skyguard that unfolds into a SAM site with long range intercept plot radar.
Meursault00
2004-08-14, 12:34 PM
All the Reaver and Mossie pilots would cry NERF
I like the idea though, it'd be cool to see in effect.
It's a good start for content. It'll be interesting to see how they make or break the gameplay. :)
the main question for me is how big will they be ?
bigger then a base gate or smaller
juggalokilla
2004-08-14, 11:14 PM
It says 20 feet and the pics show them to be a litte around 2-2.5 times the height of a max. At least the TR one is. VS is taller, it shows one with a soldier next to it and he only goes up to its (knee?) I cant really see these walking around the courtyard easily, probably have to use jumpjets to get around the low catwalks. Even sunderer can hit the low parts of these bridges.
Maybe these parts of bases are being redesigned, or a whole new base to accomodate getting one, like dropship center was made for the galaxy and lodestar.Anyone have an idea on possible release date?:confused:
dm_cowsfromhell
2004-08-15, 02:29 AM
If im still subscribed when they go live im definitely coming back.
Lartnev
2004-08-15, 08:21 AM
and he only goes up to its (knee?)
Try ankle :p
juggalokilla
2004-08-15, 08:37 AM
im scared now. i hope they balance them well internally and surprise us with them
Onizuka-GTO
2004-08-15, 09:32 AM
YES!!! Mecha!!!
:love: Go go Macross!�
I absolutely love the VS mecha!! Thank you! thank you Dev's!
(I will have your babies if they are as good as it looks ;) :p )
unlike Lartnev, i have a completely opposite opinion, i think the NC and TR mecha are too "battletechy" ugly brutes. urgh.
Though the TR is alittle bit better with the missile pods, NC is horrible.
VS mecha is the best :p I want one!
Now if only it can transform into a Fighter..... :lol:
MrPaul
2004-08-15, 09:58 AM
YES!!! Mecha!!!
Now if only it can transform into a Fighter..... :lol:
Oh but it does...
Lartnev
2004-08-15, 10:44 AM
The NC one is too box like on second thoughts, but the TR one looks awesome (hey, I like battletech) :D
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