Phantasm Concept!

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/index.php?newsid=984

[hex222]

looks like a real grunt mower, is it a land vehicle though???

[DeltaForceAlpha]

Hmm, probably going to be a while till a 3d concept art but atleast we finally got some info :)

[hex222]

when will we get new weapons though??? all these vehicles but no new weapons...

[Rbstr]

no it's an air-dell Hex: non-tech(hopefully), airborn transport that cloacks, with dell level holding capasity.

[Indecisive]

Im pretty sure I should get some credit. I *am* the one who asked after all :p

haha :lol:

[Rbstr]

liek i asked for Gauss cannons, and found sporks suprise, we've had impack on PS we shoudl start a club:

People the Dev's listened to club

[Indecisive]

Me: Hayoo, you should ask for a pic of the phantasm
Hayoo: naw, man, they would never do that
*/me walks up and asks t-ray*
T-Ray: Sure, grab me a pen

Then I ran around and showed everyone :x

[Queensidecastle]

a cloaked air vehicle? Oh hell yes!

[Lartnev]

You better believe it :D

[Madcow]

liek i asked for Gauss cannons, and found sporks suprise, we've had impack on PS we shoudl start a club:

People the Dev's listened to club

I'll be in the people the Dev's blatantly ignore club. It's far less exclusive.

[Hamma]

I hooked you and Hayoo up Gohan

[Queensidecastle]

I dunno, I remember myself and others going on and on and on a few months back about how the Decimator was ridiculously overpowered against MAXs. My proposal was that various damage types affect MAXs differently. Its nice to know someone was listening. Another one that I found interesting when I came back is how the Prowler now has a 15 mm on top. I just cant even count the number of times I suggested that as a fix many months ago. Clearly the devs read this forum

[Madcow]

I dunno, I remember myself and others going on and on and on a few months back about how the Decimator was ridiculously overpowered against MAXs. My proposal was that various damage types affect MAXs differently. Its nice to know someone was listening. Another one that I found interesting when I came back is how the Prowler now has a 15 mm on top. I just cant even count the number of times I suggested that as a fix many months ago. Clearly the devs read this forum

That's certainly a possibility, but it's also possible that the solution you came to happened to be the most logical solution which they came to on their own anyhow. Things like the mine/deci damage were just so obvious, the only weird thing was how long it took them to change them.

[Indecisive]

I hooked you and Hayoo up Gohan


woot woot!

[Cauldron Borne]

I read that yer holding next year's at San Diego? COOL! I LIVE in San Diego...mebbe we can go down to the SOE office (my mom works a block away) and bug 'em?

Just don't go near vista....FEAR VISTA! FEAR THEIR HORRIBLE SCHOOL DISTRICT! FEAR!

Knott's Berry Farm...that would be ok, or mebbe 6 flags...or one of our, like fourty waterparks...or a casino...we have about ten Indian owned Casinos....or the Bay...San DIego Bay is awesome....

...screw planetside tonight...i'm goin' on a road trip, i just realised i haven't gone to Sea World or Belmont Park...(home of Southern Cali's oldest wooden Rollercoaster) in about a year....

[ArcticRecon]

The Phantasm looks alot like an AT vehicle. Maybe it is because there are no AT flyers. I could be wron though.

[Indecisive]

its not AT.

its common pool, that was one of the specific things we went over.

[Zaxis]

The concept reminds me of a vehicle in UT2K4. I believe it was called the Manta? The best part about it was the ability to lower your engines to mow through the enemy.

[ArcticRecon]

Oh, well aren't a know it all Gohan! Nah just kidding ;) . It was mainly because of the circles on the ends of the wings that made it look AT.

[MadMerco]

liek i asked for Gauss cannons, and found sporks suprise, we've had impack on PS we shoudl start a club:

People the Dev's listened to club

I would be in that club, back in core combat beta you couldn't drop a mod originally you either made it or you exploded. so I made a post asking to make it them the llu (shift+g to drop), smoke replied and sure enough it was in the next version. so everyone who has ever droped a mod seconds before it blew I will take your thanks now.

I know it isn't much but hey this is my contribution to the game and I want people to know.

[Electrofreak]

Ok ok just a little info a dev told me about the Phantasm, dunno if anyone else has already spread the word so dont O F N me if you've already heard.

It's wings are folded backwards when it emerges from the v-pad. They swing forward after it lifts off. The circles in the wings are its lift engines, which I'm guessing are directable. It carries 5 people (not sure if that includes pilot but I dont think it does) who board via a ramp somehow (I'm guessing its in the back). It's only weaponry is a fairly weak belly turret used for clearing its drop area of light resistance (yes, LIGHT resistance, this thing isnt an air tank). It decloaks when it's weapon fires, and also becomes visible at higher speeds. It doesn't have a ton of armor either (but it's a stealth aircraft).

NOW. DIS-FRICKING-CLAIMER. REALIZE THAT IT IS STILL IN PRODUCTION. WHAT IS LISTED ABOVE IS ONLY WHAT THE DEVS HAVE PLANNED FOR IT CURRENTLY IN THEIR DESIGN DOC. That stuff is very likely to change after the Devs get done with BFRs and can really get rolling on it. I'm gonna be pissed if I see any buff/nerf/whine threads about any of the above because its not frigging out yet, or even being worked on, so spare your breath, the devs were kind enough to let us in on some of this, lets return the favor.

[Rbstr]

i think it will be fine as stated above, i hope it's 5 + driver.

[Lonehunter]

we have about ten Indian owned Casinos
I'm there :cool2:

[Sploogey]

The concept reminds me of a vehicle in UT2K4. I believe it was called the Manta? The best part about it was the ability to lower your engines to mow through the enemy.

yah it does
also like the scorpion jeep with the blades that come out the sides

[Lartnev]

PANCAKE!

[Lonehunter]

The concept reminds me of a vehicle in UT2K4. I believe it was called the Manta? The best part about it was the ability to lower your engines to mow through the enemy.
That's my favorite vehicle

[Atlas24]

Can u say shadow platoon drop on a base?

Oh and i dunno if ppl have said this alrdy, but i think they should have a certain type of armour that u can wear in it. Imagine like 30 rexos dropping on an amp station all of a sudden. BAM!

[kcirreda]

sounds exelent from wat electrofreak said. but how light is the armor? Iam hoping its atleast as much as a ATV but less than a Lightning. Around a harasser probobly. uhhh, people that devs listen 2 club, get 2 it! :lol:

[Rbstr]

Can u say shadow platoon drop on a base?

Oh and i dunno if ppl have said this alrdy, but i think they should have a certain type of armour that u can wear in it. Imagine like 30 rexos dropping on an amp station all of a sudden. BAM!

but the thing is tehy would all be seen droping from the craft anyway even if it was cloacked, it's not like 5 gals of people can't drop on a base in the game as it is, they have enought health to fly over head. and most people don't nitice untill they are landing anyway.

I mean if it can't carry rexo why even bother? your better off taking a bunch of reavers or skeeters

[Atlas24]

Yes, but with 5 gals, they can be reported, and prepared for.. U can c them comin, maybe hit em with a skyguard.

[Electrofreak]

sounds exelent from wat electrofreak said. but how light is the armor? Iam hoping its atleast as much as a ATV but less than a Lightning. Around a harasser probobly. uhhh, people that devs listen 2 club, get 2 it! :lol:
I'm guessing its going to have armor somewhere between a mossie and a reaver. Just a guess tho, I remember the dev saying it has relatively light armor for its size because of its cloaking ability.

[BUGGER]

It can and will cloak without a infultration suite yea?


It looks like our stealth bombers actually, i kinda like it.


has this gotten out to maybe the offical forums?

[JetRaiden]

It can and will cloak without a infultration suite yea?


It looks like our stealth bombers actually, i kinda like it.


has this gotten out to maybe the offical forums?

nope. driver has to have an infiltration suit on. its a light transport air vehicle. like a flying, cloaking deliverer.

[Meursault00]

Hmm, interesting design.

Can't wait to see friendly troops dropping out of the middle air and everyone yelling "WTH IS THAT?!!?!?!!!111!"

Can't wait.

[Atlas24]

nope. driver has to have an infiltration suit on. its a light transport air vehicle. like a flying, cloaking deliverer.

Shadow 4 life!! looks like i will be dropping my mossie for a phantasm :\

[Lonehunter]

The Phantasm should be grouped with Air Cav

[Electrofreak]

nope. driver has to have an infiltration suit on. its a light transport air vehicle. like a flying, cloaking deliverer.
Damn. I thought I'd dragged everything out of Fisa too. :p

[martyr]

nope. driver has to have an infiltration suit on. its a light transport air vehicle. like a flying, cloaking deliverer.

latest i've heard was that they changed their minds about this part, and that you could cloak it without a suit.

[Queensidecastle]

In a way they kinda have to do it that way. Otherwise, it would be effectivly a 5 cert vehicle and could not be grouped with Air support

[Lartnev]

In a way they kinda have to do it that way. Otherwise, it would be effectivly a 5 cert vehicle and could not be grouped with Air support

Why couldn't it be grouped? I mean the wraith is part of ATV.

[EarlyDawn]

Who gets control over the 12 on the bottom? Pilot?

Can you rotate it around or is it liberator-esq?

[Indecisive]

I believe there is a seperate gunner slot, (whether that is included in the 5 people im not sure) and it is a "ball" turrent, so yes, think lib.

[Sputty]

turrent?
I hope you feel the pain of a thousand testes being crushed in a thousand vices

[Indecisive]

That would suck

[Cauldron Borne]

cloaked vec + gun = no no

[Meursault00]

I agree with CB, the last thing we need is another fricking air gun platform raining cloaked death upon everyone below.

We have OSes for that

[MrPaul]

I agree with CB, the last thing we need is another fricking air gun platform raining cloaked death upon everyone below.

Did you even read what electro said?
In case you didnt, here it is again:
It's only weaponry is a fairly weak belly turret used for clearing its drop area of light resistance (yes, LIGHT resistance, this thing isnt an air tank).

[Rbstr]

t's probably something along the lines of 12mil rotary MG, nad it will probalby becoem very visibly while in use

[BUGGER]

You'll see the bullets anyways, have common sense. Its a Wraith with a gun and wings, honestly are you scared of a Wraith with a 15mm gun?

Like a Vangaurd against a ATV, flak cannons will own.

[Electrofreak]

Yes, Fisa, the Dev who DESIGNED it, stressed the fact that the belly turret will not be a powerful weapon. Also, she said that it decloaks when it fires the weapon. Believe me, the turret is only there to give the troops some cover fire after they've landed, not destroy everything.

Before any of you start whining, please read my description THOROUGHLY. All the stuff I just said above was previously stated in my original description of the Phantasm.

[Everay]

you know, i was the one that suggested the Vehical Queue, but then the devs added the auto drive, the bastards. ya hate em, and ya love em, cant do one or the other.

[Cauldron Borne]

I am scared of wraiths...period. Especially knowing what I can do with them....

Ever go tearing through the back lanes of a Battle field in a wraith? guaranteed to wrack up some mower kills....i am scared....

Still if it decloaks while firing, then no biggy. And it don't matter about the tracer round leading you to the plane. i can see tracer rounds of planes that DON'T cloak and sometimes not see the plane...

[MrPaul]

Ever go tearing through the back lanes of a Battle field in a wraith? guaranteed to wrack up some mower kills....i am scared....
How the hell do you mow with an ATV? It's nigh impossible, they're too light - I went at 89Kph into a frienly as a test. Half his armour went. :/ Fine he was Rexo, but thats what? Just the armour of an Agile.. so maybe a standard might die, but if they're running round in standard ANYthing could kill em..


Still if it decloaks while firing, then no biggy. And it don't matter about the tracer round leading you to the plane. i can see tracer rounds of planes that DON'T cloak and sometimes not see the plane...
If it's a dropship then by the time they're gonna decloak it's gonna be above you. Pretty sure you'd see it. Not many people are gonna be sniping with this mofo.

Although.... Get a pilot to land one of thewse things, jump on the roof ( � la Gal surfing) and make them take you waay above the action, whilst cloaked. No-one would look up to see you and imagine the kills youd get. *creams*

[Cauldron Borne]

drive through the back field of a big battle. people are repairing out ther, they are also un awares of your plans, so you can make 2-3 sweeps b4 death, and i got eight kills once =p (works wit ha harrasser, too[a buddy gunner softens em up sum, for a true mag-mower like experience])