I need Ramz0rz

[SDM]

Ok, What memory should I get for the AMD 64 system I'm putting together?

I need DDR400. Keep in mind that I'm not into overclocking and bs like that. I don't want pretty lights and crap. I just want a Gig (2x512) of low cas latency, speedy ram that will work when I plug them in. 3... 2... 1... GO.

[Disconnecting]

Sure thing whats your mobo is your CPU athlon? How many pins?

[SDM]

AMD 64 system
184pin pc3200 unregistered non-ecc DDR DIMMs.

[Disconnecting]

http://secure.newegg.com/app/shoppingcart.asp?DEPA=0&submit=ADD&item=20-141-424

512mb with a life time warranty for 78$ apeice. And yes it is 184pin pc3200

Sorry about that AMD question theres more then one kind of amd out there. Just because im a hardcore mac fanboy doesnt mean I know a thing or two about computers or else I couldnt run doom3 on highest settings on my *other computer*

[Daleon]

Bah, yea if you want some cheap ram that stuff will do. No way I would ever call cas3 low latency. 2.5 atleast, if not 2.

2 512 sticks of corsair xms xlpt for 2-2-2-5 (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=140546&Category_Code=Unbuffered_Corsair)

If the price doesn't worry you to much.

[Rbstr]

SDM just so you know, different AMD64's (the 940pin FX's use Registered) use different memory thats why he asked. yea that xl latency stuff is the bes ton the marcket right now for regular DDR400

[SDM]

Thanks guys, I found some cosair sticks at cas2 for midway between the shitty cas3 ($150/pair) and the uber-blingy ($350/pair). I think they were corsair, anyways, I'm set.

This is getting fuckin' expensive. :eek:

[SDM]

Here it is.
My big ass order.
(I'm hooking up the gf too, she'll get my ATi 9700xt)

For Me:

Thermaltake VA3000 Dream Tower Black Tsunami VA3000BWA ATX Case with Transparent X type side panel window -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-133-132&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$125.00 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-133-132&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

ENERMAX Noisetaker Series 470W Power Supply, ATX 12V V1.3 compatible: Support latest P4 and Athlon 64 platforms (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-446&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$78.99 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-446&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

Thermaltake SILENT BOOST For AMD Opteron and Athlon 64 (All Copper) (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-036&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$29.99 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-036&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

SOLTEK "SL-K8AV2-RL" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-180-056&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$85.00 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-180-056&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-425&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$167.25

ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-361&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE) $266.00
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For Her

JustPC Gazelle Black/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With 450W PSU, Model "JPC899BK" -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-200-017&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$59.00 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-200-017&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

SOLTEK "SL-KT880E-RL" VIA KT880 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-180-058&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$72.00 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-180-058&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

AMD Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton", 400 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-394&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$149.00

Thermaltake "Volcano 10+" Copper CPU Cooler for AMD AthlonXP up to 3400+, Opti-fin technology -RETAIL (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-030&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$28.99 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-030&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE

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For Us:

Arctic Silver Premium Silver Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound, Model "Arctic Silver 5", 3.5-gram( 1 cc. ) tube (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=35-100-007&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$7.59

2x Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-440&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE)
$312.00 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-440&depa=0&manufactory=BROWSE



Total $ 1,380.81:mad:



The memory I ended up with says 2.5cas, but everyone says it shows up 2 on thier system. I know I kinda went cheap on the ramz0rz, but this is making me poor.

Look it over, and let me know if you think I'm doing anything stupid. Before I make the 'click' of no return.:D

edit: made links

[EineBeBoP]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-457&depa=0

I suggest that for your Mobo. Bit more expensive, but you DONT wanna go cheap on the Mobo.
Corr has it, so any questions you can ask him.

[Corrosion]

As the title of the product says, Go For The Gold!

Definatly the best A64 754 mobo out there IMO.

[SDM]

I looked at that one, but I heard the nForce3 chipsets were a little glitchy with the agp. Ofcourse, that was when they first came out, and I'm sure it's been corrected.

I've just always seen good performance with via.

What exactly makes that board $40 better? Explain it to me like you're selling it to me. Use communist MSI propaganda. ;)

[Corrosion]

I looked at that one, but I heard the nForce3 chipsets were a little glitchy with the agp. Ofcourse, that was when they first came out, and I'm sure it's been corrected.

I've just always seen good performance with via.

What exactly makes that board $40 better? Explain it to me like you're selling it to me. Use communist MSI propaganda. ;)
I would actually go for this one: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-498&depa=1

You can of course trust ASUS with motherboards, and I'll let Rob explain why nforce 3 roxx.

[SDM]

That Asus board looks nice, but I really didn't want to spend that much. I'll miss my trusty P4B :(

Damnit, someone needs to tell me whats so freakin' special about the nForce3 chipset.

[MattxMosh]

That Asus board looks nice, but I really didn't want to spend that much. I'll miss my trusty P4B :(

Damnit, someone needs to tell me whats so freakin' special about the nForce3 chipset.

Nothing honestly, that MSI Platinum board is junk, I RMA'd the one I had after two days. And stuck with my older MSI FISR board.

This board here is pretty decent, and won't cost you a fortune.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-043&depa=0

This Epox board I hear is good, and killed with features, but doesnt overclock well, but I personally have no experience with it.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-123-218&depa=0

Everything else is fairly good, i dont like the case you've chosen, but that just not my pick. When it comes to teh memory, dont let anyone fool you, the difference between 2.5 and 2 isnt noticeable. Actually, unless you are doing soem serious overclocking, and lots of bench tests, you more than ikely wont see shit of a performance difference when you change memory timing.

EDIT: Ditch the heatsink, will link one later, time for work.

[Daleon]

Ok, first forget the KT800 chipset. Nizzooww. Man what a POS. Its clock lock does NOT work. Meaning you cannot lock the pci/agp speeds. Meaning no tweaking pretty much at all. Also, hose on soltek. They are trying to come up out of the dumpster, but they still got a long way to go before they earn a good rep.

That Asus nf3 is defintely very very nice. Also very exp. If you have any interrest in gigabit lan, its defintely the way to go. If your wanting affordable, and GREAT value get the Chaintech NF3 250. Its well reviewed and respected for its price.

Now if you really want via, the KT800 Pro's aren't to bad. Atleast their clock locks work. Also mb performance is close to even with most of the nf3's. The MB does have an affect on how overall fast your system is. Also the quality of the chipset and manufacturer will have a direct affect on how long it lasts and how many problems you have down the line.

[Rbstr]

nah thse HS's are fine, there quiet and will more than get the job done. And inexpensive

[SDM]

1) After much reading on multiple sites including Tom's Hardware, the VIA, nForce, and SiS benchmark so freaking close, it really doesn't matter which one you get. The only difference is features. I'm not going to overclock anyway, and I really don't need the nF3's firewall.

2) EVERY review I've read (about 6 I think) Gives the Soltek board outstanding marks, with only minor complaints with petty shit. e.g. "I didn't like where they put that capacitor" and "I don't like AGP card locks".

I'm not going to pay over $100 for a motherboard with features I won't use, but thanks for your opinions, they got me reading.

[Rbstr]

we aim to enlighten. probably a good decision, if your not goin ot uses the feasures then why get them, though sometimes that cappasitor placment thing is a big issue, it can mean the different betwee some components fitting in a mobo, liek certian coolers and video cards

[SDM]

we aim to enlighten. probably a good decision, if your not goin ot uses the feasures then why get them, though sometimes that cappasitor placment thing is a big issue, it can mean the different betwee some components fitting in a mobo, liek certian coolers and video cardsThe fan I'm getting will fit, they just suggest putting it on before mounting the board to the case.
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/7872/13-180-056-02.jpg


I think I'm going with a FX6800 instead of the Ati9800pro. It's about $20 more, but looks like a much better card in the benchmarks I've seen. It's hard to get a clear picture by just asking people. ATi users HATE nVidia, and vice versa. Computer geeks are so wierd. Looking at the numbers cuts through the BS. :D

Here's one of the tests - http://hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=544

[MattxMosh]

The fan I'm getting will fit, they just suggest putting it on before mounting the board to the case.

You should always do that.

ATi users HATE [color=white]nVidia, and vice versa.


I prefer ATI, but you cant go wrong with either with this new generation of cards.

[Rbstr]

yeah, the X800 and 6800 are so uber i'm having second thoughts of getting the X800pro

[NoSurrender]

the 6800 is supposed to be faster than the pro

[SDM]

yeah, the X800 and 6800 are so uber i'm having second thoughts of getting the X800prohttp://img44.exs.cx/img44/2680/summary.png

The X800pro is better, but it's not $100 better in my opinion. The 6800 is under $300 is definately the best bang for the buck.

[MattxMosh]

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/2680/summary.png

The X800pro is better, but it's not $100 better in my opinion. The 6800 is under $300 is definately the best bang for the buck.


If you are into softmodding and hard modding, its worth it. Otherwise, save yourself the cash and pick up the cheaper of the two. Unless of course, your e-penis needs a bling enlargment.

[Rbstr]

I think i'm goin Pro still, My e=peinis is looking rather shrivled with this 5600

[Daleon]

If your comparing the 9800XT vs the 6800, then yes the 6800 is defintely much better value. Now if you compare the 9800 Pro vs the 6800, the price difference is about double so the value for performance is much closer.

If you can afford the 6800, get the 6800, especially over an 9800 XT.

I think I'm going with a FX6800 instead of the Ati9800pro. It's about $20 more

Not correct though. Also those bench's show the 9800XT is actually really close to the 6800, and ahead many times in high resolution/high aa/af. So it could still be a toss up. But when you consider that typically performance between the 9800XT and the 9800 Pro/128 is usually within 3-10 fps, which is not on that bench, you see why many ppl still say the 9800Pro is the best bang for the buck.

Personally when I see performance on a 6800 Ultra Extreme SLI is when I will decide between Ati vs NV this round. Ofcourse I'll juggle the 2 to 1 price vs performance and judge appropriately to see if its worth it.

[Rbstr]

Yeah the SLI is going to double performance, but also double to pirce, a K for video alone, not many peopl have that much cash even the most die-hard gamers, i mean a system to support an SLI card even without vidcard, is going to cost alot, 300+ for CPU(500+ if you don't wnat to bottle-neck), 200ish for a mobo(with dual PCI-Ex 16x slots) and Lots,400 mabee 500 for DDR2(only mobo's with Dual 16x use DDR2 and to not bottle neck you need the 667or greater stuff),

[Daleon]

What we need is Quantum3D to make a comeback and build a 6800 Ultra EX Obsidian PCI-Express X-512 single card solution.... ahhhhh